Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH
2017-08-09 4:04 GMT+08:00 Michael Lange <klappn...@freenet.de>: > Hi, > > On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 03:11:48 +0800 > spp mg <sm.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> In the ~/.profile has below default setting: >> >> -- >> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists >> if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then >> PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" >> fi >> -- >> >> Why put ~/bin beginning ? Is that dangerous ? > > like other people already pointed out there shouldn't be anything > dangerous about this. > One possible use case is for example that you could put there a > minimal script that temporarily overrides some environment variable, like > one I have here which reads: > > #!/bin/bash > GTK_IM_MODULE=gtk /usr/bin/poedit $@ > exit $? > > This way I can conveniently call "poedit " with the desired > setting of GTK_IM_MODULE without either having to type the whole thing > each time or else having to permanently change GTK_IM_MODULE's setting > (the default value of which I modified for other reasons). > > Best regards > > Michael > > .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. > > Fascinating, a totally parochial attitude. > -- Spock, "Metamorphosis", stardate 3219.8 > Thinks to reply (very fast :D) I think it's may dangerous because generally system command should be highter older then user's command. For example , some guy put a "rm" but named "ls" to ~/bin . This "ls" can be virus or ransomware , user may not know it's not which he want("ls"). So I think put ~/bin to tail of $PATH has better security for normal user. For me, I will avoid use same name with exist command, and for user who want use same name , I believe he know or will learn how to modify $PATH. I mean , put ~/bin in tail of $PATH will batter for default setting, so does developer has another reason to put to beginning ?
Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH
Hi all In the ~/.profile has below default setting: -- # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" fi -- Why put ~/bin beginning ? Is that dangerous ? Thanks .
Re: Architecture independent package
ok, I can run hime now. but big problem. This is what I did . 1. apt-get download 2. dpkg -i 3. dpkg --configure --force-all apt-get download hime:i386 hime-data dpkg -i hime_0.9.10-5_i386.deb --ignore-depends=hime-data --ignore-depends option look like no effect. apt-get -f install - installed some depends dpkg -i hime-data_0.9.10-5_all.deb aptitude -f install hime-qt4-immodule:i386 hime-chewing:i386 --- can't install , but i know which package in depend. apt-get download hime-chewing:i386 hime-qt4-immodule:i386 libchewing3:i386 libchewing3-data dpkg -i hime-chewing_0.9.10-5_i386.deb hime-qt4-immodule_0.9.10-5_i386.deb libchewing3_0.4.0-2_i386.deb libchewing3-data_0.4.0-2_all.deb dpkg --configure --force-all hime hime-chewing hime-qt4-immodule -- now I can use hime in skype also. but apt have porblem : It want remove hime:i386 all time because no hime-data:i386. So I can't install another package . And I guess system has another problem, Because when I login with hime:amd64 , I don't need set ~/.xinitrc ( I use Enlightenment ). But now I must set it, hime can't automatic set it. ( Maybe in /etc/alternatives/xinput-zh_TW ) 2015-04-10 0:57 GMT+08:00 spp mg sm.sp...@gmail.com: Thanks your reply. I know architecture-independent means this package contains only files which are readable on any arch. But apt disallow install. $ apt-cache depends hime:i386 hime:i386 Depends: libc6:i386 Depends: libcairo2:i386 Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 Depends: libglib2.0-0:i386 Depends: libgtk2.0-0:i386 Depends: libpango-1.0-0:i386 Depends: libpangocairo-1.0-0:i386 Depends: libx11-6:i386 Depends: libxtst6:i386 Depends: hime-data:i386 -- unavailable Depends: hime-tables:i386 Suggests: hime-anthy:i386 Suggests: hime-chewing:i386 Suggests: hime-qt4-immodule:i386 |Recommends: im-config:i386 -- unavailable Recommends: im-switch:i386 -- unavailable Recommends: hime-gtk3-immodule:i386 Conflicts: hime The pkg is show unavailable in aptitude. And when I use # aptitude install hime:i386 It will display : Depends: hime-data:i386 which is a virtual package. I tried follow this page : http://serverfault.com/questions/250224/how-do-i-get-apt-get-to-ignore-some-dependencies But the problem is depend on hime-data:i386 , not depend on hime-data. So I don't know how to ignore it.. I think it's a apt bug . what do you think ? And , any ideal for solve ? Thanks. 2015-04-09 20:34 GMT+08:00 Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk: On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 07:57:43PM +0800, sppmg wrote: Hi all I want type Chinese in skype in Debian (testing) amd64, so I need this package : hime (skype need hime-qt4-immodule:i386 , I google to get this .) It's will depend hime-data:i386. But hime-data is architecture independent package, there is no :i386 . How can i solve this ? According to packages.debian.org, hime-qt4-immodule (0.9.10-5) depends on hime (= 0.9.10.5), which depends on hime-data. Note that neither of those dependencies specifies an architecture. This means that any compatible architecture can provide a solution. hime-data is marked as arch:all, which means that it can be installed on all architectures (it is architecture independant). Therefore, hime-data (arch:all) will satisfy the requirement for hime-data to an i386 package as well as an amd64 package and so on. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55266937.7020...@gmail.com
Re: Architecture independent package
Thanks your reply. I know architecture-independent means this package contains only files which are readable on any arch. But apt disallow install. $ apt-cache depends hime:i386 hime:i386 Depends: libc6:i386 Depends: libcairo2:i386 Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 Depends: libglib2.0-0:i386 Depends: libgtk2.0-0:i386 Depends: libpango-1.0-0:i386 Depends: libpangocairo-1.0-0:i386 Depends: libx11-6:i386 Depends: libxtst6:i386 Depends: hime-data:i386 -- unavailable Depends: hime-tables:i386 Suggests: hime-anthy:i386 Suggests: hime-chewing:i386 Suggests: hime-qt4-immodule:i386 |Recommends: im-config:i386 -- unavailable Recommends: im-switch:i386 -- unavailable Recommends: hime-gtk3-immodule:i386 Conflicts: hime The pkg is show unavailable in aptitude. And when I use # aptitude install hime:i386 It will display : Depends: hime-data:i386 which is a virtual package. I tried follow this page : http://serverfault.com/questions/250224/how-do-i-get-apt-get-to-ignore-some-dependencies But the problem is depend on hime-data:i386 , not depend on hime-data. So I don't know how to ignore it.. I think it's a apt bug . what do you think ? And , any ideal for solve ? Thanks. 2015-04-09 20:34 GMT+08:00 Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk: On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 07:57:43PM +0800, sppmg wrote: Hi all I want type Chinese in skype in Debian (testing) amd64, so I need this package : hime (skype need hime-qt4-immodule:i386 , I google to get this .) It's will depend hime-data:i386. But hime-data is architecture independent package, there is no :i386 . How can i solve this ? According to packages.debian.org, hime-qt4-immodule (0.9.10-5) depends on hime (= 0.9.10.5), which depends on hime-data. Note that neither of those dependencies specifies an architecture. This means that any compatible architecture can provide a solution. hime-data is marked as arch:all, which means that it can be installed on all architectures (it is architecture independant). Therefore, hime-data (arch:all) will satisfy the requirement for hime-data to an i386 package as well as an amd64 package and so on. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55266937.7020...@gmail.com
lightdm (1.8.5-2 and -3) didn't run .profile .xinitrc ..... etc
Hi all. I found a problem with lightdm , It will not run ~/.profile ~/.xprofile ~/.xinitrc ~/.xsession. but kdm will run these script in same system . (even if ~/.proflie only) Anyone get same result ? Is it a bug ? I use the newest debian testing , and try to upgrade lightdm to sid,but same problem. Thinks all.
Re: lightdm (1.8.5-2 and -3) didn't run .profile .xinitrc ..... etc
Sorry, I retest my system. I think lighdm did run .xsession . but I don't understand why it can't source profile? I write this in my .xsessionrc if ! [ $SPPMG_PROFILE == y ] ; then export SPPMG_TEST=y source ~/.profile fi expert SPPMG_RUN=xsessionrc the SPPMG_PROFILE set in .profile , so if sourced .profile , $SPPMG_PROFILE == y In kdm , I get SPPMG_PROFILE , SPPMG_RUN and setting in ~/.profile in lightdm , I get SPPMG_TEST , SPPMG_RUN, but didn't source ~/.profile. Look like kdm will run .profile first, and lightdm will not , but I don't understand why I can't get effect in source ~/.profile . Maybe because bash variable scope . So maybe it's not bug, just my mistake. :) Thinks your help. 2014/1/8 Slavko li...@slavino.sk Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 8 Jan 2014 20:22:53 +0800 spp mg sm.sp...@gmail.com napísal: Hi all. I found a problem with lightdm , It will not run ~/.profile ~/.xprofile ~/.xinitrc ~/.xsession. but kdm will run these script in same system . (even if ~/.proflie only) Anyone get same result ? Is it a bug ? Is it somewhere standardized? If yes, then be free to fill bugreport. If not, then different behavior is not a bug. Be me knowledge the: + ~/.xsession is for Xsession customization (man xsession) + ~/.profile is for console logins (i am not sure now if local only or remote too) + ~/.xinitrc is for xinit (man xinit) + purpose of the ~/.xprofile is unknown for me, it is not sourced/executed in my system The LightDM sources the ~/.xsessionrc file (for me). regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk
Re: unfriendly function from aptitude(hold and upgrade)
2011/8/30 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:46:58 +0800, sppmg wrote: I found a unfriendly function from aptitude(0.6.3-4). state: I hold a package,and this package in the upgradable too. now I upgrade by command ,I don't upgrade this package. But,If I upgrade by ncurses (move point to upgradable and press + ) ,I will upgrade this package. Should I send this ideal to maintainer ? Sure, I don't fully get the whole picture of your claiming but you can open a bug report for that. I would tag it as wishlist :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.08.30.12.04...@gmail.com Hi,Camaleón. I discover it's my problem in later days.I should press U to mark upgradable not +. But ,I think it's still unfriendly to new user :) I try to use my bad English to describe . -- At first, I think ncurses mode has a bug,because held package still upgrade (move point to upgradable and press + ) Now,I know the normal way of upgrade is to press U to mark upgradable. And I have an ideal that maybe more easy and safety. The package being held need unhold when upgrade or remove. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAJEa0Zt6C2ZEK3h=k9DgKdshjnG+onE_2zp==ul_tcs9mjp...@mail.gmail.com
Bug in Debian installer
I install Debian(6.0.2.1 amd64) to a old HDD.This HDD has a lvm partition,it's creat by Fedora installer. I can't delete this lvm partition in intaller,it's display about lvm is busy... ,even if I delete all Logical Volume and restart installer. Finally, I delete lvm partition by other PC. It's a bug ,right? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajea0ztajdb3jp12kofhnlcortfee6jy81cvgukyrmp0ode...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Why some gnome 3.0 program can't work?
Hi all. I resolve problem 1. I need install ibus-gtk3,so problem is ibus. 2011/8/26 sppmg sm.sp...@gmail.com: (I use debian amd64 testing.and i-bus framework running.) I upgrade debian (testing to testing) by apt yesterday.Some program come to 3.0.for example ,gnome-terminal,epiphany-browser. But they has some problem. 1. gnome-terminal can't type ,it have no responses when I type.It happen in epiphany-browser. 2. tab can't switch by mouse wheel. Anyone have same problem? Is it bug ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajea0zsq4kbxgmcmzqy5sfoce838audjwwvz3+zslhbwya7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: firmware-realtek (0.29) can't work at amd64
2011/5/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: On Thu, 19 May 2011 11:29:35 +0800, spp mg wrote: 2011/5/17 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com (...) sorry,I am too late to reply. (no problem, but don't make use of html formatted messages and better yet if you reply at bottom or inline and don't cross-post ;-)) Ok, like this? Much better, thanks :-) wicd scan function is ok, but when I connect net,it will connect a long time,and display password error.But I'm sure password is right.(The config can use in kernel 2.6.26.) Make wicd to be more verbose if possible, there must be an option in the program settings you can toggle on. Oh,I used wicd-curses.I will try to use wicd-cli or find logs. Hopefully logs will help you to understand why it cannot be associated to the AP. Also, compare both /var/log/syslog files from the computer where it works and from the one that fails. On the i386,I just use apt install firmware-realtek (0.29). And it works fine? Then it can be a bug within the amd64 port package. Yes,it's works fine. When I go back hometown (less then 1 month), I will use live cd of i386 and amd64 to test again. Because I just use other computer to test i386. If it's bug,how to report? If you followed the steps given at the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#Wheezy And you are still experiencing problems within the amd64 system, you can open a bug report against wireless-tools because the package of firmware itself is architecture-independent. There is a very useful tool (reportbug) you can use to open the report at Debian BTS, just follow the on-screen wizard. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.05.19.11.26...@gmail.com Hi,all. I found where is problem. firmware-realtek is ok. problem is dbus and network-manager This is my test note:(focus step 4 and 5) 1. Use live cd ,and install wicd,firmware-realtek and dependence. It work perfect.(whether for amd or i386) 2. Install new firmware-realtek(0.30) to pc(HDD). It can't work too. 3.Install all package(same as live cd) It work perfect. I am happy (^_^),and full-upgrade my pc. when it done,it can't work again. (T_T cry ) 4.I tried again many times,I discover solution .It's need restart dbus daemon (and wicd daemon) when open PC every time. 5.I discover network-manager daemon started,so I stop network-manager daemon. It work perfect and doesn't need restart dbus every time. I think network-manager daemon will stop when I restart dbus,so step 4 can work. Thanks all,and Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajea0zstand+wttkjjz13yqy8xbgyyobw5bv8s4q90y6p+g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Gnome menu can't update to correct language.
2011/5/22 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: On Sun, 22 May 2011 16:16:29 +0800, spp mg wrote: My locale is set to zh_TW,so gnome menu is chinese. But when I instell package,gnome menu can't update to correct language. I need relogin(logout and login again.Has this word??) to update . I record a movie(6 MB) with the debain 6.0.1a. Please download from this link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KEU3ZLUH How weird. I've never seen that before, only the Debian menu reverts to English and the other remain :-? Oh ,yes,It's Debian menu. It reverts to English at 1:09 of movie. Does it happen always, regardless the application you install and the method you use (synaptic, command line...)? I just use aptitude only,but my friend use synaptic with same problem. This problem look like happen after menu trigger, so I think it will happen to any installer. You can see menu's word change to Enilash from chinese in installing. Have any idea? I would make some tests: - Try to create a new user account and check if the same happens from there. - After installing any package, restart the gnome-panel (from console, run killall gnome-panel) and recheck the Debian menu language. new account : No,It can't solve problem. killall gnome-panel : Yes! It solved. :D So,It's bug? If yes,I need report to menu or gnome-panel? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.05.22.11.53...@gmail.com comment: I don't care English menu,but my friend care. So I ask instead of him. And ,thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=mna5veg4rbfbrg23oqljd4rb...@mail.gmail.com
Gnome menu can't update to correct language.
Hi. My locale is set to zh_TW,so gnome menu is chinese. But when I instell package,gnome menu can't update to correct language. I need relogin(logout and login again.Has this word??) to update . I record a movie(6 MB) with the debain 6.0.1a. Please download from this link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KEU3ZLUH You can see menu's word change to Enilash from chinese in installing. Have any idea? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=sbrynyedxsqjmobpe7pzq3q3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Gnome menu can't update to correct language.
2011/5/22 spp mg sm.sp...@gmail.com: Hi. My locale is set to zh_TW,so gnome menu is chinese. But when I instell package,gnome menu can't update to correct language. I need relogin(logout and login again.Has this word??) to update . I record a movie(6 MB) with the debain 6.0.1a. Please download from this link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KEU3ZLUH You can see menu's word change to Enilash from chinese in installing. Have any idea? Oh! The Enilash should be English. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktimkc38x_pfbsy2m9zdxp0m1pgc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: firmware-realtek (0.29) can't work at amd64
2011/5/17 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Mon, 16 May 2011 14:39:47 +0800, spp mg wrote: 2011/5/9 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Mon, 09 May 2011 15:05:12 +0800, spp mg wrote: I have rtl8191su wireless chip,and os is debian amd64 testing. I can compile source from RealTek in kernel 2.6.26,but the newer can't. So I try to use apt install the firmware-realtek (0.29).(I believe rtl8192 and rtl8191 use same source.),but it can't work too. And I try to use the i386 system( kernel 2.6.38, installed firmware-realtek (0.29)),it work perfect! How to solve this problem? thanks a lot . I'm not sure if you have already tried with any of the mentioned in this wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x It seems the driver has been available since kernel 2.6.32-10 so it should also be present for 2.6.38-x and upwards :-? sorry,I am too late to reply. (no problem, but don't make use of html formatted messages and better yet if you reply at bottom or inline and don't cross-post ;-)) Ok, like this? Because I have not the RTL chip at hand.I can't try now. I try to describe detail. I use wicd (RTL8191SU and amd64) connect wireless network. wicd scan function is ok, but when I connect net,it will connect a long time,and display password error.But I'm sure password is right.(The config can use in kernel 2.6.26.) Make wicd to be more verbose if possible, there must be an option in the program settings you can toggle on. Oh,I used wicd-curses.I will try to use wicd-cli or find logs. On the i386,I just use apt install firmware-realtek (0.29). And it works fine? Then it can be a bug within the amd64 port package. Yes,it's works fine. When I go back hometown (less then 1 month), I will use live cd of i386 and amd64 to test again. Because I just use other computer to test i386. If it's bug,how to report? -- Other information : When RTL chip work ,r8712u will load. I read the Wheezy section (from the debian wiki page). I just don't do that : cp rtl8192u_linux_2.6.0006.1031.2008/firmware/RTL8192U/* /usr/local/lib/firmware/RTL8192U (And my chip is not 8192.) Your chipset (rtl8191su) should be supported by r8712u driver, or at least that's what it says the wiki page. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.05.16.17.44...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTimtL-eTb2i8YCt3J=xkwdsdkqy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: firmware-realtek (0.29) can't work at amd64
sorry,I am too late to reply. Because I have not the RTL chip at hand.I can't try now. I try to describe detail. I use wicd (RTL8191SU and amd64) connect wireless network. wicd scan function is ok, but when I connect net,it will connect a long time,and display password error.But I'm sure password is right.(The config can use in kernel 2.6.26.) On the i386,I just use apt install firmware-realtek (0.29). -- Other information : When RTL chip work ,r8712u will load. I read the Wheezy section (from the debian wiki page). I just don't do that : cp rtl8192u_linux_2.6.0006.1031.2008/firmware/RTL8192U/* /usr/local/lib/firmware/RTL8192U (And my chip is not 8192.) 2011/5/9 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Mon, 09 May 2011 15:05:12 +0800, spp mg wrote: I have rtl8191su wireless chip,and os is debian amd64 testing. I can compile source from RealTek in kernel 2.6.26,but the newer can't. So I try to use apt install the firmware-realtek (0.29).(I believe rtl8192 and rtl8191 use same source.),but it can't work too. And I try to use the i386 system( kernel 2.6.38, installed firmware-realtek (0.29)),it work perfect! How to solve this problem? thanks a lot . I'm not sure if you have already tried with any of the mentioned in this wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x It seems the driver has been available since kernel 2.6.32-10 so it should also be present for 2.6.38-x and upwards :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.05.09.15.23...@gmail.com
firmware-realtek (0.29) can't work at amd64
hi I have rtl8191su wireless chip,and os is debian amd64 testing. I can compile source from RealTek in kernel 2.6.26,but the newer can't. So I try to use apt install the firmware-realtek (0.29).(I believe rtl8192 and rtl8191 use same source.),but it can't work too. And I try to use the i386 system( kernel 2.6.38, installed firmware-realtek (0.29)),it work perfect! How to solve this problem? thanks a lot .
Re: Help us,please!
2008/6/9 spp mg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/6/9 Mihira Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 09 June 2008 10:35:31 敏 何 wrote: 尊敬的工作人员你们好! [snip] 请您在报纸上发表,帮帮中国人民,我们不希望让奥运精神带着遗憾离去,也不希望我们遗憾地与奥运会失之交臂.因为我们对于奥运会的支持只剩下收看奥运节目为奥运 祝福.THANK YOU! I come from suzhou.CHINA 2008-6-9 Can you resend this in English please ? this list operates in English. Mihira. It's about Communist Party,China(PRC) and Olympic Games. no debian! (My English is bad^999,sorry!)