Re: xfce install

2022-12-25 Thread steef van duin

Greg Wooledge schreef op 24-12-2022 om 18:50:

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:21:44PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, December 24, 2022 09:44:49 AM Nicolas George wrote:

Before asking for help about a command-line, type:

unset LC_ALL
export LC_MESSAGES=C

… and re-run the command.

That sounds like good advice, but then the "user" (the person asking for help)
needs to know how to restore his system, so instructions should be included to
do that.

"Afterward, simply exit from this terminal."  None of these changes are
permanent.

An even simpler set of instructions would be:

1) Open a new terminal, or run a new instance of your shell.

2) export LC_ALL=C

3) Run your comands.  Paste the commands and their results into the body
of your email.

4) Exit from this shell/terminal.




Thank you greg and others for your expert answers. as a kind of christmas 
present i got xfce4 going again! going this morning!

steef



xfce install

2022-12-24 Thread steef van duin

hi folks
i am wrestling with a fresh 11.6-black-screen installation to get a 
xfce-desktop going.

allthough I think I used from the commandline the most appropriate commands by apt i keep gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4'   when i 
do btw sudo apt-get install xfce4.

anhybody a solution for this?

kind regarfs and thanks,

steef

groningen


Re: seamonkey in dutch

2021-09-29 Thread steef van duin


Richard,

sensible advice! and, i try it here in english too. higher list-density.

thanx

steef


Richard Owlett schreef op 29-09-2021 om 11:32:

May I suggest posting to debian-user-du...@lists.debian.org .
[see https://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html for a list of "debian-user" 
groups in various languages]

Also there is an active Seamonkey group at alt.comp.software.seamonkey .
It is a English list, but someone there may be able to point you to an 
appropriate Dutch list.

HTH


On 09/28/2021 02:30 PM, steef van duin wrote:

hallo,

ik installeerde eerder de nieuwste versie van seamonkey in het Nederlands in een Engelse versie van debian11. Slechts een deel van het 
ge"installeerde email-programma (2.53.9) wordt inderdaad in het Nederlands weergegeven.

mijn vraag: is het mogelijk ook zonder debian11 te 'vernederlandsen' de hele 
installatie van seamonkey naar het Nederlands te veranderen?

een tweede vraag aan mijn Hollandse medegebruikers: hoe krijg ik onder debian11 de zogeheten diakritische tekens in het Nederlands terug 
aan het werk? Dit was eertijds een fluitje van een cent 'met dode toetsen' etc.;maar is nu voor mij in ieder geval onmogelijk. Wat zie ik 
over het hoofd??


Vast bedankt voor als iemand de moeite nemt iets zinnigs hierover neer te 
schrijven

steef van duin
groningen











seamonkey in dutch

2021-09-28 Thread steef van duin

hallo,

ik installeerde eerder de nieuwste versie van seamonkey in het Nederlands in een Engelse versie van debian11. Slechts een deel van het 
ge"installeerde email-programma (2.53.9) wordt inderdaad in het Nederlands weergegeven.

mijn vraag: is het mogelijk ook zonder debian11 te 'vernederlandsen' de hele 
installatie van seamonkey naar het Nederlands te veranderen?

een tweede vraag aan mijn Hollandse medegebruikers: hoe krijg ik onder debian11 de zogeheten diakritische tekens in het Nederlands terug aan 
het werk? Dit was eertijds een fluitje van een cent 'met dode toetsen' etc.;maar is nu voor mij in ieder geval onmogelijk. Wat zie ik over 
het hoofd??


Vast bedankt voor als iemand de moeite nemt iets zinnigs hierover neer te 
schrijven

steef van duin
groningen




font-colour on a bullseye desktop: (too) white

2021-08-19 Thread steef van duin

i am sorry. it is a long time i was mailing to this list for help


OK.  Now we know which terminal you use, and this*probably*  also means
you're running XFCE as your desktop environment.  That will be useful
information for the thread back on the mailing list.

yes, that is right  i am using xfce, last version

regards

steef
 



font-colour on desktop

2021-08-19 Thread steef van duin

hi folks

a small problem for me in using bullseye: how can I change the colours of the 
fonts on the desktop??
(if possible)
thanks a lot

cheers,

steef
groningen


pictograms

2021-06-22 Thread steef van duin

  
  
Hi,

somehow i did something very stupid.: I cannot get 'the' large
pictograms back in my home file. How do i do that? I seem to
have forgotten this.

Sorry,

steef

(dutch) Ik heb gedachtenloos klaarblijkelijk iets nogal doms
gedaan. De grotere vrijstaande pistagrammen in mij  home-bestand
lijken niet simpel terug te halen zijn. Hoe krijg ik dat ook
weer voor elkaar?

steef 

  
  




downloaded txt.iso file: how to make a bootable cdimage out of it??

2004-07-05 Thread steef van duin
hello out there,
i should appreciate some illuminating help with the following problem:
for some reasons i temporarily fell back for work on woody, standard 
vanilla kernel.

yesterday i downloaded an official .iso file from woody (first cd) for a 
friend of mine.

i only can get this on my harddisk as a text_file, ending on .iso.
when I burn this file of about 599 MB with cdrecord and i mount this 
file the only thing i see is  debian xxx.iso 

my question: how can i tell my machine (the 'vanilla_machine') to make a 
bootable CDimage.iso file out of this downloaded file?

what did i do wrong?
thank you all,
steef
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Re: downloaded txt.iso file: how to make a bootable cdimage out of it??

2004-07-05 Thread steef van duin
Jérémie Knuesel wrote:
when I burn this file of about 599 MB with cdrecord and i mount this 
file the only thing i see is  debian xxx.iso 
   

I don't know what's going on but instead of wasting CD-Rs you can mount
the iso file directly with the loop device. For example, instead of
burning the iso you can do:
mount file.iso /mnt/whatever -o loop
 

Then you can see the content of the iso in /mnt/whatever. If what you
see is a new iso file, you can try to mount this file too :)
mount /mnt/whatever/debian\ xxx.iso /mnt/whatever2 -o loop
So you can check what you would get if you burned the file.
Yours,
Jérémie K.
 

thank you, jeremie for your answer. and,
yes i loop-mounted the image.iso (made under woody) and so i could read 
what is in this file, which seems to be allright. yet this cdrom i made 
under woody with cdrecord out of this image does not boot, nor under 
woody vanilla-kernel nor under sarge.

so i made another cdrom with sarge and - lo -  out came a bootable cdrom 
which i gonna give to my friend-musician.

so the queation remains: why does sarge make bootable cdroms 
(cdimage.iso's)  and woody not. anybody who knows the answer on that 
question?

however: maybe can cdrtoast be of some help under woody: i gonna spend 
one more cdrom on this. cost me 60 eurocents (one old dutch guilder and 
35 cents) and some reading and googling.

thanx,
steef

steef
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Re: office package

2004-06-19 Thread steef van duin
Jeff Elkins wrote:
Openoffice.org?
On 18 Jun 2004 22:18:47 -0300, Hector Scaramelli wrote
 

Hi People,
I need suggestion as to which is the office package ( basically capable
of importing word and excel docs) that best works on Debian. I don't
want to install KDE. I use Blackbox window manager.
Thanks
Hector
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got a good experience with the latest package (1.1.1) i downloaded as 
tar.gz from the openoffice_site www.openoffice.org. (in my native 
tongue: dutch).

cheers,
steef

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Re: xcdroast in kernel 2.6 doesn't work with ATAPI or SCSI - BY-PASSED

2004-06-15 Thread steef van duin
Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 15 Jun 2004, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 

It's supposed to be unnecessary to use scsi-emulation in 2.6 kernels but
if I try to use ATAPI, xcdroast simply hangs with a message saying it
won't work properly (this is latest version from Sid).
I therefore gave up and compiled a kernel with SCSI emulation, which
worked for me in kernel 2.4, but in 2.6 it fails to detect any drives at
all, even though syslog shows that scsi emulation has worked.
Is there any way round this or do I have to revert to a 2.4 kernel
whenever I want to burn a CD? Does cdrecord work in 2.6 (I've never got
into cdrecord directly yet).
   

xcdroast resolutely refuses to run, but after a couple of hours work I
got to grips with mkisofs and cdrecord and I can now burn CDs without
problems. Probably rather quicker and easier than xcdroast, in fact.
Anthony
 

indeed. use mkisofs, cdrecord  (and if necessary) cdparanoia. that's an 
commandline solution for burning cdroms.

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Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-09 Thread steef van duin
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, David Moreno Garza wrote:
 

On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 15:30, W Paul Mills wrote:
   

As in every other aspect of life, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
   

Humm...
He is a new debian user, and you want him to start fixing things
immediately. He may never stick around that long. Give him a break!
 

Yes, there are always people who forget these simple things when talking
of/with new users.
   

Perhaps you and Paul think I meant by fixing things that the original
poster should start learning C and building packages etc.  Far from it!
There are many ways in which Debian can be helped which don't require
programming.  All it takes is a willingness to jump in.  Back in 1997 I
was a new user (not new to Linux though but still in the dark about a lot
of things.) I was complaining about something or another on this very
list.  And the answer I got was exactly So why don't you fix it?  And I
did and here I am today.  I didn't complain about the answer because
that's what I and everyone else thought you were supposed to do.
Somewhere down the line people have started thinking that Linux is a
product and Debian is a vendor.  Well it isn't and we aren't.  There
are vendors who have made products out of Linux and even Debian in
particular but they ask for something else in return usually money.  So
when the original poster says that Suse is a product that fits his needs
but he doesn't want to pay for it frankly I don't have much sympathy.
It's not about complaining.  Criticize all you want the stuff in Debian
that deserves criticism.  But back the complaints up with some action or
it just looks like whining.
 

i agree completely.  i reject the abject consumerism with 'products' and 
'vendors' as well completely.
BUT, I hope I do not do that forgetting a certain humanist mildness. so 
give this poster a break.

steef
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Re: OpenOffice Word Count?

2004-06-09 Thread steef van duin
Ed Sutherland wrote:
Is there anyway to display the wordcount in the status bar of the editor?
Ed

yes, but it is well hidden. look under: file  properties statistics  
(left-top) in any textfile

good luck,
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Re: slow cd burning

2004-06-07 Thread steef van duin
Rodney D. Myers wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:53:12 -0400
Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Christian Christmann wrote:
   

Hi,
on my Debian box I'm running the kernel 2.6.6.
I've read somewhere that the kernel 2.6 doesn't need
the SCSI-emulation for IDE-burner anymore and thus
I disabled this option while compiling the kernel.
Now burning CDs is running very slowly. Even if I tell
Xcdroast to burn with 16x, the speed goes down to less
than 2x.
And ideas how to solve this problem?
Thanks,
Chris
 

I had a problem similar to that and also encountered
occasional lock ups.  The solution was to DISABLE
DMA on my CD burner.  Not sure what the issue is, but
that was the solution.
-Roberto Sanchez
   

Don't know that I have or had DMA tuend on, but I point k3b  XCDRoast
to my cdroms directly /dev/hdc  /dev/hdd, and I've had no problems in
the past few weeks, since debian came out with a 2.6.* kernel
 

you might try burning with cdrecord. on sarge with a 2.4.x kernel 
cdrecord works excellent if you tell cdrecord to burn with  
dev=ATAPI:x,y,z  xyz you can, of course, find with
cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus

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Re: scsi under sarge

2004-06-02 Thread steef van duin
steef van duin wrote:
Katipo wrote:
steef van duin wrote:
hi david, down here what I did before, but cdrecord does not react on
dev=1,0,0  (the aopen com4824 is the burner), so it seems i am stuck
any further suggestions?
thanks in advance,
regards,
steef
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a27 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 
Jörg Schilling
NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release 
of cdrecord
 and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original 
version.
 Please send bug reports and support requests to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
 The original author should not be bothered with problems of 
this version.

scsidev: 'ATAPI'
devname: 'ATAPI'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha.
Warning: There may be fatal problems.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities 
page.
   0,0,0 0) 'E-IDE   ' 'CD-ROM 52X/AKH  ' 'A64 ' Removable 
CD-ROM
   0,1,0 1) *
   0,2,0 2) *
   0,3,0 3) *
   0,4,0 4) *
   0,5,0 5) *
   0,6,0 6) *
   0,7,0 7) *
scsibus1:
   1,0,0   100) 'AOPEN   ' 'COM4824 ' '1.01' Removable 
CD-ROM
   1,1,0   101) *
   1,2,0   102) *
   1,3,0   103) *
   1,4,0   104) *
   1,5,0   105) *
   1,6,0   106) *
   1,7,0   107) *


Hello Steef,
A couple of things ring bells here, but I haven't really got the 
experience to actually point and say 'this should be foo, instead of 
bar.'
I get the idea that things maybe haven't been configured to use the 
ide-scsi driver properly.
You might have to check that /etc/modules and your bootloader have 
been edited appropriately, and this:-

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-cdburn.html
under the heading of 'Linux SCSI  emulation adventures' helped me to 
get set up, and would probably be more help to you than my limited 
knowledge.
Good luck.
Regards,

David.

thanks david, gonna get to work on this after a long walk with my twins.
reg.,
steef

hello david, for the last time for now.
the solution appeared to be a simple one; for writing with scsi under sarge.
i was still stuck on add's as append=hdx=ide-scsi which are nor 
needed anymore.

well after some work - in a nutshell -  i did as root something like
cdrecord  dev=ATAPI:x,y,z -v -data speed=8 -eject /home/steef/
x,y,z becomes of course cristalclear with  $ cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus.
the result is a perfect cdrom.
and,
thanks for your help again,
steef


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Re: USB driver for digital camera?

2004-05-31 Thread steef van duin
Marc Shapiro wrote:
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If its twain compatible its probably not acting as a usb-storage device
but more probably using a scanner or webcam interface.
You could try the webcam software such as gphoto2 and friends (depends
on video for linux in the kernel IIRC) or I think there is also a
camera backend for (x)sane.
 

I have installed both gphoto2 and xsane, but neither one detects the 
camera.  (The camera IS on the list of EXPERIMENTAL cameras supported 
by gphoto2.)  After installing xsane I did a 'modprobe scanner', but 
that did not solve the problem for either program.  Is there some 
other module that should be loaded, or another package that is not 
listed in the dependancies that I need?

Marc Shapiro

did you install libphoto2-2-dev, libphoto2-2  and libexif ?? usbmgr 
could possibly be a solution too for detecting a dev on usb.


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Re: scsi under sarge

2004-05-30 Thread steef van duin
Katipo wrote:
steef van duin wrote:
hi david, down here what I did before, but cdrecord does not react on
dev=1,0,0  (the aopen com4824 is the burner), so it seems i am stuck
any further suggestions?
thanks in advance,
regards,
steef
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a27 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 
Jörg Schilling
NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of 
cdrecord
 and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original 
version.
 Please send bug reports and support requests to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
 The original author should not be bothered with problems of this 
version.

scsidev: 'ATAPI'
devname: 'ATAPI'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha.
Warning: There may be fatal problems.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities 
page.
   0,0,0 0) 'E-IDE   ' 'CD-ROM 52X/AKH  ' 'A64 ' Removable 
CD-ROM
   0,1,0 1) *
   0,2,0 2) *
   0,3,0 3) *
   0,4,0 4) *
   0,5,0 5) *
   0,6,0 6) *
   0,7,0 7) *
scsibus1:
   1,0,0   100) 'AOPEN   ' 'COM4824 ' '1.01' Removable 
CD-ROM
   1,1,0   101) *
   1,2,0   102) *
   1,3,0   103) *
   1,4,0   104) *
   1,5,0   105) *
   1,6,0   106) *
   1,7,0   107) *


Hello Steef,
A couple of things ring bells here, but I haven't really got the 
experience to actually point and say 'this should be foo, instead of 
bar.'
I get the idea that things maybe haven't been configured to use the 
ide-scsi driver properly.
You might have to check that /etc/modules and your bootloader have 
been edited appropriately, and this:-

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-cdburn.html
under the heading of 'Linux SCSI  emulation adventures' helped me to 
get set up, and would probably be more help to you than my limited 
knowledge.
Good luck.
Regards,

David.

thanks david, gonna get to work on this after a long walk with my twins.
reg.,
steef
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Re: scsi under sarge

2004-05-29 Thread steef van duin
steef van duin wrote:
Adam Aube wrote:
steef van duin wrote:
 

how do i get cdrecord to recognize my cd-writer under sarge?
  

What kernel - 2.4 or 2.6?
 

cdrecord dev=ATAPI recognizes my cdrom but not the writer.
scsi-emulation and sg are (automatically) installed as modprobe tells
me. guess i must grub tell something. lilo did not cause me this 
kind of
trouble.
  

So you're trying to use SCSI emulation.
In LILO, depending on the which IDE device the writer is, it's
append=hd[a-d]=ide-scsi
Check the man page for grub to see what the equivalent is.
Adam
 

... i know. did both things allready. under woody a long time with 
lilo; under sarge  i installed yesterday grub-doc but it seems not to 
work as i want. (allthough i can burn with xcdroast and the new 
'star'  k3b) however: i like to work from the console with cdparanoia 
and cdrecord. gonna check my logs now before i ask for further 
suggestions.

...it does not seem to be possible to download the man page on 
grub for unstable (sarge) so i repeat my question:

i want to use scsi-emulation under unstable. sg and scsi emulation 
modules loaded automatically.  i am using kernel 2.4. like to work from 
the concole, using cdrecord and cdparanoia.

so: please help me out. any further suggestions??
steef
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Re: scsi under sarge

2004-05-29 Thread steef van duin
Katipo wrote:
steef van duin wrote:
...it does not seem to be possible to download the man page 
on grub for unstable (sarge) so i repeat my question:

i want to use scsi-emulation under unstable. sg and scsi emulation 
modules loaded automatically.  i am using kernel 2.4. like to work 
from the concole, using cdrecord and cdparanoia.

so: please help me out. any further suggestions??
steef

Hello,
Have you checked out scanbus?
With the new set-up you might have to put a different cd-rw config 
into your command line.
Regards,

David.

hi david, down here what I did before, but cdrecord does not react on
dev=1,0,0  (the aopen com4824 is the burner), so it seems i am stuck
any further suggestions?
thanks in advance,
regards,
steef
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a27 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg 
Schilling
NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of 
cdrecord
 and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.
 Please send bug reports and support requests to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
 The original author should not be bothered with problems of this 
version.

scsidev: 'ATAPI'
devname: 'ATAPI'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha.
Warning: There may be fatal problems.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
   0,0,0 0) 'E-IDE   ' 'CD-ROM 52X/AKH  ' 'A64 ' Removable CD-ROM
   0,1,0 1) *
   0,2,0 2) *
   0,3,0 3) *
   0,4,0 4) *
   0,5,0 5) *
   0,6,0 6) *
   0,7,0 7) *
scsibus1:
   1,0,0   100) 'AOPEN   ' 'COM4824 ' '1.01' Removable CD-ROM
   1,1,0   101) *
   1,2,0   102) *
   1,3,0   103) *
   1,4,0   104) *
   1,5,0   105) *
   1,6,0   106) *
   1,7,0   107) *
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Re: Is debian site down?

2004-05-29 Thread steef van duin
Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
Is the debian site down?
 

yes, so it seems,
steef
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scsi under sarge

2004-05-28 Thread steef van duin
hello out there,
I tried hard but i guess i miss something:
so i put a (maybe stupid) question on this list:
how do i get cdrecord to recognize my cd-writer under sarge?
cdrecord -scanbus does not work,
cdrecord dev=ATAPI recognizes my cdrom but not the writer. 
scsi-emulation and sg are (automatically) installed as modprobe tells 
me. guess i must grub tell something. lilo did not cause me this kind of 
trouble.

thanks and kind regards,
steef
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Re: scsi under sarge

2004-05-28 Thread steef van duin
Adam Aube wrote:
steef van duin wrote:
 

how do i get cdrecord to recognize my cd-writer under sarge?
   

What kernel - 2.4 or 2.6?
 

cdrecord dev=ATAPI recognizes my cdrom but not the writer.
scsi-emulation and sg are (automatically) installed as modprobe tells
me. guess i must grub tell something. lilo did not cause me this kind of
trouble.
   

So you're trying to use SCSI emulation.
In LILO, depending on the which IDE device the writer is, it's
append=hd[a-d]=ide-scsi
Check the man page for grub to see what the equivalent is.
Adam
 

... i know. did both things allready. under woody a long time with lilo; 
under sarge  i installed yesterday grub-doc but it seems not to work as 
i want. (allthough i can burn with xcdroast and the new 'star'  k3b) 
however: i like to work from the console with cdparanoia and cdrecord. 
gonna check my logs now before i ask for further suggestions.

well, adam, thanks anyway.
cheers,
steef
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Re: One-shot command-line sound player that can handle wav, ogg and mp3?

2004-05-20 Thread steef van duin
Joseph Jones wrote:
In the end I just did the smart thing and installed alsaplayer and
alsaplayer-text :)
Joe
Joseph Jones wrote:
I'm looking to replace the way KDE handles notification sounds... 
That is, rather than using it's own sound system to noify me using 
it's sounds, using a command-line audio player!

Anybody have any recommendations? Having gotten ALSA working this 
would really tighten my system up a fair bit.

Joe


try mp3blaster, the ' mother of [later] inventions '
gl
steef
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Re: Sarge bootdisk

2004-05-20 Thread steef van duin
john gennard wrote:

steef van duin wrote:
Katipo wrote:
john gennard wrote:
Am trying to do a new install of Sarge from a DVD. The new
installer does not appear to allow the creation of a bootdisk
(although the text assumes you can do so).


I don't see why the new installer should vary from dvd to cd, as I 
checked out both Beta3 and 4, and both had the boot disc option as I 
recall.


The Ash shell launchable from the installer does not include
'mkboot', so cannot be used.
I already have Knoppix installed on this new disk - if I mount
the partition containing the basic/part installed Sarge, I cannot
create a bootdisk that way, although with a little trying I can
probably put lilo on a floppy and boot that way.
I've always preferred to use bootdisks or lilo on a floppy , as yet
another OS can give me problems if I use the MBR.


How many OSs are you running, that they should give you problems.
I play with them, so I have found it easier to install them on 
separate drives in mobile racks.
This could possibly be a solution for you, dependent on your situation.


Is there any easy way for me to solve this problem?
John.

Regards,
David.

beta 4 certainly has a boot-disk option, as I recall well. so: what 
did you do exactly to 'avoid' the option???

steef 

steel,
I did nothing to 'avoid' the option, quite simply it was not made 
available to me.
I'm not sure whether the DVD contains beta4 - the write up merely says 
 taken
the latest Debian DVD build made with the jigdo tool

At the end of the base install, I was given the options:-
   Use bootloader Grub
   Use bootloader Lilo
   Proceed without a bootloader
Then comes reboot, which I cannot do - if I could, I would go to the
base system configuration tool menu.
John.

hi john,
my mistake! humble apologees. the dvd-installer is obvious different 
from the cdrom 109 MB I used. a fact, allthough not completely logical 
in my opinion.

cheers,
steef
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Re: [OT] Debian Users: Please boycott Paypal

2004-05-20 Thread steef van duin
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 05:56:05PM +1000, James Buchanan wrote:
 

Thanks, but just because we are debian users, it does not make us a
willing party or lobbyist group.
Take your arguments elsewhere. 
 

Thanks, but if you don't want to play you don't have to, kid.
Take your poo-poos elsewhere.
   

Try to stay on topic on the list?
The kernel maintainer walked because of political issues in Debian.
 

hey man, stop wasting my time.
steef
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Re: Sarge bootdisk

2004-05-18 Thread steef van duin
Katipo wrote:
john gennard wrote:
Am trying to do a new install of Sarge from a DVD. The new
installer does not appear to allow the creation of a bootdisk
(although the text assumes you can do so).

I don't see why the new installer should vary from dvd to cd, as I 
checked out both Beta3 and 4, and both had the boot disc option as I 
recall.


The Ash shell launchable from the installer does not include
'mkboot', so cannot be used.
I already have Knoppix installed on this new disk - if I mount
the partition containing the basic/part installed Sarge, I cannot
create a bootdisk that way, although with a little trying I can
probably put lilo on a floppy and boot that way.
I've always preferred to use bootdisks or lilo on a floppy , as yet
another OS can give me problems if I use the MBR.

How many OSs are you running, that they should give you problems.
I play with them, so I have found it easier to install them on 
separate drives in mobile racks.
This could possibly be a solution for you, dependent on your situation.


Is there any easy way for me to solve this problem?
John.

Regards,
David.

beta 4 certainly has a boot-disk option, as I recall well. so: what did 
you do exactly to 'avoid' the option???

steef
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