Re: Nightstand Terminal
On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 06:54 -0500, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote: Once again, the biggest problem is getting you guys to be verbose ;-) Does anybody have experience with the following? 1) A smaller cheaper box, perhaps a stand alone box that takes smaller and slower laptop parts? If I were you, I'd look into a LCD Screen with an X-terminal built-in. Or an LCD X-Term. 2) What about serial terminals? The new ones are $400 at CDW.com, but I see that you can get refurbised ones at $20 on ebay? Any ideas on finding companies that are throwing these out? Is the money savings worth not being able to use xfree86 remotely in your own network? At $400 for a new one, perhaps I should buy my girl a Dell, and take her old 386 and begin hacking that? Not even really worth the effort. Plain old... OMFG. Get her an XTerm too and then use a switch, enable XDMCP logins on your Linux machine. You'll get a graphical login for your X-terms. Ebay has some too. 3) Since an old laptop is a possible solution based on it's size, any reccommended sources for purchasing used laptops that are known to be able to run Woody?! Invest in LTSP.org It will give you a terminal that can be very quiet with the horsepower of your workstation. I use a number of notebooks for these clients. The hard drive is not running so there's zero noise and the power consumption is on the order of 10W. Very compatable. Very easy to set up. I think the entire learning curve is a good Sunday. Assumption: It requires the following: DHCP DNS (optional) tftpd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nightstand Terminal
*snip* Through LTSP (which works very nicely with Debian) you could configure a client workstation to run a X-window session from the big, loud, hot workstation/server you want to monitor. But the hardware could be configured in the BIOS to run without the hard drive or to spin down the hard drive after one minute. Interesting ... is there a way to spin up/down the hard drives from the os? Not with LTSP. You do it in the BIOS. But then you don't need a hard drive. LTSP can boot from: Hard drive Floppy disk PXE Network boot NIC ROM http://www.ltsp.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postfix logrotate
On Friday 10 December 2004 05:07, Tom Allison wrote: I would like to be able to rotate my logs on a daily (midnight) basis. Currently they are rotating at 6:23AM daily. I didn't see anything that would specify the time of day to do a daily/weekly rotation. You can change the time scripts in /etc/cron.daily run by modifying the file /etc/crontab. So that's where it's hiding. I don't recall seeing that in the docs I checked. I'll have to see if I can find them. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nightstand Terminal
On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 12:32 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 06:54 -0500, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote: [snip] Very compatable. Very easy to set up. I think the entire learning curve is a good Sunday. Assumption: It requires the following: DHCP DNS (optional) tftpd What about X? Is it required, and, if so, does [xgk]dm have to be running on the back-end machine? I believe X is required since it uses the XDMCP protocol to do the work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nightstand Terminal
On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 12:32 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Invest in LTSP.org It will give you a terminal that can be very quiet with the horsepower of your workstation. I use a number of notebooks for these clients. The hard drive is not running so there's zero noise and the power consumption is on the order of 10W. Very compatable. Very easy to set up. I think the entire learning curve is a good Sunday. Assumption: It requires the following: DHCP DNS (optional) tftpd Why would I need LTSP? I have Debian. I have been using Debian doing these kinds of things like forever. (Well before Debian twas RedHat and before that HPUX and etc...) -- I assumed that Nightstand was to imply a small workstation with a strong preference for very, very quiet operations. Also something that might be left on for days at a time. Through LTSP (which works very nicely with Debian) you could configure a client workstation to run a X-window session from the big, loud, hot workstation/server you want to monitor. But the hardware could be configured in the BIOS to run without the hard drive or to spin down the hard drive after one minute. This would leave you with a very quiet machine that you could leave on for hours or days at a time. Additionally it can be run from anything that is at least a 486 with 16-32MB RAM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Well documented [was Re: nvidia drivers]
On Tuesday 24 Aug 2004 00:17, Tom Allison wrote: I was able to install by doing: apt-get kernel-headers... and then running the NVIDIA package they provide on their website. I don't know, but the kernel-source may be necessary, but I doubt it. I have it installed, that's why I mention it. It's all well documented what you have to do. Once you realise that the best documentation for knowing how to use packages in Debian is often to be found in /usr/share/doc/package-name, everything becomes straightforward. (Thanks to those fine chaps, the Debian developers, for their excellent READMEs.) Install these Debian packages :- nvidia-glx - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver nvidia-kernel-common- NVIDIA binary kernel module common files nvidia-kernel-source - NVIDIA binary kernel module source Then carefully follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.Debian This would probably work very well and it certainly looked well designed. However, it tends to only work for the 2.4 kernel and I'm working with the 2.6 kernel. I repeatedly was asked to pull in 2.4.x based on dependencies. So, I decided to take a potentially simpler approach of: 1) installing the kernel I want. 2) installing the headers for same kernel. 3) pulling in the nvidia script from the nvidia website. 4) running same script voila! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X Server Crash
Hello everyone, This is my first posting to any debian list. I had a problem with an X Server Crash whose output, together with that of scanpci, is pasted below. I digged around lists.debian.org and found similar problems experienced by others, only that they didn't help. I'm running Woody 3.0r2. Is it possible to successfully run X without upgrading any software and if so how. Thanks. (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found Wish I had an answer for you. I have the same problem. I am not sure why it's like this, but dumb problem comes to mind. If I find anything tonight, I'll be sure to post it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nfs-kernel-server and firewalls
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:10:10 +0200, Tom Allison wrote: Portmapper sits on one port, but it's redirecting the nfs connection all over the place. I can't seem to nail it down to one set of ports. The only way I can think of sorting this out would be to allow any packets between the server and client, filtering on either IP or MAC address. I guess that could work. All my addresses are static IP addresses, so I could config it. But I'm wondering what it is that I'm missing. Is this the difference between kernel and user nfs servers? Are there some args to pass at modprobe time? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia installation
Hi Tom! On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Tom Allison wrote: [snip] Is there some way to use the stock kernel-image-2.6 deb packages without rebuilding my own kernel and use NVIDIA drivers? The howto's imply that this can only be done by building your own kernel. I can and have in the past, but I really don't care to anymore as it's not a significant win for me. [snip] I'm running the stock 2.6.5 kernel image with nvidia's drivers. The only thing I had to do was: 1. Install kernel-headers apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) 2. Create a sym link that points to the headers ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers-$(uname -r) /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build 3. Install Nvidia drivers. Just execute NVIDIA-Linux-x86-*.*--pkg1.run and it will build the driver. I've done this on every kernel I've used since 2.4. This is great! You make it sound too easy. Heck, I should be able to write a script to do this for me... something that captures uname -r into a temp file and if that's different or missing, then create it anew and run the link and .run files... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running SCO RM-COBOL under Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r1
Hi all, I have received the task of doing a migration from a SCO Unix server to a Debian GNU/Linux one, the only problem its a COBOL app that is running on the SCO system, I have found information about using SCO binaries under Linux, but it's quite old, does anyone have recent information about this?. What will I need? appart from the SCO binaries and libs. No expert here, but how does this relate to the linux project tiny cobol ??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X Broken
on Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 10:57:41AM -0800, Mark Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: My X won't work with the default installation. When I boot it tries to start it and after several attempts I get a message telling me to look at the log followed by one asking if I want to try automatic configuration. I did that and nothing changed. Someone Suggested that I boot knoppix and copy /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 from there to my hd and reboot. I did that. X started but with no mouse movement. Just a cursor. Here's the log, followed by the config file. My hardware is listed in my .sig. Try: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 In Knoppix: copy the XF86Config-4 file it uses, and diff it against your own. Also, check /var/log/syslog and ~/.xsession-errors. I have a problem where I am unable to create a temp directory (mktemp - Permission Denied) and had to fix it by tweaking the /tmp permissions. I didn't find this until I checked the ~/.xsession-errors but I could run as root... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: severe bug:Failure to start X related to /tmp permissions
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 09:42:32PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: ls -l /: drwxr-xr-x root root tmp This is the problem. It's an extremely severe bug. Not really, it's easily reversible. Yes, it is easily reversible. I changed /tmp to rwxrwtrwt (IIRC) and it's working fine. But I've been stung by this once before, over a year ago. is there some way to check the packages to see which ones have some kind of chmod execution in them? Otherwise I'll have to do a reinstallation with a point-by-point verification of the /tmp permissions. Ugly, Long, but maybe it will get me some Karma Points!! :) while easy to fix, extremely frustrating. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: antivirus recomendation?
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 11:33:23AM -0500 or thereabouts, Robert L. Harris wrote: Hello Robert, For home, spam assassin, tell it to tag MS Executables very high (3000) and devnull anything 1000. Ah SA, too resource intensive for me. Professional, so far I like central command's vexira (http://www.centralcommand.com/linux_products.html) They do have a Linux workstation product for $35 which I haven't tried, but the Server version plugs right into exim on linux and can take a massive pounding without noticable increase in load. Ah OK, I'm looking for OSS solutions tho. I see what's available in my cache, I just want some recommendations on what people have used available from the Debian Woody download list. If there are options only available to testing or unstable users, than I'd appreciate knowing of a any good product that's NOT commercial/shareware. But, thanks for taking the time to answer. You can look into clamAV. But if SpamAssassin is too resource intensive I think you will find antivirus scanners to be even more so. clamav+spamassassin scanning in daemon mode takes 10-20 seconds per message. spamassassin scanning in daemon mode takes 2-3 seconds per message. This is based on a Pentiume-II 400MHz 512MB RAM. A very solid set-up that I have is to use postfix + amavisd-new + clamav + spamassassin. It is a little intense in that it will readily suck up the better part of my 512MB of RAM. But it does it all. However, I have to limit the processes to ~10. Still tweaking the values. I'm not sure what resources you are worried about, but I've given you some stats to help you decide. AntiVirus scanning is pretty intense work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another problem starting X with sarge-install
Tom Allison wrote: Do you perhaps have two video cards in the system? Or is the G400 dual-headed? No... Just one G400, single head. After this completed, I rebooted (new kernel) and was able to start up xdm (did not start automatically). Odd that it did not start automatically. Yes... it is. I could login using XDM to the WindowMaker desktop as root. As a non-root user, my login failed and I was sent back to the XDM login screen. Instead of using XDM, can you start X as a normal user with just the startx command? No I cannot run startx as normal user. My first suspicion would be /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config having the line allowed_users=root instead of allowed_users=console. If so, you can change it manually or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common and properly answer the question about who can run X. I was never asked, under Medium dialog, who could run this. I will check it when I get in front of my computer. If this does solve the matter, then I will consider filing a bugreport against the installation. Thanks for the suggestion. At this point I will retry installation of Debian using only -stable packages to see if this can be set up correctly with those packages. Yikes! No need to reinstall. This is just an X issue, not an OS issue. Normally true. But when I run into goofy stuff that I can't seem to identify after the experience overall and time on this one... It's faster to reinstall sometimes. This is a very new setup. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xfree86 failure: mga_hal missing
I have a very annoying problem with my XFree86 set up today. I'm trying to get an installation from -testing and selected the x-window-server to bring everything in. No errors during installation. No errors when I log in as 'root' However, when I log in as a non-root user, it fails and I'm back at the xdm window. XFree86.0.log shows: (II) LoadModule: vgahw (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (II) Module vgahw: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 (**) MGA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) MGA(0): RGB weight 888 (II) Loading sub module mga_hal (II) LoadModule: mga_hal (WW) Warning, couldn't open module mga_hal (II) UnloadModule: mga_hal (EE) MGA: Failed to load module mga_hal (module does not exist, 0) (II) MGA(0): Matrox HAL module not loaded - using builtin mode setup instead (--) MGA(0): Chipset: mgag400 (G400) (==) MGA(0): Using AGP 1x mode (--) MGA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xDC00 (--) MGA(0): MMIO registers at 0xEFAFC000 (--) MGA(0): Pseudo-DMA transfer window at 0xEF00 (--) MGA(0): BIOS at 0xEFAE (II) Truncating PCI BIOS Length to 32768 (--) MGA(0): Video BIOS info block at offset 0x07A80 (WW) MGA(0): Video BIOS info block not detected! (II) MGA(0): MGABios.RamdacType = 0x0 and /var/log/syslog has: Nov 18 18:55:33 debian kernel: [drm:drm_init] *ERROR* Cannot initialize the agpg art module. Nov 18 18:55:39 debian modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-226 Nov 18 18:55:40 debian modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-226 Nov 18 18:55:40 debian kernel: [drm:drm_init] *ERROR* Cannot initialize the agpg art module. and /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Section Module LoadGLcore Loadbitmap Loaddbe Loadddc # Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadrecord Loadspeedo Loadtype1 Loadvbe EndSection This really is strange, because I used to have this particular machine running as one of the best Debian machines I have. Recently it was running Suse, but we had some differences... But this has me stymied. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hardware detection on i386
I haven't done an install on Debian for about 4 years now. I recently played with a few other distriibutions and was impressed with their ability to do hardware detection auth-magically for me. I'm trying to get some feedback on how well Debian performs at being able to detect (and configure) hardware thats on the existing system. Right now I don't care if this is on -stable or -unstable or wherever. I would be nice if it was in the sarge disk-install project, but I'm trying to be more open-minded then that. Is there something that might be available post-install to clean up the rough edges? Specific areas that I'm concerned with are: cd-rw devices xconfiguration And before anyone gets into a discussion about how to do this under the current installation method (using debian 3.0/2.2 methods) please bear in mind that I'm not asking how to do it. I've done it many times in the past. Rather I'm asking if the method of doing it has changed in the non-stable branches or is likely to change in the coming releases. And now for my sob story: I tried Suse 8.2 for about 2 months now and have come to the conclusion that it makes a really excellent desktop installation. Providing you don't attempt to do anything they didn't anticipate or pre-define for you. This is a double edge sword -- you are up and running more than ever before in an hour, but it takes days (if ever) to get anything else running. I also found that much of the software that I was concerned with (it's my itch, OK?) was seriously out of date under SuSE 8.2 compared to my installation of Debian (stable/testing). Which I find ironic since everyone gripes about how ancient Debian is. For my needs and from my experiences, Debian makes for a better mission-critical server than does SuSE. As for the desktop it can be well argued that once configured it doesn't really change (and hence no need for really cool hdwe detection tools). But I'm very curious if the hardware detection/configuration process has made any headway. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a few Qs about debian's apt
hi, a friend of mine has some questions regarding debian. hope you guys could help me answer them :) 1) does 'apt-get upgrade' upgrades: i) the kernel, ii) base apps iii) local apps (/usr/local) I'm probably not an expert here, but... apt-get upgrade will typically not upgrade the kernel. base apps - yes /usr/local apps, I doubt it will since I don't think there's any files there that apt-get cares about. 2) where does apt-get saves all it package information? Somewhere in /var. Sorry for being stupidly vague, but I am not in front of a Debian machine right now. /var/apt? 3) is there a way to just upgrade the local apps instead of all local/kernel/base at the same time? if so what is the apt-get argument? Not specifically. If you want to have certain applications at different version levels you can do this through the apt preferences file (man apt_preferences). In there you can set things in such a way as: everything is -stable except KDE* which is -testing except apache is fixed to 1.3.27 this will allow you to run most/all of your system under the -stable branch with the option that everything KDE goes to the -testing branch for updates. And apache is fixed to version 1.3.27 exactly. A neat side effect of this is once you find a KDE version that is stable and recent (assume something in -testing) you can fix your Debian system to follow that version so that when it is moved into -stable, you stick with it. Similary, and more often the case, you can find something that works in -unstable and lock in on that version until it's replaced by something higher in -testing. 4) what do we do if we need to synchronize the package information manually, say for some reason apt-get fails to include version information on newly installed package; it's still using the old version although the package has been overwritten by the latest version? Never had this happen myself so I can't help you there. how do debian define non-base apps? in the bsds, non-base apps which is called local apps are those not part of the vendor-approved base distribution. for example, apache13 is part of openbsd 3.4 base system while apache2 isn't so if were i to deploy apache2, it would be defined as local apps and be place in /usr/local. apache13, as opposed, is placed in /usr. getting back to debian, say for an application that is not part of debian base distribution, how do we go about getting apt-get to upgrade them, or does debian does not segregate the definitions of base/local apps? any program, (say postfix) that is installed regardless whether it's in the debian-cd or some other sites are always be defined as base apps or just apps, am i right? A couple different options. You can build your own deb package for apache2 or apache may have available dummy packages which means it claims to satisfy the dependency without doing anything at all. Kind of like a null function. HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian is 10
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html What I late in finding this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dangling symlink in man-db
How do I clean this up? /etc/cron.daily/man-db: mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man3/Judy.3x.bz2 is a dangling symlink mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man3/judy.3x.bz2 is a dangling symlink mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man3/Judy1.3x.bz2 is a dangling symlink mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man3/judy1.3x.bz2 is a dangling symlink mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man3/J1T.3x.bz2 is a dangling symlink mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man3/J1S.3x.bz2 is a dangling symlink mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man3/J1U.3x.bz2 is a dangling symlink -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How stable is SiD ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 03:27:47PM +0200, Joris Lambrecht wrote: Can anyone advise on starting to use SiD as resource for my Debian Workstation ? Doesn't it have to many issues left open, broken dependencies etc. If you have to ask, sid is not stable enough for you. That's about right. For a workstation I tend to keep everything defaulting to -testing and only install -unstable packages on an as needed/wanted basis. For example, I tend to keep mpeg players very up to date from -unstable because every week there is a new codec out. But I keep the bigger stuff (XFree, OpenOffice, Mozilla) in -testing because I really don't want to have to deal with them being broken. Considering that my wife is reluctantly using Linux for college, I can't afford any bad press. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Why is C so popular?
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:58:01PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:53:26 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, though, OO languages, being born of academia, were designed *not* to be quick-'n-dirty languages. They were designed with large projects in mind (the whole Software Design Life Cycle bit). SDLC! What a joke! I've never seen a large project managed in any Corporation that didn't utterly suck. The notion that software development is more Organic is closer to the truth. Even with the best planning, you typically will run software development along the path of: Design it Build it Deploy it Rewrite from scratch and have something that works. Modify from there as needed to evolve with the understanding of and needs of the applications 'itch'. That's an evolutionary process. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VIA CPU's
Ron, you disappoint me :-( Clearly he is referring to the force exerted in raising the fan from zero potential energy (the ground) to a state of higher potential energy (perhaps his desk). Obviously, that is what it cost :-) The 8 pound cooler is better becuase it cost less to move it to higher potential energy. -Roberto Oh Good Lord!!! And all I wanted to know is if these make decent web servers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Why is C so popular?
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:35:25 +0200
Francois Bottin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Compare it with SUN's recomendations for Java (but useable also for C):
if (cond) {
block;
} else {
block;
}
In this case I find it much better than the GNU Coding Standards, and
there
is only one line more than Python...
What are the GNU Coding Standards???
Never heard of them
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Re: Need feedback concerning PVR/DVR, Home threatre setup!
Dear: Fellow Debian users; I was thinking about using a micro-atx case and board probably using an AMD chip, then getting the supported hardware for the pvr. I was thinking about going the VIA mini-itx way but the cases are almost as expensive as the motherboard chip combo. I also would like to have it crunch RC5-72 in its spare time. Since I know that Mythtv.org has a dedicated following of Debian developers, that is one reason I thought to ask here. Also as you all know Debian will be the Gnu/linux of choice. You can get micro-itx systems for $200 from idot.com, complete. I don't know how they related to PVR applications. I have most of the hardware on site, and could put a midtower case and a WiFi card next to the TV but my wife wouldn't want a beige case sitting next to the TV, also WiFI will be slow to move files on the network. But once again the wife does not like cables, or anything extra by the TV that looks out of place. You can get basic black cases easily enough and it may not look any more out of place than having a DVD recorder next to a VCR. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want separate MUA/MTA/MDA
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003, Andrew McGuinness wrote: I don't think it's worth anyone's while to learn to use sendmail in this age. There is one good reason for choosing sendmail as an MTA, and that's that you already know it. Sendmail is the default of several distributions and operating systems, such as Redhat and OpenBSD, last time I checked. Since it is still widely used, perhaps its worth learning. ~ Jesse Meyer Windows is still widely used too... I would encourage postfix or qmail over sendmail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What this error mean?
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:21:58 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case it was shitty EIDE code in the kernel screwing up my VIA chipset (I think that's the name) (which is also shitty or even shittier I find out) and causing massive problems with data corruptions and really poor performance (7MB/s with a tail wind). downgrade the kernel to 2.4.18 or lower and this problem may go away. Alternatively, at least in theory, upgrade to 2.6.0-testX. But the entire 2.4.2x series has been horribly problematic for these motherboards and has been a real dissappointment. Kernel 2.4.21 with a VIA VT8366: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/hda Password: /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 268 MB in 2.02 seconds = 132.67 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 100 MB in 3.02 seconds = 33.11 MB/sec [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ It's a little low right now, I've gotten close to 200 buffer-cache and 45 buffered disk (I have a lot of disk activity right now) hdparm was not used to tweak the drive. My .config: CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=y -- -johann koenig This is not a debian kernel is it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing LVM
It does. Either you choose lvm10 and enable lvm-support in your 2.4.18 kernel or you choose lvm20 and enable device-mapper support in your 2.4.21 (probably patched) kernel. In order to get you lvm-stuff to work fast - use lvm10 and your 2.4.18 kernel. Thanks. Any ideas on how well lvm10 will migrate to lvm2 when it comes of age? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Harassment
S`econd-of-all, MORE people here agree with me than disagree with me. They simply don't post their opinions on the list for fear of being attacked by the pro-spam faction here. So they mail me instead. That's fine. Alan You're delusional. Pro-Spam Faction? WTF? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good Debian-based distro
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:09:45 +0100 Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Mon, Aug 11, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is there a buzzword to reference? Yes. Portability. The same Debian Installer runs on 11 different architectures. Knoppix doesn't. If a decision was made to break the installer on platforms such as hppa and sparc in favour of superduper hardware detection on x86, I for one would be breaking out the torches and pitchforks. Why can't the installer ask what the CPU is and if it's an x86 then use kudzu and if it isn't don't? Wouldn't that work on all platforms? Or can't an x86 CPU be reliably detected? It might work. But it blows off the ideology of consistency. The best you (should) strive for is a manual intervention to use kudzu in lieu of the other available tools. Kind of like using bastille for security. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how NOT to work with debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Also sprach Richard Lyons (Mon 11 Aug 02003 at 09:35:00AM +0200): On Monday 11 August 2003 5:06 am, Michael D. Schleif wrote: [...kde dead after upgrade...] Try this: http://www.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8selm=gxXP.6fz.7%4 0gated-at.bofh.it We-ell. That looks horrible. 31 or 32 packages to remove by name (and the names of several are truncated by the display from dpkg -l so I don't even know them all). But dpkg --configure kdebase leads to dependency hell. And those instructions are for woody, where mine is (or rather was) testing/unstable courtesy of Knoppix. So would it work for me? All I know is that I looked high and low for a way to completely remove everything kde, and could not find it. I came up with this brute force method, and it worked for me. Bottomline, as good as apt/dpkg is, remove is *not* the same as purge, and -- even then -- some things remain, and interfere with the reinstall. I strongly urge you to remove everything kde, and start over -- clean. For those incomplete dpkg -l entries, you can do a creative apt-cache search, and figure it out . . . Obviously, this is a very last resort . . . Hitting the right package should do it. IIRC kde is based on two things: kdc-core and the Qt library. apt-get remove --purge kde-core apt-get remove --purge libQT (or whatever it's called) and that should prompt for the removal of a lot of other files. Admittedly, removing the Qt library may potentially remove more than just KDE but it should at least remove everything that is KDE. If you watch what you are removing, you can always put some of them back in if you need them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What this error mean?
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:49:31 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not a debian kernel is it? All kernels are debian kernels. apt-cache show kernel-package kernel-image versus kernel-source. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look at
Hallo! * Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guess what address is only used on the newsgroups. So use a 'Reply-To:' with your 'used and read' email address. Spammers usually get only the 'XOver', which only has the From: in it, so they won't see your Reply-To: Email. You're kidding right? Everything that is a mail format: (approximately) /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ is harvested from email and used for spam address. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATTN: Alan Conner
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alan, please figure out why your mail reader is not including a References or In-Followup-To header and fix it. You're making the list harder to follow. I think that's already been determined. He's using a broken mail2news gateway to receive messages and responding to them by mail. The mail2news gateway loses (or rewrites, unsure) those headers. He doesn't seem amenable to using a non-broken gateway. Can't do much about that, can you? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good Debian-based distro
Hi, You may want to have a look at knoppix, they have a live CD so that folks can experiment with it. It can then bee installed to HD if folks wish to do so. Best of all it's Debian based... I have had a look at it and was impressed by it. cheers I found the hardware detection excellent! IMHO this is one area that Debian needs some work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good Debian-based distro
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Because Debian is available for nearly ever hardware out there. http://www.debian.org/ports Redhat supports significantly less platforms. http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/platform/linux/redhat.com/dist/linux/9/en/os/ shows only i386. They can afford to tailor their installer for just that one architecture. That is a summary of the thread about why Knoppix has better detection. They also focus on i386. -- Excellent point! If we assume that I'm narrowly focused on i386 architecture only. How do you utilize Kudzu in Debian for configuring new installs? Admittedly it isn't consistent with the ideology of Debian having a wide range of support for hardware and a consistent interface for installation, but the reality is that I have a number of installations to get done in a big fat hurry and could really benefit... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What this error mean?
What this error mean?
* hdc: dma_intr: status = 0x51 {driveready seekcomplete
error} hdc: dma_intr : error = 0x84 {drive statuserror
badcrc}
I've been staring at this error for months now and it sucks.
It may be a flakey drive.
It may be a dirtly CD-ROM.
In my case it was shitty EIDE code in the kernel screwing up my VIA
chipset (I think that's the name) (which is also shitty or even shittier I
find out) and causing massive problems with data corruptions and really
poor performance (7MB/s with a tail wind).
downgrade the kernel to 2.4.18 or lower and this problem may go away.
Alternatively, at least in theory, upgrade to 2.6.0-testX.
But the entire 2.4.2x series has been horribly problematic for these
motherboards and has been a real dissappointment.
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Re: Good Debian-based distro
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:35:18AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You may want to have a look at knoppix, they have a live CD so that folks can experiment with it. It can then bee installed to HD if folks wish to do so. Best of all it's Debian based... I have had a look at it and was impressed by it. cheers I found the hardware detection excellent! IMHO this is one area that Debian needs some work. Search the archives and find out _why_ Knoppix has better hardware detection. This has been a large thread a few months ago. David A quickie search shows that Knoppix uses Kudzu which is originally supplied by RedHat and is now available as a Debian package. So... If Knoppix has better hardware detection than base Debian And Knoppix uses Kudzu And Kudzu is available as a Debian package Then why don't we (Debian) use Kudzu as an installation tool? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good Debian-based distro
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:35:18AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You may want to have a look at knoppix, they have a live CD so that folks can experiment with it. It can then bee installed to HD if folks wish to do so. Best of all it's Debian based... I have had a look at it and was impressed by it. cheers I found the hardware detection excellent! IMHO this is one area that Debian needs some work. Search the archives and find out _why_ Knoppix has better hardware detection. This has been a large thread a few months ago. David Is there a buzzword to reference? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good Debian-based distro
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:30:49 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Because Debian is available for nearly ever hardware out there. http://www.debian.org/ports Redhat supports significantly less platforms. http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/platform/linux/redhat.com/dist/linux/9/en/os/ shows only i386. They can afford to tailor their installer for just that one architecture. That is a summary of the thread about why Knoppix has better detection. They also focus on i386. Excellent point! If we assume that I'm narrowly focused on i386 architecture only. How do you utilize Kudzu in Debian for configuring new installs? I'm not sure, I've always preferred to have a basic knowledge of my hardware and set everything myself. If a new installer comes out, I'll probably be the only one using the old woody disks and dist-upgrading. I've actually come to like the current installer. I don't mind it except for configuring X. I haven't really tried other hardware, though I have a ton weird stuff available: floppy based tape drive parallel port zip disk various printers usb cameras from 1990's I even have a Macintosh SCSI-1 hard drive case that, in theory, should hook up to to an existing Linux box as an external SCSI device. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hot boxes and power consumption
This weekend I finally carpeted my office and decided that it would be really need to move all 4 computers into that one room (11' x 8'). It's now a good 10 degrees warmer than the rest of the house. I think I'll be moving most of them back out of that room. But it brought me to another question. Even though I have power supplies that add up to 1400 watts I know that isn't really the case because the fuses haven't blown. Does anyone have any information or methods which might determine what a typical computers power consumption might be? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful
Earlier, someone said that I was wrong because so many people disagreed with me. That's a foolish statement, and I should have called him on it at the time. Facts are facts, and the fact is that traditional spam-blocking strategies don't work, and CR programs do. Interesting comment. I worked on my own Challenge Response process for a year and guess what? It doesn't work. Here's why: Many people who would respond did not have a In-Reference-To tagline in their HEADER --or-- they managed to delete any referenced keys in the subject/body. They were never actually confirmed. Now you have blacklisted valid customers and are loosing business. Many spammers are using bots to auto-reply to these CR's with perfect HEADER/BODY contructs, allowing them to instantly access your address and you get spammed without failure or hesistations. Even BOUNCE messages are not consistent enough between servers to be able to use that information as a means of managing these access lists. In the end I decided to knock off all the challenge-response precesses and set up a more reasonable process: Make all the RFC rules apply. Impliment reverse DNS lookup. SIMPLE RBL's work. The more aggresive one's are for shit. spamassassin is your friend. bogofilter rocks. Out of 150 spams per day, 3 get accepted by the email server and only 1 every month actually ends up someplace other than my spam-file. Under the CR process, my statistics were worse than this and I was knocking out valid accounts in the process. My RFC rules do manage to clobber a few mail valid servers, but they are typically open to correction and are now accessable. Challenge Response is not a valid option in the long run. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look at
I've been catching up on my email for the past few weeks and found this rather horrible thread. My sincerest apologies for all of my earlier posts. I had no idea what a fluster-cluck this had become. However, the issue of blocking spam does seem to get people excited, even to the point of religious furvor, when they think they may be able to come up with the ultimate solution. Rather than debate the zealots, I thought it would be potentially useful to identify things that do work. First, I use postfix exclusively because of it's configurability and capacity to handle a lot of mail and extensions easily. Postfix has some wonderful UCE controls that are largely based on a need to have a correctly formed header. Postfix v2 has a wonderful feature of doing a reverse SMTP session back to the sender to validate the email address. This is somewhat slow, but highly effective. However, I do not yet enable this feature. I typically use the UCE controls and spam filters (spamassassin, bogofilter). I outright delete mail that scores 15 from the spamassassin default scoring configuration. Everything over 5.0 get's filtered into a seperate mailbox (spam). Everything else get's delivered to procmail. Out of all that: I get 6 spams per day delivered to my spam folder. I get 1 spam per month delivered to procmail. I get 150 attempts to deliver every day per account. From this, the UCE controls do the lions share of the work. This isn't hard to imagine since much of the spam is spoofed addresses anyways. Correctly configuring your mail server can go a long ways to reducing the spam that you recieve. I should note that there are a number of emails that are bounced as undeliverable from real people because of my UCE controls being so strict. Generally these are few and can easily be corrected by adding their address to the postfix access.db file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Activating ACPI supend and ACPI Hibernate in klaptop
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 11:19 pm, Mark Roach wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 23:43, Marino Fernandez wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2003 4:05 pm, Mark Roach wrote: [snip] My laptop only gives: $ cat /proc/acpi/sleep S0 S3 S4 S5 so no acpi sleep for me. If you have a similar situation, try swsusp Thank you Mark I have the same as you do in /proc/acpi/sleep How do you do or try swsusp... how do you suspend the machine?. I don't personally, I tried it once, didn't work easily, so I just leave the thing running :-) Getting versions of acpi and swsusp for the same kernel, modifying osl.c to import my modified dsdt, etc. I am lazy. If you are more ambitious than I, look at swsusp.sf.net or just do like I do and wait for the 2.6 series kernels to be released with all the hard stuff done for you... well, most of the hard stuff anyway I am running 2.6.0-test2 (with all the acpi stuff compiled into the kernel), that is the reason I am perplexed, I though I had everything set, but apparently klaptop needs some command to suspend or hibernate my laptop. I have a related question that came about as the result of a brief exploration into SuSE 8.2 on my notebook. Suse 8.2 only has ACPI support and nothing for APM. Prior to this I had a reasonably working APM configuration on my Debian installation. Reasonably, but not perfect, my PCMCIA NIC was a problem because it refused to suspend. However, what I have since discovered is that my notebook, while claiming support for ACPI, doesn't actually do anything when I press various buttons which used to work under APM for suspend, sleep, hibernate (I know this won't work right now because I removed my FAT partition). I'm trying to figure out what I need to do in order to have ACPI power management support on this notebook (hopefully it will allow more functionality than APM). It seems that the buttons were only recognized under APM. Is this a BIOS setting? Is there anything I can do to get these working on the newer power management schemes? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla 1.3.1 java plugin
Get the version of the Java plugin from Blackdown that's compiled with gcc 3.2. Where? I couldn't find it. That or I think I already installed it and the 'update-alternatives --auto java' didn't do anything helpful -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla 1.3.1 java plugin
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 05:15:32PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: I have a javaplugin_oji.so in whatever directory I'm supposed to have it in according to the mozilla dev website. Nothing works. I get that stupid busted puzzle piece. This was an upgrade to an existing mozilla installation that had a working java plug-in. Have you installed the correct version of java? Copies of java that were compiled with gcc-2.95 don't work with copies of mozilla that were compiled with gcc-3.2. Actually, I don't know. I was in dselect and it didn't have any success in finding a package that related directly to the JRE that was isntalled. I thought that Debian could install Blackdown JRE as a .deb. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installation with LVM
Is there anyway that we can install Debian with LVM on the partitions during the installation, rather than doing it after the fact? It's impractical to install and then try to convert everything to an LVM system. Any suggestions? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ugly font syndrome?
A while ago, I did an update on my system (testing/unstable) and many of my fonts went from acceptable to ugly. I do not remember what package upgrade caused the change. I got a note from the maintainer dude on this one, but I'm not sure I can find it again. He suspects he flipped the order of directories for the font paths. This brings in the Ugly first. But it won't get fixed until 4.3.x is out. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DC-220 Camera
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 06:58:55PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: I had this camera working under USB with the application called 'ks'. But that was on another hard drive Another machine, you mean? Another Debian Installation on another machine. I'm trying to get this working under gtkam or gphoto2. In both cases it is unable to detect the device. But syslog shows the device is registered under /dev/usb/dc22x, which is where is used to be under 'ks'. Is it possible the USB support is a module and you have no autoloader support? Do you mean the _camera_ is not detected as a device? If so, it likely is not on gphoto2's list of automatically detected cameras (I had to specify my Olympus 450Z). syslog shows it as detected. the gphoto2 library detects it but can't initialize it. Root doesn't help matters, so it's not a right issue. ??? Do you mean permissions? Yes, it was early and my coffee was still being administered. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remote printer configuration - cups
On Thu, 03 Apr 2003 06:06:05 -0500 Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I started to try this approach and died here: | | Setting up cupsys (1.1.15-4) ... | Starting CUPSys: cupsd. I have what is supposed to be a network printer with support for JetDirect, Cups and LPD. Unfortunately, it isn't exactly a cups server. So I guess in order to get my network printer working, I need yet another server I guess the whole point was to set up a printer that didn't require another server. After all, it's got it's own hard drive and a 233MHz CPU. You do have a server, and it's running. You just haven't told it about any printers. You do that either with the web browser interface I suggested or on the command line with lpadmin. Only one machine on the printer's network needs to run a CUPS server. The other machines can send their jobs to the server to be printed. Your printer has a hard drive? I guess I'm missing something then Under Windblows, all they do is point and print the stupid jobs. Under Linux, I can't seem to be able to do the same. Pointing to a 'raw' print mode doesn't seem to cut it. Pointing to a port in (515, 610, 9100) also doesn't seem to cut it. I think that the best I've achieved so far is with PDQ under 'raw' mode using the bsd-lpp interface. With this I think I get stair-casing. But I didn't expect this under a Postscript Printer using Postscript Drivers. The dump job takes .ps files and filters them again through postscript (a2ps). I'm vague as heck on all of this because my printer is actually located some 1,500 miles away and I'm trying to do all of this through ssh. when I print something, I wait for an email from the (patient) end user to tell me if he found anything and what it looked like. What kills me is right now I take a PostScript file with a first line like %! Postscript 2 (or whatever it's supposed to look like) and do 'pdq foo.ps' and the output from that comes in with that exact line three lines down and the first line being %!. Non-postscript files don't end up like this. But I'm unclear if they print at all. I do not believe that they do. so, I was thinking of trying CUPS but that initially didn't get me any further along. It was also a little unnerving that I have to run a cups server to talk to a network printer that (in theory) supports cups to begin with. The problem here is that this really intelligent printer doesn't seem capable of acting as it's own server under both Windows and Linux. Oh well, that's another problem. I'm still trying to print foo.ps! To answer your question, I really don't know for sure if it has a hard drive, but it does seem to support telnet, ftp, http, cups, lpd, and jetdirect. Which is more than some computers can do. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone use PDQ?
I was trying to set up a Kyocera FS-1900N network printer and their docs say to use PDQ. I'm wondering about this because I've never been able to get anything to work with PDQ and the port 9100 even though I have been reading this stuff for three days now. And the email address on the pdq home page is no longer in use. does anyone use or maintain PDQ anymore? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pcmcia + apm = no suspend
* Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-02-18 12:29]: But it doesn't seem to work as well as it should. my IBM laptop goes to sleep if either the power plug or the network card are removed. If both are connected, it doesn't suspend. oh... I'll have to try that. Maybe I need to re-examine my BIOS settings. I would like to be able to suspend it regardless of the power (AC/DC). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DNS + DHCP
Quoting Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How do these two play nice together? Do you still need the perl script to do it or have they configured a way to talk directly (DHCP3, BIND9)? I know at one point that there was a perl script that did a nice job going between the two. But I thought that with the newer versions of bind and dhcpd that it was no longer required. How best to put these two together then? They work okay together using Dynamic DNS (not things like dyndns.org, same name, different process). You can use TSIG (IIRC) to securely authenticate updates. Jeffrey This is the SSL layer to DNS? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Migrate from RedHat to Debian
Hi List, How long are Debian-releases supported (okay, with 'open' software you can compile/write your own upgrades but that's not an option)? http://www.debian.org/releases/ Debian only has one version, stable... sort of... Think of Debian as one version that is periodically rolling from unstable-testing-stable stable comes less than once a year from my limited experience. But I think you can still get packages from some very old releases. But I do not know if they are actually maintained for security updates and such (I suspect not). I know they use an equivalent system to the rpm-system. How long are releases supported through these deb-packages. And before some-one states the obvious...yes I do install the kernel and the 'main' daemons from source (like Apache, Postfix, Squid, DJBDNS, Iptables,Snort) but I prefer to upgrade 'minor' things trough the concept of packages from the distro. You can, but you can also install Apache, Postfix, Squid from packages supplied as Debian .deb files (similar to .rpm). There is an option to install packages precompiled or from source files (as a .deb package). If you insist on the very bleeding edge versions all the time, you probably won't find them in the stable version of deb-src files. What are the experiences other people have with migrating from RedHat to Debian. Are there any other options as a distro (I'm looking for a distro with security written in bold)? I've found Debian to be pretty darn good for security. Now, about my own experiences overall. I came from Slackware... But Debian does things differently than many of the others. The Debian Policy dictates that files be in certain places and be called certain things. Not everyone who makes code agrees with these policies, but once you familiarize yourself with these Debian-specific features/peculiarities you will find that getting around and configuring stuff gets pretty second nature. They both use the same format for rc.files (Sys V?) They use very different tools for configuring X, Network and others. RedHat (when I used it back when) does a lot of configurations for you with GUI's. Debian allows a lot more flexibility and it typically command line oriented tools. Very sweet for managing servers through SSH. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: `apt-get update` going 'E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room'
Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it do that only on the stable box w/ only 32 MB RAM, I wouldn't wonder, but it's doing that also on a 256 MB unstable one. The error msg is exactly the same on both: ..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing kscd (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_stable_updates_main_binary-i386_PackagesE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing kscd (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_stable_updates_main_binary-i386_PackagesE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. ..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Any hints? 6 other boxes (stable, testing and unstable ones) are not affected. Search the debian mailing list archives. It's asked about every other day. write this APT::Cache-Limit 1000; into /etc/apt/apt.conf Wouldn't it make sense to make this entry in apt.conf a default installation? Kind of like a WISH_LIST item... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tune2fs ext2 - ext3 do I do it to swap ???
Ive converted my debian from ext2 to ext3 .. no problems. Do I need to do the same to my swap partition, is there any advantage ?? Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm thinking not. ext3 is a journaling system for the purpose of data integrity and reliability in the event of a disk failure or some interruption of service. SWAP is the most temporary partition you can possibly have. /tmp would be the next most temporary partition. In general, I believe that the use of journaling file systems is a degredation of performance compared to a non-journaled system. But I could be very wrong in some cases. I'm not really sure But regarding swap, I don't think it will do anything useful for you... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CD sound
This is one of those, It used to work... problems. I have OSS sound. I have one CD-R and one CDE-RW (scsi emulation blah-blah-blah) I have sound on things like XMMS, Xine. I have no sound in my cdplayer. I can start the disk spinning from wmcdplayer and wmsound shows nothing turned off. But there's nothing coming through. I'm not sure where to even start looking. /dev/cdrom is mapped to the devfs cdrom0 (which is the correct device). aumix also shows the cd-player volume enabled. Like I said, it used to work. I jumped from Stable to Testing is that last thing I can think of doing that was of any significance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
squirrelmail
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Re: broken package: testing: libapache-request-perl
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 10:24:26PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libapache-request-perl: Depends: perlapi-5.6.1 Depends: libapache-mod-perl but it is not going to be installed Before I make this a bug-report, can someone suggest anything? I have perl 5.8.0 (unstable) Should I just install mod-perl from UnStable? Don't try to mix unstable's perl with testing's perl modules right now. Yeah, well I got pulled into a problem trying to get amavisd and cyrus to work. As the result of that effort, I'm spread out from stable to unstable. To keep it simple, I moved to testing and upgraded these package to unstable as well. Eventually, it will sort itself out just fine. I did manage to get the packages working correctly. But there was a minor bug in mod_perl that has been addressed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lightweight window manager - any sugegstions?
I find ion to be kind of cool. thanks all for help. i am currently settling for icewm-lite and trying ratpoison, ion. but i really do not know if the change in speed between windowmaker and either of these is significant. :) And I was just about to suggest WindowMaker. Very fast considering it appearance and function. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mason, step one
Tom, On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 09:22:58PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: OK, I thought I would try Mason tonight. I loaded this into httpd.conf and restarted OK: - PerlModule HTML::Mason::ApacheHandler Location / SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler HTML::Mason::ApacheHandler /Location - I added: % 2+2 % Do you have mod_perl installed? I had not played with apache for a while. mod_perl was a key piece of the problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Kernel
Hello all, I boot debian from a floppy, I have my / partion on /dev/hdb1, Is there anyway to make lilo boot debian from /dev/hdb1? Do I reinstall lilo? Thanks.. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now That's part of it... You need to have the kernel on /dev/hdb1 as well as a System.map and (probably) a few others. What you can do though is to create a /etc/lilo.conf file with two entries, one for your floppy boot and another for you /dev/hdb1 boot. that way, if the /dev/hdb boot fails, you can revert back to the floppy boot. Is the floppy disk just a rescue-type disk or is that were you have the kernel? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache and apache-ssl
I'm somewhat confused about the configuration of apache and apache-ssl. I noticed that by default they both share the same document root, server root, and run under the same system user. I read about the different methods of authentication on the apache site, as well as .htaccess files, but didn't see a way to restrict access of certain pages to a secure connection only. Am I missing something or should I be setting up apache and apache-ssl to have separate document roots, server roots, and system users? apache-ssl doesn't provide access restrictions. It provides encrypted data. You can still access all the web pages under apache-ssl, but no one can sneak in and steal your information (credit cards) from what you POST to the server. If you are looking for access restrictions, then .htaccess is a start. Not having the docs in front of me, I have to venture a guess that there is a different configuration for http and https document roots that you have to set up. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
