Repost: used dd_rescue to image a partition of failing harddrive-unable to mount badpartition.img using -o loop
I am reposting this in hopes that someone has an idea or two what I did wrong thanks tripolar wrote: >Hello >I have a failing harddrive so I did #dd_rhelp /dev/hdc7 >/mnt/hdb1/120part7_rescue.img >I saved that image ( 72G ) on a new hardrive >/mnt/hdb1/120part7_rescue.img I then pulled out the failing harddrive >and replaced it with a new harddrive /mnt/hdc . I have tried to follow >these directions " Then run fsck on the image you have created, mount it >loopback (|mount -o loop /mnt/hdb1/hda1_rescue.img /mnt/hda1 | in my >case) and then browse through it and recover the files you need. " >located at http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/wlg/5205 >First I am unable to run any kind of fsck on the .img . I think the >original parttition was reiserfs. >Then I went on to try "mount -o loop 120part7_rescue.img /mnt/hdc1/" I >get "Unknown error 990" >"mount -o loop -t reiserfs 120part7_rescue.img /mnt/hdc1/" and get this >error >mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0" >Anyone with ideas of what I am doing wrong Please help me out. >Thanks!! > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to mount an image file ( .img ) in a loopback - mount -o loop ?
Sergio Cuéllar Valdés wrote: >2005/7/25, tripolar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >>I backed up a 72Gig partition from a failing harddrive into an image >>file badpart.img >>How can I mount that image file in a loopback ( ? ) device? mount -o loop >>Any help would be appreciated >> >> > >First you could create a mount point, for example: > ># mkdir /media/images > >or you could use too /media/floppy or /media/cdrom, but it is better >to have different mountpoints. Next: > ># mount -o ro,loop,nodev,noexec,noatime /path/to/file.img /media/images > >You could use other options with -o, check the man of mount : ) > >Cheers, >Sergio > > > Thanks I still havent been able to mount it. again I get an "error 990" I posted a detailed message on Saturday about my problem. I will repost it and hopefully with more details someone can help me out. Thanks again -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to mount an image file ( .img ) in a loopback - mount -o loop ?
I backed up a 72Gig partition from a failing harddrive into an image file badpart.img How can I mount that image file in a loopback ( ? ) device? mount -o loop Any help would be appreciated -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
used dd_rescue to image a partition of failing harddrive-unable to mount badpartition.img using -o loop
Hello I have a failing harddrive so I did #dd_rhelp /dev/hdc7 /mnt/hdb1/120part7_rescue.img I saved that image ( 72G ) on a new hardrive /mnt/hdb1/120part7_rescue.img I then pulled out the failing harddrive and replaced it with a new harddrive /mnt/hdc . I have tried to follow these directions " Then run fsck on the image you have created, mount it loopback (|mount -o loop /mnt/hdb1/hda1_rescue.img /mnt/hda1 | in my case) and then browse through it and recover the files you need. " located at http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/wlg/5205 First I am unable to run any kind of fsck on the .img . I think the original parttition was reiserfs. Then I went on to try "mount -o loop 120part7_rescue.img /mnt/hdc1/" I get "Unknown error 990" "mount -o loop -t reiserfs 120part7_rescue.img /mnt/hdc1/" and get this error mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0" Anyone with ideas of what I am doing wrong Please help me out. Thanks!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to recover data even when unable to mount?
It appears my 120G harddrive is near-death. Being unable to boot I used a knoppix cd to run smartd and /sbin/badblocks. my hard drive 3 partitions I wish to make backups of. After googling I have found several options- one being dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb conv=noerror,sync I have a new 160G hard drive. Here is my plan install new hard drive ( I already have partioned with fdisk & used mkfs.reiserfs ), put near-dead hd into machine then boot into knoppix live cd. Use dd if=/dev/hda etc I have no clue how much life is left in the old one and I dont want to make it work any harder than just getting files copied to new disk. Are there any arguements to boot knoppix with to prevent old disk from spinning up until need be? dd_rescue is also on this knoppix cd. Is that a better option than dd if=.etc? Before I pulled the old hd out I was unable to mount 2 partitions Input/output errors. Anyway to force a ro mount on a corrupted filesystem? Do I need to mount those partitions to do a dd if= ? The reason I ask here is because I feel it may already be too late for much of the data and that I have very limited time to save the data. Hoping I can get the most efficient & best options from this group. Any tips would be appreciated. thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ok, here goes nothing...
One more link that was helpful to me http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-create-floppy Cecil wrote: Ok, I got my toshiba libretto. No cdrom. What do I need to do to be able to install this thing? I am guessing I could wipe the system and just install dos. But I'd like to install the needed files on my 32 meg usb thumb drive and copy the files over to the win 98 partition and install from there. what files do i need to install to my hard drive that would just let me get a boot linux floppy, boot linux, and point it at the hard drive and do a net install? I have done a lot of reading on this today, and I have not found a good simple document that doesn't pre-suppose u have a cdrom or a ton of linux experience. Please, someone help! Cecil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ok, here goes nothing...
Hi Cecil, A few months back I installed Debian on a Toshiba Satellite laptop with a trashed dvd-rom. I used floppies from here- http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/ I actually chose the bf2.4 floppies and all went well with network install. I changed the apt sources.list to unstable right after minimal install. Sorry I havent any experience installing with a USB thumbdrive. Maybe someone else has more info to offer. Good Luck Cecil wrote: Ok, I got my toshiba libretto. No cdrom. What do I need to do to be able to install this thing? I am guessing I could wipe the system and just install dos. But I'd like to install the needed files on my 32 meg usb thumb drive and copy the files over to the win 98 partition and install from there. what files do i need to install to my hard drive that would just let me get a boot linux floppy, boot linux, and point it at the hard drive and do a net install? I have done a lot of reading on this today, and I have not found a good simple document that doesn't pre-suppose u have a cdrom or a ton of linux experience. Please, someone help! Cecil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Questions about /etc/profile ulimit -Hn and /etc/initscript & /etc/security/limits
When running java w/ another program I get this error message- java.io.IOException: Too many open files I was told 1) change /etc/profile to add ulimit -Hn 65536 2)create /etc/initscript as described in man initscript, including ulimit -Hn 65536 Someone else mentioned /etc/security/limits. Now I have looked at /etc/profile which is gibberish for someone like me who knows nothing about shell scripts. I wonder do I just add the line "ulimit -Hn 65536" anywhere in that file?? Next question- I have read man initscript and wonder do I take that sample file- change the ulimit -Hn to 65536 and save. This particular line- "Experimenting with this can make your system un(re)bootable." has be quite worried. In /etc/security/limits everything is commented out without any reference to ulimits. Yes I have googled without luck- specifically Debian way of doing this. Here is /etc/profile- "# /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for the Bourne shell (sh(1)) # and Bourne compatible shells (bash(1), ksh(1), ash(1), ...). PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games" if [ "$PS1" ]; then if [ "$BASH" ]; then PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' else if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then PS1='# ' else PS1='$ ' fi fi fi ulimit -Hn 65536 export PATH #export CLASSPATH=.:/usr/local/j2re1.4.2_04/lib:/usr/local/j2re1.4.2_04/lib #export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/j2re1.4.2_04 #export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/j2re1.4.2_04/bin umask 022" You can see I added "ulimit -Hn 65536". I havent rebooted yet out of fear *grimace* Considering the path to java is below /usr/lib/j2re1.4-sun/bin/java and the path to the other program is /home/user/program/program.sh Do I need to be specific about java or user in /etc/profile? Lastly do I need to set something in /etc/security/limits? Thanks After banging my head on this problem I have a headache and need aspirin. I hope someone will help me out with this ulimit problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6.6 Kernel + Adaptec aic7890/91 = Kernel panic
Ishwar Rattan wrote: Where can I get 2.6.6-debian kernel sources or kernel-image deb? -ishwar On Mon, 31 May 2004, Ralph Bergmann wrote: Also try apt-cache search kernel- will give you many options. You might want to check around on apt-cache search to see how to fine tune it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6.6 Kernel + Adaptec aic7890/91 = Kernel panic
Ishwar Rattan wrote: Where can I get 2.6.6-debian kernel sources or kernel-image deb? -ishwar On Mon, 31 May 2004, Ralph Bergmann wrote: In Debian the name of the packages you want to install are kernel-image-2.6.6 . I have an athlon so mine is kernel-image-2.6.6-1-k7 . The lazy way to do it is install synaptic and in the "find" button near the top type in kernel- You will get many options. kernel headers would be something like this kernel-headers-2.6.6-1 . kernel source would be kernel-source-2.6.6 . Hope this helps. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compromised-machine?? netbus- request from my debian-sid machine to outside IP to port 12345
Alvin Oga wrote: hi ya "quadpolar" :-) On Thu, 27 May 2004, tripolar wrote: I dont think so- The only thing I know of is firestarter (firewall). I received some more messages the same except this time ports 1234 ( service subseven) but going to a different outside IP. post your logs (unedited, except for ip# ) you are reading/interpretting - you don't care that 100's of script kiddies are trying to make 1000's of attempts to get into your pc - consider it a free audit of your systems - if they got in ... you've got a serious, but solvable major problem What logs? here are a few lines from "hit" list time:May 27 21:22:29 in: out:eth1 port:12345 source:192.168.1.1 dest:81.53.*.* len:44 tos:0x00 protocol:tcp service:netbus time:May 27 22:10:38 in: out:eth1 port:1234 source:192.168.1.1 dest:63.207.*.* len:40 tos:0x00 protocol:tcp service:subseven what is the output of "netstat -nv" netstat -nv only brought up two addresses- my isps mail servers - you are looking for foreign address on whacky ports that have established connections to your local pc - if you cannot explain any of the those outside machines connected to your pc... you've probably need to get comments from the list "what does this line mean" c ya alvin I had had many ports forwarded from hardware firewall/router (HFR) to debian-sid machine because of certain programs ( which I have since shut down )and then I removed all port forwarding rules from HFR to debian pc. I will just keep an eye out on the hit list. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compromised-machine?? netbus- request from my debian-sid machine to outside IP to port 12345
Alvin Oga wrote: hi ya "quadpolar" :-) On Thu, 27 May 2004, tripolar wrote: I dont think so- The only thing I know of is firestarter (firewall). I received some more messages the same except this time ports 1234 ( service subseven) but going to a different outside IP. post your logs (unedited, except for ip# ) you are reading/interpretting - you don't care that 100's of script kiddies are trying to make 1000's of attempts to get into your pc - consider it a free audit of your systems - if they got in ... you've got a serious, but solvable major problem What logs? here are a few lines from "hit" list time:May 27 21:22:29 in: out:eth1 port:12345 source:192.168.1.1 dest:81.53.*.* len:44 tos:0x00 protocol:tcp service:netbus time:May 27 22:10:38 in: out:eth1 port:1234 source:192.168.1.1 dest:63.207.*.* len:40 tos:0x00 protocol:tcp service:subseven what is the output of "netstat -nv" netstat -nv only brought up two addresses- my isps mail servers:995 - you are looking for foreign address on whacky ports that have established connections to your local pc - if you cannot explain any of the those outside machines connected to your pc... you've probably need to get comments from the list "what does this line mean" c ya alvin I had had many ports forwarded from hardware firewall/router (HFR) to debian-sid machine because of certain programs ( which I have since shut down )and then I removed all port forwarding rules from HFR to debian pc. I will just keep an eye out on the hit list. Thanks - This didnt go through to the list the first time so here goes again. Also since then I slowly opened 1 port at a time after starting 1 of the programs. I see the requests leaving my machine again so I have tracked down the culprit. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: bad thing Re: Compromised-machine?? netbus-
Alvin Oga wrote:
hi ya tripolar
On Thu, 27 May 2004, tripolar wrote:
What logs?
/var/log/{messages,syslog,debug,warn}
here are a few lines from "hit" list
time:May 27 21:22:29 in: out:eth1 port:12345 source:192.168.1.1
dest:81.53.*.* len:44 tos:0x00 protocol:tcp service:netbus
time:May 27 22:10:38 in: out:eth1 port:1234 source:192.168.1.1
dest:63.207.*.* len:40 tos:0x00 protocol:tcp service:subseven
it says subseven is running on your 192.168.1.1 box ... or something
that uses that default service name
if 192.168.1.1 is a windoze box ... it's been hacked/trojaned
if 192.168.1.1 is a deb box... why is subseven or equivalent running on it
- how did it get there
- how do you update your deb boxes ...
( if it is a deb box... time to rebuild or find somebody
( locally to figure out what is broken on your box
"google: subseven" and the first 2 links is what you need/want ...
what is the output of "netstat -nv"
netstat -nv only brought up two addresses- my isps mail servers
you have to have the cracker online at the time for netstat to show
who's using the machine ... and/or a lazy script kiddie will stay
on 24x7 ( and get caught )
you have to run netstat say every minute ...
- exclude your own ip# and allowed ports and see who is
left that using yuor box
c ya
alvin
here is part of /var/log/syslog- there are 7 requests from my machine
over several minutes
May 28 00:34:32 fatboy kernel: IN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.1
DST=81.53.*.* LEN=44 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=49686 DF PROTO=TCP
SPT=48961 DPT=12345 WINDOW=5808 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
May 28 00:45:04 fatboy -- MARK --
May 28 00:47:52 fatboy kernel: IN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.1.1
DST=81.168.*.* LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=15482 DF PROTO=TCP
SPT=23190 DPT=1234 WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 ACK RST URGP=0
This is a Debian-Sid machine. My guess is Operator errors :-( Probably
too many to list. Hmmm checking out two websites about subseven and I
only see windoze versions- hmmm maybe I have been using too much "WINE"
and got myself into trouble?? Oh well, I installed this with 2.6 kernel
and have debated whether or not I should have started with 2.4 kernel.
Might be as good a time as any to reinstall :-)
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Re: Compromised-machine?? netbus- request from my debian-sid machine to outside IP to port 12345
Paul Johnson wrote: tripolar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I see hits from my debian machine to 81.53.*.* port 12345 - under service it says "netbus" I dont think I installed netbus. Could my machine be compromised? I doubt it. Are you using PortSentry or some other port monitoring system? I dont think so- The only thing I know of is firestarter (firewall). I received some more messages the same except this time ports 1234 ( service subseven) but going to a different outside IP. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compromised-machine?? netbus- request from my debian-sid machine to outside IP to port 12345
cablemodem>hardware firewall/router>debian-sid machine on LAN running firestarter (GUI firewall program). I see hits from my debian machine to 81.53.*.* port 12345 - under service it says "netbus" I dont think I installed netbus. Could my machine be compromised? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing debian with floppies on laptop
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from tripolar: I need to install debian on a laptop ( no OS installed ) with a bad dvd-rom drive. I would like to get network up to do network install. Laptop is Toshiba satellite 1805-s203. Etherfast 10/100 PC Card Linksys ( PCMPC100 ) That should be supported out of the box by the stock install floppies. Support for it may disappear once you reboot, but recompiling the kernel gets it back. Or, that's what it was like for me a couple of years ago. This may since have changed. Note, you have to say yes to cardbus even if your cards/slots aren't cardbus. This is detailed in /usr/src/linux/documentation... Not sure how to find floppy with drivers for either card?? I believe it uses the "ne" driver. thanks to you and mark for your help I made a rescue, root, and 4 driver floppies. I made it as far as networking which failed before I got blue screen and ended rebooting and starting over. I did a google and it seems I need axnet_cs driver for the linksys pcmcia card. This install I enabled pcmcia support before going to loading modules which is where I am at now. Now the linksys card has lit up the dongle. One question- at what point will it ask me to say Yes to cardbus? thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installing debian with floppies on laptop
I need to install debian on a laptop ( no OS installed ) with a bad dvd-rom drive. I would like to get network up to do network install. Laptop is Toshiba satellite 1805-s203. Etherfast 10/100 PC Card Linksys ( PCMPC100 ) Orinoco Gold Lucent ( PC24E-H-FC ) wireless Which Floppies should I use? I have looked through the list vanilla, compact, etc Not sure how to find floppy with drivers for either card?? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
shell script question
I would like to download all files from an ftp site. probably 250 files some between 25-50 Megs.I am wondering about using wget with shell ( bash) script to login, download all files, if one is found on harddrive ignore and goto next one. one file at a time to prevent using too much of their bandwidth. >From my questions you can safely assume I have never written a shell script. any suggestions for this issue? plus any links for shell scripting for newbies? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to find new url's for sources.list?
Recently when doing apt-get update I get failures from deb http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib I chose that mirror when I did the install because it is near. How do I find other sources? Preferably a .edu in wisconsin, minnesota or illinois. I have googled and searched debian.org I must be missing something??? thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Semi-new to linux, couple questions...
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 14:48, Victor Varsanyi wrote: > Hello everyone, > After tying a few distroes i've settled on debian. I have a couple > questions: firstly can anyone recommend a good webcam that has drivers > available for linux? Also I just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.0 and gnome > to 2.2, when playing mp3's in xmms they sound like crap, but if i play > them with totem they sound just fine, any ideas (SiS sound card set up > as an ALSA device, with OSS emulation)? > > Thanks in advance, > > Victor Varsanyi > Hello Victor I use both a 3Com-homeconnect and a Dlink DSB-C100 webcam. The modules listed are vicam, usbvideo, videodev,& usbcore.The module for the DSB C-100 is OV511. Both webcams are discontinued though you should be able to find them on ebay. Sorry I have no information on current webcams. note- I am not running 2.6 Good Luck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Should I upgrade from 2.4.22 to 2.6.0-test11?
I just posted about compiling error with 2.6.0-test11 which got me thinking if 2.4.22 is working well ( not perfect) should I even update to 2.6? Currently almost all USB devices work the exception being a linksys wireless network adaptor. Though because the system picks it up with a vendor & product id I think it is up to me to get it configued correctly ;-) I have an ABIT NF7-M motheboard nforce2 chipset built in nvidia graphics. I havent gotten the nvidia splash screen even though I installed nvidia-kernel stuff with aptitude. Again something else to fix on my end with nvidia drivers- but what??? Does 2.6 even have nvidia drivers? Just wondering aloud -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2
I am compiling linux-2.6.0-test11 kernel (patched with patches from kernel.org) unpacked in /home/user/ cd ~/linux-2.6.0-test11 $make menuconfig $fakeroot make-kpkg clean $fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=.261217 kernel_image at the end of that process I get these errrors drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x48c82): In function `ide_match_hwif': : undefined reference to `ide_hwifs' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x48c87): In function `ide_match_hwif': : undefined reference to `ide_hwifs' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x48cb5): In function `ide_match_hwif': : undefined reference to `ide_hwifs' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x48cd9): In function `ide_match_hwif': : undefined reference to `ide_hwifs' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x48cde): In function `ide_match_hwif': : undefined reference to `ide_hwifs' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x48ce3): more undefined references to `ide_hwifs' follow drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x495fa): In function `ide_setup_pci_controller': : undefined reference to `noautodma' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49acb): In function `ide_setup_pci_device': : undefined reference to `ide_hwifs' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49ad3): In function `ide_setup_pci_device': : undefined reference to `probe_hwif_init' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49af0): In function `ide_setup_pci_device': : undefined reference to `ide_hwifs' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49af8): In function `ide_setup_pci_device': : undefined reference to `probe_hwif_init' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49b80): In function `ide_setup_pci_devices': : undefined reference to `ide_hwifs' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49b88): In function `ide_setup_pci_devices': : undefined reference to `probe_hwif_init' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49ba5): In function `ide_setup_pci_devices': : undefined reference to `ide_hwifs' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49bad): In function `ide_setup_pci_devices': : undefined reference to `probe_hwif_init' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49bcc): In function `ide_setup_pci_devices': : undefined reference to `ide_hwifs' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49bd4): In function `ide_setup_pci_devices': : undefined reference to `probe_hwif_init' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49bf3): In function `ide_setup_pci_devices': : undefined reference to `ide_hwifs' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x49bfb): In function `ide_setup_pci_devices': : undefined reference to `probe_hwif_init' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x4a3ae): In function `__ide_dma_off_quietly': : undefined reference to `ide_toggle_bounce' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x4a4be): In function `__ide_dma_on': : undefined reference to `ide_toggle_bounce' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x4a660): In function `__ide_dma_read': : undefined reference to `ide_execute_command' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x4a740): In function `__ide_dma_write': : undefined reference to `ide_execute_command' drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x4aa11): In function `__ide_dma_verbose': : undefined reference to `eighty_ninty_three' make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/user/linux-2.6.0-test11' make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 Any ideas? Did a google though havent found any answers. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
after compiling,rebooting, fsck fails
After compiling kernel, updated grub,then rebooted getting the following error ooops dont have it verbatim something about fsck failed /dev/hda6 doesnt exist or invalid use #mount -n -o remount,rw I hit ctrl-d hoping it would continue to boot but no such luck, rebooted this time booted into old kernel Any idea why after compiling kernel it would say fsck failed and /dev/hda6 doesnt exist or invalid? by the way, started from scratch didnt use old .config file thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do I use 2.4.22 or nvidia-kernel-common?Re: was "Kernel-HOWTO has been removed for review"
It seems I have install nvidia-kernel-common but I must have not configured it because I dont have a nvidia splash screen. It appears I am running 2.4.22-1-k7. Do I recompile 2.4.22-1-k7 to get usb devices working (usb webcam, usb storage, usb phone, & usb wireless network adaptor)? What do I do to get Nvidia stuff working? I hava an ABIT NF7-M board with nForce-2 chipsets. Thanks On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 18:18, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 at 00:07 GMT, tripolar penned: > > I am familiar with compiling kernel #make menuconfig #make dep && make > > clean && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install > > I snag the debian version of the kernel and then do the above. > > > > > does this process work for debian? I usually download kernel from > > kernel.org but I will use apt-get install new kernel if I am confident > > that I wont break anything :-) Please direct me to clean documention > > on how to compile kernel debian way Thanks > > > > I can't help you learn the debian way, but I can tell you that the "old" > way works with the debian versions of the kernel. > > -- > monique > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel-HOWTO has been removed for review(should be able to solve now)
Was given another link. even better :-) http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 18:07, tripolar wrote: > I am familiar with compiling kernel > #make menuconfig > #make dep && make clean && make bzImage && make modules && make > modules_install > > does this process work for debian? I usually download kernel from > kernel.org but I will use apt-get install new kernel if I am confident > that I wont break anything :-) > Please direct me to clean documention on how to compile kernel debian > way > Thanks > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel-HOWTO has been removed for review
found this link kernel howto especially for debian :-) http://www.e-aiyama.com/~toshi/Computer/Linux/KernelCompile.html On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 18:07, tripolar wrote: > I am familiar with compiling kernel > #make menuconfig > #make dep && make clean && make bzImage && make modules && make > modules_install > > does this process work for debian? I usually download kernel from > kernel.org but I will use apt-get install new kernel if I am confident > that I wont break anything :-) > Please direct me to clean documention on how to compile kernel debian > way > Thanks > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel-HOWTO has been removed for review
I am familiar with compiling kernel #make menuconfig #make dep && make clean && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install does this process work for debian? I usually download kernel from kernel.org but I will use apt-get install new kernel if I am confident that I wont break anything :-) Please direct me to clean documention on how to compile kernel debian way Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound issues-no sound from cd players
Thanks hooked up the cdrom drive to soundcard. now enjoying "Tool" cd :-) In the past( I think) I have listened to cd's without that cable. any idea how that worked? On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 20:53, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 08:48:37PM -0600, tripolar wrote: > > $ playsound english.au > /dev/dsp > > did work then I tried cd players again- both gnome & kde cdplayers. each > > cd player picked up my music cd but played no sound. > > Is your CD player connected to your sound card? Do you have read > access to the CD player device? > > - -- > .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : :' : > `. `'` proud Debian admin and user > `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE/19wUUzgNqloQMwcRAitjAJwJnehfMUw4CuWOfp4PMLBJzqPGAwCgrGMj > 8QGgm3VL9xvG0EdfKGT4K4A= > =kL50 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound issues-no sound from cd players
$ playsound english.au > /dev/dsp did work then I tried cd players again- both gnome & kde cdplayers. each cd player picked up my music cd but played no sound. I then tried to listen to linus again $ playsound english.au > /dev/dsp this time "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" this is what fuser shows # fuser -v /dev/dsp USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/dsp suley 2025 f artsd suley 2080 f artsd ok did #killall artsd now playsound works again what am i missing to get cdplayers to play sound? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing on a GRUB system?
David what installer are you talking about? woody installer? I used the newer sarge one and I didnt notice any option but lilo because sure would have appreciated installing grub instead. Instead will have to install & configure grub after the fact. On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 22:48, David Palmer. wrote: > On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 04:37:09 +0100 > Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:09:59 -0500, > > lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > i'm downloading the debian-installer beta. i intend to install on a > > > > > > spare partition on my GRUB-based system. > > > > > > does debian-installer use GRUB or LILO? > > > > > > if LILO, can i just skip the LILO installation and add an entry to > > > grub.conf instead? > > > > ..you can do both: point lilo to the /boot of your install and boot > > that off grub on the mbr. And you can do apt-get remove --purge lilo > > and setup grub instead. > > > Apparently it's not immediately obvious, but installing Grub instead of > Lilo is available as an option in the installer. > Regards, > > David. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems installing java
well back in town and trying to install java on mothers pc so she can goto websites with java. I first upgraded her system to sid ( because that is what mine is) then added a site from apt-get.org for j2re1.4 did apt-get install j2re1.4 then this- Setting up j2re1.4 (1.4.0.99beta-1) ... update-alternatives: unable to make /usr/lib/mozilla-cvs/plugins/javaplugin_oji.so.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji-mozilla-cvs.so: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing j2re1.4 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: j2re1.4 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) any ideas? On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 17:56, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 15:03, tripolar wrote: > > it didnt work. mom just tried to access her pogo games , yeah she is > > addicted ;-) > > and got java not working error. I was trying to get it worked out for > > her before I went out of state :-( no such luck. > > will have to try again when I get back > > thanks > > To /etc/apt/sources.list: > > deb http://jopa.studentenweb.org/debian ./ > > Then: apt-get install j2re1.4 > > It'll do it's magic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what kernel to use?
package listing on debian is down. I am using Linux version 2.4.22-1-386 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.2 20030908 (Debian prerelease)) #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 cpu- AMD 2700+ Athlon ABIT NF7 Nvidia chipset Nvidia Nforce2 I want to recompile or try new kernel ( if it would be better) so usb will work- usb webcam, usb printer, usb storage and usb linksys wirelessnetwork adaptor I have had all of these working in GNU/Linux before except linksys wireless adaptor. I have never used debian kernel utils to compile kernel. just the make menuconfig way Would it be better to use debian packages & debian way of installing kernel? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get "waiting for headers" problem
ooops apparently every address in my source.list was down added another source and it works fine On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 11:20, tripolar wrote: > at #apt-get update > gets me > "0% [Waiting for headers] > I have net access. > how to clean out apt-get after using ctrl-C to stop it? > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get "waiting for headers" problem
at #apt-get update gets me "0% [Waiting for headers] I have net access. how to clean out apt-get after using ctrl-C to stop it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: x only works for root
Thanks a million both gnome & kde work now as regular user Paul Morgan wrote: /tmp should be owned by root and open to everyone: drwxrwxrwx9 root root 4096 Nov 30 14:14 /tmp as root, do chown root:root /tmp chmod 777 /tmp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems installing java
it didnt work. mom just tried to access her pogo games , yeah she is addicted ;-) and got java not working error. I was trying to get it worked out for her before I went out of state :-( no such luck. will have to try again when I get back thanks Kristian Niemi wrote: Hmm ... Strange. I do have it linked to .../plugins. As it should be. Forgot to write /plugin; good that you noticed. ;) Strange that it works, actually, because it *is* a bug. Firebird simply crashes; others have had the same problem. I believe they've worked out a fix for it, but ... So, wonder how come it works for you? ... or why it doesn't work for me... h: Krisse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use the same version as you and java works fine. Maybe you should link libjavaplugin_oji.so to /usr/lib/mozilla-firebird/plugins/ instead of mozilla-firebird. Cheers, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: x only works for root
.kde3-errors + break + sysmodmap=/etc/X11/Xmodmap + usrmodmap=/home/suley/.Xmodmap + startup=/home/suley/.kde3rc + resources=/home/suley/.Xresources + startssh= + sshagent=/usr/bin/ssh-agent + '[' -x /usr/bin/ssh-agent -a -z '' ']' + startssh=yes + '[' -x /usr/bin/X11/xmodmap ']' + '[' -f /etc/X11/Xmodmap ']' + '[' -f /home/suley/.Xmodmap ']' + '[' -x /home/suley/.kde3rc ']' + '[' -f /home/suley/.Xresources ']' ++ which kde3 + '[' '!' -n /usr/bin/kde3 ']' + '[' -n yes ']' + exec /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- kde3 mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied .xsession-errors /etc/gdm/PreSession//Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp /etc/gdm/PreSession//Default: running: sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/ run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l :0 suley + WM=kde3 + cp /dev/null /home/suley/.kde3-errors + chmod 600 /home/suley/.kde3-errors + exec tripolar wrote: I have had problems with permissions in /usr/X11R6 I set them #chmod 755 -R /usr/X11R6/ does that look right? that has worked in the past. I was told to remove files in /tmp relating to dcop or orbit ( sorry I forgot and I am not on that machine because x only works for root and I have yet to figure out mutt ;-) ) I have messed with permissions in /tmp what user & group should /tmp be? at this time the only twm for regular users though I cant open any apps like kmail or evolution or mozilla $kmail trying to creat local folder:Permission denied failed to create /tmp/ksocket-tripolar/ _KDE_IceTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener DCOPServer self test failed kdeinit: DCOPServer could not be started . Can't setup DCOP communication Any suggestions? again I messed up /tmp user & group & permissions. need to know the correct user, group and permissions of /tmp also anything relationg to dcop & permissions to get reg users to log into x from gdm Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
x only works for root
I have had problems with permissions in /usr/X11R6 I set them #chmod 755 -R /usr/X11R6/ does that look right? that has worked in the past. I was told to remove files in /tmp relating to dcop or orbit ( sorry I forgot and I am not on that machine because x only works for root and I have yet to figure out mutt ;-) ) I have messed with permissions in /tmp what user & group should /tmp be? at this time the only twm for regular users though I cant open any apps like kmail or evolution or mozilla $kmail trying to creat local folder:Permission denied failed to create /tmp/ksocket-tripolar/ _KDE_IceTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener DCOPServer self test failed kdeinit: DCOPServer could not be started . Can't setup DCOP communication Any suggestions? again I messed up /tmp user & group & permissions. need to know the correct user, group and permissions of /tmp also anything relationg to dcop & permissions to get reg users to log into x from gdm Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems installing java
Thanks to all who have helped. I downloaded java to mom's pc, unpacked it, moved it and created links to mozilla & netscape Now I will wait for my mom to get up and try netscape and mozilla to see if it works :-) Kristian Niemi wrote: Well ... I don't know if there's a `debian-way' that could be used, but I installed it by downloading it from the web ... From the following address, I believe: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html I use Mozilla Firebird, and there I had to put a symbolic link from a file `from java' to Mozilla Fb's plugin-folder. I think the file was '/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32'. Found out about it from a Mozilla.org page. I.e., for me it was done by "ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 /usr/lib/mozilla-firebird/" I'd imagine Mozilla and Netscape would require a similar action; probably exactly the same. I haven't got a clue about konqueror though. ;) Oh, and this shouldn't be a problem for you, since you don't use Firebird, but this particular build of FB that debian `has' right now (unstable), has a bug that doesn't allow it to show java pages. So all of this didn't do me any good, I'll have to wait until debian starts updating their 'unstable' packages again. Heh. I'd imagine Mozilla doesn't have a bug like this. Krisse tripolar wrote: having problems installing java first using apt-get or aptitude what should I install? 2) any tricks to have konqueror, mozilla,& netscape find java? 3. Any links I should set up and how? I have main non-free & contrib in my sources.list unstable thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems installing java
having problems installing java first using apt-get or aptitude what should I install? 2) any tricks to have konqueror, mozilla,& netscape find java? 3. Any links I should set up and how? I have main non-free & contrib in my sources.list unstable thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
questions/comments about new sarge installer & LILO
I have used the new sarge installer alot in the last week and am pretty impressed. Thanks to all responsible. A few things that seem different are 1) the way discs are labeled in lilo for example: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc I am guessing because Debian is the Universal OS and all the different platforms it supports has warranted this change from /dev/hda1. I need to figure out how to get lilo to pick up and boot /dev/hda2. I ran lilo after editing lilo.conf- it didnt pick up m$ partition and commented about name change because I used /dev/hda2 versus .../target0/lun0/disc Where are docs about /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc naming scheme? 2)I was surprised to see lilo start straight way without any prompt nor any delay. maybe I did something wrong :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: messed up mbr- unable to boot
Thanks to all who tried to help. I lost patience and re-installed. I am going to post comments/questions about new sarge installer & LILO On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 19:23, Mark Haney wrote: > > can I use knoppix live-cd to fix mbr to be able to boot sarge & m$XP? > > lilo is installed on sarge. grub maybe also installed though not > configured. > > no boot floppy :-( used new installer and dont remember the option to > make > > boot floppy > > thanks > > I haven't tried Knoppix yet, but I messed up my MBR just the other day > and was able to fix it with the Woody install CD #1, which can also > serve as a rescue CD. I booted to the CD, and then entered: > > 'rescbf24 root=/dev/hda3' > > at the prompt. This started up the 2.4 kernel (I had trouble trying to > rescue with the default kernel; don't think it can read Reiserfs) and > set root to my Woody partition. Then I just edited my menu.lst file for > grub, reset the MBR with the 'update-grub' command, and rebooted. > Everything worked fine after that. > > HTH, > Mark > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
messed up mbr- unable to boot
can I use knoppix live-cd to fix mbr to be able to boot sarge & m$XP? lilo is installed on sarge. grub maybe also installed though not configured. no boot floppy :-( used new installer and dont remember the option to make boot floppy thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how do I fix xserver remotely?
during an install on my parents pc I chose wrong xserver "fbdev" because I didnt know there video card at the time. since then I found out it was s3 savage. First I was locked out because of root password problem. fixed now with help from this list :-) Their pc is running knoppix live-cd ( so she can access internet) while I sort this out. I will need to log in ssh ( not a problem did that earlier) and try to fix x by editing file and hopefully when she reboots after removing knoppix cd, gdm will start. any clues would be helpful thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lost root password
while installing sarge on my parents pc using new installer ( sweet!!) when it came to typing in root password I typed it twice in same line but didnt notice until it came for me to verify my typing again. I left the second line blank thinking when i rebooted there would be no password and could easily add root password then. No suck luck. rebooted and tried one instance of root passwd and two instances of root passwd. no luck. cant log in. I rebooted there machine with a knoppix cd, mounted the harddrive read-write, used vi to edit /etc/shadow & /etc/passwd to reset root password. still no luck what am i missing? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dselect makes me feel like an idiot
I open dselect and search / for nvidia 3 choices come up. i enter return a few times, get to "install" enter then this comes up Why are all these kde programs being removed? Am I not doing something right? Thanks "Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: ark kappfinder karbon kate kcalc kcharselect kchart kcoloredit kcontrol kcron kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdepasswd kdeprint kdesktop kdf kdict kedit kfind kformula kghostview khelpcenter khexedit kicker kiconedit kit kivio kjots klipper kmail kmenuedit knewsticker knode koffice koffice-data koffice-libs konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole korn koshell kpackage kpager kpaint kpersonalizer kpresenter kruler ksirc ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash kspread ksysv ktimer ktip kugar kuser kview kwin kword libarts1 libartsc0 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 lpr secpolicy The following NEW packages will be installed: cupsys-bsd devscripts drscheme fakeroot junior-programming kdebase-doc libarts libncurses5-dev libreadline4-dev libruby1.8 mzscheme nvidia-glx-src nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-src ruby1.8 The following packages will be upgraded libruby ruby 2 upgraded, 15 newly installed, 69 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 11.0MB of archives. After unpacking 110MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
x & kde only run as root
gdm starts, if I log in as root, kde starts & run fine. if I log in as anyother user x fails with various messages /etc/X11/xsession : line 7 xrdb: command not found any ideas? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installing debian though compiling most everything.....
I recently tinkered with another GNU/Linux distro Gentoo. I was impressed with several features- especially having everything run super fast compared to other distros. I am sure there is a simple answer to this though I must ask to get it :-) I would like to go back to debian though start with a very small base then any other programs I install- compile them from source to get a more stripped and fast OS. I seem to remember some line in sources.list relateding to source. Any suggestions what to start with? Also, Do most of you consider Debian better than Gentoo? Why? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
auto repair shop software on linux
Sorry about the lack of info in the last post. I dont have all the info yet- only that he runs windows in his autorepair shop and is getting tired of crashed and dataloss. so at this point any software that he can use on linux- accounting customer database repair records etc. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Auto-Repair shop software on linux?
Hello All Can anyone help me out in finding software for a small auto repair shop that runs on Linux? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
