locked out of my own system (was: HELP!!!)
hello... i am still unable to log into my system, however, i am a little wiser than before. here is what i know: -i am unable to log into my system. the system boots as usual, at the login prompt i login (either normal user or root), give my password and get a login incorrect -i am able to log into single user mode (with my root password, so the password must be working still) but i have no idea what i could do there to get back into the system. -i am able to boot from a rescue disk, but again, i am unable to login. -i assume the whole problem was caused by manually running fsck...it started automatically on boot-up (the UT installation had caused some errors i think) and then prompted me to run fsck manually, which i did, answering yes to all the questions...after it was finished everything seemed to work, except i couldn't log into the system... -i think the problem has something to do with the root system being miounted as read-only, but i am not sure of thet and i don't know how to fix it, i tried to mount -o remount rw / from the single user mode and i tried to start with giving lilo the additional rw parameter...neither of those things changed anything though. does anyone know how to get back into my system? thanks a lot! vester
Re: locked out of my own system (was: HELP!!!)
hi! i am doing this in single user mode obviously... - make sure your / is NOT 100% uhm...what do you mean? it's not 100% full if that is what you meant =) - make sure touch /foo.test.txt works ( it should be writable ) works perfectly fine - make sure you do NOT have /etc/nologin /etc/nologin does not exist... - make sure df shows all your partitions df shows all my partitions. any ideas what else i could try? thanks! vester - or ... you might have a corrupted libcrypt and/or libpams since single user login works... its unlikely to be libs c ya alvin On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, vester wrote: hello... i am still unable to log into my system, however, i am a little wiser than before. here is what i know: -i am unable to log into my system. the system boots as usual, at the login prompt i login (either normal user or root), give my password and get a login incorrect -i am able to log into single user mode (with my root password, so the password must be working still) but i have no idea what i could do there to get back into the system. -i am able to boot from a rescue disk, but again, i am unable to login. -i assume the whole problem was caused by manually running fsck...it started automatically on boot-up (the UT installation had caused some errors i think) and then prompted me to run fsck manually, which i did, answering yes to all the questions...after it was finished everything seemed to work, except i couldn't log into the system... -i think the problem has something to do with the root system being miounted as read-only, but i am not sure of thet and i don't know how to fix it, i tried to mount -o remount rw / from the single user mode and i tried to start with giving lilo the additional rw parameter...neither of those things changed anything though. does anyone know how to get back into my system? thanks a lot! vester -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: locked out of my own system (was: HELP!!!)
okay...i found something. i think alvin was right when he pointed out that it could be because of /etc/nologin (but i cannot log in as root either)... the thing is, the file is there, and i already deleted it but it always comes back. there also is a /etc/nologin.boot and a script /etc/init.d/rmnologin that schould delete the nologin file... locate nologin says: /etc/init.d/rmnologin /etc/nologin /etc/nologin.boot /etc/rc2.d/S99rmnologin /etc/rc3.d/S99rmnologin /etc/rc4.d/S99rmnologin /etc/rc5.d/S99rmnologin /lib/security/pam_no_login.so anyone? thanks, vester
HELP!!!
hi everyone -- i fear i did something stupid. i wanted to try and see how good linux games actually work, so i downloaded the unreal tournament installer from loki, copied the cds to my windows hard disk (because i didn't have support for joliet extension in linux) and well...installed, which seemed to work fine. i then tried to start, but got some error messages because of missing paths, which didn't look very serious really. but then i restarted...on boot up, there were a lot of errors found on the hard disk and thus, the root system was mounted read-only and i was prompted to run fsck manually. i did that and answered yes to the questions (i realise now that i maybe shouldn't have done that) and it seemed as if everything had been fixed, for on the next reboot everything worked fine...all my scripts were executed and i ended up in gdm and wanted to log in...but that didn't work. i switched over to the console and tried to log in from there. no way. login incorrect is what i get for all my user accounts and for the root account too! i am desperate...i need to get back into my system! on the one hand i put weeks and weeks into configuring and customizing everything and on the other hand all my important data are in there...please, please help me...the loki support people have not answered me yet and i am on the verge of panicking. oh yes, my system is debian woody (with a few things from sid) with kernel 2.4.5...i don't know what else to say. :-( thanks all! -vester
Re: HELP!!!
actually i did apt-get update one day ago. that is, i already rebooted three or four times without no problems at all. how can i boot into single user mode? thanks! On 30 Jun 2001, Aquila wrote: This could possibly be the libpam* problem which has nothing to do with your UT installation or manual fscking... did you apt-get upgrade prior to last reboot? Try boot into single user mode and apt-get update/upgrade again. On 30 Jun 2001 12:39:24 +0200, vester wrote: hi everyone -- i fear i did something stupid. i wanted to try and see how good linux games actually work, so i downloaded the unreal tournament installer from loki, copied the cds to my windows hard disk (because i didn't have support for joliet extension in linux) and well...installed, which seemed to work fine. i then tried to start, but got some error messages because of missing paths, which didn't look very serious really. but then i restarted...on boot up, there were a lot of errors found on the hard disk and thus, the root system was mounted read-only and i was prompted to run fsck manually. i did that and answered yes to the questions (i realise now that i maybe shouldn't have done that) and it seemed as if everything had been fixed, for on the next reboot everything worked fine...all my scripts were executed and i ended up in gdm and wanted to log in...but that didn't work. i switched over to the console and tried to log in from there. no way. login incorrect is what i get for all my user accounts and for the root account too! i am desperate...i need to get back into my system! on the one hand i put weeks and weeks into configuring and customizing everything and on the other hand all my important data are in there...please, please help me...the loki support people have not answered me yet and i am on the verge of panicking. oh yes, my system is debian woody (with a few things from sid) with kernel 2.4.5...i don't know what else to say. :-( thanks all! -vester -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- e-mail: aquila at hypox dot org website: http://aquila.hypox.org geek code: GCS d- s+:--- a-- C ULS++ P+++ L+++$ E--- W++ N+ o? K? w O- M-- V-- PS---@ PE--@ Y? PGP- t 5 X- R tv+ b+ DI-- D+ G++ e(++) h! r* y ---
Re: HELP!!!
i am using a QWERTZ keyboard...i think you are right in that it changed to QWERTY, however my passwords should not be affected by the change. is it possible that it changed to something other than QWERTY perhaps? On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Lambrecht Joris wrote: Are you using an AZERTY or QWERZU keyboard by any chance ? Also, does your pasword contain any characters that might be affected by such possible problems. vester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi everyone -- i fear i did something stupid. i wanted to try and see how good linux games actually work, so i downloaded the unreal tournament installer from loki, copied the cds to my windows hard disk (because i didn't have support for joliet extension in linux) and well...installed, which seemed to work fine. i then tried to start, but got some error messages because of missing paths, which didn't look very serious really. but then i restarted...on boot up, there were a lot of errors found on the hard disk and thus, the root system was mounted read-only and i was prompted to run fsck manually. i did that and answered yes to the questions (i realise now that i maybe shouldn't have done that) and it seemed as if everything had been fixed, for on the next reboot everything worked fine...all my scripts were executed and i ended up in gdm and wanted to log in...but that didn't work. i switched over to the console and tried to log in from there. no way. login incorrect is what i get for all my user accounts and for the root account too! i am desperate...i need to get back into my system! on the one hand i put weeks and weeks into configuring and customizing everything and on the other hand all my important data are in there...please, please help me...the loki support people have not answered me yet and i am on the verge of panicking. oh yes, my system is debian woody (with a few things from sid) with kernel 2.4.5...i don't know what else to say. :-( thanks all! -vester -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kapm-idled
can anyone explain to me what exactly the process kapm-idled does and why it takes up 50-90% of cpu usage? i've never noticed it taking up that much usage until today. i cannot stop it from top...i suppose it's got something to do with the apm kernel modules, but i really don't know. it just seems to make my system really slow :-( any advice on how to change that? thanks, vester
Re: kapm-idled
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 04:13:45PM +0200, vester wrote: can anyone explain to me what exactly the process kapm-idled does and why it takes up 50-90% of cpu usage? Kernel APM IDLE Daemon It's a pseudo process that doesn't actually _do_ anything. It just puts the CPU to sleep when there's nothing else going on. i've never noticed it taking up that much usage until today. i cannot stop it from top... Yeah, the idled showing up in the process list is a new 'feature' of the 2.4 series kernels. Give it a little time and a new version of top will come out that knows enough to ignore it. i suppose it's got something to do with the apm kernel modules, but i really don't know. it just seems to make my system really slow :-( Have you noticed an actual performance decrease or are you just assuming that it's slowing other things down because of the high CPU usage displayed? hmmm, i thought it would be something like this. actually, at first i noticed an actual slowdown (but then, that was most likely to viewing a java web page with mozilla) which made me first check top...after that, i was too concerned about the high numbers to give an unbiased statement i guess. anyway, thanks a lot...i was really worried for a while =)
Re: login -graphical user interface
one possibility would be to edit your /etc/init.d/windowmanager-script (that is, xdm gdm kdm or whatever you are using)...just put in exit into the first line then they won't start and you'll stay in console... you could simply delete the scripts but you shouldn't do that (because i did and now, on a reinstall of gdm i get an error that /etc/init.d/gdm doesn't exist...and if i create it again installation goes ok, but it doesn't reinstall the script either...) On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Peter Whittam wrote: Ok, I am new at this so be cool about it. when I start debian it immediately uses the graphical login, can I change this option to console login? regards newbee
Re: login -graphical user interface
On 10 Jun 2001, Glyn Millington wrote: you could simply delete the scripts but you shouldn't do that (because i did and now, on a reinstall of gdm i get an error that /etc/init.d/gdm doesn't exist...and if i create it again installation goes ok, but it doesn't reinstall the script either...) Ah yes - the magical incantation require to adjust the rc.d scripts is update-rc.d which will strip out the commands to start your display manager. update-rc.d -f gdm remove Read man update-rc.d before you try it though! hey thanks! i didn't expect an answer on this one ;-) i used update-rc.d -f gdm remove to remove all the symlinks...now, my problem is how to get the whole script back, i tried apt-get install --reinstall gdm but that gives me: [...] update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gdm: file does not exist dpkg: error processing gdm (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [...] it works fine if i first touch /etc/init.d/gdm only that doesn't do the job obviously because it doesn't recreate /etc/init.d/gdm --how can i get that file back??? (and i thorougly learnt my lesson: do not manually remove scripts! hehe) thanks! -vester
Re: login -graphical user interface
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Steve Kowalik wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 02:53:24PM +0200, vester uttered: [...] update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gdm: file does not exist dpkg: error processing gdm (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [...] it works fine if i first touch /etc/init.d/gdm only that doesn't do the job obviously because it doesn't recreate /etc/init.d/gdm --how can i get that file back??? Ahha! The fun of removing init scripts. touch /etc/init.d/gdm chmod 755 /etc/init.d/gdm apt-get remove gdm but still, that doesn't bring the original gdm script back, does it? or am i missing something? best, vester
gdm
hi everyone! i foolishly deleted /etc/init.d/gdm -- could anyone send me that script or tell me how to re-install it? also, does anyone know whether or not it is possible have gdm welcom text with a line break? the corresponding line in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf is: Welcome=your welcome message here is it possible to have a line break in this message? thanks! vester
Re: oh crikey, it's ALSA all over again
hi, just recently installed alsa drivers too...so, i'm just wondering: you said you untarred alsa into the modules subdirectory? normally the alsa installation script should do that for you. also, you shouldn't have to copy files around...with debian anyway. i remember, coming from suse myself, i used to do that alot too...with debian however, you should be okay without doing that. basically you should just put all the files (kernel source, alsa drivers) to wherever you want them to be (myself, i put them into /usr/src/kernel-source-x.x.x and /usr/src/alsa) then change over to the alsa directory and run ./configure --with-cards=the module for your card additionally you may have to add another --with for the directory of the kernel source... alsa will copy the modules to the appropriate subdirs...afterwards run ./snddevices, that should do the job! hth, vester On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Blue Rat wrote: Hey ho, Well, you'll never guess. The transition from Mandrake 7.2 to Debian didn't exactly go without a glitch, but I have configured almost everything I need. Almost. Except for ALSA modules, that is. Oh, I have unpacked the kernel source into /usr/src/linux all right; ALSA modules have been untarred into the modules subdirectory where they belong, run configure and I'm fine. Try to make them and I'm told that no version.h file is present in the source directory. Copy it from /usr/include, make - and I'm knee deep in error messages going on and on about declarations about nonexistent parameters. No luck with alsaconf either. My box remains immersed into gloomy voicelessness, and there is no way to support my high with some of Merzbow from my mp3 collection :( Cheerio, Pope Mickey XXIII, Head Priest Of The Blown Fuse Cabal. -- 'The bloody master Is bloody dead dead dead' --David Tibet -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting modules.conf to load sound at startup
basically run /sbin/modconf whatever modules you add here will load at bootup -- the straightforward way is to add your modules to /etc/modules (but i'm not sure about options here) hth, vester On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Chris Kenrick wrote: I've managed to get sound working on an SB16 sound card (manually modprobing from the command line works), but I'm having trouble trying to get it to load at bootup. Yes, I did run update-modules after each change... but after reboot no sound drivers are present according to lsmod, and dmesg shows no sound-related messages. Must be some nuance I'm missing here... /etc/modutils/sb looks as follows... options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 alias sound sb /etc/modules.conf is: ### This file is automatically generated by update-modules # # Please do not edit this file directly. If you want to change or add # anything please take a look at the files in /etc/modutils and read # the manpage for update-modules. # ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/0keep # DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE! # This file is not marked as conffile to make sure if you upgrade modutils # it will be restored in case some modifications have been made. # # The keep command is necessary to prevent insmod and friends from ignoring # the builtin defaults of a path-statement is encountered. Until all other # packages use the new `add path'-statement this keep-statement is essential # to keep your system working keep ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/0keep ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/aliases # Aliases to tell insmod/modprobe which modules to use # Uncomment the network protocols you don't want loaded: # alias net-pf-1 off# Unix # alias net-pf-2 off# IPv4 # alias net-pf-3 off# Amateur Radio AX.25 # alias net-pf-4 off# IPX # alias net-pf-5 off# DDP / appletalk # alias net-pf-6 off# Amateur Radio NET/ROM # alias net-pf-9 off# X.25 # alias net-pf-10 off # IPv6 # alias net-pf-11 off # ROSE / Amateur Radio X.25 PLP # alias net-pf-19 off # Acorn Econet alias char-major-10-130 softdog alias char-major-10-175 agpgart alias char-major-81 bttv alias char-major-108ppp_generic alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate # Crypto modules (see http://www.kerneli.org/) alias loop-xfer-gen-0 loop_gen alias loop-xfer-3 loop_fish2 alias loop-xfer-gen-10 loop_gen alias cipher-2 des alias cipher-3 fish2 alias cipher-4 blowfish alias cipher-6 idea alias cipher-7 serp6f alias cipher-8 mars6 alias cipher-11 rc62 alias cipher-15 dfc2 alias cipher-16 rijndael alias cipher-17 rc5 ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/aliases ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/eepro options eepro io=0x210 irq=10 ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/eepro ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/paths # This file contains a list of paths that modprobe should scan, # beside the once that are compiled into the modutils tools # themselves. # This used to be quite a list, but upstream merged some Debian patches # so we currently don't need to do anything here ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/paths ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/sb options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 alias sound sb ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/sb ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/setserial # # This is what I wanted to do, but logger is in /usr/bin, which isn't loaded # when the module is first loaded into the kernel at boot time! # #post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial start | logger -p daemon.info -t set serial-module reload #pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial stop | logger -p daemon.info -t setser ial-module uload post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial modload /dev/null 2 /dev/null pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial modsave /dev/null 2 /dev/null ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/setserial ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386 alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc alias char-major-10-144 nvram alias binfmt-0064 binfmt_aout alias char-major-10-135 rtc ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PCMCIA advice needed!
hello, just a basic question about pcmcia...should i get the pcmcia source package and compile them myself or does the pcmcia-modules package basically provide for this? i compiled my kernel with pcmcia support and cardctl seems to recognise my cards (at least the names), a network card is automatically assigned to /dev/eth0 but modem and cd-drive for example are not assigned to /dev/modem and /cdrom respectively...also, when i checked in /var/log/daemon.log i saw that cardmgr gets some modprobe error messages... for a modem to work, do i have to create /dev/modem myself? with mknod? help! well, basically i thought, since i got those error messages in the log file and the cards seem to be found correctly, that there are missing modules or something like that...so that's why i wanted to know if it is generally a good idea to compile the pcmcia sources manually or not (the most important card (network) works, so i am coutious about changing anything really) thanks... -vester
Re: First Debian Install Question
it would help to know which setup program that was, and whether it is xfree4 or 3... basically to re-run configuration you add -reconfigure or something like that... but what i would suggest is to simply start your favourite setup program yourself, for xfree3: xf86config or XF86Setup (if you haven't got them installed run # apt-get install xf86setup xf86config ) for xfree4 it may be xf86config again... HTH, vester On Wed, 30 May 2001, Bill Witherspoon wrote: Hi all, Can anyone tell me how to re-run the X setup proggy that you get through dselect? I had to pop out of the configurator to install xfonts, and can't seem to get back into it. (I had to lie and tell it X was properly configed). TIA, Bill
Re: Slow Ximian Gnome 1.4
i think one of the main reasons is that nautilus draws the desktop...open nautilus and in the preferrences make sure that nautilus does *not* draw the desktop (let sawfish or whatever do that instead)...now check again...hope this improves speed! but then, if you want a fast desktop there's always blackbox =) best, vester On 31 May 2001, Patrick Colbeck wrote: Hi I 'upgraded' my Gnome on 2.2.r3 to Ximian 1.4 and it now runs like a dog. I have a P400 with 128Mb RAM and a Matrox G200, running top with just a gnome terminal open shows 50% CPU idle with XSVGA and Nautilus being the biggest CPU hogs (even though all Nautilus windows are closed). On the same system with KDE 2.1.2 and a Konsole open running top and Konqueror open I get 98% CPU idle ! Is everyone else seeing something similar or do I have some kind of problem on my box ? Pat -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pcmcia-cdrom woes
hello, this is annoying, i had thought my kernel finally supported all the hardware in my notebook only to find out that the cd drive didn't work...so i re-compiled the kernel, basically messing up everything that had been working before. well, now i think i am back to where i've been before...i am using kernel 2.4.4 and i think i have built in all the necessary things for pcmcia cdrom. my pcmcia works (so pcmcia should be ok)...i'm wondering, maybe i am just not aware of some kind of procedure to activate a pcmcia cd drive...so what i would need is simply a short explanation as to what has to be done in order to get a cd-drive to work...can anybody help me out? thanks, vester
pcmcia-cdrom woes (2)
what i should add is that the cd-drive works with the kernel that was originally provided by the debian installation...actually it was about the only thing that did work with that kernel...anyway, thanks all! vester
mixer - soundcard question
hi! while i'm at it, there's one more thing that's been bothering me... i installed the alsa drivers for my soundcard, and all works nice now, except, the cannels are muted after every restart...that is i need to run gmmix (and it does remember the volume levels from the last session) in order to hear sound...this is strange and it's not really a solution to start gmix on each reboot =) advice is greatly appreciated! thanks, vester
Re: gtk-themes not working
okay, i solved this myself...pretty easy apt-get install gtk-engines-pixmap sorry for asking such a dumb question... On Wed, 30 May 2001, vester wrote: hi, it's me again...i still haven't figured this one out: problem is that apparently gtk themes aren't working anymore. that is, only those using pictures, because the colour scheming seems to work correctly. gtk-theme-switch crashes when i attempt to install new themes that use pictures...but since i've already had a few installed in /usr/share/themes/ i can try to load those with the effect mentioned earlier: the colour scheme loads, but no pictures. i assume there is a package missing, but i do not know how to find out what it is...i've searched through dselect for gtk and themes but that didn't really help. ideas, anyone? thanks in advance, vester -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ximian Gnome Problem
i had some problems with ximian too (on woody though) ... for the alternative installation (the apt-get one) have you added the particular ximian server to your sources-list? i don't remember the address but you can find it at ximian.com i remember in the beginning they actually forgot to add the task package, but i think by now they've added it so basically, when you use potato and added ximian to your sources list # apt-get install task-ximian-gnome should do the job. accordingly it should be easy to get rid of all ximian packages and start over. i browsed through dselect and marked all packages with ximian in the version number for deletion and that worked fine. hope that helps! vester On Wed, 30 May 2001, Thomas H. George wrote: Installation of Ximian Gnome Desktop failed, left problems I can't resolve. Last week I started download/installation of the full ximian gnome desktop from the ximian web site. The lengthy download timed out at about 50%. When restarted it completed the download of 319 files then the installation failed in mid-process. A subseqent dpkg command found many conflicting dependencies and aborted unable to resolve them all. The next time I tried to use apt-get it removed 100 files. After this I no longer had mozilla and when I tried apt-get --fix-broken --fix-missing install mozilla it reported that this could not be installed as an ximian file was to be installed. Not knowing how to find and remove the conflicting ximian files and having no mozilla, I thought to try again to install the ximian gnome desktop from the stable distribution (I'm running debian linux 2.2.19) with apt-get install task-ximian-gnome (an alternative listed at the ximian web site) There is, however, no such .deb package in the stable distribution. I next looked in ftp.ximian.com where I found a signature package for task-ximian-gnome but nothing else. I have sent a couple of emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and yesterday tried filing a bug report but as yet have received no response. Does anyone know how clean up - i.e. remove all the conflicting pieces of the ximian installation - other than wiping out my entire debian installation and starting over? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gtk-themes not working
hi, it's me again...i still haven't figured this one out: problem is that apparently gtk themes aren't working anymore. that is, only those using pictures, because the colour scheming seems to work correctly. gtk-theme-switch crashes when i attempt to install new themes that use pictures...but since i've already had a few installed in /usr/share/themes/ i can try to load those with the effect mentioned earlier: the colour scheme loads, but no pictures. i assume there is a package missing, but i do not know how to find out what it is...i've searched through dselect for gtk and themes but that didn't really help. ideas, anyone? thanks in advance, vester
woody/sid questions (was: Re: ximian 1.4 and woody)
okay...so you have me convinced. i just got rid of all the ximian packages, deleted the ximian server from sources-list and added sid instead...the oddyssey started there... to install new packages i had to go through a lot of upgrading, which was a bit tricky especially with the perl perl-modules and perl-base packages, but somehow i sorted it all out and now here i am with a lot of software out of sid, but there are a few things i haven't figured out yet and, it beeing 3am (ouch) i'd be very grateful for advice =) -my cool blackbox desktop won't load anymore...i suppose it is because the command xsetbg got lost somewhere along the way of upgrading to unstable...i've been browsing through dselect for some time now, to no avail. does anyone know what package provides for the xsetbg command??? this is vital for me! -gnumeric (along with evolution and redcarpet) depend on libgal6 which appears to be missing ... now, i haven't made up my mind if i really want to use those applications, but i'd like to know, just in case, what i can do about this... -this is a general one: i basically have testing in my sources list now, and added unstable to it...i guess my system is basically still testing? with a lot of packages out of unstable though. my question is: does this make sense? or should i rather move to unstable all the way? i'm feeling kind of awkward about this move though...so would it also make sense to put unstable out of my sources list once i've installed all the packages i wanted on my system and everything is working? i guess there is no real answer to this question but since i am still new to debian, it would help to get some advice! thanks all! -vester On Mon, 28 May 2001, [ISO-8859-1] christophe barbé wrote: I understand that you want to keep ximian but I would like to convinced you that is far from being a good thing. They provided a quite less uptodate gnome 1.4. With ximian you are sticky to mozilla 0.8.1 and IIRC psm isn't working. As you noticed you get dependencies problems. They have strange habits like crazy numbering scheme for packages : Last time I check the libnspr4 (netscpe library for mozilla) version number was not consistent with the mozilla one but they are build from the same source. You can have a better desktop without ximian. They do a very good job. There red-carpet is a very good thing for the rpm's world (and perhaps for the potato users) but as a debian (woody/sid) user you have already better tools. Remove Ximian from your sources.list ! Christophe On Sun, 27 May 2001 13:57:41 vester wrote: hello, my system is debian testing/unstable and i'd still like to use ximian 1.4...any experiences? i mean it's working, more or less...i basically added the ximian server to my sources list and apt-get installed the packages. results: gnome is working as far as i can tell, with the following exceptions: -red carpet depends on packages usermode, which depends on two packages which don't seem to be available for woody, so i got them from potato instead. but when i try to start red-carpet (after the query for the root password pops up as usual) i get a segmentation fault...so, no red-carpet! -there is this general problem that the package libgnomeprint11 won't install because apparently it doesn't want to overwrite some files that have already been provided by libgnomeprint-bin -- because of the arising dependency issues nautilus, gnumeric and abiword won't install either! any ideas there? well, those are my main problems basically. any ideas on how to fix them? thanks all! -vester -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody/sid
oh...of course i forgot something: -i have also problems with gtk themes...i had AquaGraphite installed...after the upgrade it is still there, but i just get the standard gtk theme...is there any vital gtk package that i might have to install? thanks, vester
ximian 1.4 and woody
hello, my system is debian testing/unstable and i'd still like to use ximian 1.4...any experiences? i mean it's working, more or less...i basically added the ximian server to my sources list and apt-get installed the packages. results: gnome is working as far as i can tell, with the following exceptions: -red carpet depends on packages usermode, which depends on two packages which don't seem to be available for woody, so i got them from potato instead. but when i try to start red-carpet (after the query for the root password pops up as usual) i get a segmentation fault...so, no red-carpet! -there is this general problem that the package libgnomeprint11 won't install because apparently it doesn't want to overwrite some files that have already been provided by libgnomeprint-bin -- because of the arising dependency issues nautilus, gnumeric and abiword won't install either! any ideas there? well, those are my main problems basically. any ideas on how to fix them? thanks all! -vester
Re: Free mail a/c that allows download of mail
try www.crosswinds.net -- i think they offer a free pop3 account... On Sun, 27 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any free mail accounts (like hotmail etc.) that allow you to download your mail so that you can read it with mutt say? Instead of having to view it through the web browser when connected to the internet. I want something that you can use fetchmail or something similar to download the mail with. Is there any that allow this? Thanks in advance. Mark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrolling mouse
apt-get install imwheel did it for me, simply run imwheel -k once you're in x and scrolling should work... of course you have to provide the right lines in your XF86Config, depending on which version of X you're using that will be in a different section, but basically add the following line to wherever you set-up your mouse: ZAxisMapping 4 5 (or alternatively: 5 4 depending on how you'd like it to handle the scrolling) hope that helps! -vester On Sun, 27 May 2001, Reza wrote: Hi there I use Logitech scrolling mouse which is connected in PS/2 , and I don't what to change to make the scrolling works.. can anyone help me? thanks regards, Reza __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gkrellm mail plugin / fetchmail / exim basics
hi! could anybody explain the basics of debian's local mail delivery to me? or, to be more precise: i want to be able to use the gkrellm mail plugin. in order to do that i added several pop servers to fetchmail using fetchmailconf but when i run fetchmail, nothing happens...i do not really know how the local mail delivery works: i'm on a single pc with a cable modem (so no LAN) and i have got exim installed (i think exim handles mail) thanks!
RE: gkrellm mail plugin
hi glyn... fetchmail seems to work...i added that line, looked at the log file and there it clearly logged the retrieval of my emails. as a result (i am using telnet at the moment) your email also disappeared from the inbox i was working on...the email however was not sent to /var/spool/mail/amael (my user name) or at least it is not there. so i guess i need to change something about how exim handles mail...? thanks, vester
ALSA / sound
@ noah: hi...sorry, didn't read the INSTALL file carefully enough, sorry! =) anyway, it's all working now...except snd-seq-oss still won't load. but i hear sound -- that is what i wanted. thanks! @ christophe: i followed noah's suggestion and got the alsa package directly from www.alsa-project.org best, -vester
Re: need help with ALSA / soundcard
ooops, i forgot: use ./snddevices after you have compiled the drivers, and alsamixer will work! i think cameron just had the same problem and noah's advice fixed it for him -- good thing =) cheers, vester On Wed, 23 May 2001, [ISO-8859-1] christophe barbé wrote: Hi all, Vester, did you use the alsa modules debain package or you take it from www.alsa-project.org source. I got the same problem : I've tried several thing and everything load fine but I hear no sound (after unmuting my card) or the alsamixer said me thing like lsamixer: failed to open mixer #0/#0: No ... . Christophe ... PS: Who is Cameron Matheson ? He doesn't start the thread and suddenly claims that an advice fixed the problem. On Wed, 23 May 2001 02:22:45 Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:36:12AM +0200, vester wrote: modprobe snd-seq-oss says: /lib/modules/2.4.4/misc/snd-seq-oss.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmor errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters alsamixer says: alsamixer: failed to open mixer #0/#0: No such file or directory Run the snddevices script that's included with the alsa-driver package. I believe that is mentioned in the INSTALL file. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
easy question
i know this sounds trivial, but i haven't figured it out...after installing and successfully loading ALSA drivers (as root) sound applications only work as root...what do i need to change to make sound accessible to normal users? anyone? thanks! -vester
Re: Kernel Modules
hi, i'm battling with modules myself at the moment, but i already see the light at the end of the tunnel... my suggestion would be to compile a kernle that serves your needs. apt-get install kernel-source/2.x.x and then basically you find the source under /usr/src/ together with lots of documentation, also on modules. if you want to keep the same kernel i'd look at /etc/modutils (that's where you can configure your modules) also, the easiest way to load your modules is either /sbin/modprobe or /sbin/modconf /usr/doc/modutils will also give you some ideas on to how debian configures and loads modules... hope that gives you somewhere to start =) best, vester On Tue, 22 May 2001, John Tatum wrote: Just call me Mr. Newbie. This is my first Debian box and I have reached the limits of my current knowledge. I am looking for info on how to configure kernel modules. I presume there is a howto somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. Specifically, I am trying to get my sound card (I have a Red Hat driver and install procedure for this, but no clue how to use them), zip drive, and CD/RW drive loaded and configured and really have no clue where to begin for any of them. I also need to configure for network printing. On the plus side I have fully configured x and have gnome running over icewm successfully. If someone knows where the docs are for these items, I would be extremely grateful. Thanks, John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
need help with ALSA / soundcard
i'm using a vaio notebook with a yamaha ymf-754 soundcard on debian/testing. i compiled the kernel with CONFIG_SOUND CONFIG_SOUND_OSS and CONFIG_SOUND_YMFPCI as modules (i know that the last one is the correct module for my soundcard, because it worked with my old suse system) and succesfully loaded the modules -- however i didn't hear sound with xmms since i used alsa drivers in my old suse configuration i apt-get installed alsaconf...but alsa doesn't detect my soundcard automatically, so i selected it myself which didn't work either. the alsa script gives me the following output: Starting ALSA sound driver (version none):modprobe: Can't locate module snd no driver installed what can i do to make sound work? i don't particularly need to use alsa -- i just want to have the soundcard working anyway i can! thanks! vester
Re: need help with ALSA / soundcard
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 07:57:40PM +0200, vester wrote: i'm using a vaio notebook with a yamaha ymf-754 soundcard on debian/testing. i compiled the kernel with CONFIG_SOUND CONFIG_SOUND_OSS and CONFIG_SOUND_YMFPCI as modules (i know that the last one is the correct module for my soundcard, because it worked with my old suse system) and succesfully loaded the modules -- however i didn't hear sound with xmms Try # modprobe snd-card-ymfpci # modprobe snd-pcm-oss # modprobe snd-seq-oss # alsamixer Use alsamixer to un-mute the channels and set the volume to the level you want it. hi noah! modprobe gives me a Can't locate module output to all three of them... do i need to i need to compile them with the kernel, or should they be provided by the alsa packages? best, vester HTH. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html
Re: need help with ALSA / soundcard
i think i am almost there...i basically did what you suggested, now modprobe snd-card-ymfpci modprobe snd-pcm-oss work fine, but modprobe snd-seq-oss says: /lib/modules/2.4.4/misc/snd-seq-oss.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmor errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters alsamixer says: alsamixer: failed to open mixer #0/#0: No such file or directory when i run xmms as root now i can play files, but can't hear anything. do you know what i could do? thanks for your help! best, vester On Tue, 22 May 2001, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 08:33:21PM +0200, vester wrote: modprobe gives me a Can't locate module output to all three of them... Run depmod -a, followed by modprobe -l to list the available modules. If you don't see the right modules, you'll have to rebuild them. What I normally do is get the ALSA stuff directly from ALSA. The packaged stuff from Debian just seemed to complicate things, and often meant that you were using an slightly outdated version of the code. Get the alsa-driver package from http://www.alsa-project.org/. When building it, use ´./configure --with-cards=ymfpci' to tell it to build the drivers for your Yamaha chipset (I've got the same chipset in my VAIO). 'make', 'make install', 'depmod -a', followed by the commands I mentioned previously, and you should be all set. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html
Re: modprobe / modutils problems...
ookay...following your suggestion i started modprobe with the module name, omitting the .o extension -- now modprobe apm doesn't give me any error message (in fact there is no output at all but i guess that is the way it should be) so it happens there is nothing wrong with modprobe after all i just used a wrong syntax! thanks for picking me up! hmmm...i hope i'm not too much of a bother! could you tell me if i should in theory be able to hear sound when the sound modules are loaded succesfully? because when i instert the particular modules i get the output that my soundcard was found, with correct irq and all...but that doesn't do the job... anyway, thanks a lot for your modprobe suggestions! cheers, vester On Mon, 21 May 2001, Mirek Kwasniak wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:34:24AM +0200, vester wrote: [...] # depmod -av (Have you ever done? On Debian it should be automatic but you may have a broken system) output is a long list with all my modules in the respective /lib/modules/2.4.4/... directories. apart from that there are ALSO a lot of other modules that are, it seems, searched for under /lib/modules/... (no kernel version number) and it always says failed at the end of those lines. # modprobe -c this gives me an even longer list...at first it lists some paths: path[toplevel]=/lib/modules/2.4.4 and then the paths to the various modules, HOWEVER they are all listed as /lib/modules/_subdirectories_here ... that is to say, without the version number again, or in other words, not where they actually are located... It found all your modules then OK. It tests not only /lib/modules/2.4.4 tree but also /lib/modules/2.4/ and /lib/modules/ for more generic (aka not version depended modules) then also OK. after that there follow many aliases and options... # insmod -vn one_of_your_modules again, this only works i use the whole path...so: # insmod -vn /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o Using: /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o Symbol Version Prefix '' # insmod -vn apm.o gives me: Can't locate module -- and that is precisely what modprobe presents me with. Double error :) 1) When you aren't in proper directory (in this case /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/) syntax: insmod -vn apm.o is buggy. It should be written: insmod -vn apm 2) But I get different error messages with my tests: I don't have apm.o: $ insmod -nv apm.o Using apm.o insmod: apm.o: No such file or directory $ insmod -n apm insmod: apm: no module by that name found I have cpuid.o: $ cd / $ insmod -nv cpuid.o Using cpuid.o insmod: cpuid.o: No such file or directory $ insmod -n cpuid Using /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpuid.o $ cd /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/arch/i386/kernel $ insmod -nv cpuid.o Using cpuid.o $ insmod -nv cpuid [...] Using /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpuid.o Symbol version prefix '' i suppose it is becaue of those wrong paths? but how can i put them right? any ideas? I out of ideas. I may suggest: 1) Are you shure that modules are from your current kernel? When you compiled/installed 2.4.4 more then once Debian installer always suggests renaming /lib/modules/2.4.4 to /lib/modules/2.4.4.old before install new kernel. 2) Recompile kernel with new modutils. I use versioned modules (and Debian as I know). As I remember du you follow traditional kernel-compilation procedure. Try Debian way: make-kpkg. It's nice and gives less possibilties to make some common mistakes. 3) Purge (make backup before) and reinstall modutils with all config files. 4) Check your filesystem(s). 5) Has your configuration something specific - check Debian bug tracking system maybe answer is there? Mirek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modprobe / modutils problems...
ii modutils 2.4.6-3 Linux module utilities. :) in woody but i think 2.4.2 should be OK. ooops... after apt-get update i downloaded version 2.4.6-3 too. Check outputs of: # depmod -av (Have you ever done? On Debian it should be automatic but you may have a broken system) output is a long list with all my modules in the respective /lib/modules/2.4.4/... directories. apart from that there are ALSO a lot of other modules that are, it seems, searched for under /lib/modules/... (no kernel version number) and it always says failed at the end of those lines. # modprobe -c this gives me an even longer list...at first it lists some paths: path[toplevel]=/lib/modules/2.4.4 and then the paths to the various modules, HOWEVER they are all listed as /lib/modules/_subdirectories_here ... that is to say, without the version number again, or in other words, not where they actually are located... after that there follow many aliases and options... # insmod -vn one_of_your_modules again, this only works i use the whole path...so: # insmod -vn /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o Using: /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o Symbol Version Prefix '' # insmod -vn apm.o gives me: Can't locate module -- and that is precisely what modprobe presents me with. i suppose it is becaue of those wrong paths? but how can i put them right? any ideas? thanks a lot! vester They should have paths to your kernel modules Mirek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
modprobe / modutils problems...
hi all! i just compiled kernel-2.4.4 and it boots without any problems, but modprobe is never able to locate my modules. after i compiled the kernel i also ran 'make modules' and 'make modules_install' the modules do exist and are working, because i can insert them with insmod when i am in the same directory as the module, and /sbin/modconf loads them as well (so the correct paths seem to be compiled into modconf) what about modprobe though? i checked the version and it it 2.4.2 -- does that mean i can only load kernel 2.4.2 modules? i am using debian testing, modutils 2.4.2 is the newest version (kernel-source-2.4.4 is the newest version respectively) since modconf loads my modules it's not that bad really, the problem however is that programs like alsaconf don't seem to work without modprobe...even though i loaded the sound module with modconf and it does find my soundcard, i can neither hear sound nor run alsaconf successfully -- i *think* it is all because of modprobe doesn't locate the modules... i also tried to add the respective /lib/modules/2.4.4/... directories in /etc/modutils but to no avail can anybody suggest to me how to solve this? thanks! -vester
