Re: 'motion' does not save movies, only still pics

2014-09-26 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message -
 From: Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com
 On 26/09/14 00:12, Rob Owens wrote:
  One thing that may be a factor in my case is that my test webcam is
  very slow.  I am only getting one picture every 2 or 3 seconds when
  motion is detected.  I have framerate set to 2 fps.  Maybe motion is
  aware that my pics are too far apart in time and is deciding not to
  combine them into a movie.
 
 Any clues in the logs?  'top' may help find any bottlenecks. Note that
 an older box will have problems with high frequency high resolution
 images - especially with USB  3. A work around that problem might be
 any or all of:-
 ;reduce frequency of images
 ;reduce image resolution
 ;offload image processing to hardware
 
 What sort of motion are you wanting to detect at 2 fps? A break-in by
 Speedy Gonzales? ;p
 Be careful or your motion directory will quickly fill with a huge amount
 of pictures. I don't use the movie output version - though I've used it
 in the past. I found it an unnecessary use of resources - it's trivial
 to construct a movie from the relevant still images at a later date -
 just ensure that you email those images off-site immediately after a
 motion event is detected (if you're using motion for security purposes).
 
 
 It may be relevant that while I do have the deb-multimedia.org
 repository enabled on the Debian (Wheezy) systems that run motion, it's
 pinned to give preference to debian repositories:-
 $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/multimedia.pref
 Package: *
 Pin: origin *.deb-multimedia.org
 Pin-Priority: 200

2 fps was the default.  I've just been testing basic functionality so far.

syslog shows ffmpeg errors.  I have ffmpeg installed from deb-multimedia.org, 
and I'm guessing there's a difference in command options or something.  I'll 
change that and report back.  Thanks for the help.

-Rob


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'motion' does not save movies, only still pics

2014-09-25 Thread Rob Owens
I tested 'motion' on Wheezy yesterday.  It detects motion and takes still 
shots, but it is not creating movies out of the still shots.  

I have set:

# Use ffmpeg to encode mpeg movies in realtime (default: off)
ffmpeg_cap_new on

and

# Gap is the seconds of no motion detection that triggers the end of an event
# An event is defined as a series of motion images taken within a short 
timeframe.
# Recommended value is 60 seconds (Default). The value 0 is allowed and disables
# events causing all Motion to be written to one single mpeg file and no 
pre_capture.
gap 60

Can anybody confirm that movie output works on Wheezy?

One thing that may be a factor in my case is that my test webcam is very slow.  
I am only getting one picture every 2 or 3 seconds when motion is detected.  I 
have framerate set to 2 fps.  Maybe motion is aware that my pics are too far 
apart in time and is deciding not to combine them into a movie.

-Rob


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Re: 'motion' does not save movies, only still pics

2014-09-25 Thread Bob McGowan
On 9/25/14, 7:12 AM, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote:

I tested 'motion' on Wheezy yesterday.  It detects motion and takes still
shots, but it is not creating movies out of the still shots.

I have set:

# Use ffmpeg to encode mpeg movies in realtime (default: off)
ffmpeg_cap_new on

and

# Gap is the seconds of no motion detection that triggers the end of an
event
# An event is defined as a series of motion images taken within a short
timeframe.
# Recommended value is 60 seconds (Default). The value 0 is allowed and
disables
# events causing all Motion to be written to one single mpeg file and no
pre_capture.
gap 60

Can anybody confirm that movie output works on Wheezy?

One thing that may be a factor in my case is that my test webcam is very
slow.  I am only getting one picture every 2 or 3 seconds when motion is
detected.  I have framerate set to 2 fps.  Maybe motion is aware that my
pics are too far apart in time and is deciding not to combine them into a
movie.

-Rob


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I should have added a caveat to my original response, I hadn't actually
tried it, since my needs pointed me to a more feature full system.


Looking at the 'gap' description, I wonder if you need to set it to '0' in
order to get a movie?

Bob


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Re: 'motion' does not save movies, only still pics

2014-09-25 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/25/14, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote:
 I tested 'motion' on Wheezy yesterday.  It detects motion and takes still
 shots, but it is not creating movies out of the still shots.

 I have set:

 # Use ffmpeg to encode mpeg movies in realtime (default: off)
 ffmpeg_cap_new on

 and

 # Gap is the seconds of no motion detection that triggers the end of an
 event
 # An event is defined as a series of motion images taken within a short
 timeframe.
 # Recommended value is 60 seconds (Default). The value 0 is allowed and
 disables
 # events causing all Motion to be written to one single mpeg file and no
 pre_capture.
 gap 60

 Can anybody confirm that movie output works on Wheezy?

 One thing that may be a factor in my case is that my test webcam is very
 slow.  I am only getting one picture every 2 or 3 seconds when motion is
 detected.  I have framerate set to 2 fps.  Maybe motion is aware that my
 pics are too far apart in time and is deciding not to combine them into a
 movie.


I can't help you with motion but I had a thought as I was reading
your predicament.. OpenShot will produce an mpeg video output of
multiple images if you find yourself up against a deadline or
something and need an alternative.

If motion is throwing all your images into one folder, it's as simple
as highlighting all and importing them together into a new project..
After that you do the same thing within the program to drag them onto
a track where you can play with how they are presented within your
final product...

I'll be happy to *try* to help shorten the learning curve if you end
up having to go that route.. I do understand that the point of your
request is ideally motion would be producing that format without
further intervention from outside software.

Cindy :)

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Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

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Re: 'motion' does not save movies, only still pics

2014-09-25 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message -
 From: Cindy-Sue Causey butterflyby...@gmail.com
 
 I can't help you with motion but I had a thought as I was reading
 your predicament.. OpenShot will produce an mpeg video output of
 multiple images if you find yourself up against a deadline or
 something and need an alternative.
 
Good to know.  Thanks.

-Rob


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Re: 'motion' does not save movies, only still pics

2014-09-25 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message -
 From: Bob McGowan bob_mcgo...@symantec.com
 
 On 9/25/14, 7:12 AM, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote:
 
 I tested 'motion' on Wheezy yesterday.  It detects motion and takes still
 shots, but it is not creating movies out of the still shots.
 
 I have set:
 
 # Use ffmpeg to encode mpeg movies in realtime (default: off)
 ffmpeg_cap_new on
 
 and
 
 # Gap is the seconds of no motion detection that triggers the end of an
 event
 # An event is defined as a series of motion images taken within a short
 timeframe.
 # Recommended value is 60 seconds (Default). The value 0 is allowed and
 disables
 # events causing all Motion to be written to one single mpeg file and no
 pre_capture.
 gap 60
 
 Can anybody confirm that movie output works on Wheezy?
 
 One thing that may be a factor in my case is that my test webcam is very
 slow.  I am only getting one picture every 2 or 3 seconds when motion is
 detected.  I have framerate set to 2 fps.  Maybe motion is aware that my
 pics are too far apart in time and is deciding not to combine them into a
 movie.
 
 -Rob
 
 
 I should have added a caveat to my original response, I hadn't actually
 tried it, since my needs pointed me to a more feature full system.
 
 
 Looking at the 'gap' description, I wonder if you need to set it to '0' in
 order to get a movie?
 

You made me re-read the gap description, and I think the solution for me might 
actually be to increase the gap (although I will try zero as well).  Currently, 
each of my pictures is about 2 minutes apart due to slowness of my webcam.  
With the gap set at 60 seconds, each picture would be its own event so there 
would be no need to create a movie.  I will try this tonight.  Thanks for the 
response.

-Rob


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Re: 'motion' does not save movies, only still pics

2014-09-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/09/14 00:12, Rob Owens wrote:
 I tested 'motion' on Wheezy yesterday.  It detects motion and takes
 still shots, but it is not creating movies out of the still shots.
 
 I have set:
 
 # Use ffmpeg to encode mpeg movies in realtime (default: off) 
 ffmpeg_cap_new on
 
 and
 
 # Gap is the seconds of no motion detection that triggers the end of
 an event # An event is defined as a series of motion images taken
 within a short timeframe. # Recommended value is 60 seconds
 (Default). The value 0 is allowed and disables # events causing all
 Motion to be written to one single mpeg file and no pre_capture. gap
 60
 
 Can anybody confirm that movie output works on Wheezy?


Yes.


 
 One thing that may be a factor in my case is that my test webcam is
 very slow.  I am only getting one picture every 2 or 3 seconds when
 motion is detected.  I have framerate set to 2 fps.  Maybe motion is
 aware that my pics are too far apart in time and is deciding not to
 combine them into a movie.

Any clues in the logs?  'top' may help find any bottlenecks. Note that
an older box will have problems with high frequency high resolution
images - especially with USB  3. A work around that problem might be
any or all of:-
;reduce frequency of images
;reduce image resolution
;offload image processing to hardware

What sort of motion are you wanting to detect at 2 fps? A break-in by
Speedy Gonzales? ;p
Be careful or your motion directory will quickly fill with a huge amount
of pictures. I don't use the movie output version - though I've used it
in the past. I found it an unnecessary use of resources - it's trivial
to construct a movie from the relevant still images at a later date -
just ensure that you email those images off-site immediately after a
motion event is detected (if you're using motion for security purposes).


It may be relevant that while I do have the deb-multimedia.org
repository enabled on the Debian (Wheezy) systems that run motion, it's
pinned to give preference to debian repositories:-
$ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/multimedia.pref
Package: *
Pin: origin *.deb-multimedia.org
Pin-Priority: 200


 
 -Rob
 
 


Upstream documentation is excellent - apologies for not referencing it
earlier:-
http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome


Kind regards


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Re: 'motion' does not save movies, only still pics

2014-09-25 Thread Whit Hansell

On 09/25/2014 11:34 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 26/09/14 00:12, Rob Owens wrote:

I tested 'motion' on Wheezy yesterday.  It detects motion and takes
still shots, but it is not creating movies out of the still shots.

I have set:

# Use ffmpeg to encode mpeg movies in realtime (default: off)
ffmpeg_cap_new on

and

# Gap is the seconds of no motion detection that triggers the end of
an event # An event is defined as a series of motion images taken
within a short timeframe. # Recommended value is 60 seconds
(Default). The value 0 is allowed and disables # events causing all
Motion to be written to one single mpeg file and no pre_capture. gap
60

Can anybody confirm that movie output works on Wheezy?


Yes.



One thing that may be a factor in my case is that my test webcam is
very slow.  I am only getting one picture every 2 or 3 seconds when
motion is detected.  I have framerate set to 2 fps.  Maybe motion is
aware that my pics are too far apart in time and is deciding not to
combine them into a movie.

Any clues in the logs?  'top' may help find any bottlenecks. Note that
an older box will have problems with high frequency high resolution
images - especially with USB  3. A work around that problem might be
any or all of:-
;reduce frequency of images
;reduce image resolution
;offload image processing to hardware

What sort of motion are you wanting to detect at 2 fps? A break-in by
Speedy Gonzales? ;p
Be careful or your motion directory will quickly fill with a huge amount
of pictures. I don't use the movie output version - though I've used it
in the past. I found it an unnecessary use of resources - it's trivial
to construct a movie from the relevant still images at a later date -
just ensure that you email those images off-site immediately after a
motion event is detected (if you're using motion for security purposes).


It may be relevant that while I do have the deb-multimedia.org
repository enabled on the Debian (Wheezy) systems that run motion, it's
pinned to give preference to debian repositories:-
$ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/multimedia.pref
Package: *
Pin: origin *.deb-multimedia.org
Pin-Priority: 200



-Rob




Upstream documentation is excellent - apologies for not referencing it
earlier:-
http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome


Kind regards



Rob and Scott, et al..

Don't know if this will help but thot' I'd look into it myself so did a 
search and found


Check out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwDLkMPLTw0

This is part one of two parts.  HTH

Whit


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