Re: terminal true type fonts
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:26:11AM EDT, Jochen Schulz wrote: cga2000: [..] Well .. I'm not sure where anyone ever got the idea that fonts should look blurred. I mean if I buy a book from amazon and I get a blurred copy.. I send it back right away. For stuff that you glance at it may be ok, but where reading is concerned .. I wouldn't do it. Your eyes would desperately (and automatically) try to focus thus causing eyestrain etc. Sure, but in my opinion fonts on my system don't look blurred. Ok, I admit it. They are blurred, but very, very little. Only text in italics doesn't look really good, but you don't want to read much of that anyway (thanks slashdot for not using italics anymore!) and IIRC this doesn't look good with non-AA fonts either. And if your printouts looked as blocky as the fonts in your moz.png, I guess you would return it, too. I would be slightly annoyed at the publisher not showing more respect. But that's hardly relevant. Screen fonts are designed to make the most of the particular medium's limitations. Comparing printed documents with screen fonts gets you nowhere, IMHO. Couldn't agree more..! And this is precisely why I all but stopped using proportional fonts on a computer screen. Not worth the trouble. I only find them useful for print previews. Aah .. but then, I am not reading .. just checking the formatting. You wouldn't to read cyan text on black paper either. :) Hmm.. for reading code in bed, possibly..? :-) Thanks cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: terminal true type fonts
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 05:45:57AM EDT, Russell L. Harris wrote: Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wish there was a good font book available. I've done quite a bit of reading on fonts (and tweaking) but everything I have run into does not really do much to clarify the issues. Not sure there are many people who really understand them either. I have read a few docs and often got the feeling that their authors were just repeating stuff they had read elsewhere and that they didn't know what they were talking about. Have you seen the font books of Donald Knuth, author of TeX? They are (1) Computer Modern Typefaces, (2) The METAFONTbook, and (3) METAFONT: The Program. Thanks for helping me put two and two together. I should have thought of that. :-} Thanks cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: terminal true type fonts
cga2000: http://www.geocities.com/cga/pic00/ One that uses verdana for everything is in the moz.png file. That looks quite ok, but for me it's too small to be read easily. And if fonts are larger, I definitely prefer AA. What I like about verdana 8pt is that it ends up looking a lot like my preferred fixed-width font (terminus). see im00.png I know this font, I like it as well (although I preferred Neep when I used bitmap fonts in my terminals). BTW, there is a console-terminus package, which enables Terminus font on framebuffer consoles. Another thing that I like is its clean look. On my display at least, I never get this impression of dribbling that I have seen all too often with the Vera fonts. A little as if you had a hair or some fluff stuck in the nib of your fountain pen. The other thing that irritates me with the Vera fonts -- especially with smaller sizes, is the fact that in some renderings some glyphs look like they were drawn with varying pressure applied. Some lines appear to be darker than others. -- snip Here's an example: http://www.ubuntu.com/include/img/openoffice.png .. that may clarify the above. IMO the menus are acceptable, but the document shown is ugly. It may have to do with everything except the headlines being italics. On a sidenote, I have never gotten OOo to display usable fonts at all. Neither in the user interface, nor in the documents. Compare yourself: http://wasteland.homelinux.net/~jrschulz/gfx/fonts/oo.png http://wasteland.homelinux.net/~jrschulz/gfx/fonts/gtk.png I am not sure whether the ubuntu shot you have shown is more like oo.png or more like gtk.png. Your rendering of the Vera fonts, BTW looks rather different from what you usually see when you first fire up gnome etc. just after installing (of on live CD's such as ubuntu's..) .. so I assume you must have done quite a bit of tweaking. Yep. But it was only adjusting DPI settings in xorg.conf via DisplaySize and running 'dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config' a few times until I found settings I like. And Gtk applications read their font settings from a custom ~/.gtkrc-2.0, not via the myriads of settings daemons out there. I wish there was a good font book available. I've done quite a bit of reading on fonts (and tweaking) but everything I have run into does not really do much to clarify the issues. Not sure there are many people who really understand them either. I have read a few docs and often got the feeling that their authors were just repeating stuff they had read elsewhere and that they didn't know what they were talking about. [x] add me. :) Well .. I'm not sure where anyone ever got the idea that fonts should look blurred. I mean if I buy a book from amazon and I get a blurred copy.. I send it back right away. For stuff that you glance at it may be ok, but where reading is concerned .. I wouldn't do it. Your eyes would desperately (and automatically) try to focus thus causing eyestrain etc. Sure, but in my opinion fonts on my system don't look blurred. Ok, I admit it. They are blurred, but very, very little. Only text in italics doesn't look really good, but you don't want to read much of that anyway (thanks slashdot for not using italics anymore!) and IIRC this doesn't look good with non-AA fonts either. And if your printouts looked as blocky as the fonts in your moz.png, I guess you would return it, too. Comparing printed documents with screen fonts gets you nowhere, IMHO. You wouldn't to read cyan text on black paper either. :) You could take a look at the vim*.png files in the above directory. I've found this terminus font a pleasure to work with. Bitmap fonts... :) http://wasteland.homelinux.net/~jrschulz/gfx/fonts/vim-veramono.png (This is gvim, but my terminals look almost the same) Does this also apply to http://debris/~jrschulz/gfx/fonts/bitstream-linux.png? Sorry but I could not access this link for some reason. Some reason might be that I forgot to replace my internal hostname with its world-resolvable name. %-) Try this: http://wasteland.homelinux.net/~jrschulz/gfx/fonts/bitstream-linux.png J. -- Ultimately, the Millenium Dome is a spectacular monument of the doublethink of our times. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: terminal true type fonts
Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wish there was a good font book available. I've done quite a bit of reading on fonts (and tweaking) but everything I have run into does not really do much to clarify the issues. Not sure there are many people who really understand them either. I have read a few docs and often got the feeling that their authors were just repeating stuff they had read elsewhere and that they didn't know what they were talking about. Have you seen the font books of Donald Knuth, author of TeX? They are (1) Computer Modern Typefaces, (2) The METAFONTbook, and (3) METAFONT: The Program. These are part of a five-volume set -- Millennium Edition, which included The TeXbook and TeX: The Program -- which was published by Addison Wesley. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Russell L. Harris: Have you seen the font books of Donald Knuth, author of TeX? They are (1) Computer Modern Typefaces, (2) The METAFONTbook, and (3) METAFONT: The Program. No, but I am using Computer Modern this very moment as I am writing my diploma thesis (which I have to hand in on Tuesday, hrm, I should not read debian-user currently) with Latex. :) J. -- Looking into my eyes is the only way you'll know I'm telling the truth. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: terminal true type fonts
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 05:45:33AM EDT, Jochen Schulz wrote: [..] In my opinion, Bitstream on Linux beats them all. Only Tahoma on Windows (not shown) comes close for small font sizes. Verdana on Linux is quite ok, too. But it is too wide (and screen space is precious on my notebook) and it looks like there were holes in some lines (see the x character in verdana-linux). I have some old screenshots exemplifying different problems I ran into regarding fonts, terminals, CSS, unicode, .. in this directory: http://www.geocities.com/cga/pic00/ One that uses verdana for everything is in the moz.png file. Where proportional screen fonts are concerned this is about the best I have been able to achieve .. What I like about verdana 8pt is that it ends up looking a lot like my preferred fixed-width font (terminus). see im00.png .. or any of the vim*.png files. Another thing that I like is its clean look. On my display at least, I never get this impression of dribbling that I have seen all too often with the Vera fonts. A little as if you had a hair or some fluff stuck in the nib of your fountain pen. The other thing that irritates me with the Vera fonts -- especially with smaller sizes, is the fact that in some renderings some glyphs look like they were drawn with varying pressure applied. Some lines appear to be darker than others. Maybe you could compare the rendering of 'File' (File menu) in my mozilla screenshot with the rendering on your box .. it doesn't have to be mozilla.. practically any gtk app will have it. What I see is that with Vera sans the first 3 letters only have horizontal/vertical lines so the rendering is ok. The 'e' on the other hand looks blurred. Here's an example: http://www.ubuntu.com/include/img/openoffice.png .. that may clarify the above. Your rendering of the Vera fonts, BTW looks rather different from what you usually see when you first fire up gnome etc. just after installing (of on live CD's such as ubuntu's..) .. so I assume you must have done quite a bit of tweaking. Could be that X lets you do more in the way of tweaking than Windows does (?) Yes, but I guess that's also due to some patents that have to be worked around. I wish there was a good font book available. I've done quite a bit of reading on fonts (and tweaking) but everything I have run into does not really do much to clarify the issues. Not sure there are many people who really understand them either. I have read a few docs and often got the feeling that their authors were just repeating stuff they had read elsewhere and that they didn't know what they were talking about. :-) And of course different people prefer different styles. Some people don't like the blurred looks at all and prefer bitmap style fonts. Well .. I'm not sure where anyone ever got the idea that fonts should look blurred. I mean if I buy a book from amazon and I get a blurred copy.. I send it back right away. For stuff that you glance at it may be ok, but where reading is concerned .. I wouldn't do it. Your eyes would desperately (and automatically) try to focus thus causing eyestrain etc. I myself have hesitated a long time to switch over to a terminal emulator which can use TrueType fonts. But for some time now, the Bitstream Monospace font looks really beautiful when you have configured X's DPI settings correctlyand found the right answers to 'dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config'. You can see a small portion of it in the bistream-linux screenshot, only at a different size which doesn't like so condensed. You could take a look at the vim*.png files in the above directory. I've found this terminus font a pleasure to work with. But then I suppose it mostly depends on what you are looking for.. The way I have set up my fonts, Verdana 8 pts on my laptop with a display capable of roughly 116 dpi and no AA looks good to me. Larger fonts of course do not look so good. Yup, small fonts with AA tend to look less crisp. I am using Bitstream Sans at 8pt on a 14 1024x768 flat panel and it works quite well. But I have noticed some people like even smaller fonts, so it stays a matter of taste. What I don't like about Bitstream Vera is that some glyphs look like someone messed up before the ink had time to dry. Does this also apply to http://debris/~jrschulz/gfx/fonts/bitstream-linux.png? Sorry but I could not access this link for some reason. Host not found. Thanks cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: terminal true type fonts
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:46:02 +0200 T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you mean that you realized that you've given the wrong font name? Then give it the right one, like this: aterm -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Aloha there. I'm not 100% sure of where lies my problem, but I'd appreciate if you give me the output of $ xlsfonts | grep comic on your machine. I still get: __ aterm: can't load font -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -- Howerver this: _ $ aterm -fn -unknown-comicsansms-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific - works, but still double spaced. -- Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion! PGP:0xE6359031 ICQ:32812963 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: terminal true type fonts
cga2000: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 05:35:53PM EDT, Jochen Schulz wrote: Agreed. Although one should note that the MS fonts look horrible when used with fontconfig's anti-aliasing and hinting. This would probably look a lot better on Windows. I use verdana both in gnu/linux and win98 and I find that the result is much better in the former than the latter. (!) That's for sure. Win98 does no anti-aliasing or hinting at all (at least in the UI). Everything looks like a bitmap font. This is even true for WinXP if you don't have ClearType enabled. I have made some more screenshots: http://wasteland.homelinux.net/~jrschulz/gfx/fonts/ (Font sizes are not the same on Windows as on Linux since my Windows box has a larger display with higher resolution. And the pictures will probably look different on your display than on mine, but well.) In my opinion, Bitstream on Linux beats them all. Only Tahoma on Windows (not shown) comes close for small font sizes. Verdana on Linux is quite ok, too. But it is too wide (and screen space is precious on my notebook) and it looks like there were holes in some lines (see the x character in verdana-linux). Could be that X lets you do more in the way of tweaking than Windows does (?) Yes, but I guess that's also due to some patents that have to be worked around. And of course different people prefer different styles. Some people don't like the blurred looks at all and prefer bitmap style fonts. I myself have hesitated a long time to switch over to a terminal emulator which can use TrueType fonts. But for some time now, the Bitstream Monospace font looks really beautiful when you have configured X's DPI settings correctlyand found the right answers to 'dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config'. You can see a small portion of it in the bistream-linux screenshot, only at a different size which doesn't like so condensed. But then I suppose it mostly depends on what you are looking for.. The way I have set up my fonts, Verdana 8 pts on my laptop with a display capable of roughly 116 dpi and no AA looks good to me. Larger fonts of course do not look so good. Yup, small fonts with AA tend to look less crisp. I am using Bitstream Sans at 8pt on a 14 1024x768 flat panel and it works quite well. But I have noticed some people like even smaller fonts, so it stays a matter of taste. What I don't like about Bitstream Vera is that some glyphs look like someone messed up before the ink had time to dry. Does this also apply to http://debris/~jrschulz/gfx/fonts/bitstream-linux.png? J. -- Thy lyrics in pop songs seem to describe my life uncannily accurately. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: terminal true type fonts
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:11:03 +0200, Dimitar Vukman wrote: I'm not 100% sure of where lies my problem, but I'd appreciate if you give me the output of $ xlsfonts | grep comic on your machine. I still get: __ aterm: can't load font -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -- Howerver this: _ $ aterm -fn -unknown-comicsansms-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific - works, but still double spaced. $ xlsfonts | grep comic -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso10646-1 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-10 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-13 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-14 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-15 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-3 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-4 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-5 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-7 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-9 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-koi8-r -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-koi8-u -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-microsoft-cp1251 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso10646-1 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-10 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-13 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-14 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-15 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-2 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-3 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-4 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-5 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-7 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-9 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-koi8-r -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-koi8-u -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-microsoft-cp1251 $ rxvt -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* The font list is same as your, just that I don't have the unknown-comicsansms. As I said, the above rxvt command works for me. Have you give it a try? You might consider using another font entirely, since it show up as double spaced to me as well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: terminal true type fonts
The font list is same as your, just that I don't have the unknown-comicsansms. As I said, the above rxvt command works for me. Have you give it a try? Here's mine, notice the difference. I wonder how come it's not the same. $ xlsfonts | grep comic -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -unknown-comicsansms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -- Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion! PGP:0xE6359031 ICQ:32812963 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: terminal true type fonts
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:18:57 +0200, Dimitar Vukman wrote: Here's mine, notice the difference. I wonder how come it's not the same. The only different is the last 2 parts, which depend on locale. Here are mine: en_US ISO-8859-1 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 ja_JP.EUC-JP EUC-JP ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8 zh_CN GB2312 zh_CN.UTF-8 UTF-8 zh_HK.UTF-8 UTF-8 zh_TW Big5 Check your /etc/locale.gen for yours. I'd not consider our lists are different. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dimitar Vukman: I'd like to use M$ Comic Sans font in aterm. I am aware that you solved this already and I don't mean to offend you, but I have to say: this is an absolutely disgusting idea. Really, I mean it. Oh my $deity. I can't tell how much I would hate this. But wait, I can: http://wasteland.homelinux.net/~jrschulz/gfx/terminal-comic.png OMG!!1! J. (sorry) -- When driving at night I find the headlights of oncoming vehicles very attractive. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:06:07 +0200 Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am aware that you solved this already and I don't mean to offend you, but I have to say: this is an absolutely disgusting idea. Really, I mean it. Oh my $deity. I can't tell how much I would hate this. But wait, I can: http://wasteland.homelinux.net/~jrschulz/gfx/terminal-comic.png Naah :) I'm completely with you. :) Still have strange things to fix with spacing, but anyways, nice shot. Aloha. -- Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion! PGP:0xE6359031 ICQ:32812963 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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[please quote appropriately next time] On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:32:21 +0200, Dimitar Vukman wrote: --- $ aterm -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 aterm: can't load font -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 --- what's the output of the following, after restarting X? $ xlsfonts | grep comic $ xlsfonts | grep comic -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 Yes I can see the problem. Ideas? Did you mean that you realized that you've given the wrong font name? Then give it the right one, like this: aterm -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* I don't have aterm, but the following works for me: rxvt -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* HTH tong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:06:07AM EDT, Jochen Schulz wrote: Dimitar Vukman: I'd like to use M$ Comic Sans font in aterm. I am aware that you solved this already and I don't mean to offend you, but I have to say: this is an absolutely disgusting idea. Really, I mean it. Oh my $deity. I can't tell how much I would hate this. But wait, I can: http://wasteland.homelinux.net/~jrschulz/gfx/terminal-comic.png How do you do that? I manage to get the comic sans font to display alright but it's double-spaced. Version of X .. aterm ..? Or did you convert the original proportional font to fixed? Thanks cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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cga2000: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:06:07AM EDT, Jochen Schulz wrote: can: http://wasteland.homelinux.net/~jrschulz/gfx/terminal-comic.png How do you do that? I was surprised myself that this worked. Earlier attempts of using a proportional font in a(nother) terminal emulator looked even worse. I manage to get the comic sans font to display alright but it's double-spaced. Version of X .. aterm ..? It's not an aterm but xfce4-terminal. This terminal appears to do some magic I don't want to know about. :) J. -- At night I go to the kitchen; specifically, the knife drawer. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: terminal true type fonts
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 04:56:48PM EDT, Jochen Schulz wrote: cga2000: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:06:07AM EDT, Jochen Schulz wrote: can: http://wasteland.homelinux.net/~jrschulz/gfx/terminal-comic.png How do you do that? I was surprised myself that this worked. Earlier attempts of using a proportional font in a(nother) terminal emulator looked even worse. I manage to get the comic sans font to display alright but it's double-spaced. Version of X .. aterm ..? It's not an aterm but xfce4-terminal. This terminal appears to do some magic I don't want to know about. :) LOL ... :-O Yeah .. looks like it converts the font on the fly so-to-speak. I mean .. it's nice to impress your friends and stuff .. but even in your improved version .. I wouldn't want to use that on a daily basis. Thanks cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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cga2000: I mean .. it's nice to impress your friends and stuff .. but even in your improved version .. I wouldn't want to use that on a daily basis. Agreed. Although one should note that the MS fonts look horrible when used with fontconfig's anti-aliasing and hinting. This would probably look a lot better on Windows. It's the other way round with the Bitstream Vera font family (although not that bad). J. -- In the west we kill people like chickens. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: terminal true type fonts
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 05:35:53PM EDT, Jochen Schulz wrote: cga2000: I mean .. it's nice to impress your friends and stuff .. but even in your improved version .. I wouldn't want to use that on a daily basis. Agreed. Although one should note that the MS fonts look horrible when used with fontconfig's anti-aliasing and hinting. This would probably look a lot better on Windows. I use verdana both in gnu/linux and win98 and I find that the result is much better in the former than the latter. (!) Could be that X lets you do more in the way of tweaking than Windows does (?) Or do more recent versions of Windows do a better job of displaying fonts? But then I suppose it mostly depends on what you are looking for.. The way I have set up my fonts, Verdana 8 pts on my laptop with a display capable of roughly 116 dpi and no AA looks good to me. Larger fonts of course do not look so good. It's the other way round with the Bitstream Vera font family (although not that bad). What I don't like about Bitstream Vera is that some glyphs look like someone messed up before the ink had time to dry. Thanks cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Aloha! I'd like to use M$ Comic Sans font in aterm. I've tried a few things that came to my mind, but none worked. I've tried adding path to xfs's confing, getting xfstt up and running. I guess that xfontsel or gtkfontsel should pick up all fonts avaliable and since I haven't seen M$ fonts anywhere I guess it doesen't work this way. Of course, I've installed M$ fonts and can use them in ie openoffice. So, what is needed to get those fonts working in terminal? Thanks, Aloha and Namaste :) -- Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion! PGP:0xE6359031 ICQ:32812963 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 10:16:40AM EDT, Dimitar Vukman wrote: Aloha! I'd like to use M$ Comic Sans font in aterm. I've tried a few things that came to my mind, but none worked. I've tried adding path to xfs's confing, getting xfstt up and running. I guess that xfontsel or gtkfontsel should pick up all fonts avaliable and since I haven't seen M$ fonts anywhere I guess it doesen't work this way. Of course, I've installed M$ fonts and can use them in ie openoffice. So, what is needed to get those fonts working in terminal? Did you try: $ aterm -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 .. works here .. Don't know why xfontsel doesn't find them. Aren't they listed when you issue a: $ xlsfonts | grep comic How did you install them? Did you install the msttcorefonts package? I don't remember having to do anything else to have X recognize them. Thanks cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Aloha! $ aterm -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 .. works here .. Not here :) [09:56 PM Sun Aug [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ aterm -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 aterm: can't load font -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 Aren't they listed when you issue a: $ xlsfonts | grep comic no How did you install them? I followed: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/font_howto/Font-HOWTO/html/Font-HOWTO/x169.html Did you install the msttcorefonts package? yeah Don't know why it dosent work. You mean all you did was install msttcorefonts? -- Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion! PGP:0xE6359031 ICQ:32812963 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:49:57 +0200, Dimitar Vukman wrote: Aren't they listed when you issue a: $ xlsfonts | grep comic no How did you install them? I followed: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/font_howto/Font-HOWTO/html/Font-HOWTO/x169.html Did you install the msttcorefonts package? yeah Don't know why it dosent work. You mean all you did was install msttcorefonts? Did you restart X after installing the msttcorefonts package? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Did you restart X after installing the msttcorefonts package? Thanks! You are genious! :)) I always did /etc/init.d/xfs restart and haven't even thought of reseting X. Muchos gracias :) Aloha and Namaste! -- Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion! PGP:0xE6359031 ICQ:32812963 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Huh, perhaps not yet. fontsel finds it, but it doesent seem to be there. --- $ aterm -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 aterm: can't load font -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 --- More digging. -- Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion! PGP:0xE6359031 ICQ:32812963 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 04:49:57PM EDT, Dimitar Vukman wrote: Aloha! $ aterm -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 .. works here .. Not here :) [09:56 PM Sun Aug [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ aterm -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 aterm: can't load font -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 Aren't they listed when you issue a: $ xlsfonts | grep comic no How did you install them? I followed: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/font_howto/Font-HOWTO/html/Font-HOWTO/x169.html I installed the msttcorefonts package over a year ago but I don't remember having to read a HOWTO or doing anything manually. I _think_ all I had to was an apt-get install msttcorefonts .. bounced my X session .. done. Did you do that or did you copy the font over from a Windows box? Did you install the msttcorefonts package? yeah Don't know why it dosent work. You mean all you did was install msttcorefonts? .. as far as I can remember. I am not sure. Thanks cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:19:02 -0400 cga2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I _think_ all I had to was an apt-get install msttcorefonts .. bounced my X session .. done. Did you do that or did you copy the font over from a Windows box? Yeah I did that long time ago. However fontsel did not pick them up, so I thought there was more to it and went on to manually add fonts to xfs config. I've even purged and installed again msttcorefonts. Now it says comic sans ms is not avaliable, in gtkfontsel. I haven't got a clue, I'll dig some more and we'll see. Aloha! -- Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion! PGP:0xE6359031 ICQ:32812963 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 00:21:19 +0200, Dimitar Vukman wrote: Huh, perhaps not yet. fontsel finds it, but it doesent seem to be there. --- $ aterm -fn -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 aterm: can't load font -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal-*-0-0-0-0-*-0-*-1 --- what's the output of the following, after restarting X? $ xlsfonts | grep comic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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what's the output of the following, after restarting X? $ xlsfonts | grep comic $ xlsfonts | grep comic -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -microsoft-comic sans ms-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-ascii-0 -unknown-comicsansms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific -unknown-comicsansms-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific Yes I can see the problem. Ideas? -- Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion! PGP:0xE6359031 ICQ:32812963 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: True-type fonts from Windows
On Tuesday 20 January 2004 12:25 pm, Ryan Mackay wrote: # apt-get install msttcorefonts I found this didnt install xfstt, just placed the fonts in the right place and did what it had to do to make them usable. If it isnt workin for ya try $ apt-get install xfstt $ /etc/init.d/xfstt restart And add this line in the Files section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 FontPathunix/:7101 XFree86 has its own font handling built in, so you shouldn't need to install xfs-xtt for that reason. Just add this font path FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType to XF86Config-4 I think antialiasing may require access to the actual font files as well -- meaning you need to have that defoma font path -- just a font server by itself isn't enough. Warren -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Can these be installed in Debian? Open Office works decently in Hebrew in Windows, but not in Linux. I have 1.10 on both and it should be the same code. It might be the availability of fonts. Dagesh, has its problems through Wine, but can access the Windows TTF fonts and print them under CUPS so these fonts ought to be installable! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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David Baron wrote: Can these be installed in Debian? Open Office works decently in Hebrew in Windows, but not in Linux. I have 1.10 on both and it should be the same code. It might be the availability of fonts. Dagesh, has its problems through Wine, but can access the Windows TTF fonts and print them under CUPS so these fonts ought to be installable! # apt-get install msttcorefonts -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: True-type fonts from Windows
David Baron wrote: # apt-get install msttcorefonts I found this didnt install xfstt, just placed the fonts in the right place and did what it had to do to make them usable. If it isnt workin for ya try $ apt-get install xfstt $ /etc/init.d/xfstt restart And add this line in the Files section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 FontPathunix/:7101 HTH -- Cheers, rinmak [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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# apt-get install msttcorefonts -Roberto Make sure you have `contrib` in your sources.list file. --M. Kirchhoff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Roberto Sanchez wrote: David Baron wrote: Can these be installed in Debian? Open Office works decently in Hebrew in Windows, but not in Linux. I have 1.10 on both and it should be the same code. It might be the availability of fonts. Dagesh, has its problems through Wine, but can access the Windows TTF fonts and print them under CUPS so these fonts ought to be installable! # apt-get install msttcorefonts you can also apt-get culmus. the hebrew works very good for me (sid, oo1.1). -Roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: RES: problemas com true type fonts
Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: Hm, documentacão acho que está toda em Inglês. Você pode tentar usar o dfontmgr (como superusuário), que sendo gráfico talvez lhe seja mais fácil. Leandro, onde acho esse 'dfontmgr'? Procurei aqui, mas sem sucesso. O 'defoma' já está instalado. Vale ressaltar: uso o Woody. []'s Ivo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usuário Linux 288982, Debian-br 630.
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On Fri, 09 May 2003 01:40:29 -0300, Ivo Santos Cavalcante Carneiro wrote: Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: Hm, documentacão acho que está toda em Inglês. Você pode tentar usar o dfontmgr (como superusuário), que sendo gráfico talvez lhe seja mais fácil. Leandro, onde acho esse 'dfontmgr'? Procurei aqui, mas sem sucesso. O 'defoma' já está instalado. Vale ressaltar: uso o Woody. Talvez você tenha de usar a fixacão de versões do apt para usar o pacote da testing. No caso, veja o manual COMO FAZER do apt, secão sobre como manter um sistema com distribuicão mista... -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra+41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ Lausanne, Vaud, Suisse+41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Brasil+55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lgcdutra/
Re: RES: problemas com true type fonts
Em Sex, 2003-05-09 às 07:25, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra escreveu: On Fri, 09 May 2003 01:40:29 -0300, Ivo Santos Cavalcante Carneiro wrote: Leandro, onde acho esse 'dfontmgr'? Procurei aqui, mas sem sucesso. O 'defoma' já está instalado. Vale ressaltar: uso o Woody. Talvez você tenha de usar a fixacão de versões do apt para usar o pacote da testing. No caso, veja o manual COMO FAZER do apt, secão sobre como manter um sistema com distribuicão mista... Nao precisa disso tudo o dfontmgr ja esta na stable sim: stable dfontmgr 0.11.0 (38.9k) GUI frontend for defoma, DEbian FOnt MAnager. apt-get install dfontmgr -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra+41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ Lausanne, Vaud, Suisse+41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Brasil+55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lgcdutra/ -- Rodrigo M. Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Esta é uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente
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On Fri, 09 May 2003 12:30:19 -0300, Rodrigo M. Araujo wrote: Nao precisa disso tudo o dfontmgr ja esta na stable sim: stable dfontmgr 0.11.0 (38.9k) GUI frontend for defoma, DEbian FOnt MAnager. Legal, qual o comando (e opcões) que dá essa saÃda? -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra+41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ Lausanne, Vaud, Suisse+41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Brasil+55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lgcdutra/
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On Wed, 07 May 2003 20:38:13 -0300, Rodrigo M. Araujo wrote: Em Ter, 2003-05-06 à s 05:28, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra escreveu: Por isso mesmo é que existe o defoma... Ja vi que o defoma existe para isso e tentei durante algum tempo achara alguma documentacao boa sobre como o defoma funciona e como brincar com ele (ele hj gerencia, eu acho, minhas fontes tt aqui, mas gracas aos mantedores dos pacotes de fontes tt). Se alguem puder me indicar algo eu vou gostar bastante! :) Hm, documentacão acho que está toda em Inglês. Você pode tentar usar o dfontmgr (como superusuário), que sendo gráfico talvez lhe seja mais fácil. Você sabe que pode obter ajuda com man defoma, defoma --help e as outras páginas de manual citadas na secão SEE ALSO? Se você tiver problemas especÃficos talvez alguém mais possa ajudar. -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra+41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ Lausanne, Vaud, Suisse+41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Brasil+55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lgcdutra/
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Em Qui, 2003-05-08 à s 06:22, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra escreveu: On Wed, 07 May 2003 20:38:13 -0300, Rodrigo M. Araujo wrote: Hm, documentacão acho que está toda em Inglês. Você pode tentar usar o dfontmgr (como superusuário), que sendo gráfico talvez lhe seja mais fácil. Nao conhecia esse pacote, muito bom! Você sabe que pode obter ajuda com man defoma, defoma --help e as outras páginas de manual citadas na secão SEE ALSO? Olhei isso agora, melhoraram bastente essa documentacao, pois ja tinha tentado isso na epoca que me interessei e era bem diferente a pagina de manual que encontrei na epoca. Agora sim uma documentacao boa de se aprender algo. Se você tiver problemas especÃficos talvez alguém mais possa ajudar. Por enquanto nao, quando tiver mais tempo livre vou mecher mais com isso, por enquanto ja sei onde procurar o que quero, so me falta o tempo agora! []s -- Rodrigo M. Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Esta é uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente
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Em Ter, 2003-05-06 às 05:28, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra escreveu: On Tue, 06 May 2003 01:34:37 -0300, Ivo Santos Cavalcante Carneiro wrote: Por isso mesmo é que existe o defoma... Ja vi que o defoma existe para isso e tentei durante algum tempo achara alguma documentacao boa sobre como o defoma funciona e como brincar com ele (ele hj gerencia, eu acho, minhas fontes tt aqui, mas gracas aos mantedores dos pacotes de fontes tt). Se alguem puder me indicar algo eu vou gostar bastante! :) []s -- Rodrigo M. Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Esta é uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente
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Gilberto Garcia Jr. wrote: Alterei a linha na seção Files do seu /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, claudio. nao sei o que acontece.. nenhum aplicativo reconheceu as fontes. vou fazer o teste com uma fonte apenas e ver o que acontece. depois reporto para vcs. mas em teoria fazendo isso deveria funcionar neh? Depende, nem todos os aplicativos usam o X para gerenciar fontes TrueType. O Mozilla, por exemplo, faz tudo sozinho. Que aplicativos não estão reconhecendo as fontes? A propósito, a dica do Cláudio é importante: o 'mkttfdir' só instala fontes com páginas de caracter ISO8859-1, portanto, se você quiser ver instalar TODAS as fontes, independenmente desse detalhe, digite 'mkttfdir -e', no diretório das fontes. Para ver quais fontes sofrem desse problema, digite 'mkttfdir -w'. Mais informações: 'man mkttfdir'. []'s Ivo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usuário Linux 288982, Debian-br 630.
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On Tue, 06 May 2003 01:34:37 -0300, Ivo Santos Cavalcante Carneiro wrote: Depende, nem todos os aplicativos usam o X para gerenciar fontes TrueType. O Mozilla, por exemplo, faz tudo sozinho. Que aplicativos não estão reconhecendo as fontes? Por isso mesmo é que existe o defoma... -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra+41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ Lausanne, Vaud, Suisse+41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Brasil+55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lgcdutra/
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On Mon, 5 May 2003 13:08:39 -0300 Gilberto Garcia Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alterei a linha na seção Files do seu /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, claudio. nao sei o que acontece.. nenhum aplicativo reconheceu as fontes. vou fazer o teste com uma fonte apenas e ver o que acontece. depois reporto para vcs. mas em teoria fazendo isso deveria funcionar neh? Você tem que instalar também o pacote xfstt, TrueType Font Server for X11. -- [ ]'s ***.''`. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * : :' : * GNU/Linux Debian * `. `'` *** `- Gnupg ID 0x01186BE1 Key fingerprint =3D F17E 75C6 CE00 0E09 F63B 71B0 A0D2 FAD9 0118 6BE1 As vezes mando filmar algumas cenas fora de foco. E o unico jeito de ganhar o premio de melhor filme estrangeiro. -- Billy Wilder
problemas com true type fonts
Pessoal, peguei o how to do lpd, segui a risca, mas nao consigo fazer o x e os aplicativos entenderem as fontes. Assim, instalei o xfs, e dei os comandos para criar os arquivos fonts.scale e fonts.dir. mas nao sei como tornar as fontes disponiveis para o x. alguem poderia dar uma luz? obrigado --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.473 / Virus Database: 271 - Release Date: 17/04/03
Re: problemas com true type fonts
On Mon, 05 May 2003 10:17:18 -0300, Gilberto Garcia Jr. wrote: Pessoal, peguei o how to do lpd, segui a risca, mas nao consigo fazer o x e os aplicativos entenderem as fontes. Assim, instalei o xfs, e dei os comandos para criar os arquivos fonts.scale e fonts.dir. mas nao sei como tornar as fontes disponiveis para o x. Use o defoma para registrar as fontes. -- _ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra+41 (21) 648 11 34 / \ Lausanne, Vaud, Suisse+41 (78) 778 11 34 \ / Brasil+55 (11) 5686 2219 / \ http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/lgcdutra/
Re: problemas com true type fonts
Em Mon, 5 May 2003 10:17:18 -0300 Gilberto Garcia Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] disse que: Pessoal, peguei o how to do lpd, segui a risca, mas nao consigo fazer o x e os aplicativos entenderem as fontes. Assim, instalei o xfs, e dei os comandos para criar os arquivos fonts.scale e fonts.dir. mas nao sei como tornar as fontes disponiveis para o x. alguem poderia dar uma luz? você avisou o X11 para usá-las? Deve haver uma linha tipo FontPath/usr/share/fonts/truetype na seção Files do seu /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Abraço Cláudio P.S. não esqueça de ver os parâmtros do mkttfdir, se ocorre algum problema na fonte ele simplesmente não a adiciona...
RES: problemas com true type fonts
Alterei a linha na seção Files do seu /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, claudio. nao sei o que acontece.. nenhum aplicativo reconheceu as fontes. vou fazer o teste com uma fonte apenas e ver o que acontece. depois reporto para vcs. mas em teoria fazendo isso deveria funcionar neh? obrigado -Mensagem original- De: Cláudio Max [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: segunda-feira, 5 de maio de 2003 12:09 Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Assunto: Re: problemas com true type fonts Em Mon, 5 May 2003 10:17:18 -0300 Gilberto Garcia Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] disse que: Pessoal, peguei o how to do lpd, segui a risca, mas nao consigo fazer o x e os aplicativos entenderem as fontes. Assim, instalei o xfs, e dei os comandos para criar os arquivos fonts.scale e fonts.dir. mas nao sei como tornar as fontes disponiveis para o x. alguem poderia dar uma luz? você avisou o X11 para usá-las? Deve haver uma linha tipo FontPath/usr/share/fonts/truetype na seção Files do seu /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Abraço Cláudio P.S. não esqueça de ver os parâmtros do mkttfdir, se ocorre algum problema na fonte ele simplesmente não a adiciona... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.473 / Virus Database: 271 - Release Date: 17/04/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.473 / Virus Database: 271 - Release Date: 17/04/03
Re: RES: problemas com true type fonts
Em Mon, May 05, 2003 at 01:08:39PM -0300, Gilberto Garcia Jr. escreveu: Alterei a linha na seção Files do seu /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, claudio. nao sei o que acontece.. nenhum aplicativo reconheceu as fontes. vou fazer o teste com uma fonte apenas e ver o que acontece. depois reporto para vcs. mas em teoria fazendo isso deveria funcionar neh? obrigado Eu uso o seguinte: baixo o programa ttmkfdir # apt-get install ttmkfdir Depois vou ao meu diretório com as fontes roubadas do ruindows, que é, geralmente, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF (eu uso esse caminho para não conflitar com os pacotes Debian, que estão em /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType) e dou os seguintes comandos: # cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF # ttmkfdir fonts.dir # mkfontdir -e /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings Depois adiciono o caminho (no meu caso, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF) ao FontPath, reinicio o X... e-pronto! Mozilla/GNOME/KDE/o-que-quer-que-seja com fontes TrueType. Um caveat: não sei por que raios, quando o pacote 'mozilla-xft' está instalado, o Mozilla parece que não vê as fontes TrueType instaladas. Portanto, extirpe esse pacote. Ou, caso alguém da lista tenha uma sugestão melhor... Esse ttmkfdir funciona comigo desde o XFree86 4.0.x, ou seja, há um bom tempo, e ainda funciona com o XFree86 do debian-sid. Só para confirmar que suas fontes novas foram adicionadas, use o comando xfontsel num terminal X. -- José de Paula Rodrigues Neto Assis Linux User #175920 BrasÃlia - DF - Brasil Usuário Debian #574
Re: Mozilla (true type fonts)
E porque o Konqueror por exemplo não precisa de todas estas configurações para apresentar as paginas que fogem do padrão de uma maneira pelo menos razoavel??? Existe algum outro tipo de browser tipo o Konqueror? Qual o browser mais usado no WindowMaker ???
Re: Mozilla (true type fonts)
Está nos registros oficiais que em Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:18:30 -0300 Luiz Fernando Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] manifestou-se nestas palavras: E porque o Konqueror por exemplo não precisa de todas estas configurações para apresentar as paginas que fogem do padrão de uma maneira pelo menos razoavel??? ? fugir ? razoável ? Existe algum outro tipo de browser tipo o Konqueror? ? ? Qual o browser mais usado no WindowMaker ??? ??? Onde o WindowMaker se encaixa nessa história ??? Vixe, ordene melhor as perguntas 8-P Não conheço o Konqueror. Se ele faz suavização das fontes mesmo que haja uma Verdana (por exemplo) não suavizada no sistema, ele deve substituir por outra suavizada. Ele pode fazer isso automaticamente fazendo trocas de fontes como aquelas gambiarras pro Mozilla apontadas naquela thread... Para mim o Mozilla (que uso desde os m18) sempre foi razoável... Hmmm... Uso o Galeon há um tempo (baseado Gecko)! Viva o Lagarto! Abraços, Luis Alberto. -- Luis Alberto Garcia Cipriano - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#30169722 - lagc no canal #debian-br em irc.debian.org SÃtio e blogue - http://www.sovacodecobra.com.br/luisalberto/ Músico amador Tradutor solidário Jornalista voluntário Programador pós-moderno CIPSGA - Software Livre no Brasil - http://www.cipsga.org.br Projeto Debian-BR - http://www.debian-br.org
Mozilla (true type fonts)
Como configuro o Mozilla p/ ele apresentar as fontes parecidas com o Internet Explorer (urgh!!!) ??? já instalei o servidor de fontes true type... e copiei as fontes que tinha no Windows 2000 pra o diretório onde as fontes ficam no Linux (me esqueci agora onde é!!!) Na confiruração do Mozilla eu consigo usar as fontes intaladas... mas não sei quais as fontes usar... pois não tenho quase nenhuma fonte com os nomes sugeridos pelo Mozilla!!! Não sei se consegui me expressar direito!!! :p Valeu!!!
Re: Mozilla (true type fonts)
* Luiz Fernando Andrade ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Como configuro o Mozilla p/ ele apresentar as fontes parecidas com o Internet Explorer (urgh!!!) ??? já instalei o servidor de fontes true type... e copiei as fontes que tinha no Windows 2000 pra o diretório onde as fontes ficam no Linux (me esqueci agora onde é!!!) Isso e um ato ilegal! Veja a resposta da M$ a uma consulta nossa: De: Simon Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Márcio de Araújo Benedito [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: RE: legal question Data: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:36:41 -0800 Hi, I'm not permitted to offer legal advice. However, I'm sure the Windows end user license agreement does not allow this. The 'link' I think you're talking about linked to a free package of 'Web fonts', that Microsoft made available up until Augst of last year. Although some of these Web fonts also shipped with Windows, Windows itself includes many more fonts. Na confiruração do Mozilla eu consigo usar as fontes intaladas... mas não sei quais as fontes usar... pois não tenho quase nenhuma fonte com os nomes sugeridos pelo Mozilla!!! Voce deve setar o mozilla para usar as fontes do documento. Assim as fontes truetype serao chamadas, desde que o modulo freetype esteja carregado, o xfstt esteja instalado, o parametro FontPath unix/:7101 tenha sido adicionado ao /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 e as fontes truetype estejam dentro do diretorio /usr/share/fonts/truetype. Não sei se consegui me expressar direito!!! :p Nao, foi muito confuso... Valeu!!! []'s -- _ Esta mensagem foi certificada como livre de Windows por Debian GNU/Linux. _ / Lei da experiencia: nao vai funcionar. \ | | \ -- Joseph Murphy/ - \ \ .--. |o_o | |:_/ | // \ \ (| | ) /'\_ _/`\ \___)=(___/
Re: Mozilla (true type fonts)
Está nos registros oficiais que em Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:05:58 -0300 Marcio de Araujo Benedito [EMAIL PROTECTED] manifestou-se nestas palavras: * Luiz Fernando Andrade ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Como configuro o Mozilla p/ ele apresentar as fontes parecidas com o Internet Explorer (urgh!!!) ??? ARGH!!! X-P já instalei o servidor de fontes true type... e copiei as fontes que tinha no Windows 2000 pra o diretório onde as fontes ficam no Linux (me esqueci agora onde é!!!) ARGH 2!!! Isso e um ato ilegal! Veja a resposta da M$ a uma consulta nossa: ... (abre parênteses subversivo... Hmmm... naquele notebook do meu irmão que instalei o debian unstable via knoppix, instalei o gnome2.2 e o famoso fontilus. instalei o pacote mozilla-xft e alguns sÃtios ainda não ficavam bem... Então, arrastei todas as fontes via nautilus lá da partição NTFS do Windows Xuxa Park para o fonts:/// no mesmo nautilus, e *Ãncrivel*: Os sÃtios ficaram com a cara do Internet Exploder... fecha parênteses subversivo...) Hmmm, mas o alerta do Marcio vale mesmo. Tem como contornar, apesar de ser um pouco trabalhoso, sem ter que violar as benditas licenças... Siga essa thread para conhecer o caminho das pedras: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200302/msg01180.html Boa Sorte! Abraços, Luis Alberto. -- Luis Alberto Garcia Cipriano - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#30169722 - lagc no canal #debian-br em irc.debian.org SÃtio e blogue - http://www.sovacodecobra.com.br/luisalberto/ Músico amador Tradutor solidário Jornalista voluntário Programador pós-moderno CIPSGA - Software Livre no Brasil - http://www.cipsga.org.br Projeto Debian-BR - http://www.debian-br.org
Printing True Type Fonts
Hello, I have been trying to solve this problem for few days.. I cannot print anything with True Type Fonts. I have cups installed with gs and gs-esp. I have tried to add true type fonts to Fontmap in gs using xfstt, with no avail. I even copied the Fontmap from a mandrake partition to Debian's with no luck. I use kde by the way. and it works under Mandrake. any help is greatly appreciated. Ayman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true type fonts
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 23:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to setup truetype fonts on my box. I did find good doc when I searched on google and did follow the instructions to the dot. save for the simple fact that /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype is a link to /usr/share/fints/ttfonts I am not sure as to how to verify if all the fonts are working. xset q shows /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts so I guess it there in the path. and /XF86Config-4 does have /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts as the first line in the fontpath But how do I verfiy if the applications are are actually able use these fonts. I did not check the list of fonts before installing the ttf fonts from Windows 98 fonts dir, so I am cannot compare to know what was there and what is there now. Hi, are you referring to this: http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html ? There's a lot of stuff there about adding your own fonts and stuff but all I did was install msttcorefonts and xfs. Then add a couple lines to /etc/X11/fs/config so that the 'catalogue' section looks something like: ... catalogue = /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID, /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType ... then restart xfs. The new fonts should appear as available in any font choice dialogue such as to configure mozilla or konqueror. Another trivial question how to do I universal copy paste enabled in KDE that is copying pasting between different applications. Like I try to copy the urls from konquerer to mozilla or i copy a message that i recieved in yahoo messenger to kword and stuff. I just leftclick highlight / middleclick paste. It doesn't work perfectly all the time in every application though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true type fonts
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 03:22 -0500, Michael Waters wrote: Hi, are you referring to this: http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html ? There's a lot of stuff there about adding your own fonts and stuff but all I did was install msttcorefonts and xfs. Then add a couple lines to /etc/X11/fs/config so that the 'catalogue' section looks something like: ... ...oops I forgot - if you install xfs, you'll need to edit the Files section of XF86Config-4. Here's an example: Section Files FontPathunix/:7100 # local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi EndSection actually, it'll probably tell you what to do when you install it. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true type fonts
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 03:22:36AM -0500, Michael Waters wrote: On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 23:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to setup truetype fonts on my box. I did find good doc when I searched on google and did follow the instructions to the dot. save for the simple fact that /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype is a link to /usr/share/fints/ttfonts I am not sure as to how to verify if all the fonts are working. xset q shows /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts so I guess it there in the path. and /XF86Config-4 does have /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts as the first line in the fontpath Hi, are you referring to this: http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html ? There's a lot of stuff there about adding your own fonts and stuff but all I did was install msttcorefonts and xfs. Then add a couple lines to /etc/X11/fs/config so that the 'catalogue' section looks something like: You don't need xfs (unless you know you need it). Just add the appropriate FontPath lines to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and restart X. You'll need to the mkttfdir or whatever bits, but it should then work fine. You can use 'xlsfonts' to list all available fonts, or you could do 'xfontsel' to select particular ones. -rob msg11964/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: true type fonts
Rob Weir ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: You don't need xfs (unless you know you need it). Just add the appropriate FontPath lines to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and restart X. You'll need to the mkttfdir or whatever bits, but it should then work fine. You can use 'xlsfonts' to list all available fonts, or you could do 'xfontsel' to select particular ones. And there is also some stuff regarding font hints which you should generate for TTF files, last I checked KDE had an excellent utility for adding fonts which did this. Even if it does not exactly suit your needs you can imitate what it does and/or use some of the files it generates to save you some time. -- That's angle as in geometry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
true type fonts
Hi folks, I have been trying to setup truetype fonts on my box. I did find good doc when I searched on google and did follow the instructions to the dot. save for the simple fact that /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype is a link to /usr/share/fints/ttfonts I am not sure as to how to verify if all the fonts are working. xset q shows /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts so I guess it there in the path. and /XF86Config-4 does have /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts as the first line in the fontpath But how do I verfiy if the applications are are actually able use these fonts. I did not check the list of fonts before installing the ttf fonts from Windows 98 fonts dir, so I am cannot compare to know what was there and what is there now. Another trivial question how to do I universal copy paste enabled in KDE that is copying pasting between different applications. Like I try to copy the urls from konquerer to mozilla or i copy a message that i recieved in yahoo messenger to kword and stuff. I would appreciate if someone could point to some docs that I can read to set this all up. thank you regards Harshu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: True Type fonts, anti-aliasing
* A R [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-21 13:21:52]: cd /us/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType ln -s /usr/share/fonts/truetype Well, I tried to do it and discover that I don't have TrueType directory, which tells me that I probably didn't install them. Can some one point what packages need to be installed to get both TrueType and anti-aliasing going? I am running Woody. Check your path, it is wrong. The correct one is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType. If you don't have that one either, the package you should get is msttcorefonts, I guess. P.S. this is my first post to a mailing lists. Please don't get mad at me if I did anything wrong. Just tell me somehow, thanks :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true type fonts won't work...
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Bob Proulx wrote: I had tried to install them manually and had random troubles. Then I found the easiest way to make those work is to add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file to get non-US and non-free. deb http://misery.proulx.com:/non-US unstable/non-US non-free Then install 'msttcorefonts'. apt-get install msttcorefonts Of course Micro$oft's licensing won't allow repacking of their fonts. But this package installs a helper installer which will do the download of them direct from Microsoft, or other cached location, and install them. I DID use this package to install my truetype fonts, however it does not work :( On my suse 8.0 box it does work and I have no clue on what the difference in configuration is anymore... Thanx anyway! -- Ronald Verlaan http://www.ronaldverlaan.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- After all, all he did was string together a lot of old, well-known quotations. -- H.L. Mencken, on Shakespeare -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true type fonts won't work...
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Stephan Hachinger wrote: Hi Stephan, Another very easy way is installing xfstt and placing your truetype fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, adding unix:/7100 (besides unix:/7101 for xfs, I think) to the FontPath in XF86Config-4. Then install ttmkfdir and tetex-bin and a package containing mkfontdir (i.e. xutils, I think (again *g*)). Go to the directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype, call the script in the first chapter of this howto: That is exactly what I did! And I have read all howtoos on this subject I guess :P Can it be that something went wrong during compiling kde (with respect to truetype support or something...) ? Thanx for helping! -- Ronald Verlaan http://www.ronaldverlaan.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- After all, all he did was string together a lot of old, well-known quotations. -- H.L. Mencken, on Shakespeare -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true type fonts won't work...
- Original Message - From: Ronald Verlaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stephan Hachinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: Re: true type fonts won't work... On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Stephan Hachinger wrote: Hi Stephan, (...) That is exactly what I did! And I have read all howtoos on this subject I guess :P Can it be that something went wrong during compiling kde (with respect to truetype support or something...) ? No, definitely not. If the xfstt server supplies the fonts, they can be used immediately without problems. What does xfstt --sync print out? Can you select the truetype fonts in xfontsel (xbase-clients package)? Cheers, Stephan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
true type fonts won't work...
Hi all, I am trying to make anti-aliasing work for the true type fonts I downloaded from microsoft. I am using: debian woody kernel 2.4.18 XFree86 4.1 packages of debian woody 4.2 version of X binary (stolen from SuSE 8.0 distribution) xfs as well as xfstt kde 3.01 (compiled myself) I put the truetype fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype and run the commands to make the fonts.scale and fonts.dir files. Also I synced xfstt. As fontpaths in my XF86config-4 I only configured the xfs and xfstt font servers. This works as I do see all the fonts (including the TT fonts) listed with xlsfonts. Still I can clearly see my fonts in kde (choosen the andale mono true type font in kde control panel) are not anti-aliased :( I did select the anti-aliasing radio-button in kde control panel and I did set QT_XFT to 1. What can I possibly do wrong or forget? Should I had done something special while compiling kde3.01 or qt ?? (I did not had yet the fontservers running while compiling kde). Any hints? Best regards, -- Ronald Verlaan http://www.ronaldverlaan.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- English literature's performing flea. -- Sean O'Casey on P.G. Wodehouse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true type fonts won't work...
Ronald == Ronald Verlaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Ronald As fontpaths in my XF86config-4 I only configured the xfs and Ronald xfstt font servers. This works as I do see all the fonts Ronald (including the TT fonts) listed with xlsfonts. Edit /etc/X11/XftConfig. Add an appropriate dir line. -- Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.uhoreg.ca/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/124B61FA Fingerprint: 96C5 012F 5F74 A5F7 1FF7 5291 AF29 C719 124B 61FA Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred. pgpfVcPsQlvuc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: true type fonts won't work...
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Hubert Chan wrote: Ronald As fontpaths in my XF86config-4 I only configured the xfs and Ronald xfstt font servers. This works as I do see all the fonts Ronald (including the TT fonts) listed with xlsfonts. Edit /etc/X11/XftConfig. Add an appropriate dir line. Sorry I forgot to mention, this I did as well already... -- Ronald Verlaan http://www.ronaldverlaan.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Q: Why did Menachem Begin invade Lebanon? A: To impress Jodie Foster. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true type fonts won't work...
On 16 Jun 2002, Peter Whysall wrote: Hi Peter, Any hints? Are you loading the freetype module in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? Yes I did :P Thanx anyway! -- Ronald Verlaan http://www.ronaldverlaan.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Try to get all of your posthumous medals in advance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true type fonts won't work...
- Original Message - From: Ronald Verlaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian User Mailinglist debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 9:35 PM Subject: Re: true type fonts won't work... On 16 Jun 2002, Peter Whysall wrote: Hi Peter, Any hints? Are you loading the freetype module in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? Yes I did :P Thanx anyway! Hi! Another very easy way is installing xfstt and placing your truetype fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, adding unix:/7100 (besides unix:/7101 for xfs, I think) to the FontPath in XF86Config-4. Then install ttmkfdir and tetex-bin and a package containing mkfontdir (i.e. xutils, I think (again *g*)). Go to the directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype, call the script in the first chapter of this howto: http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/howto/HOWTO/TT-Debian/TT-Debian-5.html , call ttmkfdir fonts.scale , call mkfontdir and look if ./fonts.dir contains the font names ;). Then call xfstt --sync . Your fonts should be available to X now. (after a restart of your X server). Finally, you should make your fonts available for printing (gs), as described in http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/howto/HOWTO/TT-Debian/TT-Debian-4.html ; you should only take care for where your gs Fontmap actually is (I think it's now somewhere else than in /etc, see dpkg -S *Fontmap* for the right location), and change the line xfstt --gslist --sync /etc/gs.Fontmap accordingly. The author of the howto describes, that one should edit the Fontmap file manually afterwards. That's right. If gs cannot find a font in - for example a kde document whcih you want to print - , though, and uses the default font instead, the following way helped at my machine (if I remember correctly): 1) Force printing to ps. 2) Call gs psfile 3) Watch gs output: It will say which font it does not find. 4) Take a look at psfile with an editor and search for the font definition of the font not found - you will find that the spelling differs slightly from the one at your Fontmap or so. 5) Put a new alias in your Fontmap which maps the different spelling to the one you've used in your Fontmap before. Aliases work like this: /Arial/MS-Arial ; means: use previously defined font MS-Arial for Arial, if Arial is requested by a document. (For further information: The whole howto is at: http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/howto/HOWTO/TT-Debian/ ). Cheers, Stephan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true type fonts won't work...
I am trying to make anti-aliasing work for the true type fonts I downloaded from microsoft. I had tried to install them manually and had random troubles. Then I found the easiest way to make those work is to add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file to get non-US and non-free. deb http://misery.proulx.com:/non-US unstable/non-US non-free Then install 'msttcorefonts'. apt-get install msttcorefonts Of course Micro$oft's licensing won't allow repacking of their fonts. But this package installs a helper installer which will do the download of them direct from Microsoft, or other cached location, and install them. Bob pgp55rJPdVgsT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: true type fonts won't work...
I had tried to install them manually and had random troubles. Then I found the easiest way to make those work is to add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file to get non-US and non-free. deb http://misery.proulx.com:/non-US unstable/non-US non-free Ack! That is the machine behind my firewall on which I am running my own apt-proxy on. Don't use that one. You can't get it to anyway. I had a brain freeze, sorry, and pasted the proxy line from my sources.list instead of the real one. But it does give you immediate insight into how the proxy works. :-) Hopefully you figured out that I meant to say use the global non-US, non-free location. deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US non-free Then install 'msttcorefonts'. apt-get install msttcorefonts And insert all of the discussion about using non-free and non-US packages. Generally non-free is a bad idea and disliked. It is why they are are painful to install. If they were free then they could be bundled with Debian. Caveat Emptor. Bob pgpU6hjLTqDhx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: true type fonts in X 4.x ?
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 11:46:03AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have the short version of how to set up true type fonts under X ? I installed xfstt and read the docs. Bob
Re: true type fonts in X 4.x ?
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Eric C. Cooper wrote: On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 11:46:03AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have the short version of how to set up true type fonts under X ? Here's what I did, maybe someone can point out the error in my ways. Add Load xtt to XF86Config Change this to Load freetype I also added /usr/share/fonts/truetype to the font path. run ttfmkfdir -o fonts.dir in my /usr/share/fonts/truetype directory. Make sure that fonts.scale is a copy of, or link to, fonts.dir in each truetype directory. Try xfontsel and : the fonts are selectable but they won't appear, i.e. they don't seem to render at all. In fact xfontsel starts acting a little strange with repaints now working, etc... If you run Gnome, I suggest gfontsel from the gnome-utils package, especially if you have lots of fonts installed. HTH. An easier way to do this is: apt-get install xfstt throw all your truetype fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype xfstt --sync (without xfstt started) and then add FontPath unix/:7101 to your XF86Config - Josh Reynolds
Re: true type fonts in X 4.x ?
Josh == Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Josh An easier way to do this is: Josh apt-get install xfstt I should have specified that this is under X 4. which doesn't need a font server. Why not use anyway one you ask ? Josh throw all your truetype fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype Josh xfstt --sync (without xfstt started) Josh and then add FontPath unix/:7101 to your XF86Config That's how I used to have things set-up and it caused gnumeric and rxvt to hang. hence the reason for seeking a way to use the built-in functionality. Brian
true type fonts in X 4.x ?
Does anyone have the short version of how to set up true type fonts under X ? Here's what I did, maybe someone can point out the error in my ways. Add Load xtt to XF86Config I also added /usr/share/fonts/truetype to the font path. run ttfmkfdir -o fonts.dir in my /usr/share/fonts/truetype directory. Try xfontsel and : the fonts are selectable but they won't appear, i.e. they don't seem to render at all. In fact xfontsel starts acting a little strange with repaints now working, etc... TIA Brian P.S. Yes, I have truetype fonts in the font directory :-)
Re: true type fonts in X 4.x ?
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 11:46:03AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have the short version of how to set up true type fonts under X ? Here's what I did, maybe someone can point out the error in my ways. Add Load xtt to XF86Config Change this to Load freetype I also added /usr/share/fonts/truetype to the font path. run ttfmkfdir -o fonts.dir in my /usr/share/fonts/truetype directory. Make sure that fonts.scale is a copy of, or link to, fonts.dir in each truetype directory. Try xfontsel and : the fonts are selectable but they won't appear, i.e. they don't seem to render at all. In fact xfontsel starts acting a little strange with repaints now working, etc... If you run Gnome, I suggest gfontsel from the gnome-utils package, especially if you have lots of fonts installed. HTH. -- Eric C. Cooper e c c @ c m u . e d u
Re: true type fonts in X 4.x ?
Here's what I did. Turned on antialiasing in KDE Panel, apt-get install xfs, apt-get install xfstt, apt-get install msttcorefonts (this is a debian package for obtaining truetype fonts from Microsoft (they are free fonts). After all this apt-getting, reboot the machine, and you should have truetype fonts. If not check out this Howto: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/mini/TT-Debian-1.html I merely had to do the apt-gets listed above to get truetype working. Kerry
Re: true type fonts in X 4.x ?
Thanks very much Eric, your changes made the difference. xfontsel now works and shows the truetype fonts correctly. I would have never figured out that the link was necessary. Here's a recap to summarize the changes. This is for XFree 4.x : 1. In your XF86Config (or XF86Config-4) file : In section Modules, add Load freetype Add the directory where your truetype fonts are located : /usr/share/fonts/truetype to the fontpath. 2. In directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype, run ttfmkfdir -o fonts.dir create the apropriate link ln -s fonts.dir fonts.scale 3. Don't forget to actually have truetype fonts in the /usr/share/fonts/truetype directory :-) Eric == Eric C Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 11:46:03AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have the short version of how to set up true type fonts under X ? Here's what I did, maybe someone can point out the error in my ways. Add Load xtt to XF86Config Eric Change this to Eric Load freetype I also added /usr/share/fonts/truetype to the font path. run ttfmkfdir -o fonts.dir in my /usr/share/fonts/truetype directory. Eric Make sure that fonts.scale is a copy of, or link to, fonts.dir in each Eric truetype directory. Try xfontsel and : the fonts are selectable but they won't appear, i.e. they don't seem to render at all. In fact xfontsel starts acting a little strange with repaints now working, etc... Eric If you run Gnome, I suggest gfontsel from the gnome-utils package, Eric especially if you have lots of fonts installed. Eric HTH. Eric -- Eric Eric C. Cooper e c c @ c m u . e d u
Re: true type fonts in X 4.x ?
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 11:46:03AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have the short version of how to set up true type fonts under X ? One of the best source of TT fonts are from M$ :-( ii msttcorefonts 0.9.9 Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts Package: msttcorefonts Priority: optional Section: contrib/graphics Installed-Size: 160 Maintainer: Eric Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: all Version: 0.9.9 Depends: wget, cabextract (= 0.1-2), gawk | awk, xutils (= 4.0.2), debconf Filename: pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/msttcorefonts_0.9.9_all.deb Size: 12188 MD5sum: 5ee425f13c456a48955ea5bd80b1eb6d Description: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts This package allows for easy installation of the Microsoft True Type Core Fonts for the Web including: . Andale Mono Arial Black Arial (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic) Comic Sans MS (Bold) Courier New (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic) Georgia (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic) Impact Times New Roman (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic) Trebuchet (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic) Verdana (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic) Webdings . You will need an Internet connection to download these modules from Microsoft's Web site. -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + My debian quick-reference, http://qref.sourceforge.net/quick/ +
Re: True Type Fonts on Potato
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:39:58 +0100, Ville Uski wrote: * Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011109 12:10]: Than I went through the archives for Debian specific information and came across a pointer to a Debian TrueType Mini-Howto. Unfortunately I was unable to find such a document on the site. Any advice or pointer would be much appreciated! it's in linuxdoc.org, at least. http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/TT-Debian.html Thanks a lot, that did help! Now, does someone have a suggestion what fonts to specify in the Mozilla Preference? Currently it lists Adobe fonts. -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
true type fonts
Does anyone know where I can get true type fonts? Like a debian package? Thanks, Matt
Re: true type fonts
Matt Fair [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know where I can get true type fonts? Like a debian package? Thanks, Matt try apt-get install msttcorefonts. Then you might want to read the howto: http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html HTH
True Type Fonts on Potato
Hi, I would like to improve the font display of my desktop for (mailnly) Mozilla and AbiWord. I think that the proper way to do this is by installing True Type fonts. I have a Potato box with Ximian Gnome. First I did an: apt-get install xfstt copied some *.ttf font files from a Windows box to /usr/share/fonts/truetype Added: Fonthpath unix/:7100 to /etc/X11/XF86Config and did a reboot. This did not seem to do the trick. Than I went through the archives for Debian specific information and came across a pointer to a Debian TrueType Mini-Howto. Unfortunately I was unable to find such a document on the site. Any advice or pointer would be much appreciated! -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: True Type Fonts on Potato
* Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011109 12:10]: Than I went through the archives for Debian specific information and came across a pointer to a Debian TrueType Mini-Howto. Unfortunately I was unable to find such a document on the site. Any advice or pointer would be much appreciated! it's in linuxdoc.org, at least. http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/TT-Debian.html
Re: how to use true type fonts in X 3.3.6
read the debian-mini ttf-HOWTO. on a side note, why use staroffice? it'a a memory hog...use LaTeX instead if you really want to impress. -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
how to use true type fonts in X 3.3.6
Can XFree86 3.3.6 (the one shipped in Potato) use True Type Fonts in applications? I'm interested to use some True Type Fonts especially with my documents I write using StarOffice. If so, how do I configure such? Paolo Falcone __ www.edsamail.com
Re: how to use true type fonts in X 3.3.6
Thus spake Paolo Falcone: Can XFree86 3.3.6 (the one shipped in Potato) use True Type Fonts in applications? I'm interested to use some True Type Fonts especially with my documents I write using StarOffice. If so, how do I configure such? Paolo Falcone I believe in x 3.x you have to run the xfs-xtt server - check this link: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Font-HOWTO.html Good luck, Steve -- I used to be an agnostic, but now I'm not so sure. pgpWpugNDldxU.pgp Description: PGP signature
True Type Fonts
I've been working on true type fonts and can't get them to work on XF86-4.3. I'm using Paul Smith's TrueType Fonts on Debian XFree86 4.x Systems at http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html#NETSCAPE. I'm sure I've configured it the way he recommends, but when I run $ xset fp+ /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType I get the following: X Error of failed request: 86 Major opcode of failed request: 51 (X_SetFontPath) Serial number of failed request: 9 Current serial number in output stream: 11 I will attach my XF86 Config file, I'm not sure the FreeType module is loading properly. If I try to generate another XF86Config file using xf86config, I can't get it working, there seem to be to many errors. I'm running woody, and am current with updates. Any help is appreciated. thanks -- # XF86Config (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by Dexconf, the # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-v3 manual page. # (Type man XF86Config-v3 at the shell prompt.) Section Files # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType FontPath/usr/local/share/fonts/ttfonts FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules EndSection Section Module Loadpex5.so Loadxie.so Load freetype EndSection Section ServerFlags EndSection Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard XkbRulesxfree86 XkbModelpc104 XkbLayout us EndSection Section Pointer Device /dev/psaux ProtocolPS/2 Emulate3Buttons ZAxisMapping4 5 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor VendorName Generic ModelName Monitor HorizSync 30-95 VertRefresh 50-160 # 640x350 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz ModeLine 640x35031.5 640 672 736 832350 382 385 445 +hsync -vsync # 640x400 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz ModeLine 640x40031.5 640 672 736 832400 401 404 445 -hsync +vsync # 720x400 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz ModeLine 720x40035.5 720 756 828 936400 401 404 446 -hsync +vsync # 640x480 @ 60Hz (Industry standard) hsync: 31.5kHz ModeLine 640x48025.2 640 656 752 800480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync # 640x480 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz ModeLine 640x48031.5 640 664 704 832480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync # 640x480 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.5kHz ModeLine 640x48031.5 640 656 720 840480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync # 640x480 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 43.3kHz ModeLine 640x48036.0 640 696 752 832480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync # 800x600 @ 56Hz (VESA) hsync: 35.2kHz ModeLine 800x60036.0 800 824 896 1024600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz ModeLine 800x60040.0 800 840 968 1056600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.1kHz ModeLine 800x60050.0 800 856 976 1040600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 46.9kHz ModeLine 800x60049.5 800 816 896 1056600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 53.7kHz ModeLine 800x60056.3 800 832 896 1048600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync # 1024x768i @ 43Hz (industry standard) hsync: 35.5kHz ModeLine 1024x768 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264768 768 776 817 +hsync +vsync Interlace # 1024x768 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.4kHz ModeLine 1024x768 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1024x768 @ 70Hz (VESA) hsync: 56.5kHz ModeLine 1024x768 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1024x768 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 60.0kHz ModeLine 1024x768 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync # 1024x768 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 68.7kHz ModeLine 1024x768 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync # 1152x864 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 67.5kHz ModeLine 1152x864 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync # 1280x960 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 60.0kHz ModeLine 1280x960 108.0 1280 1376 1488 1800960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync # 1280x960 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 85.9kHz ModeLine 1280x960 148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728960 961 964 1011 +hsync +vsync # 1280x1024 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 64.0kHz ModeLine 1280x1024 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
Re: True Type Fonts-Solved!
On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Dale Morris wrote: I've been working on true type fonts and can't get them to work on XF86-4.3. I'm using Paul Smith's TrueType Fonts on Debian XFree86 4.x I was finally able to get true type font package working, but it entailed reinstalling XFree86 binaries and overwriting everything to get the correct fonts and to get XF86Config properly configured. Whew! I suppose there was an easier way, but I wasn't able to smoke it out.
Re: True Type Fonts-Solved!
Thus spake Dale Morris: On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Dale Morris wrote: I've been working on true type fonts and can't get them to work on XF86-4.3. I'm using Paul Smith's TrueType Fonts on Debian XFree86 4.x I was finally able to get true type font package working, but it entailed reinstalling XFree86 binaries and overwriting everything to get the correct fonts and to get XF86Config properly configured. Whew! I suppose there was an easier way, but I wasn't able to smoke it out. I saw in your config file you never specified loading true type fonts - that was what I had to do to get them loaded finally: Load truetype Load speedo etc,etc. Don't know if this would work for your problem, but hope it helps. Good luck, Steve
true type fonts in gimp
Hi, I can see my ttf in netscape but in gimp the font is there but gimp complains that the selected font is not available Any clues? TIA pls CC me in the replies _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: ?True type fonts?
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:41:58PM +1000, Alan Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled I have seen some instructions for improving fonts in Netscape, often using True Type fonts. I resist moving any MS products onto my machine. Are there philosophical or practical arguements for or against using TT fonts? I installed the fonts using the msttcorefont deb and they have improved viewing webpages with Netscape a little. Depending on your reasons for not wanting to use MS products it may or may not be worth it for you. You can check this link to read the EULA for the fonts http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/eula.htm or read about the font pack itself here http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/default.htm My own feeling was that if the fontpack somehow violated Debian policy that the msttcorefont deb wouldn't be in testing and unstable. At first glance, even in the page http://www2.arnes.si/~mrihta3/ns-unix.html, where Type I fonts are mentioned, I didn't see any instructions for installing them--- mainly TT fonts. check out Paul D. Smiths site. He has excellent instruction on installing TT fonts http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/
Re: ?True type fonts?
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:41:58PM +1000, Alan Davis wrote: I have seen some instructions for improving fonts in Netscape, often using True Type fonts. I resist moving any MS products onto my machine. Are there philosophical or practical arguements for or against using TT fonts? This question also touches upon TeX/LaTex; I have also seen instructions for installing TT fonts. I resist. What---if anything---recommends them? I am looking for a balanced view; however, I cannot/will not leave philosophical issues behind. I wish to support free software in every way possible. At first glance, even in the page http://www2.arnes.si/~mrihta3/ns-unix.html, where Type I fonts are mentioned, I didn't see any instructions for installing them---mainly TT fonts. Alan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-670-235-6580 Alan E. Davis, PMB 30, Box 10006, Saipan, MP 96950-8906, CNMI I have steadily endeavored to keep my mind free, so as to give up any hypothesis, however much beloved -- and I cannot resist forming one on every subject -- as soon as facts are shown to be opposed to it. -- Charles Darwin (1809-1882) G'day Alan, QUOTE - Font-HOWTO 2.1.4. TrueType fonts True type fonts were developed by Apple. They made the format available to Microsoft, and succesfully challenged Adobe's grip on the font market. True type fonts store the metric and shape information in a single file ( usually one with a ttf extension ). Recently, font servers have been developed that make TrueType available to X. And postscript and ghostscript have supported TrueType fonts for some time. Because of this, TrueType fonts are becoming more popular on linux. /QUOTE So unless you install the msttcorefont or what ever that package is called you aren't putting any MS products on your box. Cheers Joel
Re: ?True type fonts?
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:41:58PM +1000, Alan Davis wrote: I have seen some instructions for improving fonts in Netscape, often using True Type fonts. I resist moving any MS products onto my machine. Are there philosophical or practical arguements for or against using TT fonts? There are some good arguments for using TrueType fonts on the screen. I gues the best is that TTFs have a better hinting for low resolutions (like the screen). This question also touches upon TeX/LaTex; I have also seen instructions for installing TT fonts. I resist. I don't really know anything aboutn TTFs in LaTeX but you can easily install Type1 fonts in LaTeX. Type1 fonts look pretty good at printer resolutions. Take a look at fontinst which should have come with your tetex package. What---if anything---recommends them? I am looking for a balanced view; however, I cannot/will not leave philosophical issues behind. I wish to support free software in every way possible. Most of the True Type fonts were created by Monotype not Microsoft. Hope this helps :)) At first glance, even in the page http://www2.arnes.si/~mrihta3/ns-unix.html, where Type I fonts are mentioned, I didn't see any instructions for installing them---mainly TT fonts. Cheers Martin -- Row, row, row your bits, gently down the stream... pgp6P2fmuN5uN.pgp Description: PGP signature
?True type fonts?
I have seen some instructions for improving fonts in Netscape, often using True Type fonts. I resist moving any MS products onto my machine. Are there philosophical or practical arguements for or against using TT fonts? This question also touches upon TeX/LaTex; I have also seen instructions for installing TT fonts. I resist. What---if anything---recommends them? I am looking for a balanced view; however, I cannot/will not leave philosophical issues behind. I wish to support free software in every way possible. At first glance, even in the page http://www2.arnes.si/~mrihta3/ns-unix.html, where Type I fonts are mentioned, I didn't see any instructions for installing them---mainly TT fonts. Alan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-670-235-6580 Alan E. Davis, PMB 30, Box 10006, Saipan, MP 96950-8906, CNMI I have steadily endeavored to keep my mind free, so as to give up any hypothesis, however much beloved -- and I cannot resist forming one on every subject -- as soon as facts are shown to be opposed to it. -- Charles Darwin (1809-1882)
Re: make xfs serve windows true type fonts?
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:31:26AM +0800, Eric Boo wrote: What's the difference between adding the path to xfs-xtt's config and adding it to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? Adding to xfs-xtt's config tells xfs-xtt about them. Adding to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 tells Xfree4 about them. Does running xfs-xtt give a better look? I tried getting xfs-xtt up and running a while ago, without much success. It seemed (to me at least) that it didnt want to play nice with XFree4. Solved the problem by removing it entirely and letting xfs (the XFree4 font server) handle the truetype fonts. Works like a charm. The font output isn't too bad, but it looks REALLY nice under KDE 2.1.1 on my work machine (TNT2 vidcard, nv driver), although antialiasing slows X down quite a bit. On my laptop (ATI vidcard, ati driver) I can't get KDE's antialiasing to work at all - looks like the ati driver doesn't have AA support just yet. -b3
make xfs serve windows true type fonts?
So how can I make xfs serve all those true type fonts I have avaliable for windoxe. Is there a HOWTO or something avaliable I can read? I've managed to get wine running but apps look quite ugly without those ttfs. -- __ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Selling Soluciones Valencia Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r2 __
