Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 oct 21, 10:31:58, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like
> > protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like
> > debian-user.
> 
> While protonmail might be used for such situations, in my experience
> most protonmail users I've seen are just people that are sufficiently
> technically aware to know that they should stay away from gmail and
> friends and look for a quality email provider (posteo being another
> popular provider in that space).
> 
> So, my own bias would rather tend to expect good behavior (good
> questions and good answers) from participants posting from
> protonmail ;-)

To add to this, usually the contents of the message are much more 
revealing, e.g. use of punctuation and capitalisation ;)

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 oct 21, 17:18:13, fxkl47BF wrote:
> just one more thing
> 
> posteo was mentioned as an alternative
> i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
> their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender
> the account own has no say
> 
> i also have a mailfence account i will drop
> a while back i stopped getting mail from my bank
> i investigated and found the bank mail was generating a false positive virus
> i informed mailfence and they agreed it was probably the cause of my trouble
> but they didn't bother to fix it
> several months later they started passing mail from my bank

With ProtonMail I've only had trouble receiving automatic stuff like 
notifications[1].

Those are often similar enough to spam to be difficult to distinguish 
from actual spam.

For one particular (in)famous social network I solved it by activating 
encrypted notifications[2].

[1] That I know of, of course. ;)
[2] Was positively surprised to learn they offer this.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 19:46:39 +, fxkl47BF wrote:

[Mangled quoted text deleted]

> > You have a link to a statement of this policy?
> >
> > -
> >
> > Brian.
> 
> i do not
> only a personal email from supp...@posteo.de

I tend to take such mails from an ISP's front-line support with a pinch
of salt and not as gospel.

-- 
Brian.



Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread fxkl47BF
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 1:46 PM, Brian  wrote:

> On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 17:18:13 +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> > just one more thing
> >
> > posteo was mentioned as an alternative
> >
> > i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
> >
> > their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender
> >
> > the account own has no say
>
> You have a link to a statement of this policy?
>
> -
>
> Brian.

i do not
only a personal email from supp...@posteo.de



Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 17:18:13 +, fxkl47BF wrote:

> just one more thing
> 
> posteo was mentioned as an alternative
> i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
> their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender
> the account own has no say

You have a link to a statement of this policy?

-- 
Brian.



[OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like
> protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like
> debian-user.

While protonmail might be used for such situations, in my experience
most protonmail users I've seen are just people that are sufficiently
technically aware to know that they should stay away from gmail and
friends and look for a quality email provider (posteo being another
popular provider in that space).

So, my own bias would rather tend to expect good behavior (good
questions and good answers) from participants posting from
protonmail ;-)


Stefan



Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread fxkl47BF
just one more thing

posteo was mentioned as an alternative
i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender
the account own has no say

i also have a mailfence account i will drop
a while back i stopped getting mail from my bank
i investigated and found the bank mail was generating a false positive virus
i informed mailfence and they agreed it was probably the cause of my trouble
but they didn't bother to fix it
several months later they started passing mail from my bank

some times you have to kiss a lot of frogs



Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: mail service

2021-10-10 Thread fxkl47BF
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 9:31 AM, Stefan Monnier 
 wrote:

> > In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like
> >
> > protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like
> >
> > debian-user.
>
> While protonmail might be used for such situations, in my experience
>
> most protonmail users I've seen are just people that are sufficiently
>
> technically aware to know that they should stay away from gmail and
>
> friends and look for a quality email provider (posteo being another
>
> popular provider in that space).
>
> So, my own bias would rather tend to expect good behavior (good
>
> questions and good answers) from participants posting from
>
> protonmail ;-)
>
> Stefan

well put
you're a much better wordsmith than i