Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-30 Thread Leandro Quibem Magnabosco

Alex Samad escreveu:

I have used vmware player, server + esx, virtualbox

I like virtualbox - but from the virtualbox repo not the debian repo

  
Interesting tip. Could you tell me more about why you prefer the 
virtualbox repo instead of debian's?



why is your server not capable of handle the 5 - changing vm software
might not get around that limitation !
  


It is capable, I don't think I said the other way around.
What I am interested in is learning from other's experiences when it 
comes to 5VMs at the same machine using Debian, that's all.



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Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-30 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina

09/28/2009 05:48 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco:

I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows +
PFSense. [...]
What would YOU do?


KVM
http://wiki.debian.org/KVM
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Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-30 Thread Leandro Quibem Magnabosco

Rakotomandimby Mihamina escreveu:

09/28/2009 05:48 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco:

I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows +
PFSense. [...]
What would YOU do?


KVM
http://wiki.debian.org/KVM
As far as I know, KVM is pretty new and only in 0.11.x version and 
0.12.0 will probably only come in December 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/k...@vger.kernel.org/msg22964.html).

This makes me a little insecure about it's stability.
Have you tested KVM with 5 servers or more?


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Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-30 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina

09/30/2009 03:00 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco:

I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows +
PFSense. [...]
What would YOU do?

KVM
http://wiki.debian.org/KVM

As far as I know, KVM is pretty new and only in 0.11.x version and
0.12.0 will probably only come in December


According to me, version number means nothing. It's just a number.


This makes me a little insecure about it's stability.
Have you tested KVM with 5 servers or more?


I use it everyday in a 4 core/8G RAM supermicro server.
I mostly run Ubuntu-server as host and windows (XP, Vista) as guest.
We have 4 VM per host.

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Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-30 Thread Leandro Quibem Magnabosco

Rakotomandimby Mihamina escreveu:

09/30/2009 03:00 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco:

As far as I know, KVM is pretty new and only in 0.11.x version and
0.12.0 will probably only come in December


According to me, version number means nothing. It's just a number.


I agree, but I meant their features.
Storage Live Migration and Guest SMP for KVM will be supported only on 
0.12.0.

This makes me a little insecure about it's stability.
Have you tested KVM with 5 servers or more?

I use it everyday in a 4 core/8G RAM supermicro server.
I mostly run Ubuntu-server as host and windows (XP, Vista) as guest.
We have 4 VM per host. 
My application would be a bit different, but that tells me *something* 
already.

Sadly there is nobody else sharing their experiences as I was wishing.

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Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-30 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina

09/30/2009 04:01 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco:

Sadly there is nobody else sharing their experiences as I was wishing.


Subscribe to the KVM mailing list directly.
Same for Xen.

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Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-30 Thread Nick Adie
Hi

I installed VMWare Server (HowtoForge for info) on Debian 5.  I run the
following environments on it:
Debian 4
Debian 5
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows 7
Windows 2000 Server
Windows 2003 Server
Windows 2008 Server
All images transfered from a Workstation Environment.

A little slow to start but once running, they are a dream.

Regards
Nick


On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco 
leandro.magnabo...@fcdl-sc.org.br wrote:

 Hello,

 Maybe this isn't OffTopic, but I added [OT] tag just in case.

 I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows +
 PFSense.
 I figured it would be better to have ESXi installed, but the server machine
 is not compatible with it.
 That said, I am searching for the best way to implement this without using
 ESXi.

 I am not really experienced when it comes to virtualization, so I know I
 could learn a lot from your advices.

 What would YOU do?

 Obviously, I will run Debian under the hood, but what would you run on
 top of it to support 5 VMs?

 Thank you for your time.
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Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-30 Thread Leandro Quibem Magnabosco

Nick Adie escreveu:

Hi
 
I installed VMWare Server (HowtoForge for info) on Debian 5.  I run 
the following environments on it:

Debian 4
Debian 5
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows 7
Windows 2000 Server
Windows 2003 Server
Windows 2008 Server
All images transfered from a Workstation Environment.
 
A little slow to start but once running, they are a dream.
 
Regards

Nick



Thanks a bunch, Nick.
Even tho not so detailed, those are exactly the kind of experience 
reports I was looking for.


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Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-30 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:42:37AM -0300, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco wrote:
 Alex Samad escreveu:
 I have used vmware player, server + esx, virtualbox
 
 I like virtualbox - but from the virtualbox repo not the debian repo
 
 Interesting tip. Could you tell me more about why you prefer the
 virtualbox repo instead of debian's?
there are some things that VB haven't opensourced they are available
through their repo

 
 why is your server not capable of handle the 5 - changing vm software
 might not get around that limitation !
 
 It is capable, I don't think I said the other way around.
 What I am interested in is learning from other's experiences when it
 comes to 5VMs at the same machine using Debian, that's all.
 
 



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Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-29 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:48:48AM -0300, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Maybe this isn't OffTopic, but I added [OT] tag just in case.
 
 I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows + PFSense.
 I figured it would be better to have ESXi installed, but the server
 machine is not compatible with it.
 That said, I am searching for the best way to implement this without
 using ESXi.
 
 I am not really experienced when it comes to virtualization, so I
 know I could learn a lot from your advices.
 
 What would YOU do?

I have used vmware player, server + esx, virtualbox

I like virtualbox - but from the virtualbox repo not the debian repo

why is your server not capable of handle the 5 - changing vm software
might not get around that limitation !



 
 Obviously, I will run Debian under the hood, but what would you
 run on top of it to support 5 VMs?
 
 Thank you for your time.

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[OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-28 Thread Leandro Quibem Magnabosco

Hello,

Maybe this isn't OffTopic, but I added [OT] tag just in case.

I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows + PFSense.
I figured it would be better to have ESXi installed, but the server 
machine is not compatible with it.
That said, I am searching for the best way to implement this without 
using ESXi.


I am not really experienced when it comes to virtualization, so I know I 
could learn a lot from your advices.


What would YOU do?

Obviously, I will run Debian under the hood, but what would you run on 
top of it to support 5 VMs?


Thank you for your time.
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Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-28 Thread Niu Kun

Leandro Quibem Magnabosco 写道:

Hello,

Maybe this isn't OffTopic, but I added [OT] tag just in case.

I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows + 
PFSense.
I figured it would be better to have ESXi installed, but the server 
machine is not compatible with it.
That said, I am searching for the best way to implement this without 
using ESXi.


I am not really experienced when it comes to virtualization, so I know 
I could learn a lot from your advices.


What would YOU do?

Obviously, I will run Debian under the hood, but what would you run 
on top of it to support 5 VMs?


Thank you for your time.
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VirtualBox may be one of your choice. It's totally free. And I'm using it.
Win and Freebsd both work for me.
Just pay attention the network card configuration to meet your requirement.
But if you want it for commercial use, I don't know if it's stable enough.


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Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization Sharing Experiences

2009-09-28 Thread Michael Zoet

 Hello,

 Maybe this isn't OffTopic, but I added [OT] tag just in case.

 I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows +
 PFSense.
 I figured it would be better to have ESXi installed, but the server
 machine is not compatible with it.
 That said, I am searching for the best way to implement this without
 using ESXi.

 I am not really experienced when it comes to virtualization, so I know I
 could learn a lot from your advices.

 What would YOU do?

 Obviously, I will run Debian under the hood, but what would you run on
 top of it to support 5 VMs?


You can achieve your goals with a lot of virtualisation technologies. On
questions like this you will get several answers from different people
that they are fully satisfied with their solutions. (Xen, KVM, Virtualbox
and and and)

For myself I use Xen, KVM and VMWare Server. All three have disadvantages
but they work great for me and my servers. For me Xen is the most reliable
and feature rich technology but the Linux kernel folks do not like the
code. KVM might be the shooting star in the Linux Kernel world, but I
think it is a bit new and misses some feature Xen already has. VMWare
Server has a higher demand on hardware but easier to setup. (But has an
awfully bad JAVA Webapp for administration (IMHO) ).


Michael






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