Re: [OT] HTML5 (was: Playing Videos)

2012-06-11 Thread Ethan Rosenberg

At 02:17 PM 6/10/2012, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:47:09 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

 At 12:11 PM 6/10/2012, Camaleón wrote:

Video tag is supported in the newer versions of the usual browsers
(Firerox, Chrome, Opera...). It works well here (Firefox 13) :-)
  Iceweasel 10.0.1 Does not work

Provide fall-back alternatives. Use a different container. Use a
different browser. Move it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video

  If I access the file from the directory
 display [like Windows Explorer in Wndows], it plays wonderfully.  In
 this case it is not using the plugin.

Your browser is not a full operating system. Your OS and your browser use
a differenet system to load multimedia files (a browser uses plugins to
call the players that are installed in your system).

  Anyway, I doubt your problem is generated by your plugin...
  I have to dispute my teacher.   Sorry.

Review your about:plugins.

  Done - no luck.

Mmm, maybe is that you had the wrong expectations.

You look at the about:plugins to know what library is in charge of
managing multimedia files. If you install a different plugin to handle
thsese files, you look here to check it has been properly installed and
detected by your browser.

 The only thing that works seems to be the object tag.

With a MS video container file (.avi)? Use a different one and your life
will be -by far- better.

 Additionally, I can not enable replay when the play button is pressed.

Still with this? :-? I already pointed you to the school site, what did
you learn from it? Nothing?

 Student is stumped. :'(

If you're still stuck at the same place, consider someone does the job
for you :-)

Greetings,

===
Dear Teacher -

Problem Solved.

Converted the files to mp4. :-[

Did I graduate?

Ethan
Dear Teacher -

Object tag does not support replay. 




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Re: [OT] HTML5 (was: Playing Videos)

2012-06-11 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:01:11 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

 At 02:17 PM 6/10/2012, Camaleón wrote:

With a MS video container file (.avi)? Use a different one and your life
will be -by far- better.

(...)

 Dear Teacher -
 
 Problem Solved.
 
 Converted the files to mp4. :-[

Thank to the gods :-)

Why you look so sad? I'd say AVI is even worse than SWF.

The video rendering problematic is prefectly explained in these links:

http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_videos.asp
http://www.w3schools.com/html5/html5_video.asp

And that's precisely what html5 and the video tag was aimed to solve, 
with more or less success.

 Did I graduate?

Mmm... and what happens with Firefox linux users? Be kind and provide an 
.ogv  webm or even a flash movie so they can render the video and 
you'll graduate with honours.
 
 Object tag does not support replay.

No, at least not directly. Depending on the media type (swf, mp4) you can 
use javascript to allow the user to interact with the video.

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Re: [OT] HTML5 (was: Playing Videos)

2012-06-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 00:28:49 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

Ethan, your reply quoting looks weird, I'll try to rearrange it :-?

 At 12:53 PM 6/8/2012, Camaleón wrote:

  1] I am trying to play a video using VLC.  If I call the video from a
  HTML5 document, it takes 90 seconds to load.  If I go directly to the
  directory where the video is located, it loads in about one second.

What's the html code you are using to load the video?

 embed src=Videos/DSCF0142.AVI  vspace=70 width=320 height=260 
 CONTROLLER=true LOOP=LOOP alt= AUTOPLAY=0 name=GingyVideo/embed
 
 Teacher -- Did I pass my test??  :-)

Nope, fail, sorry :-P

Why using embed instead video? For instance:

video src=TVideos/DSCF0142.AVI width=320 height=260 controls autoplay 
loop/video

According to the current html5 working draft, embed only allows a few set 
of specific attributes, in addition to the usuals:

http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tag_embed.asp

Have you tried with another media player to check if it happens the
same?

 Yes, same behavior.

Maybe the file is very big. How about the file size?

I'd do more testing, for example, use video tag, load a differnt file 
container other than AVI (e.g., .mpeg, .ogv...) and also run the tests 
with different browsers.

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Re: [OT] HTML5 (was: Playing Videos)

2012-06-10 Thread Ethan Rosenberg

At 07:17 AM 6/10/2012, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 00:28:49 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

Ethan, your reply quoting looks weird, I'll try to rearrange it :-?

 At 12:53 PM 6/8/2012, Camaleón wrote:

  1] I am trying to play a video using VLC.  If I call the video from a
  HTML5 document, it takes 90 seconds to load.  If I go directly to the
  directory where the video is located, it loads in about one second.

What's the html code you are using to load the video?

 embed src=Videos/DSCF0142.AVI  vspace=70 
width=320 height=260 CONTROLLER=true 
LOOP=LOOP alt= AUTOPLAY=0 name=GingyVideo/embed


 Teacher -- Did I pass my test??  :-)

Nope, fail, sorry :-P

Why using embed instead video? For instance:

video src=TVideos/DSCF0142.AVI width=320 
height=260 controls autoplay loop/video


According to the current html5 working draft, embed only allows a few set
of specific attributes, in addition to the usuals:

http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tag_embed.asp

Have you tried with another media player to check if it happens the
same?

 Yes, same behavior.

Maybe the file is very big. How about the file size?

I'd do more testing, for example, use video tag, load a differnt file
container other than AVI (e.g., .mpeg, .ogv...) and also run the tests
with different browsers.

Greetings,

--
Camaleón

=
Dear Teacher -

The video tag is poorly supported.  I tried just 
what you suggested and it does not work.  :-(


I have found out that Iceweasel is using the VLC 
plugin.  I cannot seem to find a way to force 
Iceweasel to use VLC.  My last resort would be to 
use a system call from PHP to run VLC from the command line.  Any ideas? :'(


Ethan 




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Re: [OT] HTML5 (was: Playing Videos)

2012-06-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:50:32 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

 At 07:17 AM 6/10/2012, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

I'd do more testing, for example, use video tag, load a differnt file
container other than AVI (e.g., .mpeg, .ogv...) and also run the tests
with different browsers.

 Dear Teacher -
 
 The video tag is poorly supported.  I tried just what you suggested and
 it does not work.  :-(

Video tag is supported in the newer versions of the usual browsers 
(Firerox, Chrome, Opera...). It works well here (Firefox 13) :-)

But if you prefer to stick to the older (x)html 4 spec just adjust your 
code and forget about html5. It's that simple.

Again, you have to return to school :-)

http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_videos.asp

Remember that not all the tags allow the video advanced options (control 
buttons, auto-load, loop...).

 I have found out that Iceweasel is using the VLC plugin.  I cannot seem
 to find a way to force Iceweasel to use VLC.  

What?! :-?

 My last resort would be to use a system call from PHP to run VLC from
 the command line.  Any ideas?
 :'(

My Firefox uses a Totem plugin for media files by means of libtotem-
basic-plugin.so. You can have whatever plugin you prefer but of course, 
you have to have the right packages installed. Anyway, I doubt your 
problem is generated by your plugin...

Review your about:plugins.

Greetings,

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Re: [OT] HTML5 (was: Playing Videos)

2012-06-10 Thread Ethan Rosenberg

At 12:11 PM 6/10/2012, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:50:32 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

 At 07:17 AM 6/10/2012, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

I'd do more testing, for example, use video tag, load a differnt file
container other than AVI (e.g., .mpeg, .ogv...) and also run the tests
with different browsers.

 Dear Teacher -

 The video tag is poorly supported.  I tried just what you suggested and
 it does not work.  :-(

Video tag is supported in the newer versions of the usual browsers
(Firerox, Chrome, Opera...). It works well here (Firefox 13) :-)

But if you prefer to stick to the older (x)html 4 spec just adjust your
code and forget about html5. It's that simple.

Again, you have to return to school :-)

http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_videos.asp

Remember that not all the tags allow the video advanced options (control
buttons, auto-load, loop...).

 I have found out that Iceweasel is using the VLC plugin.  I cannot seem
 to find a way to force Iceweasel to use VLC.

What?! :-?

 My last resort would be to use a system call from PHP to run VLC from
 the command line.  Any ideas?
 :'(

My Firefox uses a Totem plugin for media files by means of libtotem-
basic-plugin.so. You can have whatever plugin you prefer but of course,
you have to have the right packages installed. Anyway, I doubt your
problem is generated by your plugin...

Review your about:plugins.

Greetings,

--

=
Dear Teacher -


Video tag is supported in the newer versions of the usual browsers
(Firerox, Chrome, Opera...). It works well here (Firefox 13) :-)

Iceweasel 10.0.1 Does not work


 I have found out that Iceweasel is using the VLC plugin.  I cannot seem
 to find a way to force Iceweasel to use VLC.
If I access the file from the directory 
display [like Windows Explorer in Wndows], it 
plays wonderfully.  In this case it is not using the plugin.




 Anyway, I doubt your problem is generated by your plugin...

I have to dispute my teacher.   Sorry.


Review your about:plugins.


Done - no luck.

The only thing that works seems to be the 
object tag.  Additionally, I can not enable 
replay when the play button is pressed.


Student is stumped. :'(

Ethan




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Re: [OT] HTML5 (was: Playing Videos)

2012-06-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:47:09 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

 At 12:11 PM 6/10/2012, Camaleón wrote:

Video tag is supported in the newer versions of the usual browsers
(Firerox, Chrome, Opera...). It works well here (Firefox 13) :-)
  Iceweasel 10.0.1 Does not work

Provide fall-back alternatives. Use a different container. Use a 
different browser. Move it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video

  If I access the file from the directory
 display [like Windows Explorer in Wndows], it plays wonderfully.  In
 this case it is not using the plugin.

Your browser is not a full operating system. Your OS and your browser use 
a differenet system to load multimedia files (a browser uses plugins to 
call the players that are installed in your system).

  Anyway, I doubt your problem is generated by your plugin...
  I have to dispute my teacher.   Sorry.
 
Review your about:plugins.
 
  Done - no luck.

Mmm, maybe is that you had the wrong expectations.

You look at the about:plugins to know what library is in charge of 
managing multimedia files. If you install a different plugin to handle 
thsese files, you look here to check it has been properly installed and 
detected by your browser.

 The only thing that works seems to be the object tag.  

With a MS video container file (.avi)? Use a different one and your life 
will be -by far- better.

 Additionally, I can not enable replay when the play button is pressed.

Still with this? :-? I already pointed you to the school site, what did 
you learn from it? Nothing?

 Student is stumped. :'(

If you're still stuck at the same place, consider someone does the job 
for you :-)

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


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Re: [OT] HTML5 (was: Playing Videos)

2012-06-09 Thread Ethan Rosenberg

At 12:53 PM 6/8/2012, Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:32:03 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

 Dear List -

 If this is considered an HTML question, I apologize and please direct me
 to the correct forum for submission.

No problem, just tag the subject accordingly :-)

 1] I am trying to play a video using VLC.  If I call the video from a
 HTML5 document, it takes 90 seconds to load.  If I go directly to the
 directory where the video is located, it loads in about one second.

What's the html code you are using to load the video?

Have you tried with another media player to check if it happens the same?

 2] How do I give the user the option to replay the video?

You have to back to school :-P

http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tag_video.asp

(hint: controls)

Greetings,

--
Camaleón



Camaleon -

Thanks.


You have to back to school :-P


What's the html code you are using to load the video?

embed 
src=Videos/DSCF0142.AVI  vspace=70 
width=320 height=260 CONTROLLER=true 
LOOP=LOOP alt= AUTOPLAY=0 name=GingyVideo/embed


Teacher -- Did I pass my test??  :-)

Have you tried with another media player to check if it happens the same?

Yes, same behavior.

Ethan Rosenberg




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[OT] HTML5 (was: Playing Videos)

2012-06-08 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:32:03 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

 Dear List -
 
 If this is considered an HTML question, I apologize and please direct me
 to the correct forum for submission.

No problem, just tag the subject accordingly :-)

 1] I am trying to play a video using VLC.  If I call the video from a
 HTML5 document, it takes 90 seconds to load.  If I go directly to the
 directory where the video is located, it loads in about one second.

What's the html code you are using to load the video?

Have you tried with another media player to check if it happens the same?

 2] How do I give the user the option to replay the video?

You have to back to school :-P

http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tag_video.asp

(hint: controls)

Greetings,

-- 
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