Re: [PPP] Mulitple userids at one ISP
Jor-el writes: > I think you will have seen Peter's proposed solution on > debian-user to my problem. Not yet. > The trouble is that I cant figure out how it will work : nothing in ppp > or the current Debian PPP setup seems to allow differentiation of the PPP > daemon's behaviour depending upon the user that invoked 'pon'. Use this script instead of pon: /usr/sbin/pppd call $USER and create a provider named after each user. > 1. Setting up a different ISP for every user account at the ISP is > simply hair-raising maintenance wise. We're talking at cross-purposes a bit here, I think. I was assuming that you already had the multiple accounts and were attempting to deal with them. If your problem is multiple email addresses and a single ISP account, look into fetchmail's multidrop capability. > Then if I had another user genuinely dialing into a different ISP, or A > himself having another account on another ISP, would complicate the > issues. It would soon become impossible to keep track of the real ISP's > and the 'fake' ones. Nothing fake about any of them. Some just happen to be with the same ISP. Some sort of a simple naming convention should keep them sorted out for you. > 2. What would prevent B from dialing into A's account by executing 'pon > AC'? The fact that you have put /etc/ppp/peers/AC in group 'A' and /etc/ppp/peers/BC in group 'B'. > If by saying '... number of ways (none using pppconfig)' you meant that > the only solution is to hand-craft a PPP setup, then that is what I > propose to change. Perhaps you would like to revive the 'dunc' package? It did this sort of stuff. > The number one topic today that trips up newies is PPP configuration > (video cards and X setups come a close second). That doesn't seem to be the case with Debian. > I think it is important that pppconfig is expanded in features to handle > more cases. pppconfig is intended for new users. I assume that system administrators can handle the editing of a few rather simple config files. I try to handle the most common cases first. As you are the first to bring up this particular case, I must conclude that this is not a very common problem. I will consider it, but I don't wnat to bloat pppconfig by trying to cover every possible situation. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: [PPP] Mulitple userids at one ISP
John, I think you will have seen Peter's proposed solution on debian-user to my problem. The trouble is that I cant figure out how it will work : nothing in ppp or the current Debian PPP setup seems to allow differentiation of the PPP daemon's behaviour depending upon the user that invoked 'pon'. You asked the question : why did I think that my proposed solution was not 'clean'. Here is why : Assume that I have two users with email ids [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Their accounts on my box are A and B. Under my solution, I would have to set up two providers : AC and BC. When 'pon AC' is executed, one dials into A's ISP account, and when 'pon BC' is executed, one dials into B's ISP account. 1. Setting up a different ISP for every user account at the ISP is simply hair-raising maintenance wise. Then if I had another user genuinely dialing into a different ISP, or A himself having another account on another ISP, would complicate the issues. It would soon become impossible to keep track of the real ISP's and the 'fake' ones. 2. What would prevent B from dialing into A's account by executing 'pon AC'? If by saying '... number of ways (none using pppconfig)' you meant that the only solution is to hand-craft a PPP setup, then that is what I propose to change. The number one topic today that trips up newies is PPP configuration (video cards and X setups come a close second). I think it is important that pppconfig is expanded in features to handle more cases. Kenneth On 25 Mar 1999, John Hasler wrote: > > It seems to me that the current PPP initiation scripts do not allow one > > to maintain multiple accounts at one ISP for different users on the same > > dial-out machine. The only way I can think of doing it right now is to > > fake it by creating a separate 'provider' for each user even though the > > provider is the same. > > > Is there another, cleaner way of doing what I need to? > > There are quite a number of ways (none using pppconfig), but what strikes > you as unclean about the method you describe above? > > > If there isnt, I feel irritated enough about this to put in some code to > > get this working the way I want. Please advise. > > Do mean changes in pppconfig? If so send me your ideas and I will consider > putting them in pppconfig 2.0 (which will be in perl, unlike 1.2 which is > in sh). > -- > John Hasler > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) > Dancing Horse Hill > Elmwood, WI > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: [PPP] Mulitple userids at one ISP
> It seems to me that the current PPP initiation scripts do not allow one > to maintain multiple accounts at one ISP for different users on the same > dial-out machine. The only way I can think of doing it right now is to > fake it by creating a separate 'provider' for each user even though the > provider is the same. > Is there another, cleaner way of doing what I need to? There are quite a number of ways (none using pppconfig), but what strikes you as unclean about the method you describe above? > If there isnt, I feel irritated enough about this to put in some code to > get this working the way I want. Please advise. Do mean changes in pppconfig? If so send me your ideas and I will consider putting them in pppconfig 2.0 (which will be in perl, unlike 1.2 which is in sh). -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: [PPP] Mulitple userids at one ISP
Jor-el: Why not try creating separate PPP setups under separate shell accounts. Peter Jor-el wrote: > Hi, > > It seems to me that the current PPP initiation scripts do not > allow one to maintain multiple accounts at one ISP for different users on > the same dial-out machine. The only way I can think of doing it right now > is to fake it by creating a separate 'provider' for each user even though > the provider is the same. > > Is there another, cleaner way of doing what I need to? If there > isnt, I feel irritated enough about this to put in some code to get this > working the way I want. Please advise. > > Regards, > Jor-el > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null begin:vcard n:Iannarelli;Peter tel;fax:1+ 416 929 1056 tel;work:1+ 416 929 1885 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.GenXl.com org:GenX Internet Labs adr:;;238a Gerrard St. East;Toronto;ON;M5A 2E8;CA version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Engineer fn:Peter Iannarelli end:vcard
[PPP] Mulitple userids at one ISP
Hi, It seems to me that the current PPP initiation scripts do not allow one to maintain multiple accounts at one ISP for different users on the same dial-out machine. The only way I can think of doing it right now is to fake it by creating a separate 'provider' for each user even though the provider is the same. Is there another, cleaner way of doing what I need to? If there isnt, I feel irritated enough about this to put in some code to get this working the way I want. Please advise. Regards, Jor-el
