Re: [users] Re: a quickie

2001-05-25 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Leonard Leblanc (on Fri, 25 May 2001 10:32:36AM -0500):
 heh, you pretty much summed up my reaction.

so what does 114 days of uptime buy you?
does it matter that much???

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Re: [users] Re: a quickie

2001-05-25 Thread Paul Wright
 
 so what does 114 days of uptime buy you?


A sense of pride.


 does it matter that much???
 

To me, no.  To others, maybe.


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Re: [users] Re: a quickie

2001-05-25 Thread Rich Puhek
Also, if you're running, oh, say, and email or web server on you server
rack, you might be concerned if the server were rebooted, since the
service would be unavaliable for a while. On a heavily-loaded email
server with a large (ext2) mail partition with quota support enabled,
the checkquota proces alone will be intolerably long for the middle of
the day.

My suggestion: purchase a KVM. In my case, I've got a low-end 4-port KVM
on my racks. There are about 12 machines there, but most are running
Debian, so I rarely need a console connection on those. I leave windows
machines and our voice mail server attached to ports 1-3. Port 4 I have
as a roamer and attach to whichever Debian box I need at the moment
(had a machine that tended to lock up and segfault for instance).

By adding a KVM, not only have I eliminated the possibility of rebooting
a Linux machine when I intended to log into an NT server, I have also
largely emiminated having to rummage around the back side of the rack
swapping cables. I hadn't realized that was a problem until one of our
techs went through like a bull in a china shop and knocked the power
cord loose from my email server. Now, since I've made the NT boxes all a
pushbutton away, I'm the only one who ever needs to swap cables. Since I
had to clean up the mess whenever the mail server got abruptly booted, I
am much more careful than the people who caused the crashes.

As for pride:

SNMP station:
$ uptime
  5:38pm  up 272 days, 19:12,  1 user,  load average: 0.22, 0.59, 0.60
$

Utility web server/general use server:
$ uptime
  5:41pm  up 205 days, 18:26,  1 user,  load average: 1.03, 1.03, 1.00
$

mail server:
$ uptime
  5:42pm  up 285 days, 23:40,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
$

Web server:
$ uptime
  5:43pm  up 285 days, 23:38,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
$


... and people ask why we run Debian :-)

--Rich

Paul Wright wrote:
 
 
  so what does 114 days of uptime buy you?
 
 
 A sense of pride.
 
 
  does it matter that much???
 
 
 To me, no.  To others, maybe.
 
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 Paul T. Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -currently seeking employment-
 
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Rich Puhek   
ETN Systems Inc. 
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Re: [users] Re: a quickie - pride

2001-05-25 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya

   so what does 114 days of uptime buy you?
  
   
  A sense of pride.

it also means you';re NOT a windoze weanie that hits reset or powerdown
whenever you install a patch or upgrade etc...etc...

and to default pride a little those puppies been up for 1000 days+

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html

-- just cover the part of what OS they are running... at least its still
   open source...

have fun
alvin
http://www.Linux-1U.net 

planet:~# uptime
  4:06pm  up 429 days, 16:32,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
- mail server is NOT very busy now ...

- and watch out for the maximum time tick counter in 2.0.x kernels


 As for pride:
 
 SNMP station:
 $ uptime
   5:38pm  up 272 days, 19:12,  1 user,  load average: 0.22, 0.59, 0.60
 $
 
 Utility web server/general use server:
 $ uptime
   5:41pm  up 205 days, 18:26,  1 user,  load average: 1.03, 1.03, 1.00
 $
 
 mail server:
 $ uptime
   5:42pm  up 285 days, 23:40,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
 $
 
 Web server:
 $ uptime
   5:43pm  up 285 days, 23:38,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
 $
 
 
 ... and people ask why we run Debian :-)
 
 --Rich
 
 Paul Wright wrote:
  
  
   so what does 114 days of uptime buy you?
  
  
  A sense of pride.
  
  
   does it matter that much???
  
  
  To me, no.  To others, maybe.
  
  --
  Paul T. Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -currently seeking employment-
  
  --
 
 
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 Rich Puhek   
 ETN Systems Inc. 
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Re: [users] Re: a quickie - pride - deflate

2001-05-25 Thread Alvin Oga


 and to default pride a little those puppies been up for 1000 days+

oopps... 
deflate pride..

 http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html
 
 -- just cover the part of what OS they are running... at least its still
open source...