Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing

1997-11-12 Thread Dan Hugo
I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O
organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they
THINK about the technology in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that
the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious
reasons, given the limitations of that NDA).

I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O
hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether
a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works.  Since I don't
know much about I2O (I didn't feel like spending the $250 for a
temporary membership in their club... go figure), I wonder, if anyone
does know, is it all that great a technology ?

It really looks like I2O is a concerted effort to keep free software and
OS's like Linux off the first tier by making driver development even
harder.

Just wondering out loud

-dh


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Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing

1997-11-12 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny


On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Dan Hugo wrote:

 I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O
 organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they
 THINK about the technology in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that
 the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious
 reasons, given the limitations of that NDA).
 
 I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O
 hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether
 a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works.  Since I don't

I think that it is necessary, that hardware manufacturers want sell their
products to users of free OS's. I think they don't believe that this group
can really play a role on the market.
Maybe the OpenHardware project should be wider popularized...
http://www.debian.org/OpenHardware

 
 It really looks like I2O is a concerted effort to keep free software and
 OS's like Linux off the first tier by making driver development even
 harder.

As far as I know the initiator of I2O is M$... It explains everything.

Wojtek Zabolotny
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Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing

1997-11-12 Thread Marcus . Brinkmann

Hello!

The guys from I2O left the specifications a good while on their server for
anonymous ftp :)

Many people that writes hardware drivers for linux should have this
document, I can imagine there was a good rush on their server before they
removed the access to it...

I2O is neither a problem nor a matter for Linux...

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Dan Hugo wrote:

 I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O
 organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they
 THINK about the technology in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that
 the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious
 reasons, given the limitations of that NDA).
 
 I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O
 hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether
 a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works.  Since I don't
 know much about I2O (I didn't feel like spending the $250 for a
 temporary membership in their club... go figure), I wonder, if anyone
 does know, is it all that great a technology ?
 
 It really looks like I2O is a concerted effort to keep free software and
 OS's like Linux off the first tier by making driver development even
 harder.
 
 Just wondering out loud
 
 -dh
 
 
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Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing

1997-11-12 Thread Bruce Perens
The i20 group left their specification on their anonymous FTP server and we
all have a copy now. They then took it back off the server. Go figure. We
have no problem with them now, there is no possible non-disclosure case
and when the hardware comes out we will write drivers for it.

Thanks

Bruce 
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Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing

1997-11-12 Thread Louis Larry


On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote:

 On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Dan Hugo wrote:
 
  I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O
  organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they
  THINK about the technology in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that
  the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious
  reasons, given the limitations of that NDA).
  
  I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O
  hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether
  a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works.  Since I don't
 
 I think that it is necessary, that hardware manufacturers want sell their
 products to users of free OS's. I think they don't believe that this group
 can really play a role on the market.
 Maybe the OpenHardware project should be wider popularized...
 http://www.debian.org/OpenHardware

http://open-i2o.abies.com/

Louis.


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