Re: .deb / dpkg for dummies
At first, hello everyone - I subscribed yesterday. You know, every time since the beginning of my adventure with linux (about 1998) I get this message try man *. it's pointless you know? Every man who is familiar with linux is aware that there is something like manpages there. When someone ask for a tip then he is awaiting for a tip and not sentence which means in simply words - You're stupid, and you've got lice on your navel. In other words. I would like to read something simplified first, see some effects which can make me a _hero_ in my own eyes and _then_ go deeper (man pages in this case). Sorry, but manpages are long, complicated and discouraging for newbies. It's definitely better to recommend some simple web guide first. What develops curiosity in linux word is success IMO. Anyway.. Check manpage is like check google. When we're looking for answer, we can find only thousands of check google answers in google. That's the effect. No offence. That's only my opinion and I think it's like fight with windmills anyway. :) On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Alex Mestiashvili a...@biotec.tu-dresden.de wrote: On 11/27/2011 07:53 PM, Rogelio wrote: Is there a good overview on how to really use these tools? I simply copy/paste commands all the time, and I'm hoping for some sort of primer or tutorial that helps be able to do this from scratch without a cheat sheet. Hi , I think the simplest way to learn something is to look up a man page each time something isn't clear . The documentation is already on your system - man dpkg . Have a nice day , Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ed33d77.90...@biotec.tu-dresden.de
Re: .deb / dpkg for dummies
On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Piotr Wydymus wrote: At first, hello everyone - I subscribed yesterday. Hi, Piotr, and welcome. Sorry, but manpages are long, complicated and discouraging for newbies. No, manpages aren't for newbies. But they aren't for oldbies either -- they're intended as reminders for when you already know what a command is for, but can't quite remember the correct syntax. They're great for that, but can be less than optimal for learning. It's definitely better to recommend some simple web guide first. What develops curiosity in linux word is success IMO. I've learned a lot from Martin Krafft's book, The Debian System. It's not a website, and it's a little long in the tooth, but it has a lot of good info on the apt/dpkg/.deb collection (among other things). Apt doesn't seem to have changed significantly since the book was written. -- Glenn English -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2a2e467d-7a6c-47f3-8f9c-f5e931c14...@slsware.com
Re: .deb / dpkg for dummies
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:26:36 +0100, Piotr Wydymus wrote: At first, hello everyone - I subscribed yesterday. Please don't: a) Top post b) Post HTML Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jb0q6m$f2q$1...@dough.gmane.org
.deb / dpkg for dummies
Is there a good overview on how to really use these tools? I simply copy/paste commands all the time, and I'm hoping for some sort of primer or tutorial that helps be able to do this from scratch without a cheat sheet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ed28725.1040...@gmail.com
Re: .deb / dpkg for dummies
On Sun 27 Nov 2011 at 10:53:25 -0800, Rogelio wrote: Is there a good overview on how to really use these tools? A search with 'dpkg cheat sheet' should get you something useful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2027191643.GN3655@desktop
Re: .deb / dpkg for dummies
Hi There is also great (freely available) chapter from debian administrators handbook [1]. it is more in-depth i guess, but it gives great overview of whole package management process. recommended. 1. http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/11/15/20-things-to-learn-with-the-free-chapter-of-the-debian-administrators-handbook/ Regards - Roman On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a good overview on how to really use these tools? I simply copy/paste commands all the time, and I'm hoping for some sort of primer or tutorial that helps be able to do this from scratch without a cheat sheet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.**debian.orgdebian-user-requ...@lists.debian.orgwith a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**4ed28725.1040...@gmail.comhttp://lists.debian.org/4ed28725.1040...@gmail.com
Re: .deb / dpkg for dummies
and also, debian reference card. Regards - Roman On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Roman Khomasuridze khomasuri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi There is also great (freely available) chapter from debian administrators handbook [1]. it is more in-depth i guess, but it gives great overview of whole package management process. recommended. 1. http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/11/15/20-things-to-learn-with-the-free-chapter-of-the-debian-administrators-handbook/ Regards - Roman On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a good overview on how to really use these tools? I simply copy/paste commands all the time, and I'm hoping for some sort of primer or tutorial that helps be able to do this from scratch without a cheat sheet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.**debian.orgdebian-user-requ...@lists.debian.orgwith a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**4ed28725.1040...@gmail.comhttp://lists.debian.org/4ed28725.1040...@gmail.com
Re: .deb / dpkg for dummies
On 11/27/2011 07:53 PM, Rogelio wrote: Is there a good overview on how to really use these tools? I simply copy/paste commands all the time, and I'm hoping for some sort of primer or tutorial that helps be able to do this from scratch without a cheat sheet. Hi , I think the simplest way to learn something is to look up a man page each time something isn't clear . The documentation is already on your system - man dpkg . Have a nice day , Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ed33d77.90...@biotec.tu-dresden.de
