Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
David Stern wrote: I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? Keith Beattie wrote: I think one of the possible reasons why tools like this are so rare is because postscript and pdf are *intended* to be final, read-only, printer-(not human)-friendly formats. I was looking for a postscript editor several years back and couldn't find anything (other than emacs). Months after giving up I finally understood the cryptic answer the local guru gave me: you're asking the wrong question. The (unsatisfactory) is to get the source document from which the ps or pdf was generated, edit *that*, then generate your new ps or pdf in the usuall way. If all you have is the ps or pdf, perhaps that too is intentional... Luck, Keith Still another (unsatisfactory) solution. In the past, with no conversion utility handy, I displayed the postscript file in one window and coppied/Pasted it to my favorite editor in another window. I've done this many times on the VAX with Xwindows and surprised my friends with less capable windowing systems by providing them with a file they could edit. John C. Ellingboe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.ps or .pdf editing app
Hi, I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? I've tried converting to .eps and editing in tgif, however that renders the whole form illegible. I've always seen ps and pdf viewers, never editors. That just doesn't seem right. If this is off-topic, I apologize. -- David Stern -- http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, David Stern wrote: Hi, I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? I've tried converting to .eps and editing in tgif, however that renders the whole form illegible. I've always seen ps and pdf viewers, never editors. That just doesn't seem right. If this is off-topic, I apologize. I dont know about .ps files, but I understand .pdf to be a format Adobe created, for use with Adobe Acrobat. You have to Buy Adobe Acrobat.. and it is expensive. (Again, I am not sure, but I think it is only available for MacOS and Windows..). The Adobe Acrobat Reader is free though.. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- If it doesn't work, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway. --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
Hi, I used to edit raw postscript (writing display postscript on an old unix box), and I used emacs+postscript mode. (I fail to see how the fonts one uses in the postscript program has anything to do with the editor). However, if you need to edit machine generated postscript using something that parses it, presents it to you, and re-generates postscript, Umm, I don't know if there is any such beast out there. Postscript is a fairly complete programming language, and it only a postscript engine can understand what the output should look like. By the time the engines is done, you have a description of each non-background pixel on the page (some hidden behind others and so on). Umm, to get the text back you need to run an OCR on the data. Also, an elegant 5 lines of postscript code can generate fairly complex final output, so it is as hard to reverse engineer postscript as is C++. What I am bumbling around trying to say is that this is quite hard. I have never seen a product, on any OS, that does something like this. Having said that, I realize that a dozen people shall now jump out and prove how wrong I am, and that would answer your question. manoj who still has the red and blue books ;-). -- I think for the most part that the readership here uses the c-word in a similar fashion. I don't think anybody really believes in a new, revolution- ary literature --- I think they use `cyberpunk' as a term of convenience to discuss the common stylistic elements in a small subset of recent sf books. Jeff G. Bone Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes: I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? I've tried converting to .eps and editing in tgif, however that renders the whole form illegible. I've always seen ps and pdf viewers, never editors. That just doesn't seem right. If this is off-topic, I apologize. Alladin Ghostscript seems to have decent support for going between Postscript and PDF. You can edit Postscript by hand with an editor, if you want. I think PDF is a binary format. I don't think you'll see too many tools to graphically edit raw Postscript files though - as it is an interpreted language based on Forth - it's much more complicated than just a bunch of vectors. I'd like to see a vector drawing package that could import EPS/PS graphics, and allow editing on that. Maybe the GNU Yellow Vector Editor project from Japan will eventually allow this (I haven't tried it yet): http://bandits.aist-nara.ac.jp/~masata-y/gyve/gyve.html I'd be interested in knowing which other ones people have experience with. I've only used xfig. The Gimp can read in EPS, I think - but then you would just get a big ugly bitmap. You might be able to use something like CorelDraw. Cheers, - Jim pgp56u8YIlC7E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Editing (e)ps graphics (was Re: .ps or .pdf editing app)
On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 01:36:59AM -0800, Jim Pick wrote: I'd like to see a vector drawing package that could import EPS/PS graphics, and allow editing on that. Package: pstoedit Section: graphics Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/graphics/pstoedit_2.60-1.1.deb Description: Converts ps files into edditable files for xfig/tgif, pstoedit allows to convert Postscript(TM) files to a simple vector graphic format, that can be edited. Currently tgif, xfig, and Framemaker(TM) (MIF-format) and flat PostScript are supported. pstoedit works by redefining the basic painting operators of Postscript. Others like image are not supported. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? Try the pstoedit package. I'm not sure if it will do exactly what you want, but it's worth a try. For example, you can do: pstoedit -f fig filename.ps and it will convert it as best it is able, to an xfig format file. It worked quite well for some stuff I was doing. That's for postscript - I don't know about pdf - what's the difference, anyone? Cheers, Mark. __ _\/___\__/___Mark_Phillips___/ \__/_\__/--\__/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ \__/HE___\__/--APTAIN/ \__/_\__/--\__/__/ /__To be is to do.__I. Kant___/ \__/__\__/___/ /__To do is to be.__A. Sartre_/ /__I am.God___/ /__Jesus did.___/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes: Hi, I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? Idraw (in ivtools-bin) generates and reads postscript. I've never tried to read in postscript that it didn't generate, however. It probably only supports it's own subset, but you might want to try it out. Later, Dale -- + finger for pgp public key -+ | Dale E. Martin | University of Cincinnati Savant Research Laboratory | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.ececs.uc.edu/~dmartin | +--+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .ps or .pdf editing app
David Stern wrote: I've tried a lot of editing apps (and conversion utilities) in hamm, but I can't find one that edits postscript or acrobat files. Does anyone know what package I can use to edit a ps or pdf form that uses Times-Roman fonts in a variety of point sizes, with some lines (no graphics)? I think one of the possible reasons why tools like this are so rare is because postscript and pdf are *intended* to be final, read-only, printer-(not human)-friendly formats. I was looking for a postscript editor several years back and couldn't find anything (other than emacs). Months after giving up I finally understood the cryptic answer the local guru gave me: you're asking the wrong question. The (unsatisfactory) solution is to get the source document from which the ps or pdf was generated, edit *that*, then generate your new ps or pdf in the usuall way. If all you have is the ps or pdf, perhaps that too is intentional... Luck, Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
