Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 28 mar 11, 20:05:22, Brian wrote:
 On Mon 28 Mar 2011 at 16:32:08 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 
  On Du, 27 mar 11, 14:54:37, Brian wrote:
   This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A
   default Debian installation doesn't have it.
  
  Highly unlikely since grub-common recommends it.
 
 You're very diplomatic :). 'Impossible' would be more accurate than
 'Highly unlikely'. Am I allowed to edit my mail? Delete 'default' and
 substitute 'may not' for 'doesn't'.

Let me be the devil's advocate: I imagine a 
network/mirror/media/hardware problem during the install could prevent 
os-prober from getting installed ;)

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Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-29 Thread Brian
On Tue 29 Mar 2011 at 14:33:34 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

 Let me be the devil's advocate: I imagine a 
 network/mirror/media/hardware problem during the install could prevent 
 os-prober from getting installed ;)

It is good to know the Devil is still not omniscient and disappointing
his advocate is lacking his usual imaginative skills :).

One of my standard boot parameters for an install is 'recommends=false'.


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Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 29 mar 11, 20:09:43, Brian wrote:
 
 It is good to know the Devil is still not omniscient and disappointing
 his advocate is lacking his usual imaginative skills :).
 
 One of my standard boot parameters for an install is 'recommends=false'.

Not so fast, we were talking about default install. Custom media and 
pre-seeding are also off limits :p

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Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 27 mar 11, 14:54:37, Brian wrote:
 On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 14:59:41 +0200, Estelmann, Christian wrote:
 
  2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run update-grub2.
  os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux
 
 This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A
 default Debian installation doesn't have it.

Highly unlikely since grub-common recommends it.

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Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-28 Thread Brian
On Mon 28 Mar 2011 at 16:32:08 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

 On Du, 27 mar 11, 14:54:37, Brian wrote:
  This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A
  default Debian installation doesn't have it.
 
 Highly unlikely since grub-common recommends it.

You're very diplomatic :). 'Impossible' would be more accurate than
'Highly unlikely'. Am I allowed to edit my mail? Delete 'default' and
substitute 'may not' for 'doesn't'.


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Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-28 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-03-28, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 On Mon 28 Mar 2011 at 16:32:08 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

 On Du, 27 mar 11, 14:54:37, Brian wrote:
  This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A
  default Debian installation doesn't have it.
 
 Highly unlikely since grub-common recommends it.

 You're very diplomatic :). 'Impossible' would be more accurate than
 'Highly unlikely'. Am I allowed to edit my mail? Delete 'default' and
 substitute 'may not' for 'doesn't'.

If you were using MS Outlook, you could recall your mail ;-)

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Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-28 Thread Erwan David
Le Mon 28/03/2011, Liam O'Toole disait
 On 2011-03-28, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
  On Mon 28 Mar 2011 at 16:32:08 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 
  On Du, 27 mar 11, 14:54:37, Brian wrote:
   This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A
   default Debian installation doesn't have it.
  
  Highly unlikely since grub-common recommends it.
 
  You're very diplomatic :). 'Impossible' would be more accurate than
  'Highly unlikely'. Am I allowed to edit my mail? Delete 'default' and
  substitute 'may not' for 'doesn't'.
 
 If you were using MS Outlook, you could recall your mail ;-)

No. You can do this only for an email staying on the local exchange server...



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2 sample questions

2011-03-27 Thread hamed hosseini
1.how can i install firefox in debian 6?
2.how can i edit GRUB BOOT,(i have 2 os,win 7 and debian),i want win7 is
first,and debian is secon?


Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-27 Thread Estelmann, Christian

Am 27.03.2011 14:50, schrieb hamed hosseini:

1.how can i install firefox in debian 6?
2.how can i edit GRUB BOOT,(i have 2 os,win 7 and debian),i want win7 
is first,and debian is secon? 


1. apt-get install iceweasel
In Debian Firefox is rename to Iceweasel.

2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run update-grub2.
os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux


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Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-27 Thread hamed hosseini
thank you,can you explain more about question 2 about GRUB,i don't
understand

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Estelmann, Christian
c.estelm...@gmx.netwrote:

 Am 27.03.2011 14:50, schrieb hamed hosseini:

  1.how can i install firefox in debian 6?
 2.how can i edit GRUB BOOT,(i have 2 os,win 7 and debian),i want win7 is
 first,and debian is secon?


 1. apt-get install iceweasel
 In Debian Firefox is rename to Iceweasel.

 2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run update-grub2.
 os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux


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Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-27 Thread Estelmann, Christian
Become root (for example by using the command su), then run mv 
/etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober and update-grub2. 
Or run both commands with sudo (sudo mv... and sudo update-grub2).


When executing update-grub2 all scripts in /etc/grub.d/ are executed, in 
order of their names. os-prober looks for other OS (like Win). linux is 
adding your available kernels to the list.


Am 27.03.2011 15:02, schrieb hamed hosseini:
thank you,can you explain more about question 2 about GRUB,i don't 
understand


On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Estelmann, Christian 
c.estelm...@gmx.net mailto:c.estelm...@gmx.net wrote:


Am 27.03.2011 14 tel:27.03.2011%2014:50, schrieb hamed hosseini:

2.how can i edit GRUB BOOT,(i have 2 os,win 7 and debian),i
want win7 is first,and debian is secon?


2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run
update-grub2.
os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux



Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-27 Thread Brian
On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 14:59:41 +0200, Estelmann, Christian wrote:

 2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run update-grub2.
 os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux

This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A
default Debian installation doesn't have it.


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Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-27 Thread hamed hosseini
brian how can do thar ,without os-prober package,or how can install
os-prober,i need easy way,i am new in debian

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 14:59:41 +0200, Estelmann, Christian wrote:

  2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run
 update-grub2.
  os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux

 This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A
 default Debian installation doesn't have it.


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Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-27 Thread Estelmann, Christian

Install it with 'apt-get install os-prober'.

I only have installed Debian on my subnotebook, so I can not try it...
But if you are having a file with something like windows as name in 
/etc/grub.d/ just rename ist to something like 09_windows, like I have 
written before about the os-prober.



Am 27.03.2011 16:18, schrieb hamed hosseini:
brian how can do thar ,without os-prober package,or how can install 
os-prober,i need easy way,i am new in debian


On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk 
mailto:a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:


On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 14:59:41 +0200, Estelmann, Christian wrote:

 2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run
update-grub2.
 os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux

This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A
default Debian installation doesn't have it.



Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-27 Thread Brian
On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 17:20:53 +0430, hamed hosseini wrote:

 2.how can i edit GRUB BOOT,(i have 2 os,win 7 and debian),i want win7 is
 first,and debian is secon?

1. Open the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg. The command

less /boot/grub/grub.cfg

   in a terminal would do it.

2. Find lines which begin with the word menuentry and look for one
   which is do with Windows. e.g. Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)

3. Copy that. Just the bit between menuentry and the {.

4. Open the file /etc/default/grub in an editor. The command

nano /etc/default/grub

   would do it.

5. Replace the line

GRUB_DEFAULT=0

   with

GRUB_DEFAULT=what_you_copied_from_grub.cfg

   e.g  GRUB_DEFAULT=Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)

6. Execute the command update-grub.


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Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-27 Thread hamed hosseini
thanks

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Estelmann, Christian
c.estelm...@gmx.netwrote:

  Install it with 'apt-get install os-prober'.

 I only have installed Debian on my subnotebook, so I can not try it...
 But if you are having a file with something like windows as name in
 /etc/grub.d/ just rename ist to something like 09_windows, like I have
 written before about the os-prober.


 Am 27.03.2011 16:18, schrieb hamed hosseini:

 brian how can do thar ,without os-prober package,or how can install
 os-prober,i need easy way,i am new in debian

 On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 14:59:41 +0200, Estelmann, Christian wrote:

  2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run
 update-grub2.
  os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux

  This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A
 default Debian installation doesn't have it.




Re: 2 sample questions

2011-03-27 Thread Brian
On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 18:48:33 +0430, hamed hosseini wrote:

 brian how can do thar ,without os-prober package,or how can install
 os-prober,i need easy way,i am new in debian

Have you got a file named 30_otheros in /etc/grub.d? Move that to
09_otheros and you will not need os-prober.


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