Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-12 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Colin wrote:

 Cassiano Leal wrote:
 
 I have a 4312 myself. Only way I can use the card is via the hybrid wl
 driver found here:
 http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
 
 Unfortunately, it's not free. It works, though...
 
 That's what the broadcom-sta package worked with and it worked fine for
 me too.  Unfortunately, that package is no longer available in the
 distribution.

Exactly the same problem wit ha friend of mine who has a acer aspire eeepc
or however it's called. he installed ubuntu but couldn't use the network
card becausee of a bug with the card ids. I helped him install latest
kernel 2.6.31.5 but then wireless was not working. I think his id was 4315.
Reading about the issue I downloaded the wl driver from the broadcom
webpage compiled/installed and it worked.
So currently this should be the solution

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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-10 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 11:21:39PM -0200, Cassiano Leal wrote:
 2009/11/9 Colin cwvca_spam...@hotmail.com:
  Alex Samad wrote:
 
  On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 10:27:22AM -0200, Cassiano Leal wrote:
 
  2009/11/7 Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au:
  And here's the wiki page explaining the whole process. It's quite
  simple and quick to follow through.
 
  http://wiki.debian.org/wl
 
  yeah and that great, but my whinge was that it was orphaned really
  fast because it did not compile against the 2.6.31 kernel and that
 the
 
 It does. I have compiled and am using it against a 2.6.31 kernel.
 
  inline b43 will handle the cards - well there is a new upstream and the
  b43 doesn't handle all the cards.
 
 My case. b43 does not support my card...
 


does any one still have the src package from broadcom-sta or know where
I can get the last good copy.

I want to update the package with the new broadcom version, because i
like using packages to install extra modules - much better than the
suggested mkdir cp method on the wiki

 

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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-09 Thread Colin

Alex Samad wrote:

On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 10:27:22AM -0200, Cassiano Leal wrote:

2009/11/7 Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au:
And here's the wiki page explaining the whole process. It's quite
simple and quick to follow through.

http://wiki.debian.org/wl

yeah and that great, but my whinge was that it was orphaned really
fast because it did not compile against the 2.6.31 kernel and that the
inline b43 will handle the cards - well there is a new upstream and the
b43 doesn't handle all the cards.

I am just wondering why we were so quick to jump.


Yeah, I agree with that especially when there is no 2.6.31 kernel in 
squeeze. I tried the instructions from the web page above and it worked 
like a charm.  I think I'll let someone else be the guinea pig for the 
b43 driver.



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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-09 Thread Cassiano Leal
2009/11/9 Colin cwvca_spam...@hotmail.com:
 Alex Samad wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 10:27:22AM -0200, Cassiano Leal wrote:

 2009/11/7 Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au:
 And here's the wiki page explaining the whole process. It's quite
 simple and quick to follow through.

 http://wiki.debian.org/wl

 yeah and that great, but my whinge was that it was orphaned really
 fast because it did not compile against the 2.6.31 kernel and that
the

It does. I have compiled and am using it against a 2.6.31 kernel.

 inline b43 will handle the cards - well there is a new upstream and the
 b43 doesn't handle all the cards.

My case. b43 does not support my card...


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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-08 Thread Cassiano Leal
2009/11/7 Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au:
 On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 04:46:52PM -0500, Colin wrote:
 Cassiano Leal wrote:

 I have a 4312 myself. Only way I can use the card is via the hybrid wl
 driver found here:
 http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
 
 Unfortunately, it's not free. It works, though...

 That's what the broadcom-sta package worked with and it worked fine
 for me too.  Unfortunately, that package is no longer available in
 the distribution.

 why are the maintaners so fast in dropping things like this, I rely upon
 this, and b43 is supporting my wifi card yet

And here's the wiki page explaining the whole process. It's quite
simple and quick to follow through.

http://wiki.debian.org/wl

Hope that helps.

Cassiano


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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-08 Thread Alex Samad
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 10:27:22AM -0200, Cassiano Leal wrote:
 2009/11/7 Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au:
  On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 04:46:52PM -0500, Colin wrote:
  Cassiano Leal wrote:
 
  I have a 4312 myself. Only way I can use the card is via the hybrid wl
  driver found here:
  http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
  
  Unfortunately, it's not free. It works, though...
 
  That's what the broadcom-sta package worked with and it worked fine
  for me too.  Unfortunately, that package is no longer available in
  the distribution.
 
  why are the maintaners so fast in dropping things like this, I rely upon
  this, and b43 is supporting my wifi card yet
 
 And here's the wiki page explaining the whole process. It's quite
 simple and quick to follow through.
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/wl
yeah and that great, but my whinge was that it was orphaned really
fast because it did not compile against the 2.6.31 kernel and that the
inline b43 will handle the cards - well there is a new upstream and the
b43 doesn't handle all the cards.

I am just wondering why we were so quick to jump.

and it great that somebody created a wiki page with instructions on who
to build the broadcom source

 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Cassiano
 
 

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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-07 Thread Colin

Cassiano Leal wrote:


I have a 4312 myself. Only way I can use the card is via the hybrid wl
driver found here:
http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php

Unfortunately, it's not free. It works, though...


That's what the broadcom-sta package worked with and it worked fine for 
me too.  Unfortunately, that package is no longer available in the 
distribution.



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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-07 Thread Alex Samad
On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 04:46:52PM -0500, Colin wrote:
 Cassiano Leal wrote:
 
 I have a 4312 myself. Only way I can use the card is via the hybrid wl
 driver found here:
 http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
 
 Unfortunately, it's not free. It works, though...
 
 That's what the broadcom-sta package worked with and it worked fine
 for me too.  Unfortunately, that package is no longer available in
 the distribution.

why are the maintaners so fast in dropping things like this, I rely upon
this, and b43 is supporting my wifi card yet 

 
 

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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-04 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας

Colin wrote:

Alex Samad wrote:

isn't there some issue with the broadcom-sta drivers and .31 ?



The broadcom-sta source code that was included in non-free Debian 
would no longer compile with kernel 2.6.31.  That's why they've been 
working on the b43 driver extensively in the 2.6.32 kernel so the 
broadcom-sta driver will no longer be necessary.





So, if I understand correctly, I should not upgrade to 2.6.31 stock 
kernel, when that is released for testing, right?


Giorgos



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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-04 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 07:53:15PM -0500, Colin wrote:
 Alex Samad wrote:
 isn't there some issue with the broadcom-sta drivers and .31 ?
 
 
 The broadcom-sta source code that was included in non-free Debian
 would no longer compile with kernel 2.6.31.  That's why they've been
 working on the b43 driver extensively in the 2.6.32 kernel so the
 broadcom-sta driver will no longer be necessary.
any idea what the status is

 
 

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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-04 Thread Colin

Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:


So, if I understand correctly, I should not upgrade to 2.6.31 stock 
kernel, when that is released for testing, right?




From what I heard, there won't be a 2.6.31 for testing, only a 2.6.32 
when it's ready.



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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-04 Thread Colin

Alex Samad wrote:

On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 07:53:15PM -0500, Colin wrote:

The broadcom-sta source code that was included in non-free Debian
would no longer compile with kernel 2.6.31.  That's why they've been
working on the b43 driver extensively in the 2.6.32 kernel so the
broadcom-sta driver will no longer be necessary.



any idea what the status is


I've tried 2.6.32-rc5 on my HP Mini 1033cl and it's not working reliably 
yet.  I get a bunch of DMA errors in the system log whenever I try and 
use it.  I've just downloaded 2.6.32-rc6 and going to give that a whirl.



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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-03 Thread Colin

Alex Samad wrote:

isn't there some issue with the broadcom-sta drivers and .31 ?



The broadcom-sta source code that was included in non-free Debian would 
no longer compile with kernel 2.6.31.  That's why they've been working 
on the b43 driver extensively in the 2.6.32 kernel so the broadcom-sta 
driver will no longer be necessary.



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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-02 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Dave Witbrodt wrote:

 My impression is that the kernel team considers 2.6.31 to have been a
 bit buggier than usual, but they are feeling better about 2.6.32 and
 plan to use it for Squeeze (when released).
 

I've just compiled and installed .31.5 (from kernel.org) and it seems my
notebook likes it.

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2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-02 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Emanoil Kotsev put forth on 11/2/2009 3:48 PM:
 Dave Witbrodt wrote:
 
 My impression is that the kernel team considers 2.6.31 to have been a
 bit buggier than usual, but they are feeling better about 2.6.32 and
 plan to use it for Squeeze (when released).

 
 I've just compiled and installed .31.5 (from kernel.org) and it seems my
 notebook likes it.

Running a customized (stripped) little 2.6.31.1 from kernel.org under
Lenny since Oct 3, on an old dual 550MHz i440BX board.  Fairly stripped
down install running a Postfix mail firewall and Lighty.  Been running
great, no issues.  I've probably got everything stripped out that was on
the kernel team's buggy list. ;)  My vmlinuz is only 1.1MB and all my
drivers (two--disk and NIC) are compiled in.  I actually went so far as
to strip module support completely out of the kernel.  No initramfs, no
this, no that.  Pretty lean and mean kernel.

--
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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-02 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 
 Running a customized (stripped) little 2.6.31.1 from kernel.org under
 Lenny since Oct 3, on an old dual 550MHz i440BX board.  Fairly stripped
 down install running a Postfix mail firewall and Lighty.  Been running
 great, no issues.  I've probably got everything stripped out that was on
 the kernel team's buggy list. ;)  My vmlinuz is only 1.1MB and all my
 drivers (two--disk and NIC) are compiled in.  I actually went so far as
 to strip module support completely out of the kernel.  No initramfs, no
 this, no that.  Pretty lean and mean kernel.
 
 --
 Stan

sounds cute. 

In fact I'm using the code from kernel org most of the time, because of the
exact same reason. Except stripping off a lot of code you don't need you
can optimize (fine tune) specifically for the machine you are using.

But back to the topic. The 2.6.30 line was really buggy :-) at least for me.
But this (2.6.31.5) seems to be useful.

I'm using it on a notebook Dell D520 (lenny).

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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-02 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:29:54PM +0100, Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 
  
  Running a customized (stripped) little 2.6.31.1 from kernel.org under
  Lenny since Oct 3, on an old dual 550MHz i440BX board.  Fairly stripped
  down install running a Postfix mail firewall and Lighty.  Been running
  great, no issues.  I've probably got everything stripped out that was on
  the kernel team's buggy list. ;)  My vmlinuz is only 1.1MB and all my
  drivers (two--disk and NIC) are compiled in.  I actually went so far as
  to strip module support completely out of the kernel.  No initramfs, no
  this, no that.  Pretty lean and mean kernel.
  
  --
  Stan
 
 sounds cute. 
 
 In fact I'm using the code from kernel org most of the time, because of the
 exact same reason. Except stripping off a lot of code you don't need you
 can optimize (fine tune) specifically for the machine you are using.
 
 But back to the topic. The 2.6.30 line was really buggy :-) at least for me.
 But this (2.6.31.5) seems to be useful.

isn't there some issue with the broadcom-sta drivers and .31 ?

 
 I'm using it on a notebook Dell D520 (lenny).
 
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2.6.31 kernels

2009-10-22 Thread David Baron
Are these going to be released to SId?

Repos still list rc6-experimental. I have seen references to 2.6.31.4 !


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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-10-22 Thread Tim Tebbit
David Baron wrote:
 Are these going to be released to SId?
 
 Repos still list rc6-experimental. I have seen references to 2.6.31.4 !
 
 

I don't pay close attention to what is in the repos, but I don't recall
seeing an odd numbered packaged by the Debian kernel team. I could be
wrong though. The references to 2.6.31.4 are referring to the current
stable linux kernel available at http://www.kernel.org/ . The latest
message I read from the Kernel Team indicated 2.6.32 would be included
in Squeeze.¹ So obviously Sid will see that before it enters Squeeze.

Compiling your own is not very difficult.² Have a look at the package
'kernel-package' and read over it's documentation. Of course google
seems to know everything.

¹ http://lwn.net/Articles/357623/
² http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html


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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-10-22 Thread Nate Bargmann
2.6.29 was in Sid for a while earlier this year.  Obviously the kernel
team has their reasons why the 2.6.31 kernel isn't in Sid ATM, but I
doubt the 31 of the current stable version is the reason.

Under the old kernel development method prior to the 2.6 series the
so-called odd kernels (1.1, 1.3, 2.1, 2.3, and 2.5) were not routinely
included in Debian as a stable candidate.  The third set of digits
(0-xx) don't have a bearing on Debian inclusion beyond simple
suitability for use/bugs, etc.  At least that's how I understand it.

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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-10-22 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 22 October 2009 19:23:39 debian-user-digest-
requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
  Are these going to be released to SId?
  
  Repos still list rc6-experimental. I have seen references to 2.6.31.4 !
  
  
 
 I don't pay close attention to what is in the repos, but I don't recall
 seeing an odd numbered packaged by the Debian kernel team. I could be
 wrong though. The references to 2.6.31.4 are referring to the current
 stable linux kernel available at http://www.kernel.org/ . The latest
 message I read from the Kernel Team indicated 2.6.32 would be included
 in Squeeze.¹ So obviously Sid will see that before it enters Squeeze.
 
 Compiling your own is not very difficult.² Have a look at the package
 'kernel-package' and read over it's documentation. Of course google
 seems to know everything.
 

There are 2.6.32-rc's around as well, but not on Debian.
Why should there not be current stable kernel version on Debian?

I always compile my own. Question is that if Debian is keeping it back, is it 
safe.

Another question--what do you do with kbuild packages? I have those for the 
2.6.31.4 with rt patch 14 as well which I do want.


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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-10-22 Thread Dave Witbrodt

David Baron wrote:

There are 2.6.32-rc's around as well, but not on Debian.
Why should there not be current stable kernel version on Debian?

I always compile my own. Question is that if Debian is keeping it back, is it 
safe.


Version 2.6.31 is available in experimental.  You can use 
'kernel-package' with Debian kernel sources from unstable or 
experimental, or even with upstream source from tarballs or git.


My impression is that the kernel team considers 2.6.31 to have been a 
bit buggier than usual, but they are feeling better about 2.6.32 and 
plan to use it for Squeeze (when released).


I was using the kernel team's test-package server, kernel-archive 
.buildserver.net, but that machine bit the dust with no known ETA for 
restoring it to life.  I have since moved on to keeping my own upstream 
git repository and building test kernels from there.



Dave W.


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