Re: 2.6.31 kernels
Colin wrote: Cassiano Leal wrote: I have a 4312 myself. Only way I can use the card is via the hybrid wl driver found here: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php Unfortunately, it's not free. It works, though... That's what the broadcom-sta package worked with and it worked fine for me too. Unfortunately, that package is no longer available in the distribution. Exactly the same problem wit ha friend of mine who has a acer aspire eeepc or however it's called. he installed ubuntu but couldn't use the network card becausee of a bug with the card ids. I helped him install latest kernel 2.6.31.5 but then wireless was not working. I think his id was 4315. Reading about the issue I downloaded the wl driver from the broadcom webpage compiled/installed and it worked. So currently this should be the solution regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 11:21:39PM -0200, Cassiano Leal wrote: 2009/11/9 Colin cwvca_spam...@hotmail.com: Alex Samad wrote: On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 10:27:22AM -0200, Cassiano Leal wrote: 2009/11/7 Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au: And here's the wiki page explaining the whole process. It's quite simple and quick to follow through. http://wiki.debian.org/wl yeah and that great, but my whinge was that it was orphaned really fast because it did not compile against the 2.6.31 kernel and that the It does. I have compiled and am using it against a 2.6.31 kernel. inline b43 will handle the cards - well there is a new upstream and the b43 doesn't handle all the cards. My case. b43 does not support my card... does any one still have the src package from broadcom-sta or know where I can get the last good copy. I want to update the package with the new broadcom version, because i like using packages to install extra modules - much better than the suggested mkdir cp method on the wiki -- By the time they had diminished from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began to suspect Hungry. -- a Larson cartoon signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
Alex Samad wrote: On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 10:27:22AM -0200, Cassiano Leal wrote: 2009/11/7 Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au: And here's the wiki page explaining the whole process. It's quite simple and quick to follow through. http://wiki.debian.org/wl yeah and that great, but my whinge was that it was orphaned really fast because it did not compile against the 2.6.31 kernel and that the inline b43 will handle the cards - well there is a new upstream and the b43 doesn't handle all the cards. I am just wondering why we were so quick to jump. Yeah, I agree with that especially when there is no 2.6.31 kernel in squeeze. I tried the instructions from the web page above and it worked like a charm. I think I'll let someone else be the guinea pig for the b43 driver. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
2009/11/9 Colin cwvca_spam...@hotmail.com: Alex Samad wrote: On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 10:27:22AM -0200, Cassiano Leal wrote: 2009/11/7 Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au: And here's the wiki page explaining the whole process. It's quite simple and quick to follow through. http://wiki.debian.org/wl yeah and that great, but my whinge was that it was orphaned really fast because it did not compile against the 2.6.31 kernel and that the It does. I have compiled and am using it against a 2.6.31 kernel. inline b43 will handle the cards - well there is a new upstream and the b43 doesn't handle all the cards. My case. b43 does not support my card... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
2009/11/7 Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au: On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 04:46:52PM -0500, Colin wrote: Cassiano Leal wrote: I have a 4312 myself. Only way I can use the card is via the hybrid wl driver found here: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php Unfortunately, it's not free. It works, though... That's what the broadcom-sta package worked with and it worked fine for me too. Unfortunately, that package is no longer available in the distribution. why are the maintaners so fast in dropping things like this, I rely upon this, and b43 is supporting my wifi card yet And here's the wiki page explaining the whole process. It's quite simple and quick to follow through. http://wiki.debian.org/wl Hope that helps. Cassiano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 10:27:22AM -0200, Cassiano Leal wrote: 2009/11/7 Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au: On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 04:46:52PM -0500, Colin wrote: Cassiano Leal wrote: I have a 4312 myself. Only way I can use the card is via the hybrid wl driver found here: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php Unfortunately, it's not free. It works, though... That's what the broadcom-sta package worked with and it worked fine for me too. Unfortunately, that package is no longer available in the distribution. why are the maintaners so fast in dropping things like this, I rely upon this, and b43 is supporting my wifi card yet And here's the wiki page explaining the whole process. It's quite simple and quick to follow through. http://wiki.debian.org/wl yeah and that great, but my whinge was that it was orphaned really fast because it did not compile against the 2.6.31 kernel and that the inline b43 will handle the cards - well there is a new upstream and the b43 doesn't handle all the cards. I am just wondering why we were so quick to jump. and it great that somebody created a wiki page with instructions on who to build the broadcom source Hope that helps. Cassiano -- I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority. - George W. Bush 03/13/2002 Washington, DC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
Cassiano Leal wrote: I have a 4312 myself. Only way I can use the card is via the hybrid wl driver found here: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php Unfortunately, it's not free. It works, though... That's what the broadcom-sta package worked with and it worked fine for me too. Unfortunately, that package is no longer available in the distribution. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 04:46:52PM -0500, Colin wrote: Cassiano Leal wrote: I have a 4312 myself. Only way I can use the card is via the hybrid wl driver found here: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php Unfortunately, it's not free. It works, though... That's what the broadcom-sta package worked with and it worked fine for me too. Unfortunately, that package is no longer available in the distribution. why are the maintaners so fast in dropping things like this, I rely upon this, and b43 is supporting my wifi card yet -- I refuse to be sucked into your hypnotheoretical arguments. - George W. Bush 10/15/2004 Indianapolis, IN signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
Colin wrote: Alex Samad wrote: isn't there some issue with the broadcom-sta drivers and .31 ? The broadcom-sta source code that was included in non-free Debian would no longer compile with kernel 2.6.31. That's why they've been working on the b43 driver extensively in the 2.6.32 kernel so the broadcom-sta driver will no longer be necessary. So, if I understand correctly, I should not upgrade to 2.6.31 stock kernel, when that is released for testing, right? Giorgos smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 07:53:15PM -0500, Colin wrote: Alex Samad wrote: isn't there some issue with the broadcom-sta drivers and .31 ? The broadcom-sta source code that was included in non-free Debian would no longer compile with kernel 2.6.31. That's why they've been working on the b43 driver extensively in the 2.6.32 kernel so the broadcom-sta driver will no longer be necessary. any idea what the status is -- Yes, I am mindful that we're all sinners, and I caution those who may try to take the speck out of their neighbor's eye when they got a log in their own. - George W. Bush 07/30/2003 Washington, DC at a Press conference, in response to the question what's your view on homosexuality? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote: So, if I understand correctly, I should not upgrade to 2.6.31 stock kernel, when that is released for testing, right? From what I heard, there won't be a 2.6.31 for testing, only a 2.6.32 when it's ready. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
Alex Samad wrote: On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 07:53:15PM -0500, Colin wrote: The broadcom-sta source code that was included in non-free Debian would no longer compile with kernel 2.6.31. That's why they've been working on the b43 driver extensively in the 2.6.32 kernel so the broadcom-sta driver will no longer be necessary. any idea what the status is I've tried 2.6.32-rc5 on my HP Mini 1033cl and it's not working reliably yet. I get a bunch of DMA errors in the system log whenever I try and use it. I've just downloaded 2.6.32-rc6 and going to give that a whirl. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
Alex Samad wrote: isn't there some issue with the broadcom-sta drivers and .31 ? The broadcom-sta source code that was included in non-free Debian would no longer compile with kernel 2.6.31. That's why they've been working on the b43 driver extensively in the 2.6.32 kernel so the broadcom-sta driver will no longer be necessary. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
Dave Witbrodt wrote: My impression is that the kernel team considers 2.6.31 to have been a bit buggier than usual, but they are feeling better about 2.6.32 and plan to use it for Squeeze (when released). I've just compiled and installed .31.5 (from kernel.org) and it seems my notebook likes it. regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
2.6.31 kernels
Emanoil Kotsev put forth on 11/2/2009 3:48 PM: Dave Witbrodt wrote: My impression is that the kernel team considers 2.6.31 to have been a bit buggier than usual, but they are feeling better about 2.6.32 and plan to use it for Squeeze (when released). I've just compiled and installed .31.5 (from kernel.org) and it seems my notebook likes it. Running a customized (stripped) little 2.6.31.1 from kernel.org under Lenny since Oct 3, on an old dual 550MHz i440BX board. Fairly stripped down install running a Postfix mail firewall and Lighty. Been running great, no issues. I've probably got everything stripped out that was on the kernel team's buggy list. ;) My vmlinuz is only 1.1MB and all my drivers (two--disk and NIC) are compiled in. I actually went so far as to strip module support completely out of the kernel. No initramfs, no this, no that. Pretty lean and mean kernel. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
Stan Hoeppner wrote: Running a customized (stripped) little 2.6.31.1 from kernel.org under Lenny since Oct 3, on an old dual 550MHz i440BX board. Fairly stripped down install running a Postfix mail firewall and Lighty. Been running great, no issues. I've probably got everything stripped out that was on the kernel team's buggy list. ;) My vmlinuz is only 1.1MB and all my drivers (two--disk and NIC) are compiled in. I actually went so far as to strip module support completely out of the kernel. No initramfs, no this, no that. Pretty lean and mean kernel. -- Stan sounds cute. In fact I'm using the code from kernel org most of the time, because of the exact same reason. Except stripping off a lot of code you don't need you can optimize (fine tune) specifically for the machine you are using. But back to the topic. The 2.6.30 line was really buggy :-) at least for me. But this (2.6.31.5) seems to be useful. I'm using it on a notebook Dell D520 (lenny). regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:29:54PM +0100, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: Running a customized (stripped) little 2.6.31.1 from kernel.org under Lenny since Oct 3, on an old dual 550MHz i440BX board. Fairly stripped down install running a Postfix mail firewall and Lighty. Been running great, no issues. I've probably got everything stripped out that was on the kernel team's buggy list. ;) My vmlinuz is only 1.1MB and all my drivers (two--disk and NIC) are compiled in. I actually went so far as to strip module support completely out of the kernel. No initramfs, no this, no that. Pretty lean and mean kernel. -- Stan sounds cute. In fact I'm using the code from kernel org most of the time, because of the exact same reason. Except stripping off a lot of code you don't need you can optimize (fine tune) specifically for the machine you are using. But back to the topic. The 2.6.30 line was really buggy :-) at least for me. But this (2.6.31.5) seems to be useful. isn't there some issue with the broadcom-sta drivers and .31 ? I'm using it on a notebook Dell D520 (lenny). regards -- I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go to war. - George W. Bush 01/27/2002 Charleston, WV signature.asc Description: Digital signature
2.6.31 kernels
Are these going to be released to SId? Repos still list rc6-experimental. I have seen references to 2.6.31.4 ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
David Baron wrote: Are these going to be released to SId? Repos still list rc6-experimental. I have seen references to 2.6.31.4 ! I don't pay close attention to what is in the repos, but I don't recall seeing an odd numbered packaged by the Debian kernel team. I could be wrong though. The references to 2.6.31.4 are referring to the current stable linux kernel available at http://www.kernel.org/ . The latest message I read from the Kernel Team indicated 2.6.32 would be included in Squeeze.¹ So obviously Sid will see that before it enters Squeeze. Compiling your own is not very difficult.² Have a look at the package 'kernel-package' and read over it's documentation. Of course google seems to know everything. ¹ http://lwn.net/Articles/357623/ ² http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
2.6.29 was in Sid for a while earlier this year. Obviously the kernel team has their reasons why the 2.6.31 kernel isn't in Sid ATM, but I doubt the 31 of the current stable version is the reason. Under the old kernel development method prior to the 2.6 series the so-called odd kernels (1.1, 1.3, 2.1, 2.3, and 2.5) were not routinely included in Debian as a stable candidate. The third set of digits (0-xx) don't have a bearing on Debian inclusion beyond simple suitability for use/bugs, etc. At least that's how I understand it. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
On Thursday 22 October 2009 19:23:39 debian-user-digest- requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: Are these going to be released to SId? Repos still list rc6-experimental. I have seen references to 2.6.31.4 ! I don't pay close attention to what is in the repos, but I don't recall seeing an odd numbered packaged by the Debian kernel team. I could be wrong though. The references to 2.6.31.4 are referring to the current stable linux kernel available at http://www.kernel.org/ . The latest message I read from the Kernel Team indicated 2.6.32 would be included in Squeeze.¹ So obviously Sid will see that before it enters Squeeze. Compiling your own is not very difficult.² Have a look at the package 'kernel-package' and read over it's documentation. Of course google seems to know everything. There are 2.6.32-rc's around as well, but not on Debian. Why should there not be current stable kernel version on Debian? I always compile my own. Question is that if Debian is keeping it back, is it safe. Another question--what do you do with kbuild packages? I have those for the 2.6.31.4 with rt patch 14 as well which I do want. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 2.6.31 kernels
David Baron wrote: There are 2.6.32-rc's around as well, but not on Debian. Why should there not be current stable kernel version on Debian? I always compile my own. Question is that if Debian is keeping it back, is it safe. Version 2.6.31 is available in experimental. You can use 'kernel-package' with Debian kernel sources from unstable or experimental, or even with upstream source from tarballs or git. My impression is that the kernel team considers 2.6.31 to have been a bit buggier than usual, but they are feeling better about 2.6.32 and plan to use it for Squeeze (when released). I was using the kernel team's test-package server, kernel-archive .buildserver.net, but that machine bit the dust with no known ETA for restoring it to life. I have since moved on to keeping my own upstream git repository and building test kernels from there. Dave W. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org