Re: 3FA: ???

1997-12-23 Thread Michael Beattie
At 14:49 6/12/97 -0500, Carl Mummert wrote:
I always get 4FA:, but only if I hit Left Shift BEFORE the lilo
prompt appears.  But if I hit enter at the 4FA: prompt, the lilo
prompt appears.  If I hit shift after LILO: appears, everythings is
normal.

I always assumed this was a bios thing, but I have absolutely no idea
of the real cause.



The Way I worked it out:

I used to get 1FA: If i hit Shift before my default OS booted (MS-DOG).
After hitting 1, DOS would boot - On My 1st (1) partition. Hitting F would
cause the machine to attempt to boot off of a (F)loppy. Hitting A would
bring up a new prompt: 1234F: (I think) 1 would boot DOS 2 Would boot Linux.
but linux was on /dev/hda7  (/dev/hda5-8 are extended Partitions, hda1 is
my only primary) so my next assumption was each number represented the next
available bootable partition. (my /dev/hda7 had the bootable flag toggled).
As for 3 and 4.. Nothing happened ?? F would try the floppy again.

Thats my deciphering, I felt like sharing it :)

Mike.

Im currently not on the list, as I am away from home for the holidays :)


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: 3FA ???

1997-12-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
Eloy A. Paris wrote:
  Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  : I just installed Debian 1.3.1 on my 486 w/4MB RAM.  I made Debian hard
  : drive bootable because it's the only drive in the system.  When I
  : rebooted, I got this message:
  :
  : 3FA:
  :
  : This is all it says.  Even when I try to boot off my boot disk, it says
  : the same message.  Please help.  Thanks.
  
  /usr/doc/mbr/README explains it all. The documentation in
  /usr/doc/lilo can also help.

Since the user says he can't boot even from floppy, he may need the text here.
This extract is from /usr/doc/mbr/README:
==
4. The boot process
~~~

When the MBR is first loaded it waits for a configurable length of
time, monitoring the keyboard, for key presses. If the MBR detects a
key press, it will interrupt the boot process, and display its
prompt. Otherwise, it will load the first sector of the default
partition, and execute it. If a disk error occours, the MBR will
display its prompt.

4.1 The boot prompt
~~~

The boot prompt looks something like this:

14FA:

This is the list of valid keys which may be pressed. This means that
partitions 1, and 4 can be booted, also the first floppy drive
(F). The A means that 'advanced' mode may be entered, in which any
partition may be booted. The prompt for this mode looks like this:

1234F:

The only other valid key which may be pressed is RETURN, which
continues booting with the default partition.
==

-- 
Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Isle of Wight  http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver

PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1

Unsolicited email advertisements are not welcome; any person sending
such will be invoiced for telephone time used in downloading together
with a £25 administration charge.



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: 3FA ???

1997-12-18 Thread Aaron Walker
What I realized after I wrote this was that he was trying to boot with the root
disk.

Oliver Elphick wrote:

 Eloy A. Paris wrote:
   Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   : I just installed Debian 1.3.1 on my 486 w/4MB RAM.  I made Debian hard
   : drive bootable because it's the only drive in the system.  When I
   : rebooted, I got this message:
   :
   : 3FA:
   :
   : This is all it says.  Even when I try to boot off my boot disk, it says
   : the same message.  Please help.  Thanks.
   
   /usr/doc/mbr/README explains it all. The documentation in
   /usr/doc/lilo can also help.

 Since the user says he can't boot even from floppy, he may need the text here.
 This extract is from /usr/doc/mbr/README:
 ==
 4. The boot process
 ~~~

 When the MBR is first loaded it waits for a configurable length of
 time, monitoring the keyboard, for key presses. If the MBR detects a
 key press, it will interrupt the boot process, and display its
 prompt. Otherwise, it will load the first sector of the default
 partition, and execute it. If a disk error occours, the MBR will
 display its prompt.

 4.1 The boot prompt
 ~~~

 The boot prompt looks something like this:

 14FA:

 This is the list of valid keys which may be pressed. This means that
 partitions 1, and 4 can be booted, also the first floppy drive
 (F). The A means that 'advanced' mode may be entered, in which any
 partition may be booted. The prompt for this mode looks like this:

 1234F:

 The only other valid key which may be pressed is RETURN, which
 continues booting with the default partition.
 ==

 --
 Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Isle of Wight  http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver

 PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1

 Unsolicited email advertisements are not welcome; any person sending
 such will be invoiced for telephone time used in downloading together
 with a £25 administration charge.

 --
 TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .



--
`
Aaron Walker

Work:
  Site: http://www.iconmedia.com
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Personal:
  Site: http://www.iconmedia.com/aaron
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
``



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: 3FA ???

1997-12-17 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: I just installed Debian 1.3.1 on my 486 w/4MB RAM.  I made Debian hard
: drive bootable because it's the only drive in the system.  When I
: rebooted, I got this message:
:
: 3FA:
:
: This is all it says.  Even when I try to boot off my boot disk, it says
: the same message.  Please help.  Thanks.

/usr/doc/mbr/README explains it all. The documentation in
/usr/doc/lilo can also help.

E.-


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


3FA ???

1997-12-16 Thread Aaron Walker
I just installed Debian 1.3.1 on my 486 w/4MB RAM.  I made Debian hard
drive bootable because it's the only drive in the system.  When I
rebooted, I got this message:

3FA:

This is all it says.  Even when I try to boot off my boot disk, it says
the same message.  Please help.  Thanks.
--
`

Aaron Walker

Work:
  Site: http://www.iconmedia.com
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Personal:
  Site: http://www.iconmedia.com/aaron
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
``




--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: 3FA: ???

1997-12-06 Thread Rick Hawkins


 Run liloconfig, and answer the questions it asks you appropriately.

Is this the right program?  all three questions are yes/no types, rather than 
allowing me to change them.  It wants to use /dev/hda3, /, for boot, and has no 
option to change to /dev/hda1.

rick





--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: 3FA: ???

1997-12-06 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 
  Run liloconfig, and answer the questions it asks you appropriately.
 
 Is this the right program?  all three questions are yes/no types, rather than 
 allowing me to change them.  It wants to use /dev/hda3, /, for boot, and has 
 no option to change to /dev/hda1.


I took a look at it, and it indeed assumes that if you want to boot off linux 
partition, then you want it to be /.  You may want to submit a bug against 
lilo.  Your only option is to edit /etc/lilo.conf and make it something like 
this:

boot=/dev/hda
root=/dev/hda3
install=/boot/boot.b
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux

Then you should run lilo and reboot

Note that this will install lilo into MBR.  If you don't want to do that, and 
want to leave the debian mbr block in there (the thing that produces 123FA at 
times), you can take a look at /usr/sbin/liloconfig (perl script) and see the 
weird ways it handles it :-).  Also, see /usr/doc/mbr.  However, I don't see a 
reason debian does this anyway, I was once told that the reason is because mbr 
is safer than lilo. 

-- 
Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation
Igor Grobman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: 3FA: ???

1997-12-06 Thread Faiz ul Haque Zeya
Hello ,
   While installing Debian , I  come across the same situation.
But I get :4Fa  .I guess it is due to the installation script when it
tries to make Linux bootable from harddisk . I corrected it
through lilo.conf and then I run lilo  .
   By doing so I get what I  want . I set the delay to 200 .so boot map(?)
will look for left space . but if i press left space during the booting
(continuously) , I get the 4FA: and then by pressing Enter I get LILO
waiting as it should do . I do not get the same problem when  I do not ask
for linux to be made bootable from the harddisk
during installation and then do it manually later . So i guess it is due
to installation script . However I have not checked the source code
and hence I am not  sure  about it .

Regards
Faiz ul Haque Zeya
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Saturday, December 06, 1997 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: 3FA: ???




 Run liloconfig, and answer the questions it asks you appropriately.

Is this the right program?  all three questions are yes/no types, rather
than allowing me to change them.  It wants to use /dev/hda3, /, for boot,
and has no option to change to /dev/hda1.

rick



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: 3FA: ???

1997-12-06 Thread Carl Mummert
I always get 4FA:, but only if I hit Left Shift BEFORE the lilo
prompt appears.  But if I hit enter at the 4FA: prompt, the lilo
prompt appears.  If I hit shift after LILO: appears, everythings is
normal.

I always assumed this was a bios thing, but I have absolutely no idea
of the real cause.


Carl

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
One must imagine Sysiphus happy


--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: 3FA: ???

1997-12-06 Thread M. W. Blunier
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Carl Mummert wrote:

 I always get 4FA:, but only if I hit Left Shift BEFORE the lilo
 prompt appears.  But if I hit enter at the 4FA: prompt, the lilo
 prompt appears.  If I hit shift after LILO: appears, everythings is
 normal.
 
 I always assumed this was a bios thing, but I have absolutely no idea
 of the real cause.

I think is because lilo.conf has been misconfigured.  Mine was set up
boot=/dev/hda1
When I changed it to the correct
boot=/dev/hda
The weird stuff quit.

Mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


3FA: ???

1997-12-05 Thread Rick Hawkins

I've seen the 1FA business before, but now that I've managed to move my file 
system over to my new drive, and lilo'd it, I get a 3FA: after the hardware 
check.  The key sequence A1 (i think) will get me to LILO, which will boot if 
left alone.  I checked and I'm not touching the keys as it boots.

/hda1 is /boot, which contains the kernel, and /hda3 is /, which is well past 
1024 sectors.

How do I get rid of this?  It would be nice to go back to being able to boot 
without intervention :)

rick



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


Re: 3FA: ???

1997-12-05 Thread Igor Grobman
 
 I've seen the 1FA business before, but now that I've managed to move my file 
 system over to my new drive, and lilo'd it, I get a 3FA: after the hardware 
 check.  The key sequence A1 (i think) will get me to LILO, which will boot if 
 left alone.  I checked and I'm not touching the keys as it boots.
 
 /hda1 is /boot, which contains the kernel, and /hda3 is /, which is well past 
 1024 sectors.
 
 How do I get rid of this?  It would be nice to go back to being able to boot 
 without intervention :)


Run liloconfig, and answer the questions it asks you appropriately.


-- 
Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation
Igor Grobman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



--
TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
Trouble?  e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .