Re: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid (solved)
Hello, I found that by recompiling the kernel with the 3c509 as a module and loading the 3c509.o, all networking is back up. Thanks everyone for the ideas. -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel Quoting Bill Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Sebastiaan, I have the 3c509 driver compiled into the kernel. One of the early problems I had with this system is that if I tried to use a loadable module for these cards, I could not get them both to be reconized. I seem to remember that a 2.2.x kernel read-me (or even 2.0.x) told me to fix this by loading the driver from the kernel and using lilo.conf to pass in the correct parameters. It is very possible that by moving to the 2.4.0 kernel, my original problem has gone away without my trying to find out. I will reconfigure my system tonight and try loading them as modules. Thanks for the ideas, -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel Quoting Sebastiaan Hi, is it vital that both cards are loaded at boottime? What happens when you insmod the second card? How does the kernel behave when compiling the cards in? Perhaps you can try to leave the ',eth0' and ',eth1' at the bootline and let the kernel figure it out itself? Greetz, Sebastiaan On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bill Bell wrote: Hello all, I have a dual NIC system using two 3c509 cards. This configuration has been working well under sid with a 2.2.18 kernel (my current system). I have been trying to move up to a 2.4.0 kernel and I am having problems. My problem is when booting with the 2.4.0 kernel, both NIC cards have the wrong media port enabled. The boot message is saying something like Coax port instead of 10baseT port. This is the lilo.conf append line I use to get both cards working for the 2.2.18 kernel. append=ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x310,eth1 When I remark out this append line, run lilo, and boot the 2.4.0 kernel, eth0 gets configed correctly with the 10baseT port enabled, but eth1 is not found. Some of the things I have tried- RTFM docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking searching the debian user list archives searching www.kernel.org documentation other various FAQs on the web Possible problems as a guess- 1) I am missing a new append ether='parameter' 2) There is a better way to use the ether= line 3) 2.4.0 kernel has a bug in the 3c509 driver (?) More info- I have PnP turned off in both the BIOS and on both NICs. Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel
Re: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 02:17:32PM +0100, Joris Lambrecht wrote: let's have a look ... Did you try ... ? http://www.linux.com/links/Documentation/ Also, if i'm correct you would be able to set this parameter with netconf or would at least find the dox when you use man netconf greets, joris -Original Message- From: Bill Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:13 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid Hello Joris, I am sure all the NIC network config paramerters are good under /etc/network/interfaces. You are correct though, I am trying to find the correct option to send in from the lilo.conf append= line to force the the 10baseT media port on, (if there is one :-). This has been the target of my searchs and RTFMs so far. Joris, I must be missing a package, man netconf says 'no manpage for netconf' Could you tell which package to get ? I'm curious now! Thanks -- russ
3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid
Hello all, I have a dual NIC system using two 3c509 cards. This configuration has been working well under sid with a 2.2.18 kernel (my current system). I have been trying to move up to a 2.4.0 kernel and I am having problems. My problem is when booting with the 2.4.0 kernel, both NIC cards have the wrong media port enabled. The boot message is saying something like Coax port instead of 10baseT port. This is the lilo.conf append line I use to get both cards working for the 2.2.18 kernel. append=ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x310,eth1 When I remark out this append line, run lilo, and boot the 2.4.0 kernel, eth0 gets configed correctly with the 10baseT port enabled, but eth1 is not found. Some of the things I have tried- RTFM docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking searching the debian user list archives searching www.kernel.org documentation other various FAQs on the web Possible problems as a guess- 1) I am missing a new append ether='parameter' 2) There is a better way to use the ether= line 3) 2.4.0 kernel has a bug in the 3c509 driver (?) More info- I have PnP turned off in both the BIOS and on both NICs. Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel
RE: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid
Hi, Isn't this just a netconfiguration issue ? At install of a debian system you can pass parameters to the module such as the media port (bnc,utp) i think you should read something on that instead. Don't really know where you should configure that. Dive into those How-To's :) Greets, Joris -Original Message- From: Bill Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 7:28 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid Hello all, I have a dual NIC system using two 3c509 cards. This configuration has been working well under sid with a 2.2.18 kernel (my current system). I have been trying to move up to a 2.4.0 kernel and I am having problems. My problem is when booting with the 2.4.0 kernel, both NIC cards have the wrong media port enabled. The boot message is saying something like Coax port instead of 10baseT port. This is the lilo.conf append line I use to get both cards working for the 2.2.18 kernel. append=ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x310,eth1 When I remark out this append line, run lilo, and boot the 2.4.0 kernel, eth0 gets configed correctly with the 10baseT port enabled, but eth1 is not found. Some of the things I have tried- RTFM docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking searching the debian user list archives searching www.kernel.org documentation other various FAQs on the web Possible problems as a guess- 1) I am missing a new append ether='parameter' 2) There is a better way to use the ether= line 3) 2.4.0 kernel has a bug in the 3c509 driver (?) More info- I have PnP turned off in both the BIOS and on both NICs. Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid
Hi, is it vital that both cards are loaded at boottime? What happens when you insmod the second card? How does the kernel behave when compiling the cards in? Perhaps you can try to leave the ',eth0' and ',eth1' at the bootline and let the kernel figure it out itself? Greetz, Sebastiaan On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bill Bell wrote: Hello all, I have a dual NIC system using two 3c509 cards. This configuration has been working well under sid with a 2.2.18 kernel (my current system). I have been trying to move up to a 2.4.0 kernel and I am having problems. My problem is when booting with the 2.4.0 kernel, both NIC cards have the wrong media port enabled. The boot message is saying something like Coax port instead of 10baseT port. This is the lilo.conf append line I use to get both cards working for the 2.2.18 kernel. append=ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x310,eth1 When I remark out this append line, run lilo, and boot the 2.4.0 kernel, eth0 gets configed correctly with the 10baseT port enabled, but eth1 is not found. Some of the things I have tried- RTFM docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking searching the debian user list archives searching www.kernel.org documentation other various FAQs on the web Possible problems as a guess- 1) I am missing a new append ether='parameter' 2) There is a better way to use the ether= line 3) 2.4.0 kernel has a bug in the 3c509 driver (?) More info- I have PnP turned off in both the BIOS and on both NICs. Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid
Hello Sebastiaan, I have the 3c509 driver compiled into the kernel. One of the early problems I had with this system is that if I tried to use a loadable module for these cards, I could not get them both to be reconized. I seem to remember that a 2.2.x kernel read-me (or even 2.0.x) told me to fix this by loading the driver from the kernel and using lilo.conf to pass in the correct parameters. It is very possible that by moving to the 2.4.0 kernel, my original problem has gone away without my trying to find out. I will reconfigure my system tonight and try loading them as modules. Thanks for the ideas, -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel Quoting Sebastiaan Hi, is it vital that both cards are loaded at boottime? What happens when you insmod the second card? How does the kernel behave when compiling the cards in? Perhaps you can try to leave the ',eth0' and ',eth1' at the bootline and let the kernel figure it out itself? Greetz, Sebastiaan On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bill Bell wrote: Hello all, I have a dual NIC system using two 3c509 cards. This configuration has been working well under sid with a 2.2.18 kernel (my current system). I have been trying to move up to a 2.4.0 kernel and I am having problems. My problem is when booting with the 2.4.0 kernel, both NIC cards have the wrong media port enabled. The boot message is saying something like Coax port instead of 10baseT port. This is the lilo.conf append line I use to get both cards working for the 2.2.18 kernel. append=ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x310,eth1 When I remark out this append line, run lilo, and boot the 2.4.0 kernel, eth0 gets configed correctly with the 10baseT port enabled, but eth1 is not found. Some of the things I have tried- RTFM docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking searching the debian user list archives searching www.kernel.org documentation other various FAQs on the web Possible problems as a guess- 1) I am missing a new append ether='parameter' 2) There is a better way to use the ether= line 3) 2.4.0 kernel has a bug in the 3c509 driver (?) More info- I have PnP turned off in both the BIOS and on both NICs. Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel
RE: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid
Hello Joris, I am sure all the NIC network config paramerters are good under /etc/network/interfaces. You are correct though, I am trying to find the correct option to send in from the lilo.conf append= line to force the the 10baseT media port on, (if there is one :-). This has been the target of my searchs and RTFMs so far. Thanks, -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel Quoting Joris: Hi, Isn't this just a netconfiguration issue ? At install of a debian system you can pass parameters to the module such as the media port (bnc,utp) i think you should read something on that instead. Don't really know where you should configure that. Dive into those How-To's :) Greets, Joris -Original Message- From: Bill Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 7:28 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid Hello all, I have a dual NIC system using two 3c509 cards. This configuration has been working well under sid with a 2.2.18 kernel (my current system). I have been trying to move up to a 2.4.0 kernel and I am having problems. My problem is when booting with the 2.4.0 kernel, both NIC cards have the wrong media port enabled. The boot message is saying something like Coax port instead of 10baseT port. This is the lilo.conf append line I use to get both cards working for the 2.2.18 kernel. append=ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x310,eth1 When I remark out this append line, run lilo, and boot the 2.4.0 kernel, eth0 gets configed correctly with the 10baseT port enabled, but eth1 is not found. Some of the things I have tried- RTFM docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking searching the debian user list archives searching www.kernel.org documentation other various FAQs on the web Possible problems as a guess- 1) I am missing a new append ether='parameter' 2) There is a better way to use the ether= line 3) 2.4.0 kernel has a bug in the 3c509 driver (?) More info- I have PnP turned off in both the BIOS and on both NICs. Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel
RE: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid
let's have a look ... Did you try ... ? http://www.linux.com/links/Documentation/ Also, if i'm correct you would be able to set this parameter with netconf or would at least find the dox when you use man netconf greets, joris -Original Message- From: Bill Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:13 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid Hello Joris, I am sure all the NIC network config paramerters are good under /etc/network/interfaces. You are correct though, I am trying to find the correct option to send in from the lilo.conf append= line to force the the 10baseT media port on, (if there is one :-). This has been the target of my searchs and RTFMs so far. Thanks, -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel Quoting Joris: Hi, Isn't this just a netconfiguration issue ? At install of a debian system you can pass parameters to the module such as the media port (bnc,utp) i think you should read something on that instead. Don't really know where you should configure that. Dive into those How-To's :) Greets, Joris -Original Message- From: Bill Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 7:28 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid Hello all, I have a dual NIC system using two 3c509 cards. This configuration has been working well under sid with a 2.2.18 kernel (my current system). I have been trying to move up to a 2.4.0 kernel and I am having problems. My problem is when booting with the 2.4.0 kernel, both NIC cards have the wrong media port enabled. The boot message is saying something like Coax port instead of 10baseT port. This is the lilo.conf append line I use to get both cards working for the 2.2.18 kernel. append=ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x310,eth1 When I remark out this append line, run lilo, and boot the 2.4.0 kernel, eth0 gets configed correctly with the 10baseT port enabled, but eth1 is not found. Some of the things I have tried- RTFM docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking searching the debian user list archives searching www.kernel.org documentation other various FAQs on the web Possible problems as a guess- 1) I am missing a new append ether='parameter' 2) There is a better way to use the ether= line 3) 2.4.0 kernel has a bug in the 3c509 driver (?) More info- I have PnP turned off in both the BIOS and on both NICs. Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid
I guess this is the one you really need http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.1 -Original Message- From: Bill Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:13 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid Hello Joris, I am sure all the NIC network config paramerters are good under /etc/network/interfaces. You are correct though, I am trying to find the correct option to send in from the lilo.conf append= line to force the the 10baseT media port on, (if there is one :-). This has been the target of my searchs and RTFMs so far. Thanks, -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel Quoting Joris: Hi, Isn't this just a netconfiguration issue ? At install of a debian system you can pass parameters to the module such as the media port (bnc,utp) i think you should read something on that instead. Don't really know where you should configure that. Dive into those How-To's :) Greets, Joris -Original Message- From: Bill Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 7:28 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid Hello all, I have a dual NIC system using two 3c509 cards. This configuration has been working well under sid with a 2.2.18 kernel (my current system). I have been trying to move up to a 2.4.0 kernel and I am having problems. My problem is when booting with the 2.4.0 kernel, both NIC cards have the wrong media port enabled. The boot message is saying something like Coax port instead of 10baseT port. This is the lilo.conf append line I use to get both cards working for the 2.2.18 kernel. append=ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x310,eth1 When I remark out this append line, run lilo, and boot the 2.4.0 kernel, eth0 gets configed correctly with the 10baseT port enabled, but eth1 is not found. Some of the things I have tried- RTFM docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking searching the debian user list archives searching www.kernel.org documentation other various FAQs on the web Possible problems as a guess- 1) I am missing a new append ether='parameter' 2) There is a better way to use the ether= line 3) 2.4.0 kernel has a bug in the 3c509 driver (?) More info- I have PnP turned off in both the BIOS and on both NICs. Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- Bill C.R.E.A.M. Dark Angel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3c509 with 2.4.0 kernel and sid
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 12:27:41AM -0600, Bill Bell wrote: Hello all, I have a dual NIC system using two 3c509 cards. This configuration has been working well under sid with a 2.2.18 kernel (my current system). I have been trying to move up to a 2.4.0 kernel and I am having problems. My problem is when booting with the 2.4.0 kernel, both NIC cards have the wrong media port enabled. The boot message is saying something like Coax port instead of 10baseT port. The Ethernet HOWTO says: 3c509B users should use either the supplied DOS utility to disable the plug and play support, and to set the output media to what they require. The linux driver currently does not support the Autodetect media setting, so you have to select 10Base-T or 10Base-2 or AUI. Note that to turn off PnP entirely, you should do a 3C5X9CFG /PNP:DISABLE and then follow that with a hard reset to ensure that it takes effect. Have you set the port to 10Base-T? This is the lilo.conf append line I use to get both cards working for the 2.2.18 kernel. append=ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x310,eth1 I don't think you need this. The kernel detects the cards in MAC address order (it has done this for me, at least since about 2.2.13 or so). I'm getting a bad vibe from 0x310 for eth1; try configuring it for another IO. I have a firewall with two 3c509Bs, eth0 at 10,0x300 and eth1 and 11,0x2e0. kernel 2.2.17 and no append line (to be fair, i've got the 10Base-T only versions here) Read the Ethernet HOWTO, it has other things which may or may not affect your situation that I don't quote here. -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Inc. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgp6Zcsh4bVjW.pgp Description: PGP signature
