Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-05 Thread jean Monnat


Le Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:30:02 +0100,

AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com a écrit :



 Two questions, then:

 

 (1) how do I capture all of the debugging output from amarok --debug?

 

 (2) any initial thoughts on why Amarok might start to crash today?  I 

 updated today and rebooted yesterday, and Amarok was working fine for

 me yesterday after I booted up.  So, it may have been something in

 today's updates (I only had 7 packages updated, but cannot remember

 which).

 

 TIA

 

 AG

 

 

Hi 

Same problem for me.

I suppress the 3 amarok files in my /home/user/.kde/config and the file cur
rent.xspf in /home/user/.kde/share/apps/amarok

Amarok restart nicely

Jean Monnat


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Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-05 Thread AG

On 05/03/11 14:57, jean Monnat wrote:


Le Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:30:02 +0100,

AGcomputing.acco...@googlemail.com  a écrit :



   

Two questions, then:
 
   
 
   

(1) how do I capture all of the debugging output from amarok --debug?
 
   
 
   

(2) any initial thoughts on why Amarok might start to crash today?  I
 
   

updated today and rebooted yesterday, and Amarok was working fine for
 
   

me yesterday after I booted up.  So, it may have been something in
 
   

today's updates (I only had 7 packages updated, but cannot remember
 
   

which).
 
   
 
   

TIA
 
   
 
   

AG
 
   
 
   
 

Hi

Same problem for me.

I suppress the 3 amarok files in my /home/user/.kde/config and the file cur
rent.xspf in /home/user/.kde/share/apps/amarok

Amarok restart nicely

Jean Monnat


   


Hi Jean

Thanks for that.  I also ended up renaming the 
~/.kde/share/config/amarok_homercand relaunched and all worked out very 
well.


Thanks.

AG


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Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-03 Thread AG

On 01/03/11 21:57, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Simon Brandmair wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:30:02 +0100 AG wrote:


 However, attempting to capture this output via amarok --debug 
amarok.txt (or | amarok.txt) doesn't capture anything at all in a text
format that I can copy and paste as part of this request for help.

Two questions, then:

(1) how do I capture all of the debugging output from amarok --debug?


How about `amarok --debug 2 amarok_err.txt` ?


(2) any initial thoughts on why Amarok might start to crash today?  I
updated today and rebooted yesterday, and Amarok was working fine 
for me

yesterday after I booted up.  So, it may have been something in today's
updates (I only had 7 packages updated, but cannot remember which).


If you use aptitude to update your system, it keeps the update 
history in /var/log/aptitude. Maybe you find something there.




If you use apt-get, it's history is in /var/log/apt




Thanks Hugo  Simon.  I've sent a query to the Amarok mailing list and 
filed the KDE bug report as well.


Cheers
AG


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Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-03 Thread AG

On 01/03/11 23:26, Klistvud wrote:

Dne, 01. 03. 2011 19:07:35 je AG napisal(a):

(2) any initial thoughts on why Amarok might start to crash today?  I 
updated today and rebooted yesterday, and Amarok was working fine for 
me yesterday after I booted up.  So, it may have been something in 
today's updates (I only had 7 packages updated, but cannot remember 
which).


The first thing to check is, does it crash in another user account?



I accept that setting up another user account would be a valid test, so 
my question is due to my own lack of understanding: - I would have 
thought that an application/ process would call upon the same libraries 
that are installed at a system-wide level, no matter which user is 
triggering that app/ process.  Can you elaborate a bit more about the 
relevance of the user account and how setting up a different user just 
to test applications helps?  Or is this to eliminate bugginess in the 
user account?  Again, would this not be picked up by the user as a 
general trend in her/ his user experience of the system?


Cheers
AG


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Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-03 Thread AG

On 01/03/11 20:47, Jeffrin Jose wrote:

On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 06:07:35PM +, AG wrote:
   

(1) how do I capture all of the debugging output from amarok --debug?
 

I think You may start gnome terminal and run  amarok --debug 2  debug.txt.


   

(2) any initial thoughts on why Amarok might start to crash today?
I updated today and rebooted yesterday, and Amarok was working fine
for me yesterday after I booted up.  So, it may have been something
in today's updates (I only had 7 packages updated, but cannot
remember which).
 

ldd /usr/bin/amarok will give you library dependencies for amarok.

example output :
linux-vdso.so.1 =   (0x7fff7bd2d000)

install a package called apt-file.
do apt-file update
now you may find which package gives by
apt-file find linux-vdso.so.1

so you can  select a check the packages that amarok is
depended on. :)



/Jeffrin.

   


Thanks Jeffrin

I've double checked removing amarok completely from my system and 
reinstalling it and its associated packages (common, dbg, etc.) and it 
still crashes.  I've submitted the crash handler report and asked for 
assistance on the amarok list.


Thanks for your suggestions.

Cheers
AG


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Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-03 Thread Christopher Judd
On Thursday 03 March 2011 15:08:55 AG wrote:

 ...
 
 I've double checked removing amarok completely from my system and
 reinstalling it and its associated packages (common, dbg, etc.) and it
 still crashes.  I've submitted the crash handler report and asked for
 assistance on the amarok list.
 
 Thanks for your suggestions.
 
 Cheers
 AG

Try moving th ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok directory out of the way, then running 
Amarok.  This helped me a couple of times in the past.

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Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-03 Thread AG

On 03/03/11 21:33, Christopher Judd wrote:

On Thursday 03 March 2011 15:08:55 AG wrote:

   

...

I've double checked removing amarok completely from my system and
reinstalling it and its associated packages (common, dbg, etc.) and it
still crashes.  I've submitted the crash handler report and asked for
assistance on the amarok list.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Cheers
AG
 

Try moving th ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok directory out of the way, then running
Amarok.  This helped me a couple of times in the past.

-Chris
   


Chris

I wish that it was that simple.  I did as you suggested and launched 
amarok, but it still crashed.  Thanks - appreciate your suggestion.  
Just wish it worked.


AG


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Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-03 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 03. 03. 2011 21:06:07 je AG napisal(a):

On 01/03/11 23:26, Klistvud wrote:

The first thing to check is, does it crash in another user account?


I accept that setting up another user account would be a valid test,  
so my question is due to my own lack of understanding: - I would have  
thought that an application/ process would call upon the same  
libraries that are installed at a system-wide level, no matter which  
user is triggering that app/ process.  Can you elaborate a bit more  
about the relevance of the user account and how setting up a  
different user just to test applications helps?  Or is this to  
eliminate bugginess in the user account?  Again, would this not be  
picked up by the user as a general trend in her/ his user experience  
of the system?




Applications usually honor a set of common/default settings (stored in,  
say /etc/default/myapp), and a set of per-user settings (stored in,  
say, ~/.myapp). There are a million ways you can bork an application's  
user settings without necessarily borking the libraries or the  
application as such. For example, you could select the wrong output  
device in your Amarok user settings, causing Amarok to crash on launch.  
Another user, with the right output device configured, may run Amarok  
without a glitch.
To make a long story short: yes, setting up a different user just to  
test applications helps. Of course, it could be argued that deleting or  
renaming ~/.myapp would suffice. However, modern GUI applications tend  
to scatter their config files all over your ~/ haystack, so that  
finding the offending configuration file may take a bit of effort.


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Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-01 Thread AG

Hi

Amarok is crashing almost immediately that I launch it on an up-to-date 
testing/ wheezy machine using Gnome as the DE.  Yesterday, Amarok worked 
fine, today it doesn't.  I've run amarok --debug at the command line and 
get literally streams of output, with multi-colored code tags (I 
think).  However, attempting to capture this output via amarok --debug  
amarok.txt (or | amarok.txt) doesn't capture anything at all in a text 
format that I can copy and paste as part of this request for help.


Two questions, then:

(1) how do I capture all of the debugging output from amarok --debug?

(2) any initial thoughts on why Amarok might start to crash today?  I 
updated today and rebooted yesterday, and Amarok was working fine for me 
yesterday after I booted up.  So, it may have been something in today's 
updates (I only had 7 packages updated, but cannot remember which).


TIA

AG


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Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-01 Thread Simon Brandmair
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:30:02 +0100 AG wrote:

  However, attempting to capture this output via amarok --debug 
 amarok.txt (or | amarok.txt) doesn't capture anything at all in a text
 format that I can copy and paste as part of this request for help.
 
 Two questions, then:
 
 (1) how do I capture all of the debugging output from amarok --debug?

How about `amarok --debug 2 amarok_err.txt` ?

 (2) any initial thoughts on why Amarok might start to crash today?  I
 updated today and rebooted yesterday, and Amarok was working fine for me
 yesterday after I booted up.  So, it may have been something in today's
 updates (I only had 7 packages updated, but cannot remember which).

If you use aptitude to update your system, it keeps the update history 
in /var/log/aptitude. Maybe you find something there.

Cheers,
Simon


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Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-01 Thread Jeffrin Jose
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 06:07:35PM +, AG wrote:
 (1) how do I capture all of the debugging output from amarok --debug?

I think You may start gnome terminal and run  amarok --debug 2 debug.txt.


 (2) any initial thoughts on why Amarok might start to crash today?
 I updated today and rebooted yesterday, and Amarok was working fine
 for me yesterday after I booted up.  So, it may have been something
 in today's updates (I only had 7 packages updated, but cannot
 remember which).

ldd /usr/bin/amarok will give you library dependencies for amarok.

example output :
linux-vdso.so.1 =  (0x7fff7bd2d000)

install a package called apt-file.
do apt-file update
now you may find which package gives by
apt-file find linux-vdso.so.1

so you can  select a check the packages that amarok is 
depended on. :)



/Jeffrin.

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Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-01 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Simon Brandmair wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:30:02 +0100 AG wrote:


 However, attempting to capture this output via amarok --debug 
amarok.txt (or | amarok.txt) doesn't capture anything at all in a text
format that I can copy and paste as part of this request for help.

Two questions, then:

(1) how do I capture all of the debugging output from amarok --debug?


How about `amarok --debug 2 amarok_err.txt` ?


(2) any initial thoughts on why Amarok might start to crash today?  I
updated today and rebooted yesterday, and Amarok was working fine for me
yesterday after I booted up.  So, it may have been something in today's
updates (I only had 7 packages updated, but cannot remember which).


If you use aptitude to update your system, it keeps the update history 
in /var/log/aptitude. Maybe you find something there.




If you use apt-get, it's history is in /var/log/apt


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Re: Amarok crashing on launch

2011-03-01 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 01. 03. 2011 19:07:35 je AG napisal(a):

(2) any initial thoughts on why Amarok might start to crash today?  I  
updated today and rebooted yesterday, and Amarok was working fine for  
me yesterday after I booted up.  So, it may have been something in  
today's updates (I only had 7 packages updated, but cannot remember  
which).


The first thing to check is, does it crash in another user account?

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