Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-07 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:



snip

Just to report back: I resolved this by installing:
ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/96.43.01/

I had to change 1 item to enable running it on 2.6.23-1-686:

line 529 should be:


of usr/src/nv/nv-linux.h




That is not true. You don't have to make *any* changes. This version 
checks whether the call needs 5 or 6 arguments. Thanks Nvidia for being 
fast on the draw.


Hugo


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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 01/04/08 10:12, Damon L. Chesser wrote:

On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 09:59 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Damon L. Chesser wrote:

On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 06:45 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

snip


I conclude that this is perhaps due to the DRI being loaded and/or
running the latest binary from Nvidia.  However I never had an issue
running the latest sid xorg with the latest debian nvidia glx.
Thanks Damon. If you run the latest Sid nvidia driver that would be 
version 100.14.19 which came out 09/18/07


As I told Ron, I have to use the 96xx legacy series because of the 
cards that I have.


nv really does not compare with nvidia.
my multi-seat users need X.
I guess I am looking for new videocards.

Hugo


Hugo,

I think you mis-understand:  I run nvidia as a driver.  I just don't use
the Nvidia installer from Nvidia.  I use modual assistant to make the
drivers as per that link I sent.  Try it.  However, I know from
supporting RHEL that if you use the Nvidia installer, it is well known
to break things as it installs files where ever it wants to.  You will


Really?

I've been using the native ftp.nvidia.com driver with Debian for 3-4 
years, without any breakage.



but I get:
The server at ftp.nvidia.com is taking too long to respond.

repeatedly. Normal?




The only thing I have to remember is to symlink libglx.so.169.04 to 
libglx.so whenever xserver-xorg-core is updated.


$ ls -1l libglx.so*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 31 03:03 libglx.so -
  libglx.so.169.04
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 763496 Dec  3 22:25 libglx.so.169.04
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 429010 Dec 21 18:43 libglx.so.software



have to insure all parts of it are installed.  I once read a posting
from a RH employee/devoloper how it breaks things (and hence will not be
supported by RH if sysreport shows it is installed) but the details are
forgotten.





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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:



snip

Just to report back: I resolved this by installing:
ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/96.43.01/

I had to change 1 item to enable running it on 2.6.23-1-686:

line 529 should be:
kmem_cache = kmem_cache_create(name, sizeof(type),  \
0, 0, NULL);\


That solved the problem of the backleveled ABI *and* the moving cursor 
that I reported in:


http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/12/msg01932.html

Thanks everyone for offering suggestions. In the meantime I took Ron 
Johnson's suggestion and asked my daughter to bring me 2 GeForce series 
6 cards, when she comes down.


Hugo


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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-05 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/05/08 06:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

[snip]

Really?

I've been using the native ftp.nvidia.com driver with Debian for 3-4 
years, without any breakage.



but I get:
The server at ftp.nvidia.com is taking too long to respond.

repeatedly. Normal?


My bad.  It's  ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86.

In that directory is latest.txt, which tells you which file to download.

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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-05 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/05/08 08:40, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:



snip

Just to report back: I resolved this by installing:
ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/96.43.01/

I had to change 1 item to enable running it on 2.6.23-1-686:

line 529 should be:
kmem_cache = kmem_cache_create(name, sizeof(type),  \
0, 0, NULL);\



What file?

That solved the problem of the backleveled ABI *and* the moving cursor 
that I reported in:


http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/12/msg01932.html

Thanks everyone for offering suggestions. In the meantime I took Ron 
Johnson's suggestion and asked my daughter to bring me 2 GeForce series 
6 cards, when she comes down.


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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:



snip

Just to report back: I resolved this by installing:
ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/96.43.01/

I had to change 1 item to enable running it on 2.6.23-1-686:

line 529 should be:


of usr/src/nv/nv-linux.h


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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 01/05/08 06:25, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

[snip]

Really?

I've been using the native ftp.nvidia.com driver with Debian for 
3-4 years, without any breakage.



but I get:
The server at ftp.nvidia.com is taking too long to respond.

repeatedly. Normal?


My bad.  It's  ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86.

In that directory is latest.txt, which tells you which file to download.



Saw that via the links on the download page of nvidia.com. Thanks.


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Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:

Backtrace:
0: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x7e) [0x80c660e]
1: [0xe420]
2: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_malloc+0x8d) [0xb7d11d2d]
3: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(XNFalloc+0x27) [0x81b4507]
4: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86AddInputDriver+0x6b) [0x80cfeab]
5: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so(_nv000813X+0x63) 
[0xb71716c3]

6: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(main+0x296) [0x8074516]
7: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe0) [0xb7cba450]
8: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x205) [0x8073a81]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

Running:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
Linux debian 2.6.23-1-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 9 10:02:52 CST 2007 
i686 GNU/Linux


and:
ii  xserver-xorg 1:7.2-5the 
X.Org X server
ii  xserver-xorg-core2:1.4.1~git20071212-2  Xorg X 
server - core server


with:
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run

Errors show up in Xorg.0.log:

(EE) NVIDIA(0): = WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING =
(EE) NVIDIA(0): This server has a video driver ABI version of 2.0 but this
(EE) NVIDIA(0): driver is designed to work with versions before 2.0.
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Please check http://www.nvidia.com/ for driver 
updates or

(EE) NVIDIA(0): downgrade to an X server with a supported driver ABI.
(EE) NVIDIA(0): ===

But despite setting -ignoreABI in gdm.conf, still persists.

Hugo
Section ServerLayout
Identifier  X0
Screen  0   Screen X0 0 0
InputDevice Mouse0 CorePointer 
InputDevice Keyboard0 CoreKeyboard
#   Option  SingleCard true   
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier  X1
Screen  0   Screen X1 0 0
InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer
InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard
#   Option  SingleCard true   
#   Option  BlankTime  3600
EndSection

Section Extensions
Option  Composite Enable
#   Option  RENDEREnable
EndSection

Section ServerLayout   
Identifier  Xinerama  
 
Screen  Screen x0 
   
Screen  Screen x1 Rightof Screen x0  
InputDevice Mouse0 CorePointer
InputDevice Keyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection   

Section Files
ModulePath  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/
ModulePath  /usr/lib/xorg/modules/ 
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
#   xfs-xtt
#   FontPath unix/:7100
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  dbe
#   turned on 11/15/06!
Load  dri
Load  extmod
Load  glx
Load  pex5
Load  record
Load  xie
Load  type1
#-- 
Loadfreetype
#   Loadtype1
Loadxft
#   Loadextmod
#   Loadxie
#   Loadpex5
#   Loadglx
#   Loaddri
#   LoadGLcore
#   Loaddbe
#---
EndSection

#Section InputDevice
#   Identifier  Keyboard0
#   Driver  kbd
#   Option  XkbModelpc105
#   Option  XkbLayout   us_intl
#   Option  XkbOptions  alt-intl
#EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier   Keyboard0
Driver   evdev
#   Option   Device /dev/input/event0
Option   Phys   isa0060/serio1/input0
Option   XkbLayout  us_intl
Option   Xleds  2 3
EndSection

#Section InputDevice
#   Identifier  Keyboard1
#   Driver  kbd
#   Option  XkbModelpc105
#   Option  XkbLayout   us_intl
#EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier   Keyboard1
Driver   evdev
#   Option   Device /dev/input/event1
Option   Phys   isa0060/serio0/input0
Option   XkbLayout  us_intl
Option   Xleds  2 3
EndSection

#http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Mouse+Buttons
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  evdev
Option  Device /dev/input/event5 # (cat 

Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Paul Csanyi
Hello!

2008/1/4, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:

It seems that that nvidia driver doesn't works still on SID?

I try to use nvidia driver on Etch, but without success.
I think about to upgrade to SID, but now, well, I don't know..

Look here my shot to solve this problem with nvidia driver!

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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Damon L. Chesser

On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 06:45 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:
 
 Backtrace:
 0: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x7e) [0x80c660e]
 1: [0xe420]
 2: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_malloc+0x8d) [0xb7d11d2d]
 3: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(XNFalloc+0x27) [0x81b4507]
 4: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86AddInputDriver+0x6b) [0x80cfeab]
 5: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so(_nv000813X+0x63) 
 [0xb71716c3]
 6: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(main+0x296) [0x8074516]
 7: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe0) [0xb7cba450]
 8: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x205) [0x8073a81]
 
 Fatal server error:
 Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
 
 Running:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
 Linux debian 2.6.23-1-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 9 10:02:52 CST 2007 
 i686 GNU/Linux
 
 and:
 ii  xserver-xorg 1:7.2-5the 
 X.Org X server
 ii  xserver-xorg-core2:1.4.1~git20071212-2  Xorg X 
 server - core server
 
 with:
 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
 

Here is what I have:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/damon# uname -a
Linux dam-main 2.6.23-1-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 21 12:00:17 UTC 2007 x86_64
GNU/Linux

ii  xserver-xorg 1:7.3+9
the X.Org X server
ii  xserver-xorg-core2:1.4.1~git20071212-2
Xorg X server - core server

However, I made nvidia the debian way:  

http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#head-66567b721cdb947ee9ff623b85cc9a3db2cfb471

I have no issues that you discribe.  I did notice that you have dri
loading:   Load  dri

from the above link:  Edit your X config file: 

  * In the Module section, be sure that you have a line: 
Load glx 
 
and remove or comment out (prepend with a #) any lines that
refer to the dri or GLCore modules. 






 Errors show up in Xorg.0.log:
 
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): = WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING =
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): This server has a video driver ABI version of 2.0 but this
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): driver is designed to work with versions before 2.0.
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): Please check http://www.nvidia.com/ for driver 
 updates or
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): downgrade to an X server with a supported driver ABI.
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): ===
 
 But despite setting -ignoreABI in gdm.conf, still persists.
 
 Hugo

I conclude that this is perhaps due to the DRI being loaded and/or
running the latest binary from Nvidia.  However I never had an issue
running the latest sid xorg with the latest debian nvidia glx. 

HTH

Damon L. Chesser






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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 01/04/08 06:45, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:
 
 Backtrace:
 0: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x7e) [0x80c660e]
 1: [0xe420]
[snip]
 
 with:
 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
 
 Errors show up in Xorg.0.log:
 
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): = WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING =
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): This server has a video driver ABI version of 2.0 but this
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): driver is designed to work with versions before 2.0.
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): Please check http://www.nvidia.com/ for driver
 updates or
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): downgrade to an X server with a supported driver ABI.
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): ===
 
 But despite setting -ignoreABI in gdm.conf, still persists.

When I got a similar error, I bumped up to the v169.04 of the driver.

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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Paul Csanyi
2008/1/4, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Paul Csanyi wrote:
  2008/1/4, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:
 
  It seems that that nvidia driver doesn't works still on SID?
 
  I try to use nvidia driver on Etch, but without success.
  I think about to upgrade to SID, but now, well, I don't know..
 
  Look here my shot to solve this problem with nvidia driver!

 Where?

Sorry, I was in a hurry.

Here:
http://www.debiantutorials.org/talkitup/index.php?topic=39.msg2630#msg2630

 And Etch cannot have this problem because it occurs only with the latest
 Xorg: Lenny (but I don't have that) and Sid.

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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Paul Csanyi wrote:

Hello!

2008/1/4, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:


It seems that that nvidia driver doesn't works still on SID?

I try to use nvidia driver on Etch, but without success.
I think about to upgrade to SID, but now, well, I don't know..

Look here my shot to solve this problem with nvidia driver!



Where?

And Etch cannot have this problem because it occurs only with the latest 
Xorg: Lenny (but I don't have that) and Sid.


Hugo



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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread steef

Paul Csanyi wrote:

Hello!

2008/1/4, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  

I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:



It seems that that nvidia driver doesn't works still on SID?

I try to use nvidia driver on Etch, but without success.
I think about to upgrade to SID, but now, well, I don't know..

Look here my shot to solve this problem with nvidia driver!

  

hey, the latest nvidia-driver *from their site*  works fine under etch

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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Damon L. Chesser wrote:

On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 06:45 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


snip



I conclude that this is perhaps due to the DRI being loaded and/or
running the latest binary from Nvidia.  However I never had an issue
running the latest sid xorg with the latest debian nvidia glx. 



Thanks Damon. If you run the latest Sid nvidia driver that would be 
version 100.14.19 which came out 09/18/07


As I told Ron, I have to use the 96xx legacy series because of the cards 
that I have.


nv really does not compare with nvidia.
my multi-seat users need X.
I guess I am looking for new videocards.

Hugo


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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 01/04/08 06:45, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:

Backtrace:
0: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x7e) [0x80c660e]
1: [0xe420]

[snip]

with:
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run

Errors show up in Xorg.0.log:

(EE) NVIDIA(0): = WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING =
(EE) NVIDIA(0): This server has a video driver ABI version of 2.0 but this
(EE) NVIDIA(0): driver is designed to work with versions before 2.0.
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Please check http://www.nvidia.com/ for driver
updates or
(EE) NVIDIA(0): downgrade to an X server with a supported driver ABI.
(EE) NVIDIA(0): ===

But despite setting -ignoreABI in gdm.conf, still persists.


When I got a similar error, I bumped up to the v169.04 of the driver.



Sad to say :-( I have:
product: NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]
product: NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]

and those need legacy 96xx driver, so no bumping...
Hugo


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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Chris Howie wrote:
(Resending, apparently GMail is not smart enough to reply to the list by 
default.  Sorry, Ron.)


On Jan 4, 2008 10:44 AM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Sad to say :-( I have:
  product: NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]
  product: NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]
 
  and those need legacy 96xx driver, so no bumping...

Well, you're screwed.  I see three options:
1. Use nv.
2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130039
3. Use the console.


And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why closed source drivers suck.  :)



But economically speaking, while sucking, I go look for the GeForce 6200 
cards and shell out about $90 for 2 cards.


I am not doing that if the nv driver were to function anywhere near the 
nvidia driver.


Still sucking, nvidia wins. But X sucks also because they started it 
this time.


Hugo


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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Damon L. Chesser

On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 09:59 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Damon L. Chesser wrote:
  On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 06:45 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 
 snip
 
  
  I conclude that this is perhaps due to the DRI being loaded and/or
  running the latest binary from Nvidia.  However I never had an issue
  running the latest sid xorg with the latest debian nvidia glx. 
  
 
 Thanks Damon. If you run the latest Sid nvidia driver that would be 
 version 100.14.19 which came out 09/18/07
 
 As I told Ron, I have to use the 96xx legacy series because of the cards 
 that I have.
 
 nv really does not compare with nvidia.
 my multi-seat users need X.
 I guess I am looking for new videocards.
 
 Hugo

Hugo,

I think you mis-understand:  I run nvidia as a driver.  I just don't use
the Nvidia installer from Nvidia.  I use modual assistant to make the
drivers as per that link I sent.  Try it.  However, I know from
supporting RHEL that if you use the Nvidia installer, it is well known
to break things as it installs files where ever it wants to.  You will
have to insure all parts of it are installed.  I once read a posting
from a RH employee/devoloper how it breaks things (and hence will not be
supported by RH if sysreport shows it is installed) but the details are
forgotten.

HTH.

Damon L. Chesser
 
 


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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 01/04/08 09:35, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 01/04/08 06:45, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Hi,

 I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:

 Backtrace:
 0: /usr/X11R6/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x7e) [0x80c660e]
 1: [0xe420]
 [snip]
 with:
 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run

 Errors show up in Xorg.0.log:

 (EE) NVIDIA(0): = WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING
 =
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): This server has a video driver ABI version of 2.0 but
 this
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): driver is designed to work with versions before 2.0.
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): Please check http://www.nvidia.com/ for driver
 updates or
 (EE) NVIDIA(0): downgrade to an X server with a supported driver
 ABI.
 (EE) NVIDIA(0):
 ===

 But despite setting -ignoreABI in gdm.conf, still persists.

 When I got a similar error, I bumped up to the v169.04 of the driver.

 
 Sad to say :-( I have:
 product: NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]
 product: NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]
 
 and those need legacy 96xx driver, so no bumping...

Well, you're screwed.  I see three options:
1. Use nv.
2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130039
3. Use the console.

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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Chris Howie
On Jan 4, 2008 11:18 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Chris Howie wrote:
  And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why closed source drivers suck.  :)

 But economically speaking, while sucking, I go look for the GeForce 6200
 cards and shell out about $90 for 2 cards.

 I am not doing that if the nv driver were to function anywhere near the
 nvidia driver.

 Still sucking, nvidia wins. But X sucks also because they started it
 this time.


My point was not that the existing open-source drivers are amazing, but that
by not releasing their drivers as open, nVidia can force users to upgrade to
newer cards by simply ceasing to support older cards on newer drivers or by
not fixing older drivers to work with never environments.  They cannot be
blamed, since they cannot support older hardware forever, but idealistically
the FLOSS community *would* be able to if the drivers were open.

(FYI, I do use the closed nvidia driver, and I do support them for actually
releasing a well-functioning Linux driver, but my point still stands.)

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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Paul Csanyi
2008/1/4, steef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Paul Csanyi wrote:

  2008/1/4, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
  I am getting an X server crash after upgrading xorg on Sid to 7.3:
 
 
  It seems that that nvidia driver doesn't works still on SID?
 
  I try to use nvidia driver on Etch, but without success.
  I think about to upgrade to SID, but now, well, I don't know..
 
  Look here my shot to solve this problem with nvidia driver!
 
 
 hey, the latest nvidia-driver *from their site*  works fine under etch

Not with my video card and CPU! :(

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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Chris Howie
(Resending, apparently GMail is not smart enough to reply to the list by
default.  Sorry, Ron.)

On Jan 4, 2008 10:44 AM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Sad to say :-( I have:
  product: NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]
  product: NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]
 
  and those need legacy 96xx driver, so no bumping...

 Well, you're screwed.  I see three options:
 1. Use nv.
 2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130039
 3. Use the console.


And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why closed source drivers suck.  :)

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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/04/08 10:12, Damon L. Chesser wrote:

On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 09:59 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Damon L. Chesser wrote:

On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 06:45 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

snip


I conclude that this is perhaps due to the DRI being loaded and/or
running the latest binary from Nvidia.  However I never had an issue
running the latest sid xorg with the latest debian nvidia glx. 

Thanks Damon. If you run the latest Sid nvidia driver that would be 
version 100.14.19 which came out 09/18/07


As I told Ron, I have to use the 96xx legacy series because of the cards 
that I have.


nv really does not compare with nvidia.
my multi-seat users need X.
I guess I am looking for new videocards.

Hugo


Hugo,

I think you mis-understand:  I run nvidia as a driver.  I just don't use
the Nvidia installer from Nvidia.  I use modual assistant to make the
drivers as per that link I sent.  Try it.  However, I know from
supporting RHEL that if you use the Nvidia installer, it is well known
to break things as it installs files where ever it wants to.  You will


Really?

I've been using the native ftp.nvidia.com driver with Debian for 
3-4 years, without any breakage.


The only thing I have to remember is to symlink libglx.so.169.04 to 
libglx.so whenever xserver-xorg-core is updated.


$ ls -1l libglx.so*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 31 03:03 libglx.so -
  libglx.so.169.04
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 763496 Dec  3 22:25 libglx.so.169.04
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 429010 Dec 21 18:43 libglx.so.software



have to insure all parts of it are installed.  I once read a posting
from a RH employee/devoloper how it breaks things (and hence will not be
supported by RH if sysreport shows it is installed) but the details are
forgotten.


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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri January 4 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
 I've been using the native ftp.nvidia.com driver with Debian for
 3-4 years, without any breakage.

 The only thing I have to remember is to symlink libglx.so.169.04 to
 libglx.so whenever xserver-xorg-core is updated.

 $ ls -1l libglx.so*
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     16 Dec 31 03:03 libglx.so -
                                                    libglx.so.169.04
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 763496 Dec  3 22:25 libglx.so.169.04
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 429010 Dec 21 18:43 libglx.so.software

could you explain that process a little more please, I may want to do that. My 
system breaks every time there is an update it seems..
I have the GEForce 7300 card, running Lenny and I usually end up trying the 
NVIDIA*.run 3 or four times before it works, rebooting, X crashes... 
repeat...

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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/04/08 12:28, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On Fri January 4 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:

I've been using the native ftp.nvidia.com driver with Debian for
3-4 years, without any breakage.

The only thing I have to remember is to symlink libglx.so.169.04 to
libglx.so whenever xserver-xorg-core is updated.

$ ls -1l libglx.so*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 31 03:03 libglx.so -
   libglx.so.169.04
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 763496 Dec  3 22:25 libglx.so.169.04
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 429010 Dec 21 18:43 libglx.so.software


could you explain that process a little more please, I may want to do that. My 
system breaks every time there is an update it seems..
I have the GEForce 7300 card, running Lenny and I usually end up trying the 
NVIDIA*.run 3 or four times before it works, rebooting, X crashes... 
repeat...


Sorry for not specifying the directory where libglx.so lives:
   /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions

If libglx.so is not a link, then I force it to be a symlink from 
libglx.so.NNN.NN.


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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri January 4 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
  $ ls -1l libglx.so*
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     16 Dec 31 03:03 libglx.so -
                                                     libglx.so.169.04
  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 763496 Dec  3 22:25 libglx.so.169.04
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 429010 Dec 21 18:43 libglx.so.software
 
  could you explain that process a little more please, I may want to do
  that. My system breaks every time there is an update it seems..
  I have the GEForce 7300 card, running Lenny and I usually end up trying
  the NVIDIA*.run 3 or four times before it works, rebooting, X crashes...
  repeat...

 Sorry for not specifying the directory where libglx.so lives:
     /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions

 If libglx.so is not a link, then I force it to be a symlink from
 libglx.so.NNN.NN.
paulandcilla:/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions# ls -l
total 960
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  19291 2007-10-20 08:17 libdbe.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  35695 2007-10-20 08:17 libdri.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 148368 2007-10-20 08:17 libextmod.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2007-12-15 11:05 libglx.so - 
libglx.so.100.14.19
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 695048 2007-12-15 11:05 libglx.so.100.14.19
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  27925 2007-10-20 08:17 librecord.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  40017 2007-10-20 08:17 libxtrap.so

does this mean mine already has a simlink?


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Re: Anyone run nvidia driver + latest xorg 7.3?

2008-01-04 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/04/08 19:59, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On Fri January 4 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:

$ ls -1l libglx.so*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 31 03:03 libglx.so -
   libglx.so.169.04
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 763496 Dec  3 22:25 libglx.so.169.04
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 429010 Dec 21 18:43 libglx.so.software

could you explain that process a little more please, I may want to do
that. My system breaks every time there is an update it seems..
I have the GEForce 7300 card, running Lenny and I usually end up trying
the NVIDIA*.run 3 or four times before it works, rebooting, X crashes...
repeat...

Sorry for not specifying the directory where libglx.so lives:
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions

If libglx.so is not a link, then I force it to be a symlink from
libglx.so.NNN.NN.

paulandcilla:/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions# ls -l
total 960
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  19291 2007-10-20 08:17 libdbe.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  35695 2007-10-20 08:17 libdri.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 148368 2007-10-20 08:17 libextmod.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2007-12-15 11:05 libglx.so - 
libglx.so.100.14.19

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 695048 2007-12-15 11:05 libglx.so.100.14.19
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  27925 2007-10-20 08:17 librecord.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  40017 2007-10-20 08:17 libxtrap.so

does this mean mine already has a simlink?


Yuppers.

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