Re: Apache2 Still Dying (Solved!)
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:56:45 -0800 Raquel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? -- Raquel At least I think it's solved! The server has been serving pages for 24 hours now and doesn't seem to be slowing. I'm so happy. Maybe this horrible headache I've had for the past week will finally abate. The culprit? php5-clamav I removed the php5-clamav module and everyone seems happy! -- Raquel It is no longer good enough to cry peace. We must act peace, live peace and live in peace. --Native America Proverb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Still Dying (Solved!)
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:16:49AM -0800, Raquel wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:56:45 -0800 Raquel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? -- Raquel At least I think it's solved! The server has been serving pages for 24 hours now and doesn't seem to be slowing. I'm so happy. Maybe this horrible headache I've had for the past week will finally abate. The culprit? php5-clamav I removed the php5-clamav module and everyone seems happy! Were you actually using php5-clamav or was it just randomly on? Im always curious about clamav stuff as its the weak link in my mail system. Its so large that it maxes out my mail server's memory and causes swapping which will cause clamav to not respond in time... blah blah blah... paniclog entries. annoying. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Clamav (was Re: Apache2 Still Dying (Solved!))
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:36:46 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:16:49AM -0800, Raquel wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:56:45 -0800 Raquel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? -- Raquel At least I think it's solved! The server has been serving pages for 24 hours now and doesn't seem to be slowing. I'm so happy. Maybe this horrible headache I've had for the past week will finally abate. The culprit? php5-clamav I removed the php5-clamav module and everyone seems happy! Were you actually using php5-clamav or was it just randomly on? Im always curious about clamav stuff as its the weak link in my mail system. Its so large that it maxes out my mail server's memory and causes swapping which will cause clamav to not respond in time... blah blah blah... paniclog entries. annoying. A I use clamav on all my servers and haven't noticed a huge load like you're describing. Of course, I may not get as much mail as you do either. I have it set so that it checks all incoming mail and it also checks the file system every so often. php5-clamav is supposed to scan any files uploaded via a php script. Somewhere (I wasn't able to determine where) it was doing something that stopped Apache from serving pages. I wonder why you're getting such a load from clamav? -- Raquel Freedom is the emancipation from the arbitrary rule of other men. --Mortimer Adler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clamav (was Re: Apache2 Still Dying (Solved!))
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:49:54AM -0800, Raquel wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:36:46 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:16:49AM -0800, Raquel wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:56:45 -0800 Raquel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? -- Raquel At least I think it's solved! The server has been serving pages for 24 hours now and doesn't seem to be slowing. I'm so happy. Maybe this horrible headache I've had for the past week will finally abate. The culprit? php5-clamav I removed the php5-clamav module and everyone seems happy! Were you actually using php5-clamav or was it just randomly on? Im always curious about clamav stuff as its the weak link in my mail system. Its so large that it maxes out my mail server's memory and causes swapping which will cause clamav to not respond in time... blah blah blah... paniclog entries. annoying. I use clamav on all my servers and haven't noticed a huge load like you're describing. Of course, I may not get as much mail as you do either. I have it set so that it checks all incoming mail and it also checks the file system every so often. php5-clamav is supposed to scan any files uploaded via a php script. Somewhere (I wasn't able to determine where) it was doing something that stopped Apache from serving pages. I wonder why you're getting such a load from clamav? its a memory issue. I've not got enough memory in that machine. Clamav gets a pretty big memory footprint and it ends up getting swapped out. When the machine is in the midst of cron jobs or other load generating/disk intensive stuff, it will timeout while waiting to swap back in. No biggie. just need to up the memory. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Clamav (was Re: Apache2 Still Dying (Solved!))
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:40:21 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:49:54AM -0800, Raquel wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:36:46 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were you actually using php5-clamav or was it just randomly on? Im always curious about clamav stuff as its the weak link in my mail system. Its so large that it maxes out my mail server's memory and causes swapping which will cause clamav to not respond in time... blah blah blah... paniclog entries. annoying. I use clamav on all my servers and haven't noticed a huge load like you're describing. Of course, I may not get as much mail as you do either. I have it set so that it checks all incoming mail and it also checks the file system every so often. php5-clamav is supposed to scan any files uploaded via a php script. Somewhere (I wasn't able to determine where) it was doing something that stopped Apache from serving pages. I wonder why you're getting such a load from clamav? its a memory issue. I've not got enough memory in that machine. Clamav gets a pretty big memory footprint and it ends up getting swapped out. When the machine is in the midst of cron jobs or other load generating/disk intensive stuff, it will timeout while waiting to swap back in. No biggie. just need to up the memory. A My mail machine has 512MB. The one where Apache would stop serving pages, and where I removed php5-clamav, has 1GB. -- Raquel As long as I have any choice in the matter, I will live only in a country where civil liberty, tolerance and equality of ALL citizens before the law are the rule. --Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
Hi Raquel, On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 07:56:45PM -0800, Raquel wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. Once it dies, what happens if you do a ps to find the running apache children (by default running under username www-data) and strace one of them with strace -p? If the output is large, please could you upload it somewhere and post a link to that? Cheers, Andy -- http://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting Encrypted mail welcome - keyid 0x604DE5DB signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:03:59 -0800 Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:31:28 -0800 Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? Also, are all the modules you have loaded completely nesesarry? If so, I'd go ahead and disable those. Have you done any configuration tweaking to anything that might be causing this? Are you logging php? php errors are being logged. anything telling in the php log? When it stops, whats the output of lsof -i:80 ? Any firewalls that might be causing interference? Jeff Absolutely nothing is being logged to the PHP log. Firewall is the same as is running on the other machines (Shorewall, same configurations). The next time it goes down, I'll check lsof-i:80 and let you know. I'm not certain yet, but it does _seem_ to be happening when a WordPress 2.3.1 site is being accessed. However, there doesn't seem to be anything in the logs to indicate that. -- Raquel During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution. --James Madison -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:03:59 -0800 Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:31:28 -0800 Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? So, does apache keep listening and not serving pages, or does it completely die? As far as I can tell, Apache keeps listening but stops serving pages. Also, are all the modules you have loaded completely nesesarry? If so, I'd go ahead and disable those. Have you done any configuration tweaking to anything that might be causing this? Are you logging php? alias.load authz_groupfile cgi include php5.conf auth_basic authz_host dir info php5 authn_file authz_user dir mime rewrite auth_pam autoindex env negotiation setenvif authz_default cache expires perl status php errors are being logged. anything telling in the php log? When it stops, whats the output of lsof -i:80 ? Any firewalls that might be causing interference? Jeff missy:/etc/init.d# lsof -i:80 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME apache2 6571 root4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8281 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8312 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8361 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8362 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8385 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8387 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8389 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) -- Raquel It is easy to take liberty for granted when you have never had it taken from you. --M. Grundler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
Raquel wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:03:59 -0800 Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:31:28 -0800 Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? So, does apache keep listening and not serving pages, or does it completely die? As far as I can tell, Apache keeps listening but stops serving pages. Also, are all the modules you have loaded completely nesesarry? If so, I'd go ahead and disable those. Have you done any configuration tweaking to anything that might be causing this? Are you logging php? php errors are being logged. anything telling in the php log? When it stops, whats the output of lsof -i:80 ? Any firewalls that might be causing interference? Jeff missy:/etc/init.d# lsof -i:80 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME apache2 6571 root4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8281 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8312 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8361 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8362 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8385 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8387 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8389 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) Ok, so apache is still alive, just not serving up pages? Is this happening with just the wordpress site? do you have any static html files you can test with? or perhaps put up static test html file? Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:44:02 -0800 Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:03:59 -0800 Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:31:28 -0800 Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? So, does apache keep listening and not serving pages, or does it completely die? As far as I can tell, Apache keeps listening but stops serving pages. Also, are all the modules you have loaded completely nesesarry? If so, I'd go ahead and disable those. Have you done any configuration tweaking to anything that might be causing this? Are you logging php? php errors are being logged. anything telling in the php log? When it stops, whats the output of lsof -i:80 ? Any firewalls that might be causing interference? Jeff missy:/etc/init.d# lsof -i:80 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME apache2 6571 root4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8281 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8312 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8361 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8362 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8385 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8387 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) apache2 8389 www-data4u IPv6 17945 TCP *:www (LISTEN) Ok, so apache is still alive, just not serving up pages? Is this happening with just the wordpress site? do you have any static html files you can test with? or perhaps put up static test html file? Jeff No. Actually no site/page can be served, even a static page, from that machine when Apache stops. The length of time that it continues to serve pages before deciding to stop varies. -- Raquel Beware so long as you live, of judging people by appearances. --La Fontaine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 07:56:45PM -0800, Raquel wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? maybe turn off all the modules, and just serve up a single, simple static page and see what happens. If it goes down, then its apache, if not then its one of the modules or code being run by one of those modules. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
Raquel wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? So, does apache keep listening and not serving pages, or does it completely die? Also, are all the modules you have loaded completely nesesarry? If so, I'd go ahead and disable those. Have you done any configuration tweaking to anything that might be causing this? Are you logging php? Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache2 Still Dying
I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? -- Raquel It is very nearly impossible ... to become an educated person in a country so distrustful of the independent mind. --James Baldwin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
Raquel wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:31:28 -0800 Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? So, does apache keep listening and not serving pages, or does it completely die? As far as I can tell, Apache keeps listening but stops serving pages. Also, are all the modules you have loaded completely nesesarry? If so, I'd go ahead and disable those. Have you done any configuration tweaking to anything that might be causing this? Are you logging php? alias.load authz_groupfile cgi include php5.conf auth_basic authz_host dir info php5 authn_file authz_user dir mime rewrite auth_pam autoindex env negotiation setenvif authz_default cache expires perl status php errors are being logged. anything telling in the php log? When it stops, whats the output of lsof -i:80 ? Any firewalls that might be causing interference? Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:31:28 -0800 Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? So, does apache keep listening and not serving pages, or does it completely die? As far as I can tell, Apache keeps listening but stops serving pages. Also, are all the modules you have loaded completely nesesarry? If so, I'd go ahead and disable those. Have you done any configuration tweaking to anything that might be causing this? Are you logging php? alias.load authz_groupfile cgi include php5.conf auth_basic authz_host dir info php5 authn_file authz_user dir mime rewrite auth_pam autoindex env negotiation setenvif authz_default cache expires perl status php errors are being logged. -- Raquel If men are to be precluded from offering their sentiments on a matter which may involve the most serious and alarming consequences that can invite the consideration of mankind, reason is of no use to us; the freedom of speech may be taken away, and dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter. --George Washington -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
