Re: Aptitude wish list item
On Tue,16.Mar.10, 22:55:47, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:09:05 -0400 Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: After downloading the buggy openoffice suite for the 3rd time in the past month. I would like to propose a new feature for aptitude. File a wishlist bug against aptitude. Or even better against apt. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Aptitude wish list item
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:09:05 -0400, Wayne (linux...@gmail.com) wrote: After downloading the buggy openoffice suite for the 3rd time in the past month. I would like to propose a new feature for aptitude. How about apt-listbugs? apt-listbugs -s all list openoffice.org -- Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. Please reply to the list only. Do NOT send copies directly to me. http://bobcox.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100317083611.ga32...@bobcox.com
Re: Aptitude wish list item
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 08:36 +, Bob Cox wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:09:05 -0400, Wayne (linux...@gmail.com) wrote: After downloading the buggy openoffice suite for the 3rd time in the past month. I would like to propose a new feature for aptitude. How about apt-listbugs? That's exactly what Wayne is talking about IMHO - if you install apt-listbugs it will be run automatically for each package that is to be installed, but *after* all packages have been downloaded, which is a waste of bandwith, time and money. apt-listbugs -s all list openoffice.org Nobody will manually verify each package that is going to be installed. -- .''`. Wolodja Wentlandwentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Aptitude wish list item
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 09:47:55 +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 08:36 +, Bob Cox wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:09:05 -0400, Wayne wrote: After downloading the buggy openoffice suite for the 3rd time in the past month. I would like to propose a new feature for aptitude. How about apt-listbugs? That's exactly what Wayne is talking about IMHO - if you install apt-listbugs it will be run automatically for each package that is to be installed, but *after* all packages have been downloaded, which is a waste of bandwith, time and money. apt-listbugs -s all list openoffice.org Nobody will manually verify each package that is going to be installed. apt-listbugs list $(aptitude -F%p search '~U') -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100317124451.ga5...@isar.localhost
Re: Aptitude wish list item
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 09:47:55 +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 08:36 +, Bob Cox wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:09:05 -0400, Wayne wrote: After downloading the buggy openoffice suite for the 3rd time in the past month. I would like to propose a new feature for aptitude. How about apt-listbugs? That's exactly what Wayne is talking about IMHO - if you install apt-listbugs it will be run automatically for each package that is to be installed, but *after* all packages have been downloaded, which is a waste of bandwith, time and money. apt-listbugs -s all list openoffice.org Nobody will manually verify each package that is going to be installed. apt-listbugs list $(aptitude -F%p search '~U') And then you need to select non-buggy packages and pass them to aptitude install. Sure, can be done by a bash script but I think it deserves to be a standard aptitude operation or something. Alexey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87a8dc11003170606v7dfb20e4i758ebc9136e40...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Aptitude wish list item
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 13:44 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 09:47:55 +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: Nobody will manually verify each package that is going to be installed. apt-listbugs list $(aptitude -F%p search '~U') Thanks for the aptitude-fu, but I don't think that I'll do that every time before I'll upgrade some packages. It also seems as if it is not possible to put these packages on hold *from within apt-listbugs*. I know that this is easily solved with a little more aptitude-fu, but still ... what's wrong with execting apt-listbugs *before* any package is downloaded? I think that the proposed change in apt-listbugs is valid and would endorse it as the effect will be the same, with the important difference that it saves time, bandwith, money and results in less downloads from the mirrors. -- .''`. Wolodja Wentlandwentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Aptitude wish list item
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 14:15:53 +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 13:44 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 09:47:55 +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: Nobody will manually verify each package that is going to be installed. apt-listbugs list $(aptitude -F%p search '~U') Thanks for the aptitude-fu, but I don't think that I'll do that every time before I'll upgrade some packages. It also seems as if it is not possible to put these packages on hold *from within apt-listbugs*. Side note: I would use forbid-version rather than hold to only block upgrades to the specific buggy versions. As you point out yourself below, it is trivial to automate something like this if one wants to do so. I know that this is easily solved with a little more aptitude-fu, but still ... what's wrong with execting apt-listbugs *before* any package is downloaded? I do not think anything is wrong with that and I did not mean to argue against this proposed change. I think that the proposed change in apt-listbugs is valid and would endorse it as the effect will be the same, with the important difference that it saves time, bandwith, money and results in less downloads from the mirrors. My only intention was to point out (what I think is) a reasonably convenient workaround for the present bandwidth-wasting behavior. -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100317140422.ga5...@isar.localhost
Re: Aptitude wish list item
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 14:15:53 +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 13:44 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 09:47:55 +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: Nobody will manually verify each package that is going to be installed. apt-listbugs list $(aptitude -F%p search '~U') Thanks for the aptitude-fu, but I don't think that I'll do that every time before I'll upgrade some packages. It also seems as if it is not possible to put these packages on hold *from within apt-listbugs*. Side note: I would use forbid-version rather than hold to only block upgrades to the specific buggy versions. As you point out yourself below, it is trivial to automate something like this if one wants to do so. I know that this is easily solved with a little more aptitude-fu, but still ... what's wrong with execting apt-listbugs *before* any package is downloaded? I do not think anything is wrong with that and I did not mean to argue against this proposed change. I think that the proposed change in apt-listbugs is valid and would endorse it as the effect will be the same, with the important difference that it saves time, bandwith, money and results in less downloads from the mirrors. My only intention was to point out (what I think is) a reasonably convenient workaround for the present bandwidth-wasting behavior. Thanks Florian. That apt-listbugs list $(aptitude -F%p search '~U') is useful as will as the forbid-version. The change to apt-listbugs had not occurred to me but aptitude would still have to call apt-listbugs *before* the downloads start ,to be useful. Thanks to all that replied. Sorry I did not explain well myself enough for all to understand the proposal. Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ba0f461.8090...@gmail.com
Re: Aptitude wish list item
Bob Cox wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:09:05 -0400, Wayne (linux...@gmail.com) wrote: After downloading the buggy openoffice suite for the 3rd time in the past month. I would like to propose a new feature for aptitude. How about apt-listbugs? apt-listbugs -s all list openoffice.org Sorry Bob, how does that prevent aptitude safe-upgrade from downloading packages that have bugs? I know, and use, apt-listbugs very often now that testing is being deluged with buggy packages from sid, I use it very often, but that was not the question. I could do aptitude -s safe-upgrade. Then run apt-listbugs with all of the proposed downloads. Then use aptitude to put all the buggy packages on hold. Then run aptitude-safe-upgrade again. then... Well you get the idea. I was trying to suggest a 'better way'. Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ba0f6da.9010...@gmail.com
Re: Aptitude wish list item
On Wed,17.Mar.10, 10:31:30, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue,16.Mar.10, 22:55:47, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:09:05 -0400 Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: After downloading the buggy openoffice suite for the 3rd time in the past month. I would like to propose a new feature for aptitude. File a wishlist bug against aptitude. Or even better against apt. That would be #80123. No this is not a typo, the bug is from dec 2000. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Aptitude wish list item
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed,17.Mar.10, 10:31:30, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue,16.Mar.10, 22:55:47, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:09:05 -0400 Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: After downloading the buggy openoffice suite for the 3rd time in the past month. I would like to propose a new feature for aptitude. File a wishlist bug against aptitude. Or even better against apt. That would be #80123. No this is not a typo, the bug is from dec 2000. Wow. I didn't even know what debain is back then :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87a8dc11003172229s60163231wceb71e8b042d3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Aptitude wish list item
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:09:05 -0400 Wayne linux...@gmail.com wrote: After downloading the buggy openoffice suite for the 3rd time in the past month. I would like to propose a new feature for aptitude. File a wishlist bug against aptitude. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100316225547.e9a983dc.cele...@gmail.com
