Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-10 Thread David Stern
On Mon, 09 Feb 1998 18:03:00 +0400, Timothy M. Hospedales wrote:
 Sounds like a dooable crack.
 
 I see a cron.daily, weekly  monthly directory in /etc, with scripts in it,
 which I presume get executed daily weekly and month respectively.
 I'de like it to run every 6 hours. I tried read the cron  cron tab manpages,
 but I'm still clueless as to how to do this I can't find any howto's on
 this either. :(.
 
 Any pointers to doc files, (or actual help:), on this subject?

For things I might forget, I like to put reminder remarks in my files 
and align the columns for easy reading.  This is the for the system 
crontab, but the columns should be the same for all users (except for 
the `user' column, obviously).


# m h  dom mon dow   usercommand
 21 21 *   *   * rootrun-parts /etc/cron.daily
 31 21 *   *   0 rootrun-parts /etc/cron.weekly
 41 21 1   *   * rootrun-parts /etc/cron.monthly


m   minutes (0-59) 
h   hour (0-23)
dom day of month (0-32) 
mon month (1-12 or jan-dec)
dow day of week (0-6 or sun-sat)

commas may separate entries like so:


0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * * /home/kotsya/.checkformail 1 /dev/null 2 /dev/null


asterisks of course match all

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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-09 Thread John Boggon

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Subject: Re: Automating PPP with cron?


 Hi,
 I would like to setup my system to do two things.
 To check periodically to see if my PPP connection has died, and redial
 my isp if it has.
 And to disconnect and redial every 6 hours, (my isp doesn't like it if
 you stay one more than 6 hours consecutively).

 What would be the best way to go about implementing this, and how should
 I start going about it?

Add persist option to pppd.

Alex Y.

Is there a way to limit the number of times that the persist option will
redial ?. I don't want my modem blindly redialling if it can't connect,
would drive my phone bill through the roof !.

John


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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-09 Thread Shaleh
Pardon me for being on a soap box.  I work for an ISP.  It costs us $30
for one phone line, not counting our T or anything else.  Our customers
pay anywhere between 10 and 18 dollars a month.  Every one of them that
hogs a line makes us lose money, gives everyone busy signals, and eats
our T's.  If you need dedicated access -- pay for it.  You are only
stealing from the very people you pay for service.  And when you get a
busy signal, remember why.


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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 11:43:15PM -0500, Shaleh wrote:
 Pardon me for being on a soap box.  I work for an ISP.  It costs us $30
 for one phone line, not counting our T or anything else.  Our customers
 pay anywhere between 10 and 18 dollars a month.  Every one of them that
 hogs a line makes us lose money, gives everyone busy signals, and eats
 our T's.  If you need dedicated access -- pay for it.  You are only
 stealing from the very people you pay for service.  And when you get a
 busy signal, remember why.

Pardon me but it is not nice of you to describe your customers in this way.
Your policies should give you a way to deal with the problem; if you want
to have unlimited access (which I gather is the trend in the USA; we have
quite a high amount of time-charging here in Oz), you should have advertised
time limits per day or per call and you should enforce them. You should not
get on your soapbox on a mailing list about it.


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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

On this topic, why not try diald? Instead of keeping my ppp on
 all the time, I have made t so that I never need know whether I am
 connected or not. I just send mail, start a ftp session, or lynx, or
 query dns -- and the connection is brought up seemlessly.

I go to the other extreme -- a couple of minutes of idle ppp
 causes a disconnect. I only use as much of bandwidth as I need -- and
 I also remove most of the bother of ppp connections.

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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-09 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
Sounds like a dooable crack.

I see a cron.daily, weekly  monthly directory in /etc, with scripts in it,
which I presume get executed daily weekly and month respectively.
I'de like it to run every 6 hours. I tried read the cron  cron tab manpages,
but I'm still clueless as to how to do this I can't find any howto's on
this either. :(.

Any pointers to doc files, (or actual help:), on this subject?

Thanks,
Timothy

 And about the  hours disconnect/connect thing: You could kill pppd with a
 cronjob, but this is rather a bad idea (in the case you are doing a
 download at this moment :-). Maybe using diald is better. Never used it
 though.

 Ciao,
 Martin




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Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-08 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
Hi,
I would like to setup my system to do two things.
To check periodically to see if my PPP connection has died, and redial
my isp if it has.
And to disconnect and redial every 6 hours, (my isp doesn't like it if
you stay one more than 6 hours consecutively).

What would be the best way to go about implementing this, and how should
I start going about it?

Thanks alot!
Timothy


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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-08 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 Hi,
 I would like to setup my system to do two things.
 To check periodically to see if my PPP connection has died, and redial
 my isp if it has.
 And to disconnect and redial every 6 hours, (my isp doesn't like it if
 you stay one more than 6 hours consecutively).
 
 What would be the best way to go about implementing this, and how should
 I start going about it?

Add persist option to pppd.

Alex Y.

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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-08 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Alex Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I would like to setup my system to do two things.
  To check periodically to see if my PPP connection has died, and redial
  my isp if it has.
  And to disconnect and redial every 6 hours, (my isp doesn't like it if
  you stay one more than 6 hours consecutively).
  
  What would be the best way to go about implementing this, and how should
  I start going about it?
 
 Add persist option to pppd.

And about the  hours disconnect/connect thing: You could kill pppd with a
cronjob, but this is rather a bad idea (in the case you are doing a
download at this moment :-). Maybe using diald is better. Never used it
though.

Ciao,
Martin


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