Debian Sarge CD installation query
Hi I'm relatively new to Linux and in particular to the Debian distribution. I have read through the installtion manual for Sarge and see that for a (network-based) CD installation it is possible to use the following images: debian-31r0a-i386-businesscard.iso debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso or the initial CD in the full CD set. My question is this: What are the images (located at /debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/cdrom) used for? .. that is: boot.img debian-cd_info.tar.gz initrd.gz initrd.list vmlinuz Are these used to create a customized bootable CD to initiate the installation process or are these files used in an installation process that is analogous to one that makes use of the floppies? Can anyone please explain how they are used? Simon
Re: Debian Sarge CD installation query
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:54:59PM +0100, Simon Atkinson wrote: Hi I'm relatively new to Linux and in particular to the Debian distribution. I have read through the installtion manual for Sarge and see that for a (network-based) CD installation it is possible to use the following images: debian-31r0a-i386-businesscard.iso debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso Yes. or the initial CD in the full CD set. Yes. The difference is that if you download the first full CD, there will be a greater number of packages locally available to you. It will likely speed up the install for you, espcially if you have a poor internet connectivity. My question is this: What are the images (located at /debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/cdrom) used for? .. that is: boot.img debian-cd_info.tar.gz initrd.gz initrd.list vmlinuz Are these used to create a customized bootable CD to initiate the installation process or are these files used in an installation process that is analogous to one that makes use of the floppies? Can anyone please explain how they are used? I believe the boot.img is the boot floppy image used on the CDs and can also be dumped to a 3.5 floppy to make a bootable floppy. The other files can be grabbed by jigdo to make a CD. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpnLM3xav3uo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sarge Cd Installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have downloaded a weekly build of sarge and burned 9 of 13 cd's onto rewriteables (ran out). Everything is working really nicely, and I'm quite impressed. I am however wondering if there is a way for me to combine the iso's (or just the packages) together on my hard drive somewhere and get apt to work from that repository. If you have an internet connection, why didn't you just get the network install CD and install from that, downloading only what you need to the HD? Then apt would have it in it's package cache already... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBlmzbUzgNqloQMwcRApC4AKCRpa5bPmxQ9rcnWE3OGbNqoMSOlACfVYny WRPefhp8dxU8s9xJJcXxEt8= =kjKL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge Cd Installation
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 16:45, Paul Tsai wrote: Thanx for the advice. I unfortunately don't have internet access at home, which is why I am working off the cd's. Is there a way to change apt.conf to look off a hard drive location? See http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto section 2.2 How to use APT locally -- Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sarge Cd Installation
I have downloaded a weekly build of sarge and burned 9 of 13 cd's onto rewriteables (ran out). Everything is working really nicely, and I'm quite impressed. I am however wondering if there is a way for me to combine the iso's (or just the packages) together on my hard drive somewhere and get apt to work from that repository. thanx in adavance Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge Cd Installation
You can mirror it with debmirror ... you find debmirror in sarge. for ex., if you want to put the mirror in /home/ftp/debian, get Sarge (testing) and the sections main,contrib,non-free for i386: debmirror /home/ftp/debian/ --nosource --passive \ --host=ftp.ro.debian.org --dist=testing \ --section=main,contrib,non-free \ --arch=i386 --progress --verbose skip main/debian-installer section mentioned in man, it fails to download e.p. On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:22:02 -0500 Paul Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have downloaded a weekly build of sarge and burned 9 of 13 cd's onto rewriteables (ran out). Everything is working really nicely, and I'm quite impressed. I am however wondering if there is a way for me to combine the iso's (or just the packages) together on my hard drive somewhere and get apt to work from that repository. thanx in adavance Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge Cd Installation
Thanx for the advice. I unfortunately don't have internet access at home, which is why I am working off the cd's. Is there a way to change apt.conf to look off a hard drive location? Paul Emil Perhinschi wrote: You can mirror it with debmirror ... you find debmirror in sarge. for ex., if you want to put the mirror in /home/ftp/debian, get Sarge (testing) and the sections main,contrib,non-free for i386: debmirror /home/ftp/debian/ --nosource --passive \ --host=ftp.ro.debian.org --dist=testing \ --section=main,contrib,non-free \ --arch=i386 --progress --verbose skip main/debian-installer section mentioned in man, it fails to download e.p. On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:22:02 -0500 Paul Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have downloaded a weekly build of sarge and burned 9 of 13 cd's onto rewriteables (ran out). Everything is working really nicely, and I'm quite impressed. I am however wondering if there is a way for me to combine the iso's (or just the packages) together on my hard drive somewhere and get apt to work from that repository. thanx in adavance Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge Cd Installation
Hello Paul Tsai ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have downloaded a weekly build of sarge and burned 9 of 13 cd's onto rewriteables (ran out). Everything is working really nicely, and I'm quite impressed. I am however wondering if there is a way for me to combine the iso's (or just the packages) together on my hard drive somewhere and get apt to work from that repository. There are probably many ways. One is to copy all the deb packages (use find to get them) to one directory, and use apt-move to create a archive that can be used by apt. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 ICQ #17079270 Registered Linux User #267976 http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps-sarge.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Installation Sid und Sarge
Moin Martin! Martin schrieb am Saturday, den 21. September 2002: Hallo erstmal... im juni habe ich Sid von CD installiert, keine Probleme. Kernel 2.4 und ein paar USB-Module für Maus und Tastatur von Hand und ich konnte installieren. Jetzt mit den CDs vom 8.9, 15.9 (auch sarge versucht) hängt sich alles auf. Irgendein Modul slang.so nicht gefunden, die Meldung läuft aber in einer Endlosschleife über den Schirm, bis ich resete. Ich habe unterschiedlichste Cds gebrannt: Immer dasselbe. Was habe ich verpasst? Es gibt keine offiziellen Sarge- oder Sid-CDs, nerve also deine CD-Quelle. Ich vermutte, die setzen jetzt Debian-Installer ein, und der ist von Zeit zur Zeit ziemlich kaputt. Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- StevenKAnd the whole ARGH! What kind of drugs was I on when I coded *that*!? moshez aj: wow, quality alcohol BlindMan moshez: he needs quality alc for quality code ;) -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
CD Installation Sid und Sarge
Hallo erstmal... im juni habe ich Sid von CD installiert, keine Probleme. Kernel 2.4 und ein paar USB-Module für Maus und Tastatur von Hand und ich konnte installieren. Jetzt mit den CDs vom 8.9, 15.9 (auch sarge versucht) hängt sich alles auf. Irgendein Modul slang.so nicht gefunden, die Meldung läuft aber in einer Endlosschleife über den Schirm, bis ich resete. Ich habe unterschiedlichste Cds gebrannt: Immer dasselbe. Was habe ich verpasst? Martin P.S. Auch von Diskette booten klappt nicht aber andere Fehlermeldung, sehr kryptisch, nur Buchstaben und Zahlen, sowas wie: DCFX : 008 AGHI : 0099 (habe ich jetzt willkürlich gewählt, da ich mir den Kram nicht notiert habe...) -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Single floppy to CD installation
Is it possible to download (from anywhere) a single floppy disk (1.44) that will provide access to installation from the CD-ROMS onto a clean system with no dos and will format as Linux. John Sherman
Re: Single floppy to CD installation
On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 10:02:11PM +0100, John W Sherman wrote: | Is it possible to download (from anywhere) a single floppy disk | (1.44) that will provide access to installation from the CD-ROMS | onto a clean system with no dos and will format as Linux. Have you seen http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install ? On that page is instructions on installing which include the following links : http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/rescue.bin http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/root.bin HTH, -D
Single and multi CD installation solved (was Re: debs)
Quoting dkphoto ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Oops, too late. In a pique of fury I reformatted the drive in question and started clean. This time I triple-checked everything I entered before entering it and made it all the way to the screen that asks if I am installing from multi- or single CD. Having very carefully read the instructions (bought a book on installing Debian Linux which gave the same instructions and therefore reassured me), I chose the multi-CD method. As it asked me to input paths, I did, and am certain (how could I not after so much practice) I got them right. Then of course I hit the update button, and dselect prompty FAILED!!! I tried to just go ahead and install. Dselect failed again. Then I remembered that someone told me that once I had selected a package, that package remained selected, even if dselect was abandoned and started again later, so... I went back, chose the single CD entry, entered all the correct paths again, hit update and voila! It updated. Then I hit install and this time it is actually installing some of the files as it goes through the list, instead of skipping them all. So, there is absolutely no doubt about it. The CORRECT way is to select single CD, not multi-, as the so-called 'instructions' say, and to use multi- only if you actually HAVE the 2nd CD. With a better choice of subject line, your posting would be easier for other people to find. You could submit a bug report with your correction, assuming it hadn't already been reported. No doubt about it... those authors really should do hard time! I think you should reread the rant that Paul posted in message id [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Multiple CD installation tip.
I don't really know why people think it is difficult to install Debian from the 2 CD set. I admit, it took my a while to before I figured it out and this is a real minus, but I think dselect rocks. FROM A NEWBIE TO OTHER NEWBIES: After you install the base system, put the first CD-ROM of the Debian distribution in the tray, fire up dselect and run 'update.' Then take out the first CD-ROM, put in the second CD-ROM and do an 'update' again. If dpkg comes back with the message that info on 2250 packages has been updated you're there. Use the slash and backslash to find what you want and the fun can begin. If the package you want to install is on the other CD-ROM dkpg will ask for it. -- Regarding vendors of Debian CD-ROMs: I bought my set from the Dutch Debian Distribution Initiative (http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/debian/), which are just two brothers/students who want to put their CD-burner to good use. They burn on Arita media (one of the largest CD media producers in Taiwan, who also produces Philips CD-ROMs. My girlfriend made a handsome profit with their stock, no kidding), although the DDDI can't guarantee anything either, of course. But what I mean to say is, if you want to buy Debian on CD-ROM, then do that from people who at least use Debian themselves and who are not out for a profit or name recognition. I guess apart from DDDI there are more these initiatives to be found on http://www.debian.org/distrib/vendors. Hope this helps anybody. -- Hans
Re: Multiple CD installation tip.
Hans == Hans van den Boogert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hans After you install the base system, put the first CD-ROM of the Hans Debian distribution in the tray, fire up dselect and run Hans 'update.' Hans Then take out the first CD-ROM, put in the second CD-ROM and do Hans an 'update' again. If dpkg comes back with the message that info Hans on 2250 packages has been updated you're there. Hans Use the slash and backslash to find what you want and the fun Hans can begin. If the package you want to install is on the other Hans CD-ROM dkpg will ask for it. Addition: And one has to remember to use the multi-cd access method, not cdrom. Ciao, Martin
Re: Newbie cd installation problems
Hi Paul: I'm a newbie also and as I recall I used the rescue floppy to install kernel and modules. Could be all wet tho as I'm still trying to get x windows up and trying to get a game to work. ( I dont think config liked my answers for my card and unless I missed my guess thats what I need for both the games and x, back to hunting in the man's)Dean Paul Walton wrote: I`ve been a Windows user up to now so please excuse my ignorance. I`m trying to install Debian 2.1 from the Official Binary- i386 CD. My computer, a 486 with 2 hard drives, a floppy and a CD drive wouldn`t boot CDs so I started the the installation from DOS, fine. Things went well until I got to the stage Install Operating System Kernel and Modules Seems whichever device I select for the CDROM returns the message The CD-ROM was not mounted successfully I`ve looked at the ttty3 terminal and hda and hdb give the message mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom, or too many mounted file systems hdc and hdd give the message mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/cdrom as a block device (`maybe insmod driver`?) The SCSI option just brings up the No SCSI Adapter screen. All other options give the message mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist To make matters worse this is a spare PC bought cheaply so I have no real idea of any of the hardware specifications, and no Windows OS to check them on. I really would like to escape from Microsoft so any help would be much appreciated. Paul Walton
Newbie cd installation problems
I`ve been a Windows user up to now so please excuse my ignorance. I`m trying to install Debian 2.1 from the Official Binary- i386 CD. My computer, a 486 with 2 hard drives, a floppy and a CD drive wouldn`t boot CDs so I started the the installation from DOS, fine. Things went well until I got to the stage Install Operating System Kernel and Modules Seems whichever device I select for the CDROM returns the message The CD-ROM was not mounted successfully I`ve looked at the ttty3 terminal and hda and hdb give the message mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom, or too many mounted file systems hdc and hdd give the message mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/cdrom as a block device (`maybe insmod driver`?) The SCSI option just brings up the No SCSI Adapter screen. All other options give the message mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist To make matters worse this is a spare PC bought cheaply so I have no real idea of any of the hardware specifications, and no Windows OS to check them on. I really would like to escape from Microsoft so any help would be much appreciated. Paul Walton
Re: DSELECT: can it merge updates after CD installation?
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: Searching the Changelog directories for updated packages (r1 to r6) and installing them with dpkg is a bit tedious. I imagine dpkg-ftp works well in the case of getting non-free packages from a remote site. Is there a way to point dselect at local or remote directories such that it will merge in the new and updated packages? Dselect would then show them in the Newly Available and Updated Packages sections of the selection screen. Looking at dpkg-ftp, it kinda looks like it might do all this (by fetching the complete Packages file?) but there's no DOC that explains what's really going on. Wouldn't you loose track of what files had to be retrieved remotely and which ones where actually on your local CD? Hi, You might want to use: dpkg-scanpackages binarypath overridefile pathprefix Packages and then dpkg --merge-avail Packages-file merge with info from file You can get the overridefile from the indices directory in the archive, but I think you can only run it on packages in a mounted filesystem. If you hack up a Packages file in a clever way you might even be able to let dselect get the packages from the ftp site. Letting dselect install them from a local filesystem is much easier, but that would again require you to dig them out of the ftp site manually. If it is for purpose of keeping a local mirror, then it is probably interesting to look into these tools. They have manpages too. Too bad indeed that there is no global tell-all-the-gory-details-but-do-in-simple-words-with-nice-examples kind of document yet. I intend to write something like that, but until now I have not had the time to really sit down for it. If you want to do me a favor, then tell me about your experiences and I can maybe use them for such HOWTO. Success, Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
DSELECT: can it merge updates after CD installation?
Personally, I've always had enough local disk to mirror the entire Debian distribution, so updating isn't a problem. I have a few co-workers and friends that have installed the official CD but they don't have any other local deb files. IE non-free and the 1.3.1.r1 to 1.3.1.r6 updates. Searching the Changelog directories for updated packages (r1 to r6) and installing them with dpkg is a bit tedious. I imagine dpkg-ftp works well in the case of getting non-free packages from a remote site. Is there a way to point dselect at local or remote directories such that it will merge in the new and updated packages? Dselect would then show them in the Newly Available and Updated Packages sections of the selection screen. Looking at dpkg-ftp, it kinda looks like it might do all this (by fetching the complete Packages file?) but there's no DOC that explains what's really going on. Wouldn't you loose track of what files had to be retrieved remotely and which ones where actually on your local CD? ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CD Installation
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, PATRICK DAHIROC wrote: Hi. I am planning to obtain your official LINUX two CD Set. I have looked at the installation page at your site and there was no instruction for a CD installation. Could you please provide me a set of instruction of the CD installation, the more detailed the better. I also would like to be able to boot to Windows 95 if I need to - is this possible with your LINUX distribution? If it is could also provide instruction for this. I realize that I have to repartition my hard drive - 1.2GB. Is it possible to repartition with out wiping out the files that are already present? Could you also include specific instruction for a multiple partition, i.e. /usr. Last thing, which kernel version is Debian 1.3 based on. Red Hat 4.2 uses the modular 2.0.30 kennel, is the kernel in Debian 1.3 comparable to this kernel. If not could you please list the major differences. Thanks Patrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CD Installation
I am planning to obtain your official LINUX two CD Set. I have looked at the installation page at your site and there was no instruction for a CD installation. Could you please provide me a set of instruction of the CD installation, the more detailed the better. The CD set on the web site is for distributors, not end-users. To install from CD, get a copy of the CD Distribution - one that's advertised here is www.li.org. I've just bought a set from them, but still waiting to receive it. I also would like to be able to boot to Windows 95 if I need to - is this possible with your LINUX distribution? If it is could also provide instruction for this. No problem. See the Linux+Win95 mini-HOWTO under /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini after you install Debian Linux. (This can also be viewed online at: http://www.li.org/Resources/HOWTO/mini/Linux+Win95 I realize that I have to repartition my hard drive - 1.2GB. Is it possible to repartition with out wiping out the files that are already present? Could you also include specific instruction for a multiple partition, i.e. /usr. This might be possible, but won't be easy and would still require a backup. May as well repartition the drive and then restore from the backup's you'd have to make anyway Last thing, which kernel version is Debian 1.3 based on. Red Hat 4.2 uses the modular 2.0.30 kennel, is the kernel in Debian 1.3 comparable to this kernel. If not could you please list the major differences. Debian 1.3.x currently installs 2.0.29, which is very comparable to 2.0.30. However, you can easily upgrade to 2.0.30 at any time because this newer kernel is included with the Debian 1.3 distribution. (i.e. you'll have it on the CDROM) Later, Kevin Traas Systems Analyst Baan Business Systems -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CD Installation
I also would like to be able to boot to Windows 95 if I need to - is this possible with your LINUX distribution? If it is could also provide instruction for this. No problem. See the Linux+Win95 mini-HOWTO under /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini after you install Debian Linux. (This can also be viewed online at: Oops! I should clarify that this will only be installed on your local system after installing the doc-linux package. http://www.li.org/Resources/HOWTO/mini/Linux+Win95 Later, Kevin Traas Systems Analyst Baan Business Systems -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
