Re: sound/CD player question

2004-08-22 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 07:47:26PM -0400, mike wrote:
> I got it to work. The non-privileged user had to be added to the disk 
> group. Thanks for your help.

(Probably) Bad idea.

$ ls -l /dev/hda
brw-rw1 root disk   3,   0 Mar 14  2002 /dev/hda

Your unprivledged user can now extract sensitive info from the drive
(even root.root 600 stuff like /etc/shadow), and change anything (like
say, your password).  You can keep this if you trust yourself to never
make a typo...

I'd suggest adding the user to group CDROM, and (assuming /dev/hdc is
your CD):

chgrp cdrom /dev/hdc


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Re: sound/CD player question

2004-08-22 Thread mike
I got it to work. The non-privileged user had to be added to the disk 
group. Thanks for your help.

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Re: Re: sound/CD player question

2004-08-22 Thread Bram Mertens
On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 19:19, mike wrote:
> Now root can play CDs, not the normal user, inspite of being in the 
> cdrom group.

Time to show I learnt something on this list already! :)

Did you log out and log in again as that user?  Apparently changes to a
user's groups only take affect the next time that user logs in.

HTH

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Re: Re: sound/CD player question

2004-08-22 Thread mike
Now root can play CDs, not the normal user, inspite of being in the 
cdrom group.

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Re: sound/CD player question

2004-08-22 Thread Nicholas Lativy
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 01:32:12PM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2004-08-22, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I got XMMS playing radio. However I cannot play CDs as normal user, and 
> > as root  it shows the countdown of the  seconds, but I get not  sound 
> > output.
> > What could it be?
> 
> It could be that your normal user is not in the cdrom group and that the cd 
> channel is muted.

It could also be that your CD drive is not connected to your sound
card with an audio cable. Since Windows uses the IDE interface to play
CDs rather than the audio cable most new PCs don't have one (I presume
the manufacturer must save a couple of pennies per box by this or
something ;-)).

To get around this with XMMS go into preferences then the
configuration for the input plugin "CD Audio Player [libcdaudio.so]"
and set "Play mode" to "Digital audio extraction" rather than analog.

Hope that helped. :-)

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Re: sound/CD player question

2004-08-22 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Curt (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> On 2004-08-22, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I am running Sarge with the 2.6 kernel (that one that came with the
>> installer)
>> I got XMMS playing radio. However I cannot play CDs as normal user,
>> and as root  it shows the countdown of the  seconds, but I get not  
>> sound output. 
>> What could it be?
> 
> It could be that your normal user is not in the cdrom group and that
> the cd channel is muted.

Kernel 2.6 also does not need IDE SCSI emulation for writing CDs
anymore, so you normally use the IDE device files. However they belong
to the disk group, and you have to change the device file for your
cdrom to group cdrom. And don't forget that you need a cable from your
CD-ROM drive to the sound card, or you need to use the cdread plugin.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: sound/CD player question

2004-08-22 Thread Curt
On 2004-08-22, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am running Sarge with the 2.6 kernel (that one that came with the 
> installer)
> I got XMMS playing radio. However I cannot play CDs as normal user, and 
> as root  it shows the countdown of the  seconds, but I get not  sound 
> output.
> What could it be?

It could be that your normal user is not in the cdrom group and that the cd 
channel is muted.


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sound/CD player question

2004-08-22 Thread mike
I am running Sarge with the 2.6 kernel (that one that came with the 
installer)
I got XMMS playing radio. However I cannot play CDs as normal user, and 
as root  it shows the countdown of the  seconds, but I get not  sound 
output.
What could it be?

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Re: CD player question

1999-09-10 Thread lexchive
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 12:25:39PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 12:32:18PM -0500, David Cureton wrote:
> > Generally CD roms play audio cd's in the following way.
> 
> That's the way I expected. My problem is that I a) saw them add the cable
> and b) it works under M$ Windows.
> 

Another thought: maybe you have something sitting on the sound device (like
esd) and preventing any sound output? There is an option for esd, which makes
it free the device if its not used for a certain time. 

-Lex


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Re: CD player question

1999-09-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 12:32:18PM -0500, David Cureton wrote:
>   Generally CD roms play audio cd's in the following way.

That's the way I expected. My problem is that I a) saw them add the cable
and b) it works under M$ Windows.

Michael

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Re: CD player question

1999-09-09 Thread David Cureton
Hi Micheal,
Generally CD roms play audio cd's in the following way.

The CD-ROM reads the disk at 1x speed and converts the data to a audio signal 
via the internal DAC.

The audio output of your CD-ROM should be connected to your sound card via a 
wire seperate from the power cable and the IDE or SCSI cable.

The soundcard used this audio signal as just another analog  audio source and 
feeds it into the audio mixer just before the speaker outputs. The soundcard 
does NOT do any manipulation of the audio signal in the digital domain. (Basic 
soundcard here)

Therefore your soundcard and CDROM may be doing as they should but are missing 
the audio connection between them. You may have to puchase such a wire and 
install it. 

You can verify you CDROM is working correctly by pluging in headphones to the 
jack on the front of the unit. Using the software of choice command your CD-ROM 
to play an audio the CD. If you hear music you CD-ROM is OK. Look at the 
connection or the soundcard.


Cheer David

 




> 
> Could anyone please explain to me how the CD players put out the music?
> 
> It seems I'm having a problem with the sound card on one of my systems. I
> have one with a isapnp Sounblaster that works fine. For instance I can use
> play to play wav files, splay for MP3s, saytime tells me how late it is and
> xfreecd as well as gtcd play the CD. The only thing that doens't seem to
> work is emusic. But I didn't try more than just hitting PLAY on emusic so
> there is a lot of room for missing configuration on my part.
> 
> My other system using an es1370 chip set PCI card that is (wherever
> possible) identically configured. I have no problem playing WAVs and MP3
> with play resp. splay. But that's about it. None of the CD players gives me
> any output. But I also get no error message at all. And saytime produces
> some static in the speaker. Now saytime uses /dev/audio while play/splay use
> /dev/dsp, so this may explain thsi difference. but why doesn't /dev/audio
> work? And why do all the CD players not say a word?
> 
> As a last note on teh PCI system all works well when using M$. Good sound
> from the CD.
> 
> Michael
> 
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Re: CD player question

1999-09-08 Thread Michael Meskes
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 05:33:09PM +0200, Lex Chive wrote:
> There is a catch with the es1370 driver in the kernel: it does not support the
> /dev/dsp interface the way the other drivers do (eg you cant use 'cat
> myfile.au >/dev/dsp' to produce sound).  If saytime try to use something like

I see. That may very well be the reason why saytime doesn't work. In fact
this is a minor problem. Saytime is a nice toy to impress someone knowing
nothing about computers but other than that, I don't use it much.

> that that might be the problem. I had the with ICQJava before I switched to
> the ALSA drivers (and before I switched to gnomeicu). Thus you might want to
> try the alsa drivers.

Thanks.

> As for your CD sound problem... afaik you dont even need the sound driver to
> get sound from our cd, if you plugged the cd audio cable correctly (but I
> suppose windoze players use this to make sound too, so the cable is probably
> not the problem). No clue on whats happening there. Did you make sure you

That's exactly what I thought. In fact I did see them plug the cable in.

> correctly specified the device to use?

It starts working with the CD. I can switch tracks etc. I just do not get
any music.

> I hope you can get things working :)

Thanks.

Michael

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Re: CD player question

1999-09-08 Thread Lex Chive
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 02:46:25PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
> 
> My other system using an es1370 chip set PCI card that is (wherever
> possible) identically configured. I have no problem playing WAVs and MP3
> with play resp. splay. But that's about it. None of the CD players gives me
> any output. But I also get no error message at all. And saytime produces
> some static in the speaker. Now saytime uses /dev/audio while play/splay use
> /dev/dsp, so this may explain thsi difference. but why doesn't /dev/audio
> work? And why do all the CD players not say a word?
> 

There is a catch with the es1370 driver in the kernel: it does not support the
/dev/dsp interface the way the other drivers do (eg you cant use 'cat
myfile.au >/dev/dsp' to produce sound).  If saytime try to use something like
that that might be the problem. I had the with ICQJava before I switched to
the ALSA drivers (and before I switched to gnomeicu). Thus you might want to
try the alsa drivers.

As for your CD sound problem... afaik you dont even need the sound driver to
get sound from our cd, if you plugged the cd audio cable correctly (but I
suppose windoze players use this to make sound too, so the cable is probably
not the problem). No clue on whats happening there. Did you make sure you
correctly specified the device to use?

I hope you can get things working :)

-Lex


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CD player question

1999-09-08 Thread Michael Meskes
Could anyone please explain to me how the CD players put out the music?

It seems I'm having a problem with the sound card on one of my systems. I
have one with a isapnp Sounblaster that works fine. For instance I can use
play to play wav files, splay for MP3s, saytime tells me how late it is and
xfreecd as well as gtcd play the CD. The only thing that doens't seem to
work is emusic. But I didn't try more than just hitting PLAY on emusic so
there is a lot of room for missing configuration on my part.

My other system using an es1370 chip set PCI card that is (wherever
possible) identically configured. I have no problem playing WAVs and MP3
with play resp. splay. But that's about it. None of the CD players gives me
any output. But I also get no error message at all. And saytime produces
some static in the speaker. Now saytime uses /dev/audio while play/splay use
/dev/dsp, so this may explain thsi difference. but why doesn't /dev/audio
work? And why do all the CD players not say a word?

As a last note on teh PCI system all works well when using M$. Good sound
from the CD.

Michael

P.S.: Please CC me on replies.
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