CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-07 Thread mess-mate

Hi,

suddently i get this message on startup:

udev: deprecated sysfs layout; update the kernel or disable 
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED; some udev features will not work correctly

My.config looks like: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y

Must it be commented (#) or setted to n ?

B.R.




Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-07 Thread Justin Piszcz



On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, mess-mate wrote:


Hi,

suddently i get this message on startup:

udev: deprecated sysfs layout; update the kernel or disable 
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED; some udev features will not work correctly


My.config looks like: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y

Must it be commented (#) or setted to n ?

B.R.





Did you recompile the kernel  are you running the recompiled kernel?

Justin.


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Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009, Jochen Schulz wrote:
  Now when I try to boot, I get the message ... update kernel or 
  disable CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPECATED
 
 This should be negligible.

It is not.  It will likely hang the box during boot as stuff wait for udev
to create nodes that never show up.

I don't know if it will eventually timeout, but if it will, it will take a
_long_ time.

 Yes, please try to be more precise about what happens before the boot
 process hangs. Did you try pressing Ctrl-c or Ctrl-d to abort the

For some reason or another, we don't always have SIGINT (^C) and SIGQUIT
(^\) working properly on the console during early boot (when using sysvinit,
I don't know about upstart).  This is a long-standing issue, which I don't
have the time to track down.  If anyone would like to do it, it would be
really helpful.

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Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-05 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
h...@debian.org wrote:
 On Thu, 03 Dec 2009, Jochen Schulz wrote:
  Now when I try to boot, I get the message ... update kernel or
  disable CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPECATED

 This should be negligible.

 It is not.  It will likely hang the box during boot as stuff wait for udev
 to create nodes that never show up.

 I don't know if it will eventually timeout, but if it will, it will take a
 _long_ time.

[Apologies to Henrique for first replying to him; darn Gmail default!!]

Not in my experience.  I've been booting with this message for several
weeks now, with no observable degradation in boot time.  And if it did
behave as you predict, deprecated is hardly sufficient warning!

Patrick


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Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
 h...@debian.org wrote:
  On Thu, 03 Dec 2009, Jochen Schulz wrote:
   Now when I try to boot, I get the message ... update kernel or
   disable CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPECATED
 
  This should be negligible.
 
  It is not.  It will likely hang the box during boot as stuff wait for udev
  to create nodes that never show up.
 
  I don't know if it will eventually timeout, but if it will, it will take a
  _long_ time.
 
 [Apologies to Henrique for first replying to him; darn Gmail default!!]
 
 Not in my experience.  I've been booting with this message for several
 weeks now, with no observable degradation in boot time.  And if it did
 behave as you predict, deprecated is hardly sufficient warning!

Well, I should have been far more precise about it. It can hang in certain
configs. It did here, and I needed a live-cd to fix the issue.

It could well depend on your arch, kernel config, and set of packages
installed, as well as whether you're using an initrd or not.

Too bad I didn't have the time to fix or track it, so I used a live-cd,
downgraded udev to 146-something, got it to boot, fixed things up in the
kernel, and it is now working properly.  It was not reported to the BTS,
since it would justly deserve an unreproducible needsinfo set of tags most
likely, and I'd have no further info to contribute.

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CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-03 Thread ghammar
I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the  
things that was recommended was to do


apt-get upgrade  apt-get update

Somehow in the process of doing that, there were some changes to the  
kernel. Now when I try to boot, I get the message ... update kernel  
or disable CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPECATED I went into /boot and edited  
config_2.6.26_2-amd64 and changed the y to n for both  
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED and CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2, but the error  
message remains. I can boot into single user mode and access the  
system, but I can't do a complete system boot. It hangs on the CPUFreq  
part. I would like to get my laptop back without completely rebuilding  
the OS.


Any suggestions?

Giff


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Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-03 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM,  gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:
 I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the things
 that was recommended was to do

 apt-get upgrade  apt-get update

 Somehow in the process of doing that, there were some changes to the kernel.
 Now when I try to boot, I get the message ... update kernel or disable
 CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPECATED I went into /boot and edited
 config_2.6.26_2-amd64 and changed the y to n for both
 CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED and CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2, but the error
 message remains. I can boot into single user mode and access the system, but
 I can't do a complete system boot. It hangs on the CPUFreq part. I would
 like to get my laptop back without completely rebuilding the OS.

I've been booting up with that error message for some time now (also
on an amd64 system), with no observable problems.  (Eventually, I'll
move from 2.6.26 to 2.6.30, and I assume the error will go away.)

Patrick


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Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-03 Thread ghammar

Quoting Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM,  gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:

I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the things
that was recommended was to do

apt-get upgrade  apt-get update

Somehow in the process of doing that, there were some changes to the kernel.
Now when I try to boot, I get the message ... update kernel or disable
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPECATED I went into /boot and edited
config_2.6.26_2-amd64 and changed the y to n for both
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED and CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2, but the error
message remains. I can boot into single user mode and access the system, but
I can't do a complete system boot. It hangs on the CPUFreq part. I would
like to get my laptop back without completely rebuilding the OS.


I've been booting up with that error message for some time now (also
on an amd64 system), with no observable problems.  (Eventually, I'll
move from 2.6.26 to 2.6.30, and I assume the error will go away.)

Patrick


Unfortunately in my case, the system hangs and won't finish the boot process.

Giff



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Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-03 Thread Micha

On 03/12/2009 16:00, gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:

I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the
things that was recommended was to do

apt-get upgrade  apt-get update

Somehow in the process of doing that, there were some changes to the
kernel. Now when I try to boot, I get the message ... update kernel or
disable CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPECATED I went into /boot and edited
config_2.6.26_2-amd64 and changed the y to n for both
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED and CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2, but the error
message remains. I can boot into single user mode and access the system,
but I can't do a complete system boot. It hangs on the CPUFreq part. I
would like to get my laptop back without completely rebuilding the OS.

Any suggestions?



The config file in /boot tells you what options the kernel was configered with, 
it doesn't affect the installed kernel.


You need to recompile your kernel with those options or install an upgraded 
kernel (don't know what debian uses at the moment, been using custom kernels for 
several years now)



Giff





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Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-03 Thread Jochen Schulz
gham...@sv-phoenix.com:
 I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the  
 things that was recommended was to do
 
 apt-get upgrade  apt-get update
 
 Somehow in the process of doing that, there were some changes to the  
 kernel.

Check apt's log files to get a clue what actually happened.

 Now when I try to boot, I get the message ... update kernel or 
 disable CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPECATED

This should be negligible.

 I went into /boot and edited  
 config_2.6.26_2-amd64 and changed the y to n for both  
 CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED and CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2, but the error  
 message remains.

This file describes the configuration that was used to compile the
kernel. It is purely informational and has no effect on the kernel after
compilation.

 I can boot into single user mode and access the system, 
 but I can't do a complete system boot. It hangs on the CPUFreq part. I 
 would like to get my laptop back without completely rebuilding the OS.
 
 Any suggestions?

Yes, please try to be more precise about what happens before the boot
process hangs. Did you try pressing Ctrl-c or Ctrl-d to abort the
currenlty running init script? Did you try to disable the script you
suspect to be the culprit? Do you have entries in your syslog from
failed boot attempts? Did you enable the boot log
(etc/default/bootlogd)?

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Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-03 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:00:14 -0700
gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:

 I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the  
 things that was recommended was to do
 
 apt-get upgrade  apt-get update

FTR, this is backward - first update, then upgrade.

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Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-03 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 07:21:10AM -0700, gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:
 Quoting Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com:
 
 On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM,  gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:
 I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the things

[snip]


Its rather strange you can boot to single mode and not into normal mode.
tells me its not the kernel.

Why not boot to single mode and run each sysvrc script by hand.



 
 Unfortunately in my case, the system hangs and won't finish the boot process.
 
 Giff
 
 
 

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Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-03 Thread Giff Hammar
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 07:43 +1100, Alex Samad wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 07:21:10AM -0700, gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:
  Quoting Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com:
  
  On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM,  gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:
  I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the 
  things
 
 [snip]
 
 
 Its rather strange you can boot to single mode and not into normal mode.
 tells me its not the kernel.
 
 Why not boot to single mode and run each sysvrc script by hand.

I just did that and I'm back up on the machine. For some reason, the
system hangs on S19cpufrequtils. I'll see if I have time to dig into
that over the weekend. Thanks for the pointer!

 
 
 
  
  Unfortunately in my case, the system hangs and won't finish the boot 
  process.
  
  Giff
  
  
  
 


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Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-03 Thread Giff Hammar
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 14:06 -0500, Celejar wrote:
 On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:00:14 -0700
 gham...@sv-phoenix.com wrote:
 
  I was fixing a problem with my root login and Orbit/Gnome. One of the  
  things that was recommended was to do
  
  apt-get upgrade  apt-get update
 
 FTR, this is backward - first update, then upgrade.

I typed that from memory. I ran it the correct way. Thx!

Giff

 
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CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-10-20 Thread mess-mate

Hi,

suddently i get this message on startup:

udev: deprecated sysfs layout; update the kernel or disable 
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED; some udev features will not work correctly

My.config looks like: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y

Must it be commented (#) or setted to n ?

B.R.




Re: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-10-20 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* mess-mate [091020 10:16 +0200]
 Hi,
 
 suddently i get this message on startup:
 
 udev: deprecated sysfs layout; update the kernel or disable 
 CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED; some udev features will not work correctly
 
 My.config looks like: CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y
 
 Must it be commented (#) or setted to n ?

n


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