Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-22 Thread Ric Moore

On 01/19/2015 05:46 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote:

On Saturday 17 January 2015 21:41:38, Ric Moore wrote :

On 01/17/2015 07:29 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote:

My problem is now solved. I unfortunately can't provide a full scientific
analysis of what happened. I list every clue that might help anybody else
facing the same problem.


All you had to do was to mute the HDMI stuff to make it easier on alsa.


How do I mute HDMI to make it easier on alsa?

Isn't alsa reporting every sound device found at the hardware level?


Sure! I just mute stuff I don't use.


More features, more choices. HDMI wasn't even an option until a few
years ago. Welcome to the new Linux! cackles


The audio system is still highly unstable according to my experience.

KDE complains that the audio hardware changes nearly at every boot. It reminds
me that it doesn't complain now that I take care of closing amarok before
shutting down the computer. I don't know if it is related.

The KDE Audio mixer content changes every couple of month too but I haven't
found what is the package whose update is responsible for those changes. At
this time, the Playback devices tab contains one slider for HDMI and one for
Analog stereo. There used to be more sliders for the various sources such as
the microphone. The mixer also used to have a menu to select the channels to
hide or show. It doesn't any more.

As I don't use sound much, a lot usually happen on this computer before I
notice a change or a failure with the sound system. And even more time pass
before I care enough to investigate thoroughly :-)




I betcha you have only one jack, that is supposed to autoswitch between
audio-out and headphone-out. There is a huge difference. You still
haven't replied to where your headphone is plugged in, what type, etc.


I have no headphone nor external speaker so I can't test it. My only sound
output is the laptop internal speaker.


Sorry, my bad. I thought you referenced headphones earlier.
Ric


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-22 Thread Ric Moore

On 01/20/2015 02:07 PM, Robert Latest wrote:



I don't understand the first thing about this. I just copied this file
from somewhere. Note the hw:0,2 part. Remember that I had to use -D
hw:0,0 with aplay to make sound work while pulseaudio was installed? Now
hw:0,2 is the way to go. Search me why.


If you upgraded, then at times you get incremented in device 
names/numbers, like eth0 becomes eth1, since it found eth0 already 
there, so it added eth1. I guess the speckled puppy computer thought it 
was helping you. I bet if you returned to the page you got that script 
from, it will be years old. I just installed Jessie cleanly to a little 
Asus mini laptop and everything worked out of the box, including it's 
buil-in intel sound chip and stereo speakers. No asoundrc file anywhere. 
Something is amiss, most likely up in /etc/udev in a rules file? :) Ric




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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-20 Thread Robert Latest
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:11:24 -1000
Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote:

 Robert Latest wrote:
  With aplay -D hw:0,0 it still works.
 
 You're 99% to the destination.
 
 IIRC, directly addressing the sound device
 as hw:0,0 takes the whole device, will not
 allow software mixing of audio streams from
 other applications.

OK guys,

thanks a lot for all the helpful hints. What I ended up doing is this:

- purge all pulse audio stuff
- created an .asoundrc like this:

pcm.!default {
  type plug
  slave {
pcm hw:0,2
  }
}
ctl.!default {
  type hw
  card 1
}

I don't understand the first thing about this. I just copied this file
from somewhere. Note the hw:0,2 part. Remember that I had to use -D
hw:0,0 with aplay to make sound work while pulseaudio was installed? Now
hw:0,2 is the way to go. Search me why.

Thanks
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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-19 Thread Frédéric Marchal
On Saturday 17 January 2015 21:41:38, Ric Moore wrote :
 On 01/17/2015 07:29 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote:
  My problem is now solved. I unfortunately can't provide a full scientific
  analysis of what happened. I list every clue that might help anybody else
  facing the same problem.
 
 All you had to do was to mute the HDMI stuff to make it easier on alsa.

How do I mute HDMI to make it easier on alsa?

Isn't alsa reporting every sound device found at the hardware level?



 More features, more choices. HDMI wasn't even an option until a few
 years ago. Welcome to the new Linux! cackles

The audio system is still highly unstable according to my experience.

KDE complains that the audio hardware changes nearly at every boot. It reminds 
me that it doesn't complain now that I take care of closing amarok before 
shutting down the computer. I don't know if it is related.

The KDE Audio mixer content changes every couple of month too but I haven't 
found what is the package whose update is responsible for those changes. At 
this time, the Playback devices tab contains one slider for HDMI and one for 
Analog stereo. There used to be more sliders for the various sources such as 
the microphone. The mixer also used to have a menu to select the channels to 
hide or show. It doesn't any more.

As I don't use sound much, a lot usually happen on this computer before I 
notice a change or a failure with the sound system. And even more time pass 
before I care enough to investigate thoroughly :-)



 I betcha you have only one jack, that is supposed to autoswitch between
 audio-out and headphone-out. There is a huge difference. You still
 haven't replied to where your headphone is plugged in, what type, etc.

I have no headphone nor external speaker so I can't test it. My only sound 
output is the laptop internal speaker.

Frederic


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-17 Thread Ric Moore

On 01/17/2015 07:29 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote:


My problem is now solved. I unfortunately can't provide a full scientific
analysis of what happened. I list every clue that might help anybody else
facing the same problem.


All you had to do was to mute the HDMI stuff to make it easier on alsa. 
More features, more choices. HDMI wasn't even an option until a few 
years ago. Welcome to the new Linux! cackles
I betcha you have only one jack, that is supposed to autoswitch between 
audio-out and headphone-out. There is a huge difference. You still 
haven't replied to where your headphone is plugged in, what type, etc.


My USB 6.1 sound device has only one jack per stereo channel out. My 
sound system is amplified. After I plugged them up to each other and 
played a file I thought the cones were going to fly out, it was so loud. 
I had to unplug and plug and unplug again several times before the 
device decided I merely need audio-out.


So, to test, put your headphones on again, raise the volume level as 
high as it will go and see if you don't hear some quiet tinny sound. 
Your sound card didn't correctly sense that you have un-amplified 
headphones and it auto-set itself to audio-out. Or, jam in some USB 
sound card and forget all the pain.



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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-17 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 1/16/15, Mike McGinn mikemcg...@mcginnweb.net wrote:

 On Friday, January 16, 2015 14:23:21 Doug wrote:
 On 01/16/2015 01:24 PM, Robert Latest wrote:

 When I had a new install I found that the mixer levels were all at zero.
 Found
 it after an hour of troubleshooting.


That was me. Raised the level up, and it still didn't work. That was
on debootstrapped base Jessie with xfce4 chaser. I left it for later
and installed a few more favorite things hoping that might
accidentally fix it. Nope, still didn't work.

Then stumbled on xfce4-goodies that would have meant not having to
install a few of those earlier things. Slider was back at [zero] so I
moved it over again and.. *It works!*

What I hoped would happen actually did. Something I installed further
into the initial setup toggled something, tickled just the right file
somewhere. I've looked a couple times at everything that came with
xfce4-goodies (via /var/log/apt/history.log) but haven't seen anything
that popped off the screen yet as the (hero) fixer.

Cindy :)

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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-17 Thread Frédéric Marchal
On Friday 16 January 2015 21:49:37, Ric Moore wrote :
 On 01/16/2015 05:53 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote:
  On Friday 16 January 2015 10:33:23, Lisi Reisz wrote :
  On Friday 16 January 2015 08:41:29 Frédéric Marchal wrote:
  BTW, I have pulseaudio installed in case it matters.
  
  So the advice is to have alsa and pulseaudio?
  
  I haven't investigated that far. I'm just stating a fact.
  
  I don't know what's the purpose of pulseaudio nor what are the benefits
  of having installed it. I don't know if it would break something to
  remove it.
  
  I believe it was installed at some point as part of a routine system
  update and may have been the cause of the sound failure in the first
  place.
 
 Nope, as you can use alsa directly at any time, as with aplay. I think
 your old /etc/asoundrc is a leftover from upgrading from one release to
 the next to the next. I'm running on a fresh install of Jessie and have
 no /etc/asoundrc or ~/.asoundrc files at all. Maybe it's time or a fresh
 install?? To me, the problem of a live upgrade is that all of the old
 /home dotfile cruft hangs on forever. :) Ric

The initial problem, after installing wheezy, was that no sound was produced. 
It was due to alsa using the HDMI device by default. I had to create 
~/.asoundrc to make alsa use the correct PCH device.

That was a fresh install of wheezy on a new HP ProBook 650. There was no 
asoundrc but I needed one to make alsa use the correct device.

I don't remember having seen pulseaudo after installing the system. I only 
noticed it at some point after the sound stopped working. I didn't install it 
on purpose. That's the reason I believe pulseaudio was pulled by a dependency 
during an update and broke my (possibly unusual) sound configuration.

My problem is now solved. I unfortunately can't provide a full scientific 
analysis of what happened. I list every clue that might help anybody else 
facing the same problem.

Frederic


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread August Karlstrom

On 2015-01-15 21:40, Daniel Haude wrote:

Hi all,

this is my umptieth Debian installation I've done on various PCs over
the years, but this time the sound setup really has me stumped. I can't
hear anything unless I use aplay with -D hw:0,0 but setting that in the
configuration file doesn't help. No other sound-outputting program
works. Here's a shell excerpt:

bl@dotcom:~$ aplay test.wav   # can't hear nothing
bl@dotcom:~$ aplay -D hw:0,0 test.wav # this plays sound
bl@dotcom:~$ cat .asoundrc
cat: .asoundrc: No such file or directory
bl@dotcom:~$ cat /etc/asound.conf
pcm.!default {
 type hw
 card 0
 device 0
}


What happens if you remove /etc/asound.conf?

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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Frédéric Marchal
On Thursday 15 January 2015 21:28:30, Robert Latest wrote :
 Hi all,
 
 this is my umptieth Debian installation I've done on various PCs over
 the years, but this time the sound setup really has me stumped. I can't
 hear anything unless I use aplay with -D hw:0,0 but setting that in the
 configuration file doesn't help. No other sound-outputting program
 works. Here's a shell excerpt:
 
 bl@dotcom:~$ aplay test.wav   # can't hear nothing
 bl@dotcom:~$ aplay -D hw:0,0 test.wav # this plays sound
 bl@dotcom:~$ cat .asoundrc
 cat: .asoundrc: No such file or directory
 bl@dotcom:~$ cat /etc/asound.conf
 pcm.!default {
 type hw
 card 0
 device 0
 }
 bl@dotcom:~$ aplay -l
  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD1984 Analog [AD1984 Analog]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: AD1984 Alt Analog [AD1984 Alt
 Analog]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 bl@dotcom:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
   HDA Intel at 0xfe9dc000 irq 45
 bl@dotcom:~$

Sound has been missing on my wheezy for some time until your mail prompted me 
to investigate it.

Running aplay test.wav produces no sound.

The output of aplay -l is:

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: HDMI_1 [HDA Intel HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI_1 [HDA Intel HDMI], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: HDMI_1 [HDA Intel HDMI], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: 92HD91BXX Analog [92HD91BXX Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

Running aplay -D hw:1,0 test.wav reports an error and produces no sound:

Playing WAVE 'test.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 11025 Hz, Mono
aplay: set_params:1087: Channels count non available

But sound started to work fine after I edited $HOME/.asoundrc like this:

pcm.!default {
  type plug
  slave {
pcm hw:1,0
  }
}
ctl.!default {
  type hw
  card 1
} 

The symptoms are not the same as yours. aplay doesn't play sound when I select 
the PCM device on the command line. But, with audacity, if I explicitly select 
ALSA as output and device hw:1,0, sound comes out. So, I may have another 
problem that prevents aplay from running when the PCM device is specified and 
the above solution may still help you.

BTW, I have pulseaudio installed in case it matters.

Frederic


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 16 January 2015 08:41:29 Frédéric Marchal wrote:
 On Thursday 15 January 2015 21:28:30, Robert Latest wrote :
  Hi all,
 
  this is my umptieth Debian installation I've done on various PCs over
  the years, but this time the sound setup really has me stumped. I can't
  hear anything unless I use aplay with -D hw:0,0 but setting that in the
  configuration file doesn't help. No other sound-outputting program
  works. Here's a shell excerpt:
 
  bl@dotcom:~$ aplay test.wav   # can't hear nothing
  bl@dotcom:~$ aplay -D hw:0,0 test.wav # this plays sound
  bl@dotcom:~$ cat .asoundrc
  cat: .asoundrc: No such file or directory
  bl@dotcom:~$ cat /etc/asound.conf
  pcm.!default {
  type hw
  card 0
  device 0
  }
  bl@dotcom:~$ aplay -l
   List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD1984 Analog [AD1984 Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: AD1984 Alt Analog [AD1984 Alt
  Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  bl@dotcom:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
   0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
HDA Intel at 0xfe9dc000 irq 45
  bl@dotcom:~$

 Sound has been missing on my wheezy for some time until your mail prompted
 me to investigate it.

 Running aplay test.wav produces no sound.

 The output of aplay -l is:

  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
 card 0: HDMI_1 [HDA Intel HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 card 0: HDMI_1 [HDA Intel HDMI], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 card 0: HDMI_1 [HDA Intel HDMI], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: 92HD91BXX Analog [92HD91BXX Analog]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

 Running aplay -D hw:1,0 test.wav reports an error and produces no sound:

 Playing WAVE 'test.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 11025 Hz, Mono
 aplay: set_params:1087: Channels count non available

 But sound started to work fine after I edited $HOME/.asoundrc like this:

 pcm.!default {
   type plug
   slave {
 pcm hw:1,0
   }
 }
 ctl.!default {
   type hw
   card 1
 }

 The symptoms are not the same as yours. aplay doesn't play sound when I
 select the PCM device on the command line. But, with audacity, if I
 explicitly select ALSA as output and device hw:1,0, sound comes out. So, I
 may have another problem that prevents aplay from running when the PCM
 device is specified and the above solution may still help you.

 BTW, I have pulseaudio installed in case it matters.

So the advice is to have alsa and pulseaudio?

Lisi


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Frédéric Marchal
On Friday 16 January 2015 10:33:23, Lisi Reisz wrote :
 On Friday 16 January 2015 08:41:29 Frédéric Marchal wrote:
  But sound started to work fine after I edited $HOME/.asoundrc like this:
  
  pcm.!default {
type plug
slave {
  pcm hw:1,0
}
  }
  ctl.!default {
type hw
card 1
  }
  
  The symptoms are not the same as yours. aplay doesn't play sound when I
  select the PCM device on the command line. But, with audacity, if I
  explicitly select ALSA as output and device hw:1,0, sound comes out. So,
  I may have another problem that prevents aplay from running when the PCM
  device is specified and the above solution may still help you.
  
  BTW, I have pulseaudio installed in case it matters.
 
 So the advice is to have alsa and pulseaudio?

I haven't investigated that far. I'm just stating a fact.

I don't know what's the purpose of pulseaudio nor what are the benefits of 
having installed it. I don't know if it would break something to remove it.

I believe it was installed at some point as part of a routine system update 
and may have been the cause of the sound failure in the first place.

Frederic


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Robert Latest
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:43:23 -0500
Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 01/15/2015 03:54 PM, Hans wrote:
  First questions:
 
  Are you running pulseaudio or alsa?

I don't know. I seem to have both on my system. I don't know what the
difference is, or if one is running on top of the other, or if they are
fighting over my soundcard. How would an application that wants to play
sound figure out which system to use?

 
  Did you try alsamixer?

When I just run alsamixer, I see one big vertical adjustment. When I
run alsamixer -c 0 I see a lot of controls (Master, Headphone, PCM...).
Still I can't hear anything unless running aplay -D hw:0,0.

  Often it is possible, to choose different hardware in the GUI. Did
  you try other ones, too?

F6 lets me select different cards in alsamixer, but it doesn't change
anything if I run anything but aplay -D hw:0,0 in another window.

 
 He's got an asoundrc file in /etc. I thought that use was deprecated 
 some years ago.

I put it there hoping to make the -D hw:0,0 thingy the default for
all sound-playing software.

 Maybe if the OP mv;d that file to another name,
 rebooted and ran alsamixer first, then add pavucontrol along with
 pulse, he might have a better experience, IMHO.

I'll try that (have to install first). If it works, can I then purge all
ALSA-related stuff from my system? Or could I also remove all
pulse-related stuff and keep ALSA?

 I happen to love
 using pulse, although years ago I was spitting mad at it. Works a
 charm for me now, especially when using different sound
 inputs/outputs on the fly. Ric

I'm not that picky. All I want is hear sound from mplayer or webpages
with video content.

Thanks,
robert


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Doug

On 01/16/2015 01:24 PM, Robert Latest wrote:


pulse, he might have a better experience, IMHO.


I'll try that (have to install first). If it works, can I then purge all
ALSA-related stuff from my system? Or could I also remove all
pulse-related stuff and keep ALSA?


I happen to love
using pulse, although years ago I was spitting mad at it. Works a
charm for me now, especially when using different sound
inputs/outputs on the fly. Ric


I'm not that picky. All I want is hear sound from mplayer or webpages
with video content.

Thanks,
robert



I won't swear to it, but I think PA runs on top of Alsa, so don't remove it.
Even if that is not the case, they are compatible--i.e., Alsa will not
interfere with PA.

For years I swore at PA and always removed it, but in the last year or so,
it is working, and has some features you can't get anywhere else, like being
able to output sound from two sound cards at once, so as to send sound along
with video to your TV, while still hearing it locally at your computer.

If all else fails, you can remove pulse and keep Alsa, but I wouldn't try it
the other way round.

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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Mike McGinn

On Friday, January 16, 2015 14:23:21 Doug wrote:
 On 01/16/2015 01:24 PM, Robert Latest wrote:

When I had a new install I found that the mixer levels were all at zero. Found 
it after an hour of troubleshooting.


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Robert Latest
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:43:23 -0500
Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 01/15/2015 03:54 PM, Hans wrote:
  First questions:
 
  Are you running pulseaudio or alsa?
 
  Did you try alsamixer?
 
  Often it is possible, to choose different hardware in the GUI. Did
  you try other ones, too?
 
  Best
 
 He's got an asoundrc file in /etc. I thought that use was deprecated 
 some years ago. Maybe if the OP mv;d that file to another name,
 rebooted and ran alsamixer first, then add pavucontrol along with
 pulse, he might have a better experience, IMHO.

Hi Ric,

it's getting weirder: I installed pavucontrol, started it, and started
mplayer in some other window. No sound on my headphones, but the
little VU bar flashing. Unplugged headphones, sound came from the built
in speaker. Plugged headphones back in, pavucontrol sees it and changes
from unplugged tp plugged in, still no sound on headphones.

With aplay -D hw:0,0 it still works.

OK, now trying to remove all pulse-related stuff.

Thanks
robert


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Ric Moore

On 01/16/2015 03:41 AM, Frédéric Marchal wrote:


BTW, I have pulseaudio installed in case it matters.

Frederic


Once you start with the edits, pulse most likely will not work since you 
defeated it's purpose to define things after alsa is doing it's job. I 
remember the bad old days when you had to do that and even then it 
didn't work half the time. Ric



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Fwd: Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Ric Moore

I hit the wrong send to: button.


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Subject: Re: Can't get sound to work
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:29:50 -0500
From: Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com
To: Robert Latest boblat...@gmail.com

On 01/16/2015 01:24 PM, Robert Latest wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:43:23 -0500
Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:



I happen to love
using pulse, although years ago I was spitting mad at it. Works a
charm for me now, especially when using different sound
inputs/outputs on the fly. Ric


I'm not that picky. All I want is hear sound from mplayer or webpages
with video content.



In a nut shell, alsa is the basement for sound. Pulse sits on top and
directs input/output to multiple sound decices. It seems you have
several. I've got a sound card plugged in, so I disabled the onboard
sound card, that won't work at all, in the bios. Now alsa has one less
headache to deal with. Then install pauvucontrol. That is the graphical
interface to pulse. Running that I can define my outputs, like USB
headphonne + mono-mike, 6.1 sound card. Now I can select playback and
direct the sound between my suround speakers and stereo headphones, ON
THE FLY!!

Again, if alsa is not happy, pulse will not work at all either. If you
have a sound card in your junk box, install that to the motherboard and
disable the onboard intel setup in the bios. My onboard audio refused to
work, and that fixed it nicely. Or, just get a cheap usb audio device,
with all the bells and whistles, like 7.1 sound. I love blasting the
neighborhood with my setup. When I need quiet, I just use pavucontrol to
direct the output to the usb headphones. That beats the dickens out of
messing with ancient alsa scripts and edits.

Works For Me!tm Ric


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Ric Moore

On 01/16/2015 04:33 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
snippage


The symptoms are not the same as yours. aplay doesn't play sound when I
select the PCM device on the command line. But, with audacity, if I
explicitly select ALSA as output and device hw:1,0, sound comes out. So, I
may have another problem that prevents aplay from running when the PCM
device is specified and the above solution may still help you.

BTW, I have pulseaudio installed in case it matters.


So the advice is to have alsa and pulseaudio?


You have to have alsa. That is the sound system. Pulse sits on top of it 
to direct your sound sources where you want them to be, as in multiple 
sound devices, speakers and microphones. You can do this on the fly, as 
in switching between 7.1 to USB head phones for quiet listening. :) Ric



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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread berenger . morel

Le 16.01.2015 19:24, Robert Latest a écrit :

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:43:23 -0500
Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:


On 01/15/2015 03:54 PM, Hans wrote:
 First questions:

 Are you running pulseaudio or alsa?


I don't know. I seem to have both on my system. I don't know what the
difference is, or if one is running on top of the other, or if they 
are
fighting over my soundcard. How would an application that wants to 
play

sound figure out which system to use?


There are several people more knowledgeable than me around here, but, 
AFAIK, alsa is the lowest level sound manager.
If I am not wrong, pulse audio is built on it. Note that I never tried 
PA: alsa always worked just fine for me, so why should I try it?

I understand the linux Audio stack like this:

Alsa == OSS
  ^
  |
  ^
/  \
PA  J

Alsa is better (why? No idea, just what people says...) than OSS, and 
then you have 2 frameworks which works over Alsa. PulseAudio (PA, which 
seems to be POSIX and windows compatible), and Jack (J, which seems to 
be used by professional applications, for real-time stuff and other.


If you simply want sound from flash-player, iceweasel and mplayer... 
well, removing PA may help you, and it will remove something you do not 
necessarily need. And, in my opinion, less code running on my computer 
means less surprises (on my computer), so it's the way I choose. But, I 
am a minimalist lover (well, at least in computing... for beers per 
example I have different tastes ;) ).


Note that I have no opinion about the quality of pulse audio and jack. 
Plus, in some cases, I had problems with microphones with Alsa. Maybe in 
those situations PA or jack would have helped me. Never tried, it was 
not important enough for me.



Maybe if the OP mv;d that file to another name,
rebooted and ran alsamixer first, then add pavucontrol along with
pulse, he might have a better experience, IMHO.


I'll try that (have to install first). If it works, can I then purge 
all

ALSA-related stuff from my system? Or could I also remove all
pulse-related stuff and keep ALSA?


If you purge alsa-related stuff, you will end with no sound at all.
Alsa means Advanced Linux Sound Architecture. It seems to be a driver 
replacement for OSS.
In short, it would be like removing your nouveau/nvidia/intel/whatever 
driver and trying to run Xorg or weston... Xorg and weston would be PA 
and Jack, the driver would be alsa. That's what I understand, at least.



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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Ric Moore

On 01/16/2015 02:56 PM, Robert Latest wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:43:23 -0500
Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:


On 01/15/2015 03:54 PM, Hans wrote:

First questions:

Are you running pulseaudio or alsa?

Did you try alsamixer?

Often it is possible, to choose different hardware in the GUI. Did
you try other ones, too?

Best


He's got an asoundrc file in /etc. I thought that use was deprecated
some years ago. Maybe if the OP mv;d that file to another name,
rebooted and ran alsamixer first, then add pavucontrol along with
pulse, he might have a better experience, IMHO.


Hi Ric,

it's getting weirder: I installed pavucontrol, started it, and started
mplayer in some other window. No sound on my headphones, but the
little VU bar flashing. Unplugged headphones, sound came from the built
in speaker. Plugged headphones back in, pavucontrol sees it and changes
from unplugged tp plugged in, still no sound on headphones.

With aplay -D hw:0,0 it still works.

OK, now trying to remove all pulse-related stuff.


You're shooting yourself in the foot. IF alsa won't work, pulse will not 
either. IF you used pavucontrol, set up your sound sources, then 
selected playback while the file was playing, you should have seen the 
volume bar twitching. If it was, did you check to see if the volume was 
scrolled up to 100%, unmuted, and that the headphone was selected??


Or, is this some headphone plugged into the soundcard audio-out jack? 
Maybe you're plugged into audio-out (which is non-amplified) instead of 
the headphone jack, which is? OR if there is just one output jack, which 
relies on some sort of hardware magic to determine if it should act like 
audio-out/headphone out, there in lies the problem. PLugging in the 
headphone, removing it and pugging it in, multiple times might get it to 
switch correctly. They don't always work right. Get a cheap set of USB 
headphones and suffer no more. Leave the sound card to drive speakers, 
which worked, as you mention. That must be the problem as I had that 
happen trying to plug in some earbuds. The audio-out expects the plugged 
in device to have it's own amplifier. Headphone out uses the sound card 
amplifier to drive a non-amplified device, like old headphones. No sound 
indicates you're in the wrong jack or it fails to auto-select/switch 
between the two states if there is only one out jack. I bet this is the 
problem. Refer to your manual if you have it. Ric





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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Ric Moore

On 01/16/2015 03:51 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:

Le 16.01.2015 19:24, Robert Latest a écrit :

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:43:23 -0500
Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:


On 01/15/2015 03:54 PM, Hans wrote:
 First questions:

 Are you running pulseaudio or alsa?


I don't know. I seem to have both on my system. I don't know what the
difference is, or if one is running on top of the other, or if they are
fighting over my soundcard. How would an application that wants to play
sound figure out which system to use?


There are several people more knowledgeable than me around here, but,
AFAIK, alsa is the lowest level sound manager.
If I am not wrong, pulse audio is built on it. Note that I never tried
PA: alsa always worked just fine for me, so why should I try it?
I understand the linux Audio stack like this:

Alsa == OSS
   ^
   |
   ^
/  \
PA  J

Alsa is better (why? No idea, just what people says...) than OSS, and
then you have 2 frameworks which works over Alsa. PulseAudio (PA, which
seems to be POSIX and windows compatible), and Jack (J, which seems to
be used by professional applications, for real-time stuff and other.

If you simply want sound from flash-player, iceweasel and mplayer...
well, removing PA may help you, and it will remove something you do not
necessarily need. And, in my opinion, less code running on my computer
means less surprises (on my computer), so it's the way I choose. But, I
am a minimalist lover (well, at least in computing... for beers per
example I have different tastes ;) ).

Note that I have no opinion about the quality of pulse audio and jack.
Plus, in some cases, I had problems with microphones with Alsa. Maybe in
those situations PA or jack would have helped me. Never tried, it was
not important enough for me.


Maybe if the OP mv;d that file to another name,
rebooted and ran alsamixer first, then add pavucontrol along with
pulse, he might have a better experience, IMHO.


I'll try that (have to install first). If it works, can I then purge all
ALSA-related stuff from my system? Or could I also remove all
pulse-related stuff and keep ALSA?


If you purge alsa-related stuff, you will end with no sound at all.
Alsa means Advanced Linux Sound Architecture. It seems to be a driver
replacement for OSS.
In short, it would be like removing your nouveau/nvidia/intel/whatever
driver and trying to run Xorg or weston... Xorg and weston would be PA
and Jack, the driver would be alsa. That's what I understand, at least.


Jack confuses the heck out of me, and I think it relies on a realtime 
kernel. I leave that to the true audiophiles who need that degree of 
response for mostly sound only applications. You are right, alsa is a 
must have installed. Pulse will only work with a working alsa setup.




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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Joel Roth
Robert Latest wrote:
 With aplay -D hw:0,0 it still works.

You're 99% to the destination.

IIRC, directly addressing the sound device
as hw:0,0 takes the whole device, will not
allow software mixing of audio streams from
other applications.

It may be worth trying the 

aplay -D default testfile.wav 
aplay -D default testfile.wav

And you should hear two streams playing together.

At least, it works on my system without asoundrc.

Regards,

Joel
 
 OK, now trying to remove all pulse-related stuff.
 
 Thanks
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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:11:24 -1000 Joel Roth sent:

 Robert Latest wrote:
  With aplay -D hw:0,0 it still works.  
 
 You're 99% to the destination.
 
 IIRC, directly addressing the sound device
 as hw:0,0 takes the whole device, will not
 allow software mixing of audio streams from
 other applications.
 
 It may be worth trying the 
 
 aplay -D default testfile.wav 
 aplay -D default testfile.wav
 
 And you should hear two streams playing together.
 
 At least, it works on my system without asoundrc.
 
 Regards,
 
 Joel

Thanks Joel,

Using: aplay -D default testfile.wav 

Without pulse audio installed, I get sound.

Using: aplay -D default testfile.wav 

With pulseaudio, there is no sound but pavucontrol shows that there is
some sound being relayed to the earphones?

So sound is still a wraith in Debian. [laughing]

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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 01:27:31PM +1100, Charlie wrote:
 On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:11:24 -1000 Joel Roth sent:
 
  Robert Latest wrote:
   With aplay -D hw:0,0 it still works.  
  
  You're 99% to the destination.
  
  IIRC, directly addressing the sound device
  as hw:0,0 takes the whole device, will not
  allow software mixing of audio streams from
  other applications.
  
  It may be worth trying the 
  
  aplay -D default testfile.wav 
  aplay -D default testfile.wav
  
  And you should hear two streams playing together.
  
  At least, it works on my system without asoundrc.
  
  Regards,
  
  Joel
 
 Thanks Joel,
 
 Using: aplay -D default testfile.wav 
 
 Without pulse audio installed, I get sound.

Yay.
 
 Using: aplay -D default testfile.wav 
 
 With pulseaudio, there is no sound but pavucontrol shows that there is
 some sound being relayed to the earphones?

 So sound is still a wraith in Debian. [laughing]

The ALSA project has a Linux kernel driver for your
soundcard.  Many programs, libraries, applications, plugins,
frameworks and APIs target ALSA.[1]  If you're involved in
music or audio production and need to combine audio
applications, there is JACK.

So, have a coffee and doughnut, or beer and pizza!

Now maybe you want pulse audio. Why? Because maybe some app
(Skype?) or Desktop Environment demands it.

Okay, that's a lot of bloat. But you're choosing to pull
that bloat into your software stack. Or maybe it is just
your DE packager's choice.

In any case, you can probably debug it given enough
attention. Any list responsive to pulse audio issues should
be a help. 

For many audio issues, you can go to the Linux Audio Users
mailing list, but even the geniuses and gurus who frequent
that list are mostly ignorant of the dark ways of PA. 

A few have found and published ways to use both JACK and
PA.[2]

For now, you do have have a working audio system sitting
atop your Intel soundcard(s).

cheers,

Joel


1. http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/start
2. http://jackaudio.org/faq/pulseaudio_and_jack.html

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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 19:56:31 -1000 Joel Roth sent:

 For now, you do have have a working audio system sitting
 atop your Intel soundcard(s).

Yes thank you.

I have purged pulseaudio again. Never having used it found Alsa was
always fine till recently when alsa didn't do it for me when using VLC.
But then pulseaudio didn't either.

However alsaplayer in the GUI only plays half the song and chokes.

Aplay plays the songs fine in full, no glitch when invoked on the
command line.

VLC doesn't produce any sound. But then I can live without it.
Especially since I have discovered how to add several songs to aplay on
the commandline, takes a bit more typing the way I do it, but then
that's also fine.

It's never so bad if you know how to do something, it's just a pain
when you don't and you need to scrounge through all manner of websites
to discover how it might work, often wasted because you've looked in
the wrong place and it doesn't.

I recall reading a Linux user/developer once writing that he was almost
sick of Linux because whenever you tried to do something you had to
learn how to do it. That in Windows it just worked.

It was interesting, and I know that when I want to do something and
have to troll the net to find a way to do it because it needed a tweak,
it could be frustrating. But I always blamed myself because I made the
choice to use Debian testing instead of stable where I assume
everything just works?

Anyway thank you,
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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread Joel Roth
Charlie wrote:
 On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 19:56:31 -1000 Joel Roth sent:
 
  For now, you do have have a working audio system sitting
  atop your Intel soundcard(s).
 
 Yes thank you.
 
 I have purged pulseaudio again. Never having used it found Alsa was
 always fine till recently when alsa didn't do it for me when using VLC.
 But then pulseaudio didn't either.
 
 However alsaplayer in the GUI only plays half the song and chokes.
 
 Aplay plays the songs fine in full, no glitch when invoked on the
 command line.
 
 VLC doesn't produce any sound. But then I can live without it.
 Especially since I have discovered how to add several songs to aplay on
 the commandline, takes a bit more typing the way I do it, but then
 that's also fine.

try vlc with the 
--alsa-audio-device default
--alsa-audio-device hw:0,0

It looks like can specify the channel count 
(although using '6' to get stereo seems weird.)
From vlc --longhelp:

  --alsa-audio-channels {1 (Mono), 6 (Stereo), 102
(Surround 4.0), 4198 (Surround 4.1), 103 (Surround 5.0),
4199 (Surround 5.1), 4967 (Surround 7.1)}

cheers,

 
 It's never so bad if you know how to do something, it's just a pain
 when you don't and you need to scrounge through all manner of websites
 to discover how it might work, often wasted because you've looked in
 the wrong place and it doesn't.

Man pages and mailing lists are helpful. There is no way to 
configure your system without some knowledge, or willingness
to get experience.

 I recall reading a Linux user/developer once writing that he was almost
 sick of Linux because whenever you tried to do something you had to
 learn how to do it. That in Windows it just worked.

I did a Windows 7 system restore for a friend's notebook
that took forever. Many times more difficult than what
I can do with unix tools like rsync.
 
 It was interesting, and I know that when I want to do something and
 have to troll the net to find a way to do it because it needed a tweak,
 it could be frustrating. But I always blamed myself because I made the
 choice to use Debian testing instead of stable where I assume
 everything just works?

No, you will always have issues configuring your system to
suit your hardware, networking environment and personal
needs. You cannot escape some overhead in administering
a system. 

cheers,

joel
 
 Anyway thank you,
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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-15 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 21:21:55 +0100 Daniel Haude sent:

 Hi all, 
 
 this is my umptieth Debian installation I've done on various PCs over
 the years, but this time the sound setup really has me stumped. I
 can't hear anything unless I use aplay with -D hw:0,0 but setting
 that in the configuration file doesn't help. No other
 sound-outputting program works. Here's a shell excerpt: 
 
 bl@dotcom:~$ aplay test.wav   # can't hear nothing
 bl@dotcom:~$ aplay -D hw:0,0 test.wav # this plays sound
 bl@dotcom:~$ cat .asoundrc
 cat: .asoundrc: No such file or directory
 bl@dotcom:~$ cat /etc/asound.conf 
 pcm.!default {
 type hw
 card 0
 device 0
 }
 bl@dotcom:~$ aplay -l
  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD1984 Analog [AD1984 Analog]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: AD1984 Alt Analog [AD1984 Alt
 Analog]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 bl@dotcom:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards 
  0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
   HDA Intel at 0xfe9dc000 irq 45
 bl@dotcom:~$ 

Much the same here. Sound has always been a bit of a mystery in Debian
for me ever since Sarge.

This is a Jessie system.

The time I got it working, I think in Squeeze? Florian Kulzer had me
debugging things with the commands below and managed to see what the
problem was.

Interestingly I had sound working with alsa before one of the upgrades
recently. But I don't use sound all that often, so have no idea when it
was lost.Installed and tried with pulseaudio, It said that the devices
were locked, so have purged that again now.

I have not been able to see from the commands results of the commands
that Florian supplied how I can get my sound working.

Here are my results and those commands, you might compare and if you
have much the same results we will know we both have the same problem:

$ lspci

00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 7310]
00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler
HDMI Audio

$ cat /dev/sndstat
No such file or directory

~$ aplay -l

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC269VB Analog
[ALC269VB Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0



$ lsmod | grep snd

snd_hda_codec_realtek63031  1 
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45118  1 
snd_hda_codec_generic63107  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel  26327  5 
snd_hda_controller 26727  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 104463  5 
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,
snd_hda_controller
snd_hwdep  13148  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm88662  4 
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_timer  26614  1 snd_pcm
snd65244  18 
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
soundcore  13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec

$ cat /proc/asound/cards

 0 [Generic]: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
  HD-Audio Generic at 0xf0444000 irq 46
 1 [Generic_1  ]: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
  HD-Audio Generic at 0xf044 irq 47

$ udevadm trigger --verbose --subsystem-match=sound

/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:01.1/sound/card0
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:01.1/sound/card0/hdaudioC0D0
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:01.1/sound/card0/hdaudioC0D0/hwC0D0
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:01.1/sound/card0/hdaudioC0D0/pcmC0D3p
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:01.1/sound/card0/controlC0
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/sound/card1
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/sound/card1/hdaudioC1D0
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/sound/card1/hdaudioC1D0/hwC1D0
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/sound/card1/hdaudioC1D0/pcmC1D0c
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/sound/card1/hdaudioC1D0/pcmC1D0p
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/sound/card1/controlC1
/sys/devices/virtual/sound/timer

$ speaker-test -t sine -c 2

No sound is heard.

$ amixer

Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
  Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Digital',0
  Capabilities: cvolume
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 120
  Front Left: Capture 60 [50%] [0.00dB]
  Front Right: Capture 60 [50%] [0.00dB]

Alsamixergui only shows 3 sliders:

PCM - right to the top
IEC958 - empty
Digital - half way up

All locks open.

$ lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group 

Can't get sound to work

2015-01-15 Thread Robert Latest
Hi all, 

this is my umptieth Debian installation I've done on various PCs over
the years, but this time the sound setup really has me stumped. I can't
hear anything unless I use aplay with -D hw:0,0 but setting that in the
configuration file doesn't help. No other sound-outputting program
works. Here's a shell excerpt: 

bl@dotcom:~$ aplay test.wav   # can't hear nothing
bl@dotcom:~$ aplay -D hw:0,0 test.wav # this plays sound
bl@dotcom:~$ cat .asoundrc
cat: .asoundrc: No such file or directory
bl@dotcom:~$ cat /etc/asound.conf 
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 0
device 0
}
bl@dotcom:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD1984 Analog [AD1984 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: AD1984 Alt Analog [AD1984 Alt
Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
bl@dotcom:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards 
 0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
  HDA Intel at 0xfe9dc000 irq 45
bl@dotcom:~$ 


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-15 Thread Hans
First questions:

Are you running pulseaudio or alsa?

Did you try alsamixer?
 
Often it is possible, to choose different hardware in the GUI. Did you try 
other ones, too?

Best 

Hans


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Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-15 Thread Ric Moore

On 01/15/2015 03:54 PM, Hans wrote:

First questions:

Are you running pulseaudio or alsa?

Did you try alsamixer?

Often it is possible, to choose different hardware in the GUI. Did you try
other ones, too?

Best


He's got an asoundrc file in /etc. I thought that use was deprecated 
some years ago. Maybe if the OP mv;d that file to another name, rebooted 
and ran alsamixer first, then add pavucontrol along with pulse, he might 
have a better experience, IMHO. I happen to love using pulse, although 
years ago I was spitting mad at it. Works a charm for me now, especially 
when using different sound inputs/outputs on the fly. Ric




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Can't get sound to work

2015-01-15 Thread Daniel Haude
Hi all, 

this is my umptieth Debian installation I've done on various PCs over
the years, but this time the sound setup really has me stumped. I can't
hear anything unless I use aplay with -D hw:0,0 but setting that in the
configuration file doesn't help. No other sound-outputting program
works. Here's a shell excerpt: 

bl@dotcom:~$ aplay test.wav   # can't hear nothing
bl@dotcom:~$ aplay -D hw:0,0 test.wav # this plays sound
bl@dotcom:~$ cat .asoundrc
cat: .asoundrc: No such file or directory
bl@dotcom:~$ cat /etc/asound.conf 
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 0
device 0
}
bl@dotcom:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD1984 Analog [AD1984 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: AD1984 Alt Analog [AD1984 Alt
Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
bl@dotcom:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards 
 0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
  HDA Intel at 0xfe9dc000 irq 45
bl@dotcom:~$ 


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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

2012-03-26 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 20:04:39 +0200, Bernard wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:

 What's the output of arecord -l? I ask becasue it can be that you
 have now two microphones (one coming from the sound card and other from
 the webcam) and need to define what's the default or which to use.

(...)

 I have just tested a bit more with alsamixer, this time using my webcam
 and GUVCwiewer. If I boost the alsamixer settings to maximum (red
 level), then I get SOME sound in my videos, which plays back using, not
 vlc, but 'Totem'... But then the played back sound si very week and even
 cracky (distorded with kinds of cracks)... and absolutely no sound at
 all if the alsamixer parameters are not to the maximum.
 
 As for Cheese, I just tested something else as just mentioned. It is
 GUVCwiewer. It looks a lot better... but still no sound or very bad and
 weak one as stated above.

Okay, so basically what we have here is that the sound is very, very low 
unless you put it to the top level and still the image capturing has some 
hicups... let me Google a bit.

I found this bug report for Ubuntu:

Logitech camera microphone does not work / makes chipmunk sound 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/843431

At comment #37 there seems to be a pacth for some cameras and C910 is 
listed there. Also note that as per the other user's comments, the camera 
looks like it worked fine in kernel 2.6.38, not sure if it's an option 
(or even worth for it) for you to test with that kernel or with a newer 
one :-?

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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

2012-03-25 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:37:45 +0100, Bernard wrote:

 I just bought the above mentioned web camera, and, if I record a video
 using Cheese, the sound is not there when I try displaying the record
 using 'vlc'. I get this:
 
 main subpicture error : blending YUVA to I444 failed
   ^^

Mmm, the above error looks more close to be related with image than 
sound :-?

 this line repeated a number of times.
 
 The image is there though, but no sound

Have you tried your microphone from Gnome sound recorder or another 
application (arecord)? How about running alsamixer (or your DE sound 
applet) to be sure the capture/input/mic source control is at a high 
level and not muted/lowered?

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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

2012-03-25 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com

On 24/03/2012 22:37, Bernard wrote:

Hi to Everyone !

I just bought the above mentioned web camera, and, if I record a video
using Cheese, the sound is not there when I try displaying the record
using 'vlc'. I get this:

main subpicture error : blending YUVA to I444 failed

this line repeated a number of times.

The image is there though, but no sound

Thanks in advance for your input


P.S. : Debian Squeeze on that system.




This webcam (046d:0821) works in vlc in Wheezy/Sid, sound device is 
hw0,1 here but this might be different on your system. I use alsa+phonon 
(KDE), so pulse isn't getting in the way for me, maybe it is for you ?
Squeeze could be somehow too old for this camera (alsa's snd_usb_audio 
module), but I doubt it.



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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

2012-03-25 Thread Bernard

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:37:45 +0100, Bernard wrote:

  

I just bought the above mentioned web camera, and, if I record a video
using Cheese, the sound is not there when I try displaying the record
using 'vlc'. I get this:

main subpicture error : blending YUVA to I444 failed


   ^^

Mmm, the above error looks more close to be related with image than 
sound :-?


  
It may be the case, since the image is not good either. It appears the 
same as I could see it while recording, that is, in chunks... I mean, as 
if the camera had been working on and off

this line repeated a number of times.

The image is there though, but no sound



Have you tried your microphone from Gnome sound recorder or another 
application (arecord)? How about running alsamixer (or your DE sound 
applet) to be sure the capture/input/mic source control is at a high 
level and not muted/lowered?
  


I tried both, recording is not muted, and I can play wav files by

$ play myfile.wav

But, maybe Cheese is not a good choice for video recording with a 
webcam such as this ?  What else would you recommend ?  My purpose with 
this webcam is, for now, to use is as a video recorder, not for video 
chat as yet.



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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

2012-03-25 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:37:12 +0200, Bernard wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:

 main subpicture error : blending YUVA to I444 failed
 
^^

 Mmm, the above error looks more close to be related with image than
 sound :-?


 It may be the case, since the image is not good either. It appears the
 same as I could see it while recording, that is, in chunks... I mean, as
 if the camera had been working on and off

Mmm, maybe is that Cheese is not well suited to get the best of HD cams, 
I mean, you may need more control over the video settings.

 Have you tried your microphone from Gnome sound recorder or another
 application (arecord)? How about running alsamixer (or your DE sound
 applet) to be sure the capture/input/mic source control is at a high
 level and not muted/lowered?
   
   
 I tried both, recording is not muted, and I can play wav files by
 
 $ play myfile.wav

What's the output of arecord -l? I ask becasue it can be that you have 
now two microphones (one coming from the sound card and other from the 
webcam) and need to define what's the default or which to use.
 
 But, maybe Cheese is not a good choice for video recording with a
 webcam such as this ?  What else would you recommend ?  My purpose with
 this webcam is, for now, to use is as a video recorder, not for video
 chat as yet.

Well, yup, I'd say Cheese is not aimed for video recording but online 
chatting. You can try with video recording/capturing programs, for 
instance VLC, GUVCviewer, ffmpeg, mplayer or mencoder although there are 
more advanced/specialized tools for the matter but maybe they're too big 
for your purposes.

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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

2012-03-25 Thread Bernard

Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:37:12 +0200, Bernard wrote:

  

Camaleón wrote:



  

main subpicture error : blending YUVA to I444 failed



   ^^

Mmm, the above error looks more close to be related with image than
sound :-?


  

It may be the case, since the image is not good either. It appears the
same as I could see it while recording, that is, in chunks... I mean, as
if the camera had been working on and off



Mmm, maybe is that Cheese is not well suited to get the best of HD cams, 
I mean, you may need more control over the video settings.


  

Have you tried your microphone from Gnome sound recorder or another
application (arecord)? How about running alsamixer (or your DE sound
applet) to be sure the capture/input/mic source control is at a high
level and not muted/lowered?
  
  
  

I tried both, recording is not muted, and I can play wav files by

$ play myfile.wav



What's the output of arecord -l? I ask becasue it can be that you have 
now two microphones (one coming from the sound card and other from the 
webcam) and need to define what's the default or which to use.
  


arecord -l says:

List of Capture Hardware devices

Card0: Intel [HDA Intel] device 0:
   ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevices #0: subdevice #0

Card1 : U0x46d:0x821 [USB Device 0x46d:0x821], device 0: USB
   audio [USB Audio]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


I have tried to see with alsamixer if something looked weird: recording 
levels as well as play levels on both cards seem OK (Green + while in 
the columns, just before the red zones).


Now, what happens if I try just recording voice, with and without the 
webcam connected ?  In both cases, it records ... next to nothing, but 
not quite nothing though. I just type:


$ rec testfile.wav

and I speak a few words... then CTRL C to quit, and:

$ play testfile.wav

I can hear next to nothing... but if I boost alsamixer cursors to the 
maximum (either with alsamixer in an xterm or using the icons on the 
gnome desk), then if it really is on the maximum (cursor columns gone 
full into the red), then I can record and play a sound that I can hear ; 
it is weak but still I can easily reckognize my voice.  In the other hand,


$ play any_other_wavfile_recorded_somewhere_else.wav

I get normal level good sound with alsamixer set to normal values for play

I have just tested a bit more with alsamixer, this time using my webcam 
and GUVCwiewer. If I boost the alsamixer settings to maximum (red 
level), then I get SOME sound in my videos, which plays back using, not 
vlc, but 'Totem'... But then the played back sound si very week and even 
cracky (distorded with kinds of cracks)... and absolutely no sound at 
all if the alsamixer parameters are not to the maximum.


As for Cheese, I just tested something else as just mentioned. It is 
GUVCwiewer. It looks a lot better... but still no sound or very bad and 
weak one as stated above.



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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

2012-03-25 Thread Keith McKenzie




I have tried to see with alsamixer if something looked weird: recording
levels as well as play levels on both cards seem OK (Green + while in
the columns, just before the red zones).



Not sure if you've tried these:-

Alsamixer has 'mic-boost', 'capture', 'capture1',  'internal mic 
boost'. (Press F4)


Also F6 might give another soundcard.


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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

2012-03-25 Thread Bernard

Keith McKenzie wrote:




I have tried to see with alsamixer if something looked weird: recording
levels as well as play levels on both cards seem OK (Green + while in
the columns, just before the red zones).



Not sure if you've tried these:-

Alsamixer has 'mic-boost', 'capture', 'capture1',  'internal mic 
boost'. (Press F4)


Also F6 might give another soundcard.


I sort of tried these... What I mean is that I suppose not all sound 
cards support all these options. Mine does have 'Capture', 'Playback' 
and various SPDIF options, but no 'intertnal mic boost' or 'mic boost'. 
As for F6, it lists the two sound cards that are available in that 
system, that is :


HDA Intel G45 DEVCTG

and the webcam sound card, that states that it does not have any 
playback function. For more details, please see the screen shots that I 
have done with alsamixer :


http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer1.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/Alsamixer2.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer3.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer4.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer5.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer6.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer7.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer8.jpg


You will surely notice on these screen shots that most sound settings 
are so high that they are 'in the red'. Those settings were the only 
ones that allowed me to record a very weak and distorted - but still 
existing - sound in videos. Normal settings (green zones and green + 
white zones) gave no sound at all






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can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

2012-03-24 Thread Bernard

Hi to Everyone !

I just bought the above mentioned web camera, and, if I record a video 
using Cheese, the sound is not there when I try displaying the record 
using 'vlc'. I get this:


main subpicture error : blending YUVA to I444 failed

this line repeated a number of times.

The image is there though, but no sound

Thanks in advance for your input


P.S. : Debian Squeeze on that system.


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RE: Can't get sound to work (CMIxxxx)

2003-01-22 Thread Jay
Thanks Bob, I'll try that...

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~Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:56 PM
~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~Subject: Re: Can't get sound to work (CMI)
~
~
~At least some of the Debian kernel-image packages (I run
~kernel-image-2.4.20-686) already contain many of the CMI drivers, so
~compiling your own shouldn't be necessary:
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Can't get sound to work (CMIxxxx)

2003-01-21 Thread Jay
Hello everyone!

I know that this topic may have been typed to the death already, but I need
help getting my soundchips (CMI8xxx, the ones that are already built in to
the motherboard).

I read the old SuSe Linux manual, it had some instructions for sound which I
tried to follow and so far I tried sndconfig, and dselect(ed) isapnp (and it
recognizes the soundchips at bootup), but it nags that I need a 2.xomething
kernel in order to run, or that it needs soundcard.o files, I think I do
have the correct kernel version, but I cannot get any sound out of it.

Am I missing something or is there something else that I need to read
(something I'm overlooking from the Woody CD dist)?

Thanks In Advanced!

May the Force of the Dragon's Spirit be with you...In Accordance With The
Prophecy.

Happy Hacking, Bright Blessings and Gentle Breezes!

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RE: Can't get sound to work (CMIxxxx)

2003-01-21 Thread dbalder
Hello everyone!

I know that this topic may have been typed to the death already, but I need
help getting my soundchips (CMI8xxx, the ones that are already built in to
the motherboard).

I read the old SuSe Linux manual, it had some instructions for sound which I
tried to follow and so far I tried sndconfig, and dselect(ed) isapnp (and it
recognizes the soundchips at bootup), but it nags that I need a 2.xomething
kernel in order to run, or that it needs soundcard.o files, I think I do
have the correct kernel version, but I cannot get any sound out of it.

Am I missing something or is there something else that I need to read
(something I'm overlooking from the Woody CD dist)?

Thanks In Advanced!

May the Force of the Dragon's Spirit be with you...In Accordance With The
Prophecy.

Happy Hacking, Bright Blessings and Gentle Breezes!


Did you actually compile the kernel yourself or are you using something that is 
pre-compiled?
Your problem sounds like you are missing sound support in the kernel. I think you are 
missing soundcore.o which is core sound support.


Hope this helps.


Davor



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RE: Can't get sound to work (CMIxxxx)

2003-01-21 Thread Jay
I installed debian from the CD as the normal install, I do think that I'm
missing something but I don't know what package contains it (dselect what?)

Thanks again!

- Jay.

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~
~SNIP
~
~Did you actually compile the kernel yourself or are you using
~something that is pre-compiled?
~Your problem sounds like you are missing sound support in the
~kernel. I think you are missing soundcore.o which is core
~sound support.
~
~
~Hope this helps.
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Re: Can't get sound to work (CMIxxxx)

2003-01-21 Thread Bob Nielsen
The driver should be provided with the kernel as a module. Try this:

modprobe cmpci

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 04:21:14PM -0800, Jay wrote:
 I installed debian from the CD as the normal install, I do think that I'm
 missing something but I don't know what package contains it (dselect what?)
 
 Thanks again!
 
 - Jay.
 
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 ~Did you actually compile the kernel yourself or are you using
 ~something that is pre-compiled?
 ~Your problem sounds like you are missing sound support in the
 ~kernel. I think you are missing soundcore.o which is core
 ~sound support.
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RE: Can't get sound to work (CMIxxxx)

2003-01-21 Thread dbalder
I installed debian from the CD as the normal install, I do think that I'm
missing something but I don't know what package contains it (dselect
what?)

Thanks again!

- Jay.


OK, now I get it. You will need to install kernel-source-2.4.18 or
something like that and compile your own kernel with CMI drivers/modules
either compiled in or with those modules installed. This should fix it.


Davor



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Re: Can't get sound to work (CMIxxxx)

2003-01-21 Thread Bob Nielsen
At least some of the Debian kernel-image packages (I run
kernel-image-2.4.20-686) already contain many of the CMI drivers, so
compiling your own shouldn't be necessary:

# grep CMPCI /boot/config-2.4.20-686

CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI=m
# CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_FM is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_MIDI is not set
CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_JOYSTICK=y
CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_CM8738=y
# CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_SPDIFINVERSE is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_SPDIFLOOP is not set
CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_SPEAKERS=2

On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:26:07PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I installed debian from the CD as the normal install, I do think that I'm
 missing something but I don't know what package contains it (dselect
 what?)
 
 Thanks again!
 
 - Jay.
 
 
 OK, now I get it. You will need to install kernel-source-2.4.18 or
 something like that and compile your own kernel with CMI drivers/modules
 either compiled in or with those modules installed. This should fix it.
 


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Re: Can't get sound to work!

2001-01-21 Thread Rev. Ferret
Ok, I got sound working.  On my windows boot the sound was on IRQ 5, it kept 
trying to put it on IRQ 7 in linux.  I added a /etc/modutils/sound file and put
options sb irq=5 io=0x220 dma=1
in it, but when I rebooted it seemed to ignore that file.  So instead I edited 
/etc/modules.  It had a single line in it that said:
sb
So I change it to read:
sb irq=5 io=0x220 dma=1
That worked.  What is confusing me now, is that when I shut down, during my 
shutdown messages I get a message that the alsa driver isn't running.  This is 
correct, it shouldn't be.  But I can't
figure out why my machine is trying to shut it down.  I checked in rcS.d and my 
rc5.d directories (I'm running in mode 5) but I can't figure out where my 
machine is trying start/shutdown the alsa
drivers.  Also, during my boot sequence my machine scans for SCSI interfaces.  
I don't have any scsi interfaces so how can I stop it from doing this scan 
everytime I boot?

BTW, apt-get rocks.  Now I know why people who use debian never go to anything 
else.  I'm addicted :)

Kent West wrote:

 Rev. Ferret wrote:

  Ok, I added myself to user audio and I now get sound from things.  There is 
  just one problem.  The sound skips.  It sounds like a broken record player, 
  where it plays the same bit over and over
  again.  I tried chmod'ing the audio things to world usable, but it didn't 
  help.  Any ideas on how to get  it to stop skipping?  At least I'm getting 
  some sound now :)
 

 Probably one of two things:
 (1) wrong sound driver or problems with the driver
 (2) IRQ or IOPort conflict

 If this is an ISA card, it's probably the second. Do you have a
 dual-boot with Win9x? If so, what IRQ/io does it report the card being
 on? Does this match what Linux thinks? Or maybe it's a jumper-configured
 card, in which case, make sure Linux sees the same settings that the
 card is actually on. If Linux doesn't match the actual settings, you can
 feed the settings to the module when it installs. For example, I have a
 file /etc/modutils/sound which has the two lines:
 options uart401 irq=9 io=0x330
 options sb irq=5 io=0x220 dma=1

 hth, Kent



Re: Can't get sound to work!

2001-01-21 Thread Kent West

Rev. Ferret wrote:


Ok, I got sound working.  On my windows boot the sound was on IRQ 5, it kept 
trying to put it on IRQ 7 in linux.  I added a /etc/modutils/sound file and put
options sb irq=5 io=0x220 dma=1
in it, but when I rebooted it seemed to ignore that file.


You also have to run update-modules; that reads the files in 
/etc/modules and propogates any necessary config information into 
/etc/modules.conf.



  So instead I edited /etc/modules.  It had a single line in it that said:
sb
So I change it to read:
sb irq=5 io=0x220 dma=1
That worked.  What is confusing me now, is that when I shut down, during my 
shutdown messages I get a message that the alsa driver isn't running.  This is 
correct, it shouldn't be.  But I can't
figure out why my machine is trying to shut it down.  I checked in rcS.d and my 
rc5.d directories (I'm running in mode 5) but I can't figure out where my 
machine is trying start/shutdown the alsa
drivers.


Not being a user of ALSA, I can't speak to this; you might want to start 
a new thread so people don't tune out this question based on the old, 
now non-applicable, subject line.



 Also, during my boot sequence my machine scans for SCSI interfaces.  I don't 
have any scsi interfaces so how can I stop it from doing this scan everytime I 
boot?


You might need to recompile your kernel; the stock kernel contains code 
for SCSI devices; it doesn't hurt to leave it there (except getting rid 
of it woudl make your kernel smaller).



BTW, apt-get rocks.  Now I know why people who use debian never go to anything 
else.  I'm addicted :


Yeppers.



Can't get sound to work!

2001-01-20 Thread Rev. Ferret
Hi, I'm having problems getting my sound blaster 16 working.  I used
modconf to select the sb module, which in turn selected a bunch of the
oss modules.  After doing this, I can play audio cd's, but whenever I
try to run gmix it tells me that I do not have a mixer installed or my
kernel doesn't support sound.  When I run XMMS, it tells me my kernel
either doesn't support sound or my card is not configured correctly.  I
figured my kernel supports sound because I can load sound modules and
play audio cd's, so something else must be wrong.  What else do I have
to do to get sound to work under debian?

Thanks,
Steve



Re: Can't get sound to work!

2001-01-20 Thread Kent West

Rev. Ferret wrote:


Hi, I'm having problems getting my sound blaster 16 working.  I used
modconf to select the sb module, which in turn selected a bunch of the
oss modules.  After doing this, I can play audio cd's, but whenever I
try to run gmix it tells me that I do not have a mixer installed or my
kernel doesn't support sound.  When I run XMMS, it tells me my kernel
either doesn't support sound or my card is not configured correctly.  I
figured my kernel supports sound because I can load sound modules and
play audio cd's, so something else must be wrong.  What else do I have
to do to get sound to work under debian?

Thanks,
Steve




I'm no expert, so if you have any further questions, reply to all, not 
just to me, so that the list members can throw in their two cents.


(1) You need to have support in your kernel for your sound card. There 
are two methods of doing this; one is to compile it in; the other is to 
plug it in as a module. Your description indicates that you're using the 
module method.


(2) Playing an audio CD doesn't really depend on the software sound 
support; most CD drives will start spinning as soon as you put in a CD, 
and the sound from an audio CD is piped through the audio cable directly 
to the sound card. What a broken software setup will do is prevent you 
from using apps to control tracks, volume, etc. About the only thing 
playing an audio CD proves is that the hardware is functional (which is 
a good thing to know); it also points strongly to a lack of IRQ conflict 
(although not necessarily).


(3) When you boot up, you should see some info scroll by concerning your 
sound card. But generally it goes by too fast to see, and you can see it 
after the fact by running dmesg|more.


(4) You should be able to see if you card is recognized, and on which 
IRQ, by running cat /proc/interrupts (my card is on IRQ 5 and 9).


(5) Ditto for IO by running cat /proc/ioports (my card's on 220-2FF 
and 330-3FF).


(6) You can see what modules are loaded by running lsmod (I've got 
soundcore, sound, uart401, and sb).


(7) I'm not sure what cat /proc/devices indicates, but it lists my 
sound card, so it might be relevant.


(8) Perhaps the most informative command is cat /dev/sndstat, which on 
my machine reports:


OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
Load type: Driver loaded as a module
Kernel: Linux westk03 2.2.18 #2 Thu Jan 18 22:52:14 CST 2001 i586
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:

Card config:

Audio devices:
0: Sound Blaster Pro (8 BIT ONLY) (3.02)

Synth devices:

Midi devices:
0: MPU-401 (UART) MIDI
1: Sound Blaster

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster




Perhaps this info will get you a bit further on your quest to get your 
card working. Good luck!


Kent




[ferret@optonline.net: Can't get sound to work!]

2001-01-20 Thread Marcial Zamora III
- Forwarded message from Rev. Ferret [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Hi, I'm having problems getting my sound blaster 16 working.  I used
modconf to select the sb module, which in turn selected a bunch of the
oss modules.  After doing this, I can play audio cd's, but whenever I
try to run gmix it tells me that I do not have a mixer installed or my
kernel doesn't support sound.  When I run XMMS, it tells me my kernel
either doesn't support sound or my card is not configured correctly.  I
figured my kernel supports sound because I can load sound modules and
play audio cd's, so something else must be wrong.  What else do I have
to do to get sound to work under debian?

- End forwarded message -

I had the same problem, and you can do one of 2 things.. you can add yourself 
as a user to the audio group, or just chmod all the /dev/mixer devices to where 
they are world usable.. man chmod  =)



Re: Can't get sound to work!

2001-01-20 Thread Rev. Ferret
It seems that my card is recognized. Everything looks normal except for the
output of my /dev/sndstat.  I can use apps to control tracks of audio cd's
and things like that.  I just can't use any mixer apps or play any audio
except for cd audio.  I can't figure out what's wrong.  Using redhat and
mandrake I was able to just do sndconfig and pick soundblaster and everything
worked.  I only seem to be having this problem with debian.


The results of cat /proc/interrupts has the following entry:

7:4soundblaster

The output of /proc/ioports has this entry:

0220-022f : soundblaster

lsmod contains these entries:
sb,uart401,sound,soundlow,soundcore

cat /dev/sndstat lists the following:
OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
Load type: Driver loaded as a module
Kernel: Linux neuro 2.2.18pre21 #1 Sat Nov 18 18:47:15 EST 2000 i686
Config options: 0

Installed Drivers:

Card config:

Audio devices:
0: ESS ES1879 AudioDrive (rev 11) (3.01)

Synth devices:

Midi devices:
0: ESS ES1688

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster

Kent West wrote:

 Rev. Ferret wrote:

  Hi, I'm having problems getting my sound blaster 16 working.  I used
  modconf to select the sb module, which in turn selected a bunch of the
  oss modules.  After doing this, I can play audio cd's, but whenever I
  try to run gmix it tells me that I do not have a mixer installed or my
  kernel doesn't support sound.  When I run XMMS, it tells me my kernel
  either doesn't support sound or my card is not configured correctly.  I
  figured my kernel supports sound because I can load sound modules and
  play audio cd's, so something else must be wrong.  What else do I have
  to do to get sound to work under debian?
 
  Thanks,
  Steve
 
 

 I'm no expert, so if you have any further questions, reply to all, not
 just to me, so that the list members can throw in their two cents.

 (1) You need to have support in your kernel for your sound card. There
 are two methods of doing this; one is to compile it in; the other is to
 plug it in as a module. Your description indicates that you're using the
 module method.

 (2) Playing an audio CD doesn't really depend on the software sound
 support; most CD drives will start spinning as soon as you put in a CD,
 and the sound from an audio CD is piped through the audio cable directly
 to the sound card. What a broken software setup will do is prevent you
 from using apps to control tracks, volume, etc. About the only thing
 playing an audio CD proves is that the hardware is functional (which is
 a good thing to know); it also points strongly to a lack of IRQ conflict
 (although not necessarily).

 (3) When you boot up, you should see some info scroll by concerning your
 sound card. But generally it goes by too fast to see, and you can see it
 after the fact by running dmesg|more.

 (4) You should be able to see if you card is recognized, and on which
 IRQ, by running cat /proc/interrupts (my card is on IRQ 5 and 9).

 (5) Ditto for IO by running cat /proc/ioports (my card's on 220-2FF
 and 330-3FF).

 (6) You can see what modules are loaded by running lsmod (I've got
 soundcore, sound, uart401, and sb).

 (7) I'm not sure what cat /proc/devices indicates, but it lists my
 sound card, so it might be relevant.

 (8) Perhaps the most informative command is cat /dev/sndstat, which on
 my machine reports:

 OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
 Load type: Driver loaded as a module
 Kernel: Linux westk03 2.2.18 #2 Thu Jan 18 22:52:14 CST 2001 i586
 Config options: 0

 Installed drivers:

 Card config:

 Audio devices:
 0: Sound Blaster Pro (8 BIT ONLY) (3.02)

 Synth devices:

 Midi devices:
 0: MPU-401 (UART) MIDI
 1: Sound Blaster

 Timers:
 0: System clock

 Mixers:
 0: Sound Blaster

 Perhaps this info will get you a bit further on your quest to get your
 card working. Good luck!

 Kent



Re: Can't get sound to work!

2001-01-20 Thread Kent West

Rev. Ferret wrote:


It seems that my card is recognized. Everything looks normal except for the
output of my /dev/sndstat.  I can use apps to control tracks of audio cd's
and things like that.  I just can't use any mixer apps or play any audio
except for cd audio.  I can't figure out what's wrong.  Using redhat and
mandrake I was able to just do sndconfig and pick soundblaster and everything
worked.  I only seem to be having this problem with debian.


The results of cat /proc/interrupts has the following entry:

7:4soundblaster

The output of /proc/ioports has this entry:

0220-022f : soundblaster

lsmod contains these entries:
sb,uart401,sound,soundlow,soundcore

cat /dev/sndstat lists the following:
OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
Load type: Driver loaded as a module
Kernel: Linux neuro 2.2.18pre21 #1 Sat Nov 18 18:47:15 EST 2000 i686
Config options: 0

Installed Drivers:

Card config:

Audio devices:
0: ESS ES1879 AudioDrive (rev 11) (3.01)

Synth devices:

Midi devices:
0: ESS ES1688

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster



Looks good from what I can tell. The difference with your /dev/sndstat 
file are just because you have a different card than mine.


Someone else replied (I've already deleted the message, so can't give 
proper credit; sorry) and suggested it was a permissions problem. Make 
sure you're in the audio group (as the user, type groups); if not, add 
yourself (as root, type adduser [yourUserName] audio). Then logout and 
log back in and test.


You might also try a simpler testing scheme for now; from a terminal, 
run something like play [someWAVfile]; you can do this as root and as 
a normal user to test permissions issues.


I think you're probably getting close. And yes, other distros such as 
Redhat and Mandrake tend to help you get a system up easier in many 
cases, but Debian makes maintaining a system much easier than those 
other distros do. There are also many other advantages to Debian (see 
the recent Why choose Debian thread for more info), so don't get too 
disappointed with Debian yet; in the long run you'll really be glad you 
went Debian.




Re: Can't get sound to work!

2001-01-20 Thread Rev. Ferret
Ok, I added myself to user audio and I now get sound from things.  There is 
just one problem.  The sound skips.  It sounds like a broken record player, 
where it plays the same bit over and over
again.  I tried chmod'ing the audio things to world usable, but it didn't help. 
 Any ideas on how to get  it to stop skipping?  At least I'm getting some sound 
now :)

Marcial Zamora III wrote:

 - Forwarded message from Rev. Ferret [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

 Hi, I'm having problems getting my sound blaster 16 working.  I used
 modconf to select the sb module, which in turn selected a bunch of the
 oss modules.  After doing this, I can play audio cd's, but whenever I
 try to run gmix it tells me that I do not have a mixer installed or my
 kernel doesn't support sound.  When I run XMMS, it tells me my kernel
 either doesn't support sound or my card is not configured correctly.  I
 figured my kernel supports sound because I can load sound modules and
 play audio cd's, so something else must be wrong.  What else do I have
 to do to get sound to work under debian?

 - End forwarded message -

 I had the same problem, and you can do one of 2 things.. you can add yourself 
 as a user to the audio group, or just chmod all the /dev/mixer devices to 
 where they are world usable.. man chmod  =)

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Re: Can't get sound to work!

2001-01-20 Thread Kent West

Rev. Ferret wrote:


Ok, I added myself to user audio and I now get sound from things.  There is 
just one problem.  The sound skips.  It sounds like a broken record player, 
where it plays the same bit over and over
again.  I tried chmod'ing the audio things to world usable, but it didn't help. 
 Any ideas on how to get  it to stop skipping?  At least I'm getting some sound 
now :)



Probably one of two things:
(1) wrong sound driver or problems with the driver
(2) IRQ or IOPort conflict

If this is an ISA card, it's probably the second. Do you have a 
dual-boot with Win9x? If so, what IRQ/io does it report the card being 
on? Does this match what Linux thinks? Or maybe it's a jumper-configured 
card, in which case, make sure Linux sees the same settings that the 
card is actually on. If Linux doesn't match the actual settings, you can 
feed the settings to the module when it installs. For example, I have a 
file /etc/modutils/sound which has the two lines:

options uart401 irq=9 io=0x330
options sb irq=5 io=0x220 dma=1

hth, Kent



[westk@acu.edu: Re: Can't get sound to work!]

2001-01-20 Thread Marcial Zamora III
- Forwarded message from Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Rev. Ferret wrote:

 Ok, I added myself to user audio and I now get sound from things.  There is 
 just one problem.  The sound skips.  It sounds like a broken record player, 
 where it plays the same bit over and over
 again.  I tried chmod'ing the audio things to world usable, but it didn't 
 help.  Any ideas on how to get  it to stop skipping?  At least I'm getting 
 some sound now :)
 

Probably one of two things:
(1) wrong sound driver or problems with the driver
(2) IRQ or IOPort conflict

If this is an ISA card, it's probably the second. Do you have a 
dual-boot with Win9x? If so, what IRQ/io does it report the card being 
on? Does this match what Linux thinks? Or maybe it's a jumper-configured 
card, in which case, make sure Linux sees the same settings that the 
card is actually on. If Linux doesn't match the actual settings, you can 
feed the settings to the module when it installs. For example, I have a 
file /etc/modutils/sound which has the two lines:
options uart401 irq=9 io=0x330
options sb irq=5 io=0x220 dma=1

hth, Kent

- End forwarded message -

nah, if it wuz a conflict, he would get an error message telling him the device 
or resource wuz busy.. im thinkin the former, and I forgot wut card it wuz you 
stated.. repeat it, and I or someone else should be able to tell yaz which is 
the proper module to load  =)