Re: Can not see my desktop in vnc session that is started up from local display.
On 09/13/2007 11:28 PM, Michael Yang wrote: Hi guys: I installed the tightvncserver on Debian Etch, and set it up as normal as I did in my old system (fedora). I opened the terminal from local gnome desktop, and executed the vncserver :1, the vncserver is started up, but I can't see the desktop in this vncsession, only the X server is displayed. However, I remotely login to the server, and from the terminal of this ssh session, I executed the same command as above to start up the vnc service, then I can see the desktop in the vncsession. Is there any points I missed to correctly set it up? Here is my xstartup script: #!/bin/sh # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: # unset SESSION_MANAGER # exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey #vncconfig -iconic #xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop #x-window-manager gnome-session I dont see any differences or specials in the script, since it's simply straightforward to understand. Or is the method of starting up the vncserver from local display not supported? Any body have idea about this? Thanks. Michael. Is your firewall blocking connections from the localhost? After I set up the password using vncpasswd, I can start the server using 'vncserver :1' , and I can easily view the session with 'xtightvncviewer :1' If connections from localhost are not blocked, this should work. However, I see you're starting a Gnome session; I hope that you're not doing that from within another Gnome session for the same user account. Gnome is a complicated environment with many parts that must be in communication with one another. These parts probably communicate over sockets in /tmp. I'm in Gnome right now, and the sockets I see don't have any display numbers in their names. If two Gnome sessions are running for the same user, how can one session distinguish itself from another? I don't think Gnome can handle two sessions for the same user at the same time. Use something simple like icewm-session, fvwm or fluxbox to manage windows in VNC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can not see my desktop in vnc session that is started up from local display.
I meant not to add the gnome-session at the end of the xstartup script. In Fedora, the script I used was a little different: #!/bin/sh # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: unset SESSION_MANAGER exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey vncconfig -iconic xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop twm The first two lines are uncommented and the last line was replaced by twm instead of gnome-session. If I didn't put the gnome-session at the end of the script, only the X Server is started, but no desktop available in VNC. What should I do in Debian to have the desktop in VNC session? Do I have to install the other window managers? Thanks. On 9/14/07, Mumia W.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09/13/2007 11:28 PM, Michael Yang wrote: Hi guys: I installed the tightvncserver on Debian Etch, and set it up as normal as I did in my old system (fedora). I opened the terminal from local gnome desktop, and executed the vncserver :1, the vncserver is started up, but I can't see the desktop in this vncsession, only the X server is displayed. However, I remotely login to the server, and from the terminal of this ssh session, I executed the same command as above to start up the vnc service, then I can see the desktop in the vncsession. Is there any points I missed to correctly set it up? Here is my xstartup script: #!/bin/sh # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: # unset SESSION_MANAGER # exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey #vncconfig -iconic #xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop #x-window-manager gnome-session I dont see any differences or specials in the script, since it's simply straightforward to understand. Or is the method of starting up the vncserver from local display not supported? Any body have idea about this? Thanks. Michael. Is your firewall blocking connections from the localhost? After I set up the password using vncpasswd, I can start the server using 'vncserver :1' , and I can easily view the session with 'xtightvncviewer :1' If connections from localhost are not blocked, this should work. However, I see you're starting a Gnome session; I hope that you're not doing that from within another Gnome session for the same user account. Gnome is a complicated environment with many parts that must be in communication with one another. These parts probably communicate over sockets in /tmp. I'm in Gnome right now, and the sockets I see don't have any display numbers in their names. If two Gnome sessions are running for the same user, how can one session distinguish itself from another? I don't think Gnome can handle two sessions for the same user at the same time. Use something simple like icewm-session, fvwm or fluxbox to manage windows in VNC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can not see my desktop in vnc session that is started up from local display.
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:04:53 +0800 Michael Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant not to add the gnome-session at the end of the xstartup script. In Fedora, the script I used was a little different: #!/bin/sh # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: unset SESSION_MANAGER exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey vncconfig -iconic xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop twm The first two lines are uncommented and the last line was replaced by twm instead of gnome-session. If I didn't put the gnome-session at the end of the script, only the X Server is started, but no desktop available in VNC. What should I do in Debian to have the desktop in VNC session? Do I have to install the other window managers? Thanks. Is the file /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc executable? If not, change the line exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc to exec sh /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- Liam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can not see my desktop in vnc session that is started up from local display.
On 09/14/2007 03:04 AM, Michael Yang wrote: On 9/14/07, Mumia W.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09/13/2007 11:28 PM, Michael Yang wrote: Hi guys: I installed the tightvncserver on Debian Etch, and set it up as normal as I did in my old system (fedora). I opened the terminal from local gnome desktop, and executed the vncserver :1, the vncserver is started up, but I can't see the desktop in this vncsession, only the X server is displayed. However, I remotely login to the server, and from the terminal of this ssh session, I executed the same command as above to start up the vnc service, then I can see the desktop in the vncsession. Is there any points I missed to correctly set it up? Here is my xstartup script: #!/bin/sh # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: # unset SESSION_MANAGER # exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey #vncconfig -iconic #xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop #x-window-manager gnome-session I dont see any differences or specials in the script, since it's simply straightforward to understand. Or is the method of starting up the vncserver from local display not supported? Any body have idea about this? Thanks. Michael. Is your firewall blocking connections from the localhost? After I set up the password using vncpasswd, I can start the server using 'vncserver :1' , and I can easily view the session with 'xtightvncviewer :1' If connections from localhost are not blocked, this should work. However, I see you're starting a Gnome session; I hope that you're not doing that from within another Gnome session for the same user account. Gnome is a complicated environment with many parts that must be in communication with one another. These parts probably communicate over sockets in /tmp. I'm in Gnome right now, and the sockets I see don't have any display numbers in their names. If two Gnome sessions are running for the same user, how can one session distinguish itself from another? I don't think Gnome can handle two sessions for the same user at the same time. Use something simple like icewm-session, fvwm or fluxbox to manage windows in VNC. I meant not to add the gnome-session at the end of the xstartup script. In Fedora, the script I used was a little different: #!/bin/sh # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: unset SESSION_MANAGER exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey vncconfig -iconic xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop twm The first two lines are uncommented and the last line was replaced by twm instead of gnome-session. If I didn't put the gnome-session at the end of the script, only the X Server is started, but no desktop available in VNC. What should I do in Debian to have the desktop in VNC session? Do I have to install the other window managers? Thanks. Yes, install an alternate window manager sometime soon, but right now, you should be able to run with an xstartup script like this: #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey nautilus --no-desktop xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop metacity It that works, you can start experimenting with adding parts of Gnome such as the nautilus desktop, the gnome-settings-daemon and the gnome-panel. However, I would advise just using and alternate window manager for vnc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can not see my desktop in vnc session that is started up from local display.
Mumia W.. wrote: If connections from localhost are not blocked, this should work. However, I see you're starting a Gnome session; I hope that you're not doing that from within another Gnome session for the same user account. Gnome is a complicated environment with many parts that must be in communication with one another. These parts probably communicate over sockets in /tmp. I'm in Gnome right now, and the sockets I see don't have any display numbers in their names. If two Gnome sessions are running for the same user, how can one session distinguish itself from another? I don't think Gnome can handle two sessions for the same user at the same time. Use something simple like icewm-session, fvwm or fluxbox to manage windows in VNC. Interesting. I have noticed that if I open a vnc session on a machine from a remote machine while I am logged in on the machine locally, my keyboard map is screwed up in the vnc session! I am not sure exactly what is going wrong, but then I haven't even tried to investigate yet. But your comment above may explain that. I will try to logout or kill the local gnome session and see if the problem is solved. Or I may just start a different manager in the vnc session as you suggest. thanks, -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can not see my desktop in vnc session that is started up from local display.
H.S. wrote: Mumia W.. wrote: If connections from localhost are not blocked, this should work. However, I see you're starting a Gnome session; I hope that you're not doing that from within another Gnome session for the same user account. Gnome is a complicated environment with many parts that must be in communication with one another. These parts probably communicate over sockets in /tmp. I'm in Gnome right now, and the sockets I see don't have any display numbers in their names. If two Gnome sessions are running for the same user, how can one session distinguish itself from another? I don't think Gnome can handle two sessions for the same user at the same time. Use something simple like icewm-session, fvwm or fluxbox to manage windows in VNC. Interesting. I have noticed that if I open a vnc session on a machine from a remote machine while I am logged in on the machine locally, my keyboard map is screwed up in the vnc session! I am not sure exactly what is going wrong, but then I haven't even tried to investigate yet. But your comment above may explain that. I will try to logout or kill the local gnome session and see if the problem is solved. Or I may just start a different manager in the vnc session as you suggest. thanks, -HS I rebooted that machine (runs Ubuntu) and then started a vnc session again and tried to open a VNC session from a remote machine (runs Lenny). Same weird keyboard mapping problem. So no, killing the users and rebooting the machine (there were some upgrades needing rebooting) did not resolve the problem. Sorry about the noise. -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can not see my desktop in vnc session that is started up from local display.
H.S. wrote: H.S. wrote: Mumia W.. wrote: If connections from localhost are not blocked, this should work. However, I see you're starting a Gnome session; I hope that you're not doing that from within another Gnome session for the same user account. Gnome is a complicated environment with many parts that must be in communication with one another. These parts probably communicate over sockets in /tmp. I'm in Gnome right now, and the sockets I see don't have any display numbers in their names. If two Gnome sessions are running for the same user, how can one session distinguish itself from another? I don't think Gnome can handle two sessions for the same user at the same time. Use something simple like icewm-session, fvwm or fluxbox to manage windows in VNC. Interesting. I have noticed that if I open a vnc session on a machine from a remote machine while I am logged in on the machine locally, my keyboard map is screwed up in the vnc session! I am not sure exactly what is going wrong, but then I haven't even tried to investigate yet. But your comment above may explain that. I will try to logout or kill the local gnome session and see if the problem is solved. Or I may just start a different manager in the vnc session as you suggest. thanks, -HS I rebooted that machine (runs Ubuntu) and then started a vnc session again and tried to open a VNC session from a remote machine (runs Lenny). Same weird keyboard mapping problem. So no, killing the users and rebooting the machine (there were some upgrades needing rebooting) did not resolve the problem. Sorry about the noise. -HS What solved the problem was to not use gnome! Previously, I was using this in ~/.vnc/xstartup: $ cat .vnc/xstartup #!/bin/sh #xrdb $HOME/.Xresources #xsetroot -solid grey #x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP #Desktop #x-window-manager exec dbus-launch --auto-syntax --exit-with-session gnome-session changed it to the following and not I get a 'failsafe' session and an xterm and no gnome but a good keyboard: $ cat .vnc/xstartup #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop x-window-manager #exec dbus-launch --auto-syntax --exit-with-session gnome-session I better stop now, I have already hijacked the thread :) -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can not see my desktop in vnc session that is started up from local display.
Hi guys: I installed the tightvncserver on Debian Etch, and set it up as normal as I did in my old system (fedora). I opened the terminal from local gnome desktop, and executed the vncserver :1, the vncserver is started up, but I can't see the desktop in this vncsession, only the X server is displayed. However, I remotely login to the server, and from the terminal of this ssh session, I executed the same command as above to start up the vnc service, then I can see the desktop in the vncsession. Is there any points I missed to correctly set it up? Here is my xstartup script: #!/bin/sh # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: # unset SESSION_MANAGER # exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey #vncconfig -iconic #xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop #x-window-manager gnome-session I dont see any differences or specials in the script, since it's simply straightforward to understand. Or is the method of starting up the vncserver from local display not supported? Any body have idea about this? Thanks. Michael.
