Re: Cannot Login - Access Found!

2009-08-21 Thread Raquel
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:57:50 +0200
Emanoil Kotsev delop...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Raquel wrote:
 
  On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:59:39 -0500
  Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
  
   The machine has been hacked by someone using a Romanian IP
   address and has been taken offline while I continue to
   investigate.  Then I'll do a new install and rebuild.
  
  How'd he get in?
  
  I found it!  He got in through a vulnerability in Zen Cart.
  
  http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/35467/info
  
 
 Cite: Note that the issue occurs only when the 'admin' directory
 wasn't properly renamed during the installation process. 
 
 is this true?
 
 means your fault!
 
 sorry and reagards
 

Yeah.  I held a gun to his head and told him to break into my
computer and mess things up.  It's my fault the burglar broke into my
house because I locked all the doors with double dead-bolts but
didn't have a guard dog.

It's my fault because I don't go to the Zen Cart web site regularly.

-- 
Raquel

And indeed people sometimes speak of man's bestial cruelty, but
this is very unfair and insulting to the beasts: a beast can never be
so cruel as a man, so ingeniously, so artistically cruel.

  --Ivan Karamazov


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Re: Cannot Login - Access Found!

2009-08-21 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Raquel wrote:

 
 Cite: Note that the issue occurs only when the 'admin' directory
 wasn't properly renamed during the installation process. 
 
 is this true?
 
 means your fault!
 
 sorry and reagards
 
 
 Yeah.  I held a gun to his head and told him to break into my
 computer and mess things up.  It's my fault the burglar broke into my
 house because I locked all the doors with double dead-bolts but
 didn't have a guard dog.
 
 It's my fault because I don't go to the Zen Cart web site regularly.
 

sorry didn't mean to insult you in any way.

young inpatient programmers ... what else I could say.

I also doubt I, myself, am well protected.

head up! sh*t happens!

regards

PS: If you were wise to make backups and know exactly when they broke in,
you also know how they got in, you could save time by starting over at some
previous point of time.




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Re: Cannot Login - Access Found!

2009-08-21 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20090821061430.b95afcb6.raq...@thericehouse.net, Raquel wrote:
Emanoil Kotsev delop...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Raquel wrote:
  Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
  Raquel wrote:
   The machine has been hacked by someone using a Romanian IP
 
  How'd he get in?
 
  I found it!  He got in through a vulnerability in Zen Cart.
 
  http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/35467/info

 Cite: Note that the issue occurs only when the 'admin' directory
 wasn't properly renamed during the installation process. 

 is this true?

 means your fault!

Yeah.  I held a gun to his head and told him to break into my
computer and mess things up.  It's my fault the burglar broke into my
house because I locked all the doors with double dead-bolts but
didn't have a guard dog.

More like you locked all the doors, but left one window open.

Still, I think that the point was that it is not a Debian security issue 
since Zen Cart isn't even packaged.  It's also not strictly a Zen Cart issue 
because they did everything they could once the vulnerability was found -- 
they can't fix your system for you, they can only notify you of the issues 
as they are discovered.

It's my fault because I don't go to the Zen Cart web site regularly.

Yes-ish.  If you are installing software in a secure environment you should 
follow security notifications about the software so you can assess any new 
threads and patch/reconfigure your system as need be.  Security is a 
process, not a product.

No once is trying to take the blame away from the Romanian cracker.  He or 
she took an active role in activities that robbed your of time and 
resources, and should be held accountable.  However, we (or at least I) wish 
to deflect blame from Debian or Zen Cart.
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Re: Cannot Login - Access Found!

2009-08-20 Thread Raquel
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:59:39 -0500
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

  The machine has been hacked by someone using a Romanian IP address
  and has been taken offline while I continue to investigate.  Then
  I'll do a new install and rebuild.
 
 How'd he get in?

I found it!  He got in through a vulnerability in Zen Cart.

I found in /var/log/auth.log where he'd changed the passwords of root
and myself and confirmed it in syslog.  Then I found
in /root/.bash_history where he'd downloaded some scripts to the
server, then started going through logs.  Finally I was digging
through apache logs and found him.  Then I googled for a
vulnerability in Zen Cart and found this:
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/35467/info

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Raquel

Power without love is reckless and abusive and love without power is
sentimental and anemic. Power at its best is love implementing the
demands of justice.  Justice at its best is power correcting
everything that stands against love.

  --Martin Luther King,. Jr.


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Re: Cannot Login - Access Found!

2009-08-20 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Raquel wrote:

 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:59:39 -0500
 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
 
  The machine has been hacked by someone using a Romanian IP address
  and has been taken offline while I continue to investigate.  Then
  I'll do a new install and rebuild.
 
 How'd he get in?
 
 I found it!  He got in through a vulnerability in Zen Cart.
 
 I found in /var/log/auth.log where he'd changed the passwords of root
 and myself and confirmed it in syslog.  Then I found
 in /root/.bash_history where he'd downloaded some scripts to the
 server, then started going through logs.  Finally I was digging
 through apache logs and found him.  Then I googled for a
 vulnerability in Zen Cart and found this:
 http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/35467/info
 

Cite: Note that the issue occurs only when the 'admin' directory wasn't
properly renamed during the installation process. 

is this true?

means your fault!

sorry and reagards


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