Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone? Semi-solved!
`The situation here is with Chromium on a SID laptop, while Chromium on a Stable desktop is just fine. Starting from a terminal gives: Gtk-Message: 06:46:36.954: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module" libva error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/iHD_drv_video.so init failed [12968:12968:0913/064637.144984:ERROR:chrome_browser_cloud_management_c ontroller.cc(163)] Cloud management controller initialization aborted as CBCM is not enabled. [12968:12999:0913/064637.896873:ERROR:nss_util.cc(357)] After loading Root Certs, loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018 [0913/064638.283625:ERROR:elf_dynamic_array_reader.h(64)] tag not found [13049:1:0100/00.316639:ERROR:broker_posix.cc(41)] Recvmsg error: Connection reset by peer (104) Segmentation fault It just looked like something that needed the developers to wake up in the morning, so I've left it for now. I do get a flash of Chromium on the screen before it dies, so it's classic seg fault. It just looks like the latest development phase hasn't been married up too well with the context'. This issue, on SID at any rate, is now solved with the latest update. Cheers! -- `One day, the great European war will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans'. -- Otto von Bismarck (1888)
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 07:04:50 + Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > On 13 Sep 2023 13:14 -0400, from cele...@gmail.com (Celejar): > > The truth is, however, that although I thought I had fully investigated > > the problem, I was wrong. Upon further investigation, it seems that it's > > my uBlock Origin settings that are causing the problem - disabling it > > entirely (as opposed to just for the pages mentioned above) solves the > > problem. Now I just have to dive into the logger and try to figure out > > what I need to adjust to get things working. > > For those times when I just want something to work _once_ and don't > foresee a need to do the thing repeatedly, I have written a script to > start Firefox with a brand new profile, then delete it on exit. > > It's not a great solution, admittedly, and the script itself is a bit > of a hack; but it works. That's what I just did manually to troubleshoot: create a fresh profile, verify that the site works with it, then delete it. -- Celejar
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On 13 Sep 2023 13:14 -0400, from cele...@gmail.com (Celejar): > The truth is, however, that although I thought I had fully investigated > the problem, I was wrong. Upon further investigation, it seems that it's > my uBlock Origin settings that are causing the problem - disabling it > entirely (as opposed to just for the pages mentioned above) solves the > problem. Now I just have to dive into the logger and try to figure out > what I need to adjust to get things working. For those times when I just want something to work _once_ and don't foresee a need to do the thing repeatedly, I have written a script to start Firefox with a brand new profile, then delete it on exit. It's not a great solution, admittedly, and the script itself is a bit of a hack; but it works. -- Michael Kjörling https://michael.kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”
FF not working for bank [was: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?]
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 01:14:34PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 09:16:15 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 13 Sep 2023 at 08:24:27 (-0400), Celejar wrote: > > > > > I have no choice - there's at least one important site (of a major > > > financial institution) that I need that simply doesn't work with > > > Firefox. > > > > Usual question: what does "doesn't work" mean? > > The site frequently goes into some kind of redirect loop - it keeps > jumping back and forth between "logon.example.com" and > "some.page.example.com", This looks like some cookie gets lost in transaction. The second page sees you coming empty-handed, sends you to the first to get your cookie and for some reason you drop it (I know, because I usually disallow all cookies ;-) > preventing me from accessing the site. I can > get around this, at least sometimes, by simply going to the URL bar and > typing in some other example.com url, but this behavior is really > annoying. > > The truth is, however, that although I thought I had fully investigated > the problem, I was wrong. Upon further investigation, it seems that it's > my uBlock Origin settings that are causing the problem - disabling it > entirely (as opposed to just for the pages mentioned above) solves the > problem. Now I just have to dive into the logger and try to figure out > what I need to adjust to get things working. Yep, exactly that. It might also happen if you disallow third-party cookies (a reasonable thing to do) and the bank's web "developers" play cookie ping-pong with some other shady web "service" (to them, not to you). Complain to them. It may not help upfront but it binds resources. If many people do, they might ending up giving in. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
SOLVED [was: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?]
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 06:35:12AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 08:09:48PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > [...] > > > The OP was on Stable; with Sid, we're hitting this: > > Yes. > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1051355 > > In the OP's case, Curt's proposal > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1039037 Yes, it is exactly this. After one reboot [1] all is well. Thank you all for your help! Cheers [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1039037#10 -- tomás signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On Wed Sep 13 10:22:29 2023 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 13 Sep 2023 at 08:24:27 (-0400), Celejar wrote: > >> I have no choice - there's at least one important site (of a major >> financial institution) that I need that simply doesn't work with >> Firefox. Tell me about it. I normally use Seamonkey (a Firefox variant), but even the latest Firefox didn't work. > Usual question: what does "doesn't work" mean? I can do most of my online banking with Seamonkey/Firefox, but when trying to activate a new credit card I got halfway into a set of screens that I don't normally access, and things just hung. I decided I might as well waste as much of the bank's time as they were wasting of mine, so I went down to my local branch and managed to get a supervisor. The first thing he did was ask me which browser I was using. I told him I was using Firefox, and he said, "Never heard of it." (!) He turned around his terminal so I could get at it, and I went through the same steps as I had tried at home. Naturally, since it was running their anointed browser (Microsoft Edge), everything went smoothly. I pointed out that this is a form of discrimination, and left the bank muttering things about digital racism. Since the supervisor wasn't Caucasian, this had a gratifying effect. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | They offer a huge range of \ /| world-class vulnerabilities X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | that only Microsoft can provide. / \ if you read it the right way. |-- druck
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 09:16:15 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 13 Sep 2023 at 08:24:27 (-0400), Celejar wrote: > > > I have no choice - there's at least one important site (of a major > > financial institution) that I need that simply doesn't work with > > Firefox. > > Usual question: what does "doesn't work" mean? The site frequently goes into some kind of redirect loop - it keeps jumping back and forth between "logon.example.com" and "some.page.example.com", preventing me from accessing the site. I can get around this, at least sometimes, by simply going to the URL bar and typing in some other example.com url, but this behavior is really annoying. The truth is, however, that although I thought I had fully investigated the problem, I was wrong. Upon further investigation, it seems that it's my uBlock Origin settings that are causing the problem - disabling it entirely (as opposed to just for the pages mentioned above) solves the problem. Now I just have to dive into the logger and try to figure out what I need to adjust to get things working. -- Celejar
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On Wed 13 Sep 2023 at 08:24:27 (-0400), Celejar wrote: > I have no choice - there's at least one important site (of a major > financial institution) that I need that simply doesn't work with > Firefox. Usual question: what does "doesn't work" mean? Cheers, David.
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
Celejar wrote: > I have no choice - there's at least one important site (of a major > financial institution) that I need that simply doesn't work with > Firefox. If I had anything to do with any financial institution, major or not, that was so incompetent that their website wasn't browser agnostic I would rapidly disengage myself from any involvement with that financial institution. I care about my money! Actually, I can generalise that. I don't do business with any organisation whose website won't work in FF.
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 06:35:12 +0200 wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 08:09:48PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > [...] > > > The OP was on Stable; with Sid, we're hitting this: > > Yes. > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1051355 > > In the OP's case, Curt's proposal > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1039037 > > fits things better (#1051355 mentions a segfault, in #1039037 the > processes just hang around) > > > One solution until the problem is resolved is to downgrade the Chromium > > packages, as per here: > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1051355#10 > > > > (The older Chromium packages are available at snapshot.debian.org.) > > ...but downgrading might be an idea. Alas, I might not get rhe > chance to try. $DAYJOB $BOSS wants to have (eek) Windoze on the > machine (I won't even think of Chromium on my private laptop ;-) I have no choice - there's at least one important site (of a major financial institution) that I need that simply doesn't work with Firefox. -- Celejar
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 08:09:48PM -0400, Celejar wrote: [...] > The OP was on Stable; with Sid, we're hitting this: Yes. > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1051355 In the OP's case, Curt's proposal https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1039037 fits things better (#1051355 mentions a segfault, in #1039037 the processes just hang around) > One solution until the problem is resolved is to downgrade the Chromium > packages, as per here: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1051355#10 > > (The older Chromium packages are available at snapshot.debian.org.) ...but downgrading might be an idea. Alas, I might not get rhe chance to try. $DAYJOB $BOSS wants to have (eek) Windoze on the machine (I won't even think of Chromium on my private laptop ;-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 06:55:40AM +1000, David wrote: [...] > Similar situation to mine, although specifics vary. > The situation here is with Chromium on a SID laptop, while Chromium on > a Stable desktop is just fine. > Starting from a terminal gives: > > Gtk-Message: 06:46:36.954: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module" > libva error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/iHD_drv_video.so init failed > [12968:12968:0913/064637.144984:ERROR:chrome_browser_cloud_management_c > ontroller.cc(163)] Cloud management controller initialization aborted > as CBCM is not enabled. > [12968:12999:0913/064637.896873:ERROR:nss_util.cc(357)] After loading > Root Certs, loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018 > [0913/064638.283625:ERROR:elf_dynamic_array_reader.h(64)] tag not found > [13049:1:0100/00.316639:ERROR:broker_posix.cc(41)] Recvmsg error: > Connection reset by peer (104) > Segmentation fault > > It just looked like something that needed the developers to wake up in > the morning, so I've left it for now. > I do get a flash of Chromium on the screen before it dies, so it's > classic seg fault. It just looks like the latest development phase > hasn't been married up too well with the context. This seems to be a bit different: in my case, some four Chromium processes stay around, hogging some RAM (a couple of 100MB) and a tiny bit of CPU. No flashes, no segfaults. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On Tue, 2023-09-12 at 20:09 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 06:55:40 +1000 > David wrote: > > > > Similar situation to mine, although specifics vary. > > The situation here is with Chromium on a SID laptop, while Chromium > > on > > a Stable desktop is just fine. > > Starting from a terminal gives: > > > > Gtk-Message: 06:46:36.954: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk- > > module" > > libva error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/iHD_drv_video.so init > > failed > > [12968:12968:0913/064637.144984:ERROR:chrome_browser_cloud_manageme > > nt_c > > ontroller.cc(163)] Cloud management controller initialization > > aborted > > as CBCM is not enabled. > > [12968:12999:0913/064637.896873:ERROR:nss_util.cc(357)] After > > loading > > Root Certs, loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018 > > [0913/064638.283625:ERROR:elf_dynamic_array_reader.h(64)] tag not > > found > > [13049:1:0100/00.316639:ERROR:broker_posix.cc(41)] Recvmsg > > error: > > Connection reset by peer (104) > > Segmentation fault > > > > It just looked like something that needed the developers to wake up > > in > > the morning, so I've left it for now. > > I do get a flash of Chromium on the screen before it dies, so it's > > classic seg fault. It just looks like the latest development phase > > hasn't been married up too well with the context. > > Cheers! > > The OP was on Stable; with Sid, we're hitting this: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1051355 > > One solution until the problem is resolved is to downgrade the > Chromium > packages, as per here: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1051355#10 > > (The older Chromium packages are available at snapshot.debian.org.) Yes, thanks for that. I'll just hang in. I never rely on just the one browser, having at least two installed. I suspect the fix will be along in the not too distant future. Chromium development is fairly active. Cheers! -- `One day, the great European war will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans'. -- Otto von Bismarck (1888)
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 06:55:40 +1000 David wrote: > Similar situation to mine, although specifics vary. > The situation here is with Chromium on a SID laptop, while Chromium on > a Stable desktop is just fine. > Starting from a terminal gives: > > Gtk-Message: 06:46:36.954: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module" > libva error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/iHD_drv_video.so init failed > [12968:12968:0913/064637.144984:ERROR:chrome_browser_cloud_management_c > ontroller.cc(163)] Cloud management controller initialization aborted > as CBCM is not enabled. > [12968:12999:0913/064637.896873:ERROR:nss_util.cc(357)] After loading > Root Certs, loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018 > [0913/064638.283625:ERROR:elf_dynamic_array_reader.h(64)] tag not found > [13049:1:0100/00.316639:ERROR:broker_posix.cc(41)] Recvmsg error: > Connection reset by peer (104) > Segmentation fault > > It just looked like something that needed the developers to wake up in > the morning, so I've left it for now. > I do get a flash of Chromium on the screen before it dies, so it's > classic seg fault. It just looks like the latest development phase > hasn't been married up too well with the context. > Cheers! The OP was on Stable; with Sid, we're hitting this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1051355 One solution until the problem is resolved is to downgrade the Chromium packages, as per here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1051355#10 (The older Chromium packages are available at snapshot.debian.org.) -- Celejar
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On Tue, 2023-09-12 at 15:25 +, Curt wrote: > On 2023-09-12, wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > it seems I can't start chromium. Pretty straight net install, > > Xfce desktop environment (no specialties, just the "normal" > > install), then "apt-get install chromium". > > > > Issuing "chromium" in a terminal seems to hang, top shows > > four processes running (and eating RAM for breakfast), but > > well whithin my 8G (at least RES, VIRT is at 32G. > > > > The whole thing stays like this until I ^C the command. Box > > behaves otherwise normally. > > > > Starting firefox (from the launcher or from the command line) > > works as I'd expect it to. > > > > Am I doing anything wrong? > > > > Sorry for my lack of specificity, I have no experience with > > Chromium. > > > > Maybe related to this bug? > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1039037 Similar situation to mine, although specifics vary. The situation here is with Chromium on a SID laptop, while Chromium on a Stable desktop is just fine. Starting from a terminal gives: Gtk-Message: 06:46:36.954: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module" libva error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/iHD_drv_video.so init failed [12968:12968:0913/064637.144984:ERROR:chrome_browser_cloud_management_c ontroller.cc(163)] Cloud management controller initialization aborted as CBCM is not enabled. [12968:12999:0913/064637.896873:ERROR:nss_util.cc(357)] After loading Root Certs, loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018 [0913/064638.283625:ERROR:elf_dynamic_array_reader.h(64)] tag not found [13049:1:0100/00.316639:ERROR:broker_posix.cc(41)] Recvmsg error: Connection reset by peer (104) Segmentation fault It just looked like something that needed the developers to wake up in the morning, so I've left it for now. I do get a flash of Chromium on the screen before it dies, so it's classic seg fault. It just looks like the latest development phase hasn't been married up too well with the context. Cheers! -- `One day, the great European war will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans'. -- Otto von Bismarck (1888)
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 03:25:35PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2023-09-12, wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > it seems I can't start chromium. Pretty straight net install, > > Xfce desktop environment (no specialties, just the "normal" > > install), then "apt-get install chromium". [...] > Maybe related to this bug? > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1039037 The description seems to fit. Thanks, Curt for the find! Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
On 2023-09-12, wrote: > > Hi, > > it seems I can't start chromium. Pretty straight net install, > Xfce desktop environment (no specialties, just the "normal" > install), then "apt-get install chromium". > > Issuing "chromium" in a terminal seems to hang, top shows > four processes running (and eating RAM for breakfast), but > well whithin my 8G (at least RES, VIRT is at 32G. > > The whole thing stays like this until I ^C the command. Box > behaves otherwise normally. > > Starting firefox (from the launcher or from the command line) > works as I'd expect it to. > > Am I doing anything wrong? > > Sorry for my lack of specificity, I have no experience with > Chromium. > Maybe related to this bug? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1039037
Chromium under Xfce/bookworm anyone?
Hi, it seems I can't start chromium. Pretty straight net install, Xfce desktop environment (no specialties, just the "normal" install), then "apt-get install chromium". Issuing "chromium" in a terminal seems to hang, top shows four processes running (and eating RAM for breakfast), but well whithin my 8G (at least RES, VIRT is at 32G. The whole thing stays like this until I ^C the command. Box behaves otherwise normally. Starting firefox (from the launcher or from the command line) works as I'd expect it to. Am I doing anything wrong? Sorry for my lack of specificity, I have no experience with Chromium. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
