Re: OT: Answering your own question (Was: Clamav update failed)

2013-02-24 Thread Alois Mahdal
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:58:32 +1300
Chris Bannister  wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 08:14:04PM +0100, Alois Mahdal wrote:
> > I think that even if you actually knew the answer before you
> > asked, it's still better for community to "pretend" that you
> > ask and answer than to keep it all to yourself.
> 
> Are you serious?
> Imagine the thousands of posts like, "What does uname -a
> produce" etc, etc, etc. debian-user is primarily a support
> ML. I suggest wiki.debian.org for a knowledge collection
> place.

Oh, I was just trying to counter that mood of "probably not
a good form so I should not post".

However, I think I know what you mean and I must admit that my
post must have sounded a little naïve.  I definitely do not
think that this should be the front line and I'm not using it
like that.

TL;DR:

However, I sometimes (actually more often than not) happen
to experience what IIRC is called "rubber ducky" effect.

First I have problem with something, then I start composing
question, and since I always try to add as much useful
*verified* info as possible and call things correct names,
I often find myself actually answering the question
myself.  Typically at the phase of verification, i.e.
before I hit "Send".

Now if the reason why I had the issue was really only my
tired brain, or a stupid typo, or some form of `man`- or
Google- blindness, I refrain from sending anything, no
matter how much time I spent on it.  And I did not mean to
encourage the opposite in any way.

However, at times reason might not be so foolish, sometimes
it's something that is confusing or wrong in available
sources. Then, I do not see reason why not to post.  Of
course having the answer prepared in advance.

I was just trying to say that "probably not a good form" in
OP's sense is not a good reason by itself.

> And there's the rub ... who is going to moderate??
> If you prefer forums, ...

I hate traditional forums.  For me, StackExchange network and
the likes is something completely different.  Mostly thanks to
the semantic level and the "wiki-style", allowing maintenance
by community.


> ...there is ask.debian.net

How come I did not know about that one? :) Thanks, I'll
definitely have a close look.


Thanks,
aL

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Re: OT: Answering your own question (Was: Clamav update failed)

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 08:14:04PM +0100, Alois Mahdal wrote:
> I think that even if you actually knew the answer before you
> asked, it's still better for community to "pretend" that you
> ask and answer than to keep it all to yourself.

Are you serious?
Imagine the thousands of posts like, "What does uname -a produce"
etc, etc, etc. debian-user is primarily a support ML. I suggest 
wiki.debian.org for a knowledge collection place. 

> (BTW, as a PoC example this principle is actually encouraged
> at StackExchange forums; when posting the question, you have
> an "answer your question" checkbox that adds Answer field to
> the form so you can answer your own question right away!  As
> long as it's helpful, readable ...

And there's the rub ... who is going to moderate??
If you prefer forums, there is ask.debian.net

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OT: Answering your own question (Was: Clamav update failed)

2013-02-24 Thread Alois Mahdal
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:52:09 +
Sharon Kimble  wrote:

> It seems to be bad form to reply to your own email but the
> answer is  

No, no, no... it's the opposite.  Nice of you to share the
solution, Sharon!  Thank you!

I think that even if you actually knew the answer before you
asked, it's still better for community to "pretend" that you
ask and answer than to keep it all to yourself.  Many of us
(or even yourself in the future) could face the same issue;
and mailing list archive is good place to keep notes.

(BTW, as a PoC example this principle is actually encouraged
at StackExchange forums; when posting the question, you have
an "answer your question" checkbox that adds Answer field to
the form so you can answer your own question right away!  As
long as it's helpful, readable and on-topic, you get the
reputation points as a reward (voting system).  I don't see
why this should not apply to mailing list.)

Thanks,
aL.

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Re: Clamav update failed

2013-02-24 Thread Sharon Kimble
It seems to be bad form to reply to your own email but the answer is 
delete/rename /var/lib/clamav/daily.cld and mirrors.dat. This forces clamav
to redownload them, which should be working okay then.

According to #clamav on irc.freenode.net there were some problems at clamav
HQ about ten days ago, which caused this problem.

Keep warm :)
Sharon.


On 24 February 2013 10:33, Sharon Kimble  wrote:

> I have been unable to update my clamav for the last three days, with
> this appearing in logcheck;-
> #
>  Last ClamAV update process started at Fri Feb 22 23:18:44 2013
>
>  Last Status:
> main.cvd is up to date (version: 54, sigs: 1044387, f-level: 60,
> builder: sven) WARNING: Can't get information about
> http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service not known WARNING: getpatch:
> Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from http://clamav.anlx.net/ WARNING:
> Can't get information about http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service
> not known WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from
> http://clamav.anlx.net/ WARNING: Can't get information about
> http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service not known WARNING: getpatch:
> Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from http://clamav.anlx.net/ WARNING:
> Can't get information about http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service
> not known WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from
> http://clamav.anlx.net/ ERROR: Can't get information about
> http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service not known ERROR: getpatch:
> Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from http://clamav.anlx.net/ WARNING:
> Incremental update failed, trying to download daily.cvd ERROR: Can't
> get information about http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service not
> known ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from http://clamav.anlx.net/
> Update failed. Your network may be down or none of the mirrors listed
> in /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf is working. Check
> http://www.clamav.net/support/mirror-problem for possible reasons.
> #
> So I’ve done 'freshclam -v' which gives this, before I cut it off as
> its unending.
> #
>  freshclam -v
> Current working dir is /var/lib/clamav
> Max retries == 5
> ClamAV update process started at Sat Feb 23 13:02:11 2013
> Using IPv6 aware code
> Querying current.cvd.clamav.net
> TTL: 529
> Software version from DNS: 0.97.6
> main.cvd version from DNS: 54
> main.cvd is up to date (version: 54, sigs: 1044387, f-level: 60,
> builder: sven) daily.cvd version from DNS: 16726
> Retrieving http://db.local.clamav.net/daily-16682.cdiff
> Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has connected too many times with an
> outdated version) Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many
> times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 193.1.193.64 (has
> connected too many times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror
> 81.91.100.173 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
> Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has connected too many times with an
> outdated version) Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many
> times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 193.1.193.64 (has
> connected too many times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror
> 81.91.100.173 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
> WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from
> db.local.clamav.net Retrieving
> http://db.local.clamav.net/daily-16682.cdiff Ignoring mirror
> 193.1.193.64 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
> Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many times with an
> outdated version) Ignoring mirror 81.91.100.173 (has connected too many
> times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has
> connected too many times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror
> 193.1.193.64 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
> Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many times with an
> outdated version) Ignoring mirror 81.91.100.173 (has connected too many
> times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has
> connected too many times with an outdated version) WARNING: getpatch:
> Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.local.clamav.net Retrieving
> http://db.local.clamav.net/daily-16682.cdiff Ignoring mirror
> 193.1.193.64 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
> Ignoring mirror 81.91.100.173 (has connected too many times with an
> outdated version) Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many
> times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has
> connected too many times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror
> 193.1.193.64 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
> Ignoring mirror 81.91.100.173 (has connected too many times with an
> outdated version) Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many
> times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has
> connected too many times w

Clamav update failed

2013-02-24 Thread Sharon Kimble
I have been unable to update my clamav for the last three days, with
this appearing in logcheck;-
#
 Last ClamAV update process started at Fri Feb 22 23:18:44 2013

 Last Status:
main.cvd is up to date (version: 54, sigs: 1044387, f-level: 60,
builder: sven) WARNING: Can't get information about
http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service not known WARNING: getpatch:
Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from http://clamav.anlx.net/ WARNING:
Can't get information about http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service
not known WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from
http://clamav.anlx.net/ WARNING: Can't get information about
http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service not known WARNING: getpatch:
Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from http://clamav.anlx.net/ WARNING:
Can't get information about http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service
not known WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from
http://clamav.anlx.net/ ERROR: Can't get information about
http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service not known ERROR: getpatch:
Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from http://clamav.anlx.net/ WARNING:
Incremental update failed, trying to download daily.cvd ERROR: Can't
get information about http://clamav.anlx.net/: Name or service not
known ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from http://clamav.anlx.net/
Update failed. Your network may be down or none of the mirrors listed
in /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf is working. Check
http://www.clamav.net/support/mirror-problem for possible reasons.
#
So I’ve done 'freshclam -v' which gives this, before I cut it off as
its unending.
#
 freshclam -v
Current working dir is /var/lib/clamav
Max retries == 5
ClamAV update process started at Sat Feb 23 13:02:11 2013
Using IPv6 aware code
Querying current.cvd.clamav.net
TTL: 529
Software version from DNS: 0.97.6
main.cvd version from DNS: 54
main.cvd is up to date (version: 54, sigs: 1044387, f-level: 60,
builder: sven) daily.cvd version from DNS: 16726
Retrieving http://db.local.clamav.net/daily-16682.cdiff
Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has connected too many times with an
outdated version) Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many
times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 193.1.193.64 (has
connected too many times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror
81.91.100.173 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has connected too many times with an
outdated version) Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many
times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 193.1.193.64 (has
connected too many times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror
81.91.100.173 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from
db.local.clamav.net Retrieving
http://db.local.clamav.net/daily-16682.cdiff Ignoring mirror
193.1.193.64 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many times with an
outdated version) Ignoring mirror 81.91.100.173 (has connected too many
times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has
connected too many times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror
193.1.193.64 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many times with an
outdated version) Ignoring mirror 81.91.100.173 (has connected too many
times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has
connected too many times with an outdated version) WARNING: getpatch:
Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.local.clamav.net Retrieving
http://db.local.clamav.net/daily-16682.cdiff Ignoring mirror
193.1.193.64 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
Ignoring mirror 81.91.100.173 (has connected too many times with an
outdated version) Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many
times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has
connected too many times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror
193.1.193.64 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
Ignoring mirror 81.91.100.173 (has connected too many times with an
outdated version) Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many
times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has
connected too many times with an outdated version) WARNING: getpatch:
Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.local.clamav.net Retrieving
http://db.local.clamav.net/daily-16682.cdiff Ignoring mirror
193.1.193.64 (has connected too many times with an outdated version)
Ignoring mirror 217.135.32.99 (has connected too many times with an
outdated version) Ignoring mirror 81.91.100.173 (has connected too many
times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror 163.1.3.8 (has
connected too many times with an outdated version) Ignoring mirror
193.1.193.64 (has connected too many times wit