Re: Configuring Gnome fallback
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:02:51 -0400 Frank debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: On 16/10/11 03:43 PM, Joe wrote: It begins to look as if someone has managed to reinvent Windows... I shouldn't laugh, my particular sid has eight bugs stopping the Gnome upgrade, so my joy is yet to come. Good luck with that :) OK, I'm definitely not laughing now. I let it go, and it installed a fair amount of Gnome 3, without bothering with gdm3. When I got it started, it sneered at me for not being having a good enough karma to be allowed to run Gnome 3, and left me with something that research suggests might be a Gnome 2 desktop. It is, however, missing almost everything that was in my old Gnome, and seems to have roughly the functionality of ratpoison. (No criticism of ratpoison, I have played with it and it does what it says on the tin, but Gnome is supposedly a 'desktop environment'.) 'GNOME 3 takes elegance to a new level'. Well, I wouldn't know. 'It is our primary focus to build a modern operating environment, platform, and user experience. It doesn't make sense to target the hardware of the past.' So it *is* Windows, then. 'Experience' is a dead giveaway. Sorry, I'm not buying a new computer. A medium serious Gigabyte motherboard, about two years old, by the way, years of life left in it yet. Though apparently not in partnership with Gnome. How to win friends and influence people... I'll be spending the rest of the evening trying to make this heap of junk functional again. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111017200820.3491b...@jretrading.com
Re: Configuring Gnome fallback
On 17/10/11 03:08 PM, Joe wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:02:51 -0400 Frankdebianl...@videotron.ca wrote: On 16/10/11 03:43 PM, Joe wrote: It begins to look as if someone has managed to reinvent Windows... I shouldn't laugh, my particular sid has eight bugs stopping the Gnome upgrade, so my joy is yet to come. Good luck with that :) OK, I'm definitely not laughing now. I let it go, and it installed a fair amount of Gnome 3, without bothering with gdm3. When I got it started, it sneered at me for not being having a good enough karma to be allowed to run Gnome 3, and left me with something that research suggests might be a Gnome 2 desktop. It is, however, missing almost everything that was in my old Gnome, //snip// How to win friends and influence people... I'll be spending the rest of the evening trying to make this heap of junk functional again. Well it has been 4 or is it 5 days since the switch to 3 started on this sid system..and , while it sort of resembles my old gnome desktop (if you squint and ignore much stuff) it seems it's gonna be awhile before it is what I'd consider completely functional. Then again, we are running the UNSTABLE version of Debian :) By the way, the gnome-tweak tool sort of configure gnome3...but usually gnome ignores what you've changed. I am going to file a bug as soon as I figure out what's going on. -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e9c80f5.4030...@videotron.ca
Re: Configuring Gnome fallback
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:37 -0400, Frank wrote: On 17/10/11 03:08 PM, Joe wrote: (...) How to win friends and influence people... I'll be spending the rest of the evening trying to make this heap of junk functional again. Well it has been 4 or is it 5 days since the switch to 3 started on this sid system..and , while it sort of resembles my old gnome desktop (if you squint and ignore much stuff) it seems it's gonna be awhile before it is what I'd consider completely functional. Then again, we are running the UNSTABLE version of Debian :) Very true... and the current upstream GNOME stable version is now 3.2, 3.0 release can nowadays be considered obsolete and a thing of the past :-P By the way, the gnome-tweak tool sort of configure gnome3...but usually gnome ignores what you've changed. I am going to file a bug as soon as I figure out what's going on. I'll install gnome-shell as soon as reaches wheezy because of that precisely reason: testing to help GNOME to be more polished in Debian and fill lots of bugs reports because I'm sure Debian devels _love_ receiving bugs (hope you can sense the irony behind these words :-)...). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.17.21.41...@gmail.com
Configuring Gnome fallback
After many upgrades my Gome3 system is sort of up :) The problem is all the menus in both Gnome 3 and Gnome-fallback are in black and white and the gnome-control-center doesn't offer the option to change anything. Is this just an early missing feature or do I need to install something else. I have already replaced GDM with GDM 3 and I think everything else is in place. -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e9b235c.2040...@videotron.ca
Re: Configuring Gnome fallback
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:33:00 -0400, Frank wrote: After many upgrades my Gome3 system is sort of up :) The problem is all the menus in both Gnome 3 and Gnome-fallback are in black and white and the gnome-control-center doesn't offer the option to change anything. Is this just an early missing feature or do I need to install something else. I have already replaced GDM with GDM 3 and I think everything else is in place. Try by installing the gnome-tweak-tool package (this package is a must to customize GNOME3) and change the theme from there... not sure if it works under fallback mode, I hope it does :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.16.19.08...@gmail.com
Re: Configuring Gnome fallback
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:08:50 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:33:00 -0400, Frank wrote: After many upgrades my Gome3 system is sort of up :) The problem is all the menus in both Gnome 3 and Gnome-fallback are in black and white and the gnome-control-center doesn't offer the option to change anything. Is this just an early missing feature or do I need to install something else. I have already replaced GDM with GDM 3 and I think everything else is in place. Try by installing the gnome-tweak-tool package (this package is a must to customize GNOME3) and change the theme from there... not sure if it works under fallback mode, I hope it does :-? Alternatively, try not installing GNOME. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j7fau1$ova$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Configuring Gnome fallback
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:08:50 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:33:00 -0400, Frank wrote: After many upgrades my Gome3 system is sort of up :) The problem is all the menus in both Gnome 3 and Gnome-fallback are in black and white and the gnome-control-center doesn't offer the option to change anything. Is this just an early missing feature or do I need to install something else. I have already replaced GDM with GDM 3 and I think everything else is in place. Try by installing the gnome-tweak-tool package (this package is a must to customize GNOME3) and change the theme from there... not sure if it works under fallback mode, I hope it does :-? It begins to look as if someone has managed to reinvent Windows... I shouldn't laugh, my particular sid has eight bugs stopping the Gnome upgrade, so my joy is yet to come. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111016204344.6b45b...@jretrading.com
Re: Configuring Gnome fallback
On 16/10/11 03:08 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:33:00 -0400, Frank wrote: After many upgrades my Gome3 system is sort of up :) The problem is all the menus in both Gnome 3 and Gnome-fallback are in black and white and the gnome-control-center doesn't offer the option to change anything. Is this just an early missing feature or do I need to install something else. I have already replaced GDM with GDM 3 and I think everything else is in place. Try by installing the gnome-tweak-tool package (this package is a must to customize GNOME3) and change the theme from there... not sure if it works under fallback mode, I hope it does :-? Works (I am tempted to say like a charm) but I've just started.:) Thanks...Camaleón usually comes through! -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e9b3811.1020...@videotron.ca
Re: Configuring Gnome fallback
On 16/10/11 03:22 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:08:50 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:33:00 -0400, Frank wrote: After many upgrades my Gome3 system is sort of up :) The problem is all the menus in both Gnome 3 and Gnome-fallback are in black and white and the gnome-control-center doesn't offer the option to change anything. Is this just an early missing feature or do I need to install something else. I have already replaced GDM with GDM 3 and I think everything else is in place. Try by installing the gnome-tweak-tool package (this package is a must to customize GNOME3) and change the theme from there... not sure if it works under fallback mode, I hope it does :-? Alternatively, try not installing GNOME. I don't usually use Gnome (alternatives are Fluxbox and IceWm) but I must confess I was tempted by 3. -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e9b384e.40...@videotron.ca
Re: Configuring Gnome fallback
On 16/10/11 03:43 PM, Joe wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:08:50 + (UTC) Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:33:00 -0400, Frank wrote: After many upgrades my Gome3 system is sort of up :) The problem is all the menus in both Gnome 3 and Gnome-fallback are in black and white and the gnome-control-center doesn't offer the option to change anything. Is this just an early missing feature or do I need to install something else. I have already replaced GDM with GDM 3 and I think everything else is in place. Try by installing the gnome-tweak-tool package (this package is a must to customize GNOME3) and change the theme from there... not sure if it works under fallback mode, I hope it does :-? It begins to look as if someone has managed to reinvent Windows... I shouldn't laugh, my particular sid has eight bugs stopping the Gnome upgrade, so my joy is yet to come. Good luck with that :) -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e9b386b.7060...@videotron.ca
Re: Configuring Gnome fallback
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:02:22 -0400, Frank wrote: On 16/10/11 03:22 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:08:50 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:33:00 -0400, Frank wrote: After many upgrades my Gome3 system is sort of up :) The problem is all the menus in both Gnome 3 and Gnome-fallback are in black and white and the gnome-control-center doesn't offer the option to change anything. Is this just an early missing feature or do I need to install something else. I have already replaced GDM with GDM 3 and I think everything else is in place. Try by installing the gnome-tweak-tool package (this package is a must to customize GNOME3) and change the theme from there... not sure if it works under fallback mode, I hope it does :-? Alternatively, try not installing GNOME. I don't usually use Gnome (alternatives are Fluxbox and IceWm) but I must confess I was tempted by 3. My preferred alternatives are LXDE and Openbox, but as ever, YMMV. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j7ffu9$nm4$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Configuring Gnome fallback
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:48:09 + (UTC) Walter Hurry walterhu...@lavabit.com wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:02:22 -0400, Frank wrote: On 16/10/11 03:22 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:08:50 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:33:00 -0400, Frank wrote: After many upgrades my Gome3 system is sort of up :) The problem is all the menus in both Gnome 3 and Gnome-fallback are in black and white and the gnome-control-center doesn't offer the option to change anything. Is this just an early missing feature or do I need to install something else. I have already replaced GDM with GDM 3 and I think everything else is in place. Try by installing the gnome-tweak-tool package (this package is a must to customize GNOME3) and change the theme from there... not sure if it works under fallback mode, I hope it does :-? Alternatively, try not installing GNOME. I don't usually use Gnome (alternatives are Fluxbox and IceWm) but I must confess I was tempted by 3. My preferred alternatives are LXDE and Openbox, but as ever, YMMV. I'm using gnome3 on my laptop, its a pain as you has to load all the extras to get it to perform as something reasonable. I tried LXDE and if something could be sorted with the menus it would be a good alternative, but most of the everyday apps are gnome apps which is also a pain. Why anyone would like it to look like windows I dont understand, unless it a case of insanity. I'm not sure if SID has all the extras and addons for gnome3, worth checking. The worst thin with it is if you move the mouse pointer towards the TLH corner, it assumes you are going to click on applications to minimise. Also in the TLH of most of the apps that have menus is a pulldown, so as you go to access the pulldown the damn thing minimises. Sorry mini rant -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com or richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Debian Wheezy amd64 on a Dual core AMD Athlon 5200, 4 GB RAM Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111016233109.363af...@debian.g8jvm.com
