Re: Consistent mouse and scrollbar behavior in X?
On 10/12/2013 12:11 PM, Clive Standbridge wrote: You need to rebuild emacs to achieve that. This note from /usr/share/doc/emacs23-common/README.Debian.gz is the key: If you prefer the old-style, non-toolkit scrollbars, just edit debian/rules to add --without-toolkit-scrollbars where indicated and rebuild. The splendid Debian Reference has a guide to rebuilding packages: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_porting_a_package_to_the_stable_system - Make sure you set the deb-src line to the same release as you're using (because you're not doing a backport). - Before the build step, add the following lines in debian/rules at the appropriate places: confflags_x += --without-toolkit-scroll-bars confflags_lucid += --without-toolkit-scroll-bars Allow plenty of time for the build. My notes say 42min to build emacs23 on a 3GHz P4. Clive, I'm sorry it took me so long, but thank you very much for your reply. I finally got time to try it tonight and it wasn't even difficult. It did take a while to compile, though. I just tried it and I have working scroll bars back! I'm going to have to do the same thing on my work machine. much less make it standard across all X programs. Is this possible? Ideally scroll bar behaviour would be a window manager function, but as you've observed, it seems to be built into each application. This seems like a remarkably poor design. Did you know that xterm has the same scrollbar behaviour? Unlike every other terminal emulator that I'm aware of. I don't have scrollbars on my xterms, but I'll give it a try. Thank you again! Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53117334.5030...@yahoo.com
Re: Consistent mouse and scrollbar behavior in X?
Hello Brian, Clicking on scrollbars does different things with different applications. In Emacs, the following used to be standard: - left click: one screenful down - right click: one screenful up - middle click: jump to where you clicked Better than that, the left and right click scroll by an amount proportional to how far down the bar you click it. Viewed another way, left click moves the line from the cursor position to the top of the window, right click moves the top line to the cursor position. It is (was) really well thought out. [...] I did some web searching to try to fix this. I found how to move my scrollbar in emacs back over to the left, instead of on the right (set-scroll-bar-mode 'left), but I haven't found a way to get my old mouse behavior back in emacs, You need to rebuild emacs to achieve that. This note from /usr/share/doc/emacs23-common/README.Debian.gz is the key: If you prefer the old-style, non-toolkit scrollbars, just edit debian/rules to add --without-toolkit-scrollbars where indicated and rebuild. The splendid Debian Reference has a guide to rebuilding packages: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_porting_a_package_to_the_stable_system - Make sure you set the deb-src line to the same release as you're using (because you're not doing a backport). - Before the build step, add the following lines in debian/rules at the appropriate places: confflags_x += --without-toolkit-scroll-bars confflags_lucid += --without-toolkit-scroll-bars Allow plenty of time for the build. My notes say 42min to build emacs23 on a 3GHz P4. much less make it standard across all X programs. Is this possible? Ideally scroll bar behaviour would be a window manager function, but as you've observed, it seems to be built into each application. [...] Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. Did you know that xterm has the same scrollbar behaviour? Unlike every other terminal emulator that I'm aware of. -- Cheers, Clive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131012191104.GA9669@rimmer.localdomain
Consistent mouse and scrollbar behavior in X?
Hello, Clicking on scrollbars does different things with different applications. In Emacs, the following used to be standard: - left click: one screenful down - right click: one screenful up - middle click: jump to where you clicked In emacs now (emacs-24 with gtk+), the mouse scrolling is quite poor. Left click jumps the scrollbar to the place you clicked, but the buffer text doesn't change. In evince, left and right click do exactly the same thing, jump to the point where you clicked. However, in xpdf, left click takes you down (or up) one screenful and middle click jumps to the point. I did some web searching to try to fix this. I found how to move my scrollbar in emacs back over to the left, instead of on the right (set-scroll-bar-mode 'left), but I haven't found a way to get my old mouse behavior back in emacs, much less make it standard across all X programs. Is this possible? The fact that xpdf and evince behave so differently suggests one uniform system may be difficult to achieve. BTW, I'm using the i3 window manager on Debian unstable. Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52583922.3040...@yahoo.com
