Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
Dne, 30. 03. 2011 07:14:49 je Joel Roth napisal(a): On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:59:42PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: Now that I have snownews working (thanks Freeman!) I'm finding that liferea turns out to be *very* good too, and maybe my favorite. +1 Plus, it comes preconfigured with debian-planet and other interesting feeds. Of course, it's not a console app. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1301466960.25690.1@compax
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:36:00 +0200 Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Dne, 30. 03. 2011 07:14:49 je Joel Roth napisal(a): On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:59:42PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: Now that I have snownews working (thanks Freeman!) I'm finding that liferea turns out to be *very* good too, and maybe my favorite. +1 Plus, it comes preconfigured with debian-planet and other interesting feeds. Of course, it's not a console app. I use Liferea heavily, and I've even filed a number of bugs against it. I quite like it, but I'm unhappy with its very heavy resource usage when updating (I do have a fair number of feeds). Is this a fact of life with all feed readers, or poor coding in Liferea? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110330084454.3ad16d61.cele...@gmail.com
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
Dne, 30. 03. 2011 14:44:54 je Celejar napisal(a): Is this a fact of life with all feed readers, or poor coding in Liferea? Poor coding *is* a fact of life ... ;) -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1301490281.25690.4@compax
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 07:27:58PM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 14:27, Freeman hew...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:02:51PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: I'm having trouble getting snownews to accept an atom feed. I found an atom-to-rss converter here: http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews/snowscripts/extensions/script/atom2rss/ Here is test code for a filter: curl http://blogs.perl.org/atom.xml | xsltproc ~/.snownews/atom2rss.xml - This gives me an RDF document (see below, items pruned to one) Now I try to do this in snownews entry for the URL using the 'e' command. Re-reading the feed with 'r' shows nothing, although there's a delay that suggests content was downloaded, if nothing else. It has been years and I only have one atom feed left Left? I have more Atom feeds than ever. And if you add in those weird RSS+Atom feeds that feedburner and other produce, I hardly have any RSS feeds left (thank goodness). Such it is. I had thought, from a brief exchange with the author about a feed which never worked, that a filter is needed for any atom feed. But I only applied filters to problem feeds and never looked farther into it. I won't be switching from snownews till I have to pry my cold dead fingers off of it. Why is that? I never used it, but I use Newsbeuter, and they seem pretty comparable. Mainly, I have been highly satisified for 4 years with its fast, minimal intereface and light resource usage. e.g., you can issue a command when you find it in the help menu rather than quiting the help menu first. The whole interface seems to work in that clean, minimal-key-presses way. Midori and elinks supliment it well and I have it switching between them on whether I am in X. I find it sensible too. Probably a personal predisposition. For example, there is something about the logic of Opera's interface that forever defies me (even though I was using it on Win98 when it debued at a price around $29 plus upgrade charges.) So I use a plethora of other options that work along the lines I am anticipating. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTin@yeyfmjtajh0auk+9p0bd9cgpqy7y-r0...@mail.gmail.com -- Regards, Freeman Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer. --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110330192151.GA30959@Europa.office
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 07:27:58PM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: Why is that? I never used it, but I use Newsbeuter, and they seem pretty comparable. Newsbeuter had been my second choice but I don't remember it 4 years ago so I installed. Lunch break is well over and I haven't read a single thing but here are some usage points that are key-press options I like in snownews. *Not* a criticism of Newsbeuter, just an impression. 1. Newsbeuter comes up asking for a URL file or an OPML import. Snownews just opens the first time and one can start adding and deleting with key-press commands. 2. Newsbeuter doesn't show me a key-press way to categorize. Evidently I must edit the URL file with tags. 3. Newsbeuter doesn't show me a way to edit the title so maybe I have to trust the source to not send BS or long titles. 4. Newsbeuter doesn't show me a way to arrange things into the exact order I want to read them, just sort by criteria. 5. Newsbeuter doesn't show me a headlines *only* view. In snownews, my news feeds are arranged by preference in descending order. The headlines only view then displays in that same order, making a very fast news hit for on the fly. -- Regards, Freeman Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer. --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110330195521.GA4527@Europa.office
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:04:41 +0200 Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Dne, 30. 03. 2011 14:44:54 je Celejar napisal(a): Is this a fact of life with all feed readers, or poor coding in Liferea? Poor coding *is* a fact of life ... ;) ;) Fair enough, but I meant to ask whether the problem (downloading and parsing XML feeds) is inherently quite this resource intensive, or whether Liferea is doing something wrong? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110330170345.de547636.cele...@gmail.com
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On 2011-03-29, Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote: I'm having trouble getting snownews to accept an atom feed. I found an atom-to-rss converter here: http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews/snowscripts/extensions/script/atom2rss/ Here is test code for a filter: curl http://blogs.perl.org/atom.xml | xsltproc ~/.snownews/atom2rss.xml - This gives me an RDF document (see below, items pruned to one) Now I try to do this in snownews entry for the URL using the 'e' command. Re-reading the feed with 'r' shows nothing, although there's a delay that suggests content was downloaded, if nothing else. (Canto would be my next choice, except that the default colors suck, and I'm having trouble finding a suitable terminal and locale.) Since the removal of snownews from squeeze I have migrated to newsbeuter. It 'feels' very similar to snownews, can read RSS and Atom feeds, and can connect to a Google Reader account -- Liam O'Toole Cork, Ireland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnip376j.20h.liam.p.otoole@dipsy.tubbynet
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Lu, 28 mar 11, 14:02:51, Joel Roth wrote: ... References: 20110328141007.ge1...@digitaltorque.ca imqbi1$mah$1...@dough.gmane.org 4d90bfd1.1000...@affinityvision.com.au imqkpf$j06$1...@dough.gmane.org 4d90e5f8.2010...@cox.net ... In-Reply-To: 4d90e5f8.2010...@cox.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Do yourself a favor and use 'm' not 'L' to start a new thread. An alias like alias d-u Debian-User debian-user@lists.debian.org will save you the typing of the entire e-mail address. AFAIU it is possible to make a whole thread disappear from the default view, which means some people might not see your mail at all. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:02:51PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: I'm having trouble getting snownews to accept an atom feed. I found an atom-to-rss converter here: http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews/snowscripts/extensions/script/atom2rss/ Here is test code for a filter: curl http://blogs.perl.org/atom.xml | xsltproc ~/.snownews/atom2rss.xml - This gives me an RDF document (see below, items pruned to one) Now I try to do this in snownews entry for the URL using the 'e' command. Re-reading the feed with 'r' shows nothing, although there's a delay that suggests content was downloaded, if nothing else. It has been years and I only have one atom feed left (which hasn't had new articles in a year since they changed to xml, as it turns out (how much I read conservative blogs)). My line in ~/.snownews/urls : http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/atom.xml||Blog|xsltproc /home/freeman/.snownews/xsltproc - Also, http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/atom.xml||Blog|xsltproc seems to work now although I don't think it did when I set it up. I won't be switching from snownews till I have to pry my cold dead fingers off of it. -- Regards, Freeman Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer. --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110329212737.GA3044@Deneb.office
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:51:49PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Lu, 28 mar 11, 14:02:51, Joel Roth wrote: ... References: 20110328141007.ge1...@digitaltorque.ca imqbi1$mah$1...@dough.gmane.org 4d90bfd1.1000...@affinityvision.com.au imqkpf$j06$1...@dough.gmane.org 4d90e5f8.2010...@cox.net ... In-Reply-To: 4d90e5f8.2010...@cox.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Do yourself a favor and use 'm' not 'L' to start a new thread. An alias like alias d-u Debian-User debian-user@lists.debian.org will save you the typing of the entire e-mail address. AFAIU it is possible to make a whole thread disappear from the default view, which means some people might not see your mail at all. Yeah it was a mistake, I realized when I saw something like Re:. in the Mutt display. Thanks for the hint! Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110330005112.GB18786@sprite
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:27:37PM -0700, Freeman wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:02:51PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: I'm having trouble getting snownews to accept an atom feed. I found an atom-to-rss converter here: http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews/snowscripts/extensions/script/atom2rss/ Here is test code for a filter: curl http://blogs.perl.org/atom.xml | xsltproc ~/.snownews/atom2rss.xml - This gives me an RDF document (see below, items pruned to one) Now I try to do this in snownews entry for the URL using the 'e' command. Re-reading the feed with 'r' shows nothing, although there's a delay that suggests content was downloaded, if nothing else. It has been years and I only have one atom feed left (which hasn't had new articles in a year since they changed to xml, as it turns out (how much I read conservative blogs)). My line in ~/.snownews/urls : http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/atom.xml||Blog|xsltproc /home/freeman/.snownews/xsltproc - Okay, I'll try that. Also, http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/atom.xml||Blog|xsltproc seems to work now although I don't think it did when I set it up. I won't be switching from snownews till I have to pry my cold dead fingers off of it. I'll see how it goes. In the meantime, I've managed to configure Canto (using rxvt-unicode and setting less horrible colors than the default blue-on-black 8-) I've also managed to figure out Sage, (Debian package xul-ext-sage) which is quite clever. Thanks! -- Regards, Freeman -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110330005942.GD18786@sprite
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 14:27, Freeman hew...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:02:51PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: I'm having trouble getting snownews to accept an atom feed. I found an atom-to-rss converter here: http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews/snowscripts/extensions/script/atom2rss/ Here is test code for a filter: curl http://blogs.perl.org/atom.xml | xsltproc ~/.snownews/atom2rss.xml - This gives me an RDF document (see below, items pruned to one) Now I try to do this in snownews entry for the URL using the 'e' command. Re-reading the feed with 'r' shows nothing, although there's a delay that suggests content was downloaded, if nothing else. It has been years and I only have one atom feed left Left? I have more Atom feeds than ever. And if you add in those weird RSS+Atom feeds that feedburner and other produce, I hardly have any RSS feeds left (thank goodness). I won't be switching from snownews till I have to pry my cold dead fingers off of it. Why is that? I never used it, but I use Newsbeuter, and they seem pretty comparable. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTin@yeyfmjtajh0auk+9p0bd9cgpqy7y-r0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:59:42PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: Now that I have snownews working (thanks Freeman!) I'm finding that liferea turns out to be *very* good too, and maybe my favorite. -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110330051449.GA20663@sprite
Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
I'm having trouble getting snownews to accept an atom feed. I found an atom-to-rss converter here: http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews/snowscripts/extensions/script/atom2rss/ Here is test code for a filter: curl http://blogs.perl.org/atom.xml | xsltproc ~/.snownews/atom2rss.xml - This gives me an RDF document (see below, items pruned to one) Now I try to do this in snownews entry for the URL using the 'e' command. Re-reading the feed with 'r' shows nothing, although there's a delay that suggests content was downloaded, if nothing else. (Canto would be my next choice, except that the default colors suck, and I'm having trouble finding a suitable terminal and locale.) Thanks. Joel ?xml version=1.0? rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf=http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#; xmlns:atom=http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom; xmlns:dc=http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/; xmlns=http://purl.org/rss/1.0/; channel rdf:about= titleblogs.perl.org/title linkhttp://blogs.perl.org//link description/ items rdf:Seq rdf:li rdf:resource=tag:blogs.perl.org,2011:/users/nigel_metheringham//474.1597/ /rdf:Seq /items /channel item rdf:about=tag:blogs.perl.org,2011:/users/nigel_metheringham//474.1597 titleHTML::Scrubber maintainership/title linkhttp://blogs.perl.org/users/nigel_metheringham/2011/03/htmlscrubber-maintainership.html/link dc:creatorNigel Metheringham/dc:creator description![CDATA[pa href=http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?HTML::Scrubber;HTML::Scrubber/a appears unmaintained at present, and I cannot find a way to contact the author (podmaster) - email bounces and I cannot see any activity later than 2006./p pIf you know a means to contact strongpodmaster/strong aka strongD. H./strong then I'd appreciate it if you could put us in touch so I can see if he would be open to an offer of co-maintainership or handing the module over.br / /p]]/description /item /rdf:RDF -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110329000251.GA3650@sprite
