Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-05-19 Thread The Thought Assassin
On Mon, 11 May 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 On Mon, 11 May 1998, The Thought Assassin wrote:
 : On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 :  I've got a Sun Netra I5, with serial console only.  The current Debian
 :  boot disks don't like the serial console, so I used RedHat's instead.
 : Boot floppies are very customizable.
 The problem is with init on the boot disk, not the kernel.

Can't you doctor the boot disk to use the serial port instead of tty1?
Are the sparc bootdisks that different from all the others?

-Greg


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Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-05-12 Thread Rainer Clasen
Nathan E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I've got a Sun Netra I5, with serial console only.  The current Debian
 boot disks don't like the serial console, so I used RedHat's instead.
 Now I've got this Netra Linux box :)

I don't know sun at all, but how about modifying the bootdisks to spawn a
getty and the installprog on ttyS?

I tried to take a look at disks-sparc/root.bin, but (after gunzipping it) I
wasn't able to mount it - Are they somehow special? So I refer to i386's
root.bin. Indeed I never used anything else than i386, but maybe the basic
Idea applies.

root.bin doesn't contain a getty and it's init is the installation-prog. So
you need to rename init to something else, copy a real init and getty to the
disks, make an inittab. Probably this won't fit on the original image, so
you need to make a bigger one.

# pwd
/var/tmp
# zcat /pub/debian/hamm/main/disks-i386/current/root.bin  root.img
# ls -l root.img /sbin/init /sbin/getty
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root12468 Jan 24 22:48 /sbin/getty*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root24188 Apr 15 17:09 /sbin/init*
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  2662400 May 12 11:47 root.img
# set newsize=$[ ( 2662400 + 24188 + 12468 ) / 512 +1 ]
# mount root.img /oldroot -oloop
# dd if=/dev/zero of=newroot.img count=$newsize
# mkfs.blah newroot.img
# mount newroot.img /newroot -oloop
# cd /oldroot; find -depth | cpio -pmd /newroot
# cd /newroot/sbin; mv init install_prog
# cd /sbin; cp init getty /newroot/sbin
# vi /newroot/etc/inittab

and add a line like

T1:12345:respawn:/sbin/getty -m -l /sbin/install_prog -L ttyS1 9600 vt100 

# umount /newroot 
[insert an install disk in fd0]
# mount /dev/fd0 /floppy
# cp /var/tmp/newroot.bin /floppy/root.bin
# umount /floppy


This is completely untested (I hate to reboot) and as mentioned above I have
no clue regarding sun. Please let me know if this works or if it is nonsense.


Rainer

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Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-05-11 Thread The Thought Assassin
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 I've got a Sun Netra I5, with serial console only.  The current Debian
 boot disks don't like the serial console, so I used RedHat's instead.
 Now I've got this Netra Linux box :)
Is there any reason why you can't just take the kernel from the RedHat
boot floppy and put it on the Debian boot floppy?
Or even build a custom kernel from your RedHat install and put that on the
debian floppy.
Boot floppies are very customizable.

7~he 7~hought /|ssassin


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Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-05-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 11 May 1998, The Thought Assassin wrote:

: On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
:  I've got a Sun Netra I5, with serial console only.  The current Debian
:  boot disks don't like the serial console, so I used RedHat's instead.
:  Now I've got this Netra Linux box :)
: Is there any reason why you can't just take the kernel from the RedHat
: boot floppy and put it on the Debian boot floppy?
: Or even build a custom kernel from your RedHat install and put that on the
: debian floppy.
: Boot floppies are very customizable.

The problem is with init on the boot disk, not the kernel.

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Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-05-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 02:37:00PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 Now for the hashed over part.  Is there a sane and reasonable
 way to either convert an existing RedHat machine to Debian, or
 to start the Debian install from what I have now?  Remember, I
 can't use the Debian boot disk.  (I thought someone had a URL
 for this)

I did this once (but don't tell anyone because I wasn't supposed
to do that). What I did was take dpkg's package and extract its
contents using ar (.deb's are an ar file). I then extracted the
tar file (there are two tars in there, data.tar.gz and
control.tar.gz) on /. This gave me a dpkg to begin with. I
proceded to satisfy dpkg's dependencies (libc, libstdc++,
ncurses) by repeating the same procedure with the requiered
files. Please note this is VERY dangerous because you are
overwriting the libc (I did this with an RH 5 installation) and
many programs may break due to some sloppyness in RH. To get
dpkg working you have to touch some files (I cann't tell this by
heart) in /var/lib/dpkg. You also have to copy the control files
for the packages just installed. The next thing I did, as I
got a working dpkg, was install every deb in base (this
conflicts with RH boot method and some other stuff, you have to
be patient here, and it's better if you have as little RH as
possible). From here everything went very smoothly, because
after installing base/*.deb it's just like having installed
Debian using the floppies. There are some gotchas left, but
nothing big, as I remember.

I hope this helps somehow...

Marcelo

PS: As I was on a stealth mission at the time I had to do
everything as quickly as possible, and I hadn't the chance to
take notes; maybe you can take some and share the results?


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Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-05-01 Thread Joel Klecker
At 14:37 -0500 1998-04-29, Nathan E Norman wrote:
Now for the hashed over part.  Is there a sane and reasonable way to
either convert an existing RedHat machine to Debian, or to start the
Debian install from what I have now?

project/experimental/dpkg_*_arch.nondebbin.tar.gz

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Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-05-01 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Nathan E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I've got a Sun Netra I5, with serial console only.  The current Debian
 boot disks don't like the serial console, so I used RedHat's instead.
 Now I've got this Netra Linux box :)

AFAIK there is enhanced serial console support in 2.1.*. But don't forget,
2.1 is unstable!


I have no experience with Suns at all, but Maybe you can try this:

make a standard debian bootdisk

use your RedHat system to compile a 2.1 kernel with console support

and either

replace the bootdisk's kernel with this one

make the disks bootloader pass the necessary parameters for the
serial console

or 

install the kernel on your system

copy the disks root image to your system

make your bootloader (SILO?) load this image as initrd as the
bootdisks do and pass the parameters for the serial console


This is only an idea - maybe this works...

Regards
 Rainer

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Convert RedHat install to Debian ..

1998-04-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
Part of this question has been hashed over a zillion times; for that I
apologise.

I've got a Sun Netra I5, with serial console only.  The current Debian
boot disks don't like the serial console, so I used RedHat's instead.
Now I've got this Netra Linux box :)

Now for the hashed over part.  Is there a sane and reasonable way to
either convert an existing RedHat machine to Debian, or to start the
Debian install from what I have now?  Remember, I can't use the Debian
boot disk.  (I thought someone had a URL for this)

Replies, flames, etc. accepted.

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