Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
Greg == Greg Strockbine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar, Greg well, gee, its starting to sound like emacs :-) Just to make the note: emacs is able to browse tar files, even if compressed, and I believe there is also support for .debs somewhere. ---+-- Christian Lynbech | Ericsson Telebit, Fabrikvej 11, DK-8260 Viby J Fax: +45 8675 6881 | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +45 8675 6828 | web: www.ericssontelebit.com ---+-- Hit the philistines three times over the head with the Elisp reference manual. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael A. Petonic)
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
On 11 Aug 2000, Christian Lynbech on satellite wrote: Greg == Greg Strockbine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar, Greg well, gee, its starting to sound like emacs :-) Just to make the note: emacs is able to browse tar files, even if compressed, and I believe there is also support for .debs somewhere. Yes, in the editors/debview package. It was reported once that it didn't work with emacs v20, but I (the debview author) just tried and it seems to work fine. ...RickM...
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
On Sun, Aug 06, 2000 at 12:35:07AM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: And that GNU Midnight Commander (aka mc aka gmc) had a similar functionality. This is a tool which, as I understand, was adapted from Novell's Midnight Commander file browsing utility. It escapes me why you seem to be associating the GNU MC with Novell? GNU MC, which i know and use since some five years, IMHO never had any relations with Novell. It's look and feel were based on the Norton Commander of DOS fame, but has surpassed it in functionality since years now. Bad memory chips. Organic. Hard to replace. I was remembering the LAN admins at a shop I worked at many moons ago who used a tool which looked a lot like gmc. I associated it with Novell (we were a Novell network), though it may have been the Norton tool. Not sure. Thanks for the clarification. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgp2MjZY9T9Fv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
Patrick Dahiroc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/08/2000 (23:57) : first make sure you lesspipe on your system run 'which lesspipe'. then put eval $(lesspipe) in your .bash_profile or in the appropriate login script for your shell. I found out (to my surprise) that /etc/profile is not read. I had to add source /etc/profile in ~/.bash_profile. It might be my fault though. I cannot remember if I copied my old bash files or not. -- Preben Randhol - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, Isaac Asimov
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/08/2000 (03:58) : add this to /etc/profile: eval `/usr/bin/lesspipe` , source it, and then less whateveryouwant.deb. Cool, isn't it? Works with .rpm, .tar.gz, .zip too. Doesn't work for me. Odd. -- Preben Randhol - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, Isaac Asimov
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
first make sure you lesspipe on your system run 'which lesspipe'. then put eval $(lesspipe) in your .bash_profile or in the appropriate login script for your shell. On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 09:19:05PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/08/2000 (03:58) : add this to /etc/profile: eval `/usr/bin/lesspipe` , source it, and then less whateveryouwant.deb. Cool, isn't it? Works with .rpm, .tar.gz, .zip too. Doesn't work for me. Odd. -- Preben Randhol - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, Isaac Asimov -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- As a general rule, if you have trouble with the binary system, then probably it is because you do not really understand the decimal system ... R.W. Hamming
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
Paul Seelig wrote: kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: And that GNU Midnight Commander (aka mc aka gmc) had a similar functionality. This is a tool which, as I understand, was adapted from Novell's Midnight Commander file browsing utility. It escapes me why you seem to be associating the GNU MC with Novell? GNU MC, which i know and use since some five years, IMHO never had any relations with Novell. It's look and feel were based on the Norton Commander of DOS fame, but has surpassed it in functionality since years now. It's a file manager on steroids, as a console tool. The Midnight Commander console version for me is the most imprescindible tool on any *NIX. The GNOME offspring is a far cry from it regarding functionality. The console MC can be considered the Swiss Linux Army Chainsaw. ;-) gmc is on the way out anyway, the console version will continue on though. For GNOME, Eazel's Nautilus file manager will replace gmc. I thought from the beginning that trying to make mc into a graphical file manager while simultaneously continuing with the console version was a mistake. For one thing, it has led to a fork in (console) mc development, something which I hope is temporary. -- It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. - Voltaire Ed C.
Cool trick: gmc and Debs
Color me clueless, but I just found something way cool. I guess I *should* have spent more time with Novell. Last night's SVLUG presentation featured a couple of guys from Eazel showing off a number of Nautalis features, including the ability to browse RPMs as if they were a mounted filesystem. Pretty slick. Talking to folks, I understood that this was supported through the GVFS -- Gnome Virtual Filesystem. And that GNU Midnight Commander (aka mc aka gmc) had a similar functionality. This is a tool which, as I understand, was adapted from Novell's Midnight Commander file browsing utility. It's a file manager on steroids, as a console tool. My question to the Eazel folks was whether or not Deb browsing was also supported. The cool hat trick: You can browse through the contents of a Deb package *.deb file) with gmc as if it were a locally mounted fileystem, without having to unarchive and untar all the constituent components. This is pretty damned sweet. Thought I'd share. If you already knew this, laugh at me. If you didn't -- well, now you do. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpW6Eav3yrEO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
Well-- The oportunity to comment here is too good to pass. I believe that mc should also be known as LSAK ( Linux Swiss Army Knife). Been an addict for years and still don't know all its tricks-:)) On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:51:54PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: Color me clueless, but I just found something way cool. I guess I *should* have spent more time with Novell. Last night's SVLUG presentation featured a couple of guys from Eazel showing off a number of Nautalis features, including the ability to browse RPMs as if they were a mounted filesystem. Pretty slick. Talking to folks, I understood that this was supported through the GVFS -- Gnome Virtual Filesystem. And that GNU Midnight Commander (aka mc aka gmc) had a similar functionality. This is a tool which, as I understand, was adapted from Novell's Midnight Commander file browsing utility. It's a file manager on steroids, as a console tool. My question to the Eazel folks was whether or not Deb browsing was also supported. The cool hat trick: You can browse through the contents of a Deb package *.deb file) with gmc as if it were a locally mounted fileystem, without having to unarchive and untar all the constituent components. This is pretty damned sweet. Thought I'd share. If you already knew this, laugh at me. If you didn't -- well, now you do. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 --
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: Color me clueless, but I just found something way cool. I guess I *should* have spent more time with Novell. snip The cool hat trick: You can browse through the contents of a Deb package *.deb file) with gmc as if it were a locally mounted fileystem, without having to unarchive and untar all the constituent components. You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar, and zip programs are all installed. Select the archive in question, and you can either: Hit F3 to view a listing of the files contained in the archive or Hit Enter to browse the archive as if it were a directory Altogether a most usefull little program. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom.
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar, well, gee, its starting to sound like emacs :-) greg s.
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:16:33PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote: You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar, and zip programs are all installed. Interestingly, though, it can't browse cpio archives. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum http://dm.net
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kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: The cool hat trick: You can browse through the contents of a Deb package *.deb file) with gmc as if it were a locally mounted fileystem, without having to unarchive and untar all the constituent components. See also the debview package: Description: Emacs mode for viewing Debian packages After installing, you can use C-D in dired mode to view the .deb file on the current line. Allows both the structure and contents of a .deb archive to be examined. -- Also, /usr/bin/lesspipe (which can be used to enhance `less') has support for deb packages, listing package description and then content, e.g. $ less xless_1.7-11.deb new debian package, version 2.0. size 17326 bytes: control archive= 1168 bytes. 439 bytes,12 lines control 593 bytes, 9 lines md5sums 644 bytes,19 lines * postinst #!/bin/sh 299 bytes, 9 lines * postrm #!/bin/sh 356 bytes,12 lines * prerm#!/bin/sh Package: xless Version: 1.7-11 Section: text Priority: extra Architecture: i386 Depends: xaw-wrappers, libc6 (= 2.1), xlib6g (= 3.3.5-1) Installed-Size: 56 Maintainer: Randolph Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: A file browsing tool for the X Window System xless allows you to view information in an X window. It allows filename(s) arguments, or input via STDIN. It can print the current buffer and do regular expression searches. *** Contents: drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 1999-10-16 13:32:15 ./ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 1999-10-16 13:32:13 usr/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 1999-10-16 13:32:14 usr/bin/ -rwxr-xr-x root/root 24432 1999-10-16 13:32:14 usr/bin/xless.real drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 1999-10-16 13:32:12 usr/X11R6/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 1999-10-16 13:32:12 usr/X11R6/lib/ [cut] Peter
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
On 04-Aug-2000 Carl Fink wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:16:33PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote: You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar, and zip programs are all installed. Interestingly, though, it can't browse cpio archives. mc's vfs uses the scripts in /usr/lib/mc/extfs, so it can be easily extended to handle other formats too.
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
* Lehel Bernadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000804 21:30]: On 04-Aug-2000 Carl Fink wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 12:16:33PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote: You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar, and zip programs are all installed. Interestingly, though, it can't browse cpio archives. mc's vfs uses the scripts in /usr/lib/mc/extfs, so it can be easily extended to handle other formats too. Yes, but I think mc support cpio archives right now (see /usr/lib/mc/extfs/ucpio). Anyway, I'm having some anoying messages from mc like this Direntry warning Super ino_usage is 2, memory leak when browsing/extracting from gziped tar balls. Anyone know what is this? -- David
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
Cuando: jue, 03 de ago de 2000, a las 10:51:54 -0700 Quien: kmself@ix.netcom.com Que: Cool trick: gmc and Debs The cool hat trick: You can browse through the contents of a Deb package *.deb file) with gmc as if it were a locally mounted fileystem, without having to unarchive and untar all the constituent components. This is pretty damned sweet. Thought I'd share. If you already knew this, laugh at me. If you didn't -- well, now you do. This must be my second or thir mail to the list, again sorry for my poor english. Well, mc (or gmc) is really cool, but you can browse a .deb file with less: add this to /etc/profile: eval `/usr/bin/lesspipe` , source it, and then less whateveryouwant.deb. Cool, isn't it? Works with .rpm, .tar.gz, .zip too. -- Benjamín Albiñana Pérez Linux User Nº78177 Clave pública: wget http://personal1.iddeo.es/benalb/benjamin-gpg.asc Usar emacs es como tirarse una licuadora. Electrizante al principio, pero no te quedan ganas de repetir. pgpiRKsIeBavZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
