Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-07 Thread Stefan Schumacher
Sorry, forgot to mention that: It did move with the USB-C-Cable. It's
a standard Amazon Basic 0,9m USB-C-to-DP-Cable, bought quite recently.


Am Do., 6. Juli 2023 um 18:18 Uhr schrieb :
>
> Stefan Schumacher  wrote:
> > I have exchanged the connections - one NUC from HDMI to USB-C and the
> > other from USB-C to HDMI.  The problem persists.
> Yes, but did it stay with the NUC or move with the cable?
>



Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-06 Thread debian-user
Stefan Schumacher  wrote:
> I have exchanged the connections - one NUC from HDMI to USB-C and the
> other from USB-C to HDMI.  The problem persists.
Yes, but did it stay with the NUC or move with the cable?



Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-06 Thread Stefan Schumacher
Hello,

I have exchanged the connections - one NUC from HDMI to USB-C and the
other from USB-C to HDMI.  The problem persists. I have not yet bought
a new USB-C-to-DP-Cable and, unfortunately, don't have another one at
hand - only tons of DP and HDMI-Cables. I have bought an active
HDMI-2.1-to-DP1.4-Connector, but only got a display output of it
intermittently.
I strongly suspect that the problem is my monitor. At the moment I am
unwilling to buy a new one, since it supports 4k at 120hz and has four
display connectors. Buying a new monitor with these features would
cost me most likely more than 1k. My current one was a bargain at 800
Euros.

Yours sincerely
Stefan


Am Mo., 3. Juli 2023 um 18:24 Uhr schrieb :
>
> Stefan Schumacher  wrote:
> > Hello Timothy
> >
> > >Do both NUC's have the same behavior or is just one of them having
> > >this problem? If just one of >them is having this behavior is it the
> > >DP or HDMI?
> >
> > I have just done some tests and it's only the USB-C-to-DP NUC that is
> > problematic. The HDMI one goes into suspend and wakes up without any
> > problems. Unfortunately my monitor only does 120hz on the Display Port
> > Connectors and I am by now very much used to the much smoother motion
> > of 120 hz vs 60 hz. I am, according to lsmod, using the i915 driver.
> > At the moment I am considering contacting the maintainer of the driver
> > - maybe he/she can help with this.
>
> Sorry maybe I have missed the information but ...
>
> Have you tried the USB-DP cable on the other NUC? And/or moved the DP
> end to the other connector? Does the problem move with the cable or stay
> with the original NUC? Do you have another USB-DP cable and have you
> tried that?
>
> > Your sincerely
> > Stefan
>



Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-03 Thread Anssi Saari
Stefan Schumacher  writes:

> Hello Timothy
>
>>Do both NUC's have the same behavior or is just one of them having
> this problem? If just one of >them is having this behavior is it the
> DP or HDMI?
>
> I have just done some tests and it's only the USB-C-to-DP NUC that is
> problematic. The HDMI one goes into suspend and wakes up without any
> problems.

I have a similar problem with a Lenovo laptop and Samsung monitor,
although using USB-C to USB-C connection. Same laptop worked without
issue with a Lenovo monitor and same cable so I'm blaming the
Samsung. It seems from some other issues the USB-C support was tacked
on, not well integrated.

Although things have gotten better recently, I just don't know
why. Possibly some update to the Lenovo laptop has helped.



Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-03 Thread debian-user
Stefan Schumacher  wrote:
> Hello Timothy
> 
> >Do both NUC's have the same behavior or is just one of them having
> >this problem? If just one of >them is having this behavior is it the
> >DP or HDMI?  
> 
> I have just done some tests and it's only the USB-C-to-DP NUC that is
> problematic. The HDMI one goes into suspend and wakes up without any
> problems. Unfortunately my monitor only does 120hz on the Display Port
> Connectors and I am by now very much used to the much smoother motion
> of 120 hz vs 60 hz. I am, according to lsmod, using the i915 driver.
> At the moment I am considering contacting the maintainer of the driver
> - maybe he/she can help with this.

Sorry maybe I have missed the information but ...

Have you tried the USB-DP cable on the other NUC? And/or moved the DP
end to the other connector? Does the problem move with the cable or stay
with the original NUC? Do you have another USB-DP cable and have you
tried that?

> Your sincerely
> Stefan



Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-03 Thread Stefan Schumacher
Hello Timothy

>Do both NUC's have the same behavior or is just one of them having this 
>problem? If just one of >them is having this behavior is it the DP or HDMI?

I have just done some tests and it's only the USB-C-to-DP NUC that is
problematic. The HDMI one goes into suspend and wakes up without any
problems. Unfortunately my monitor only does 120hz on the Display Port
Connectors and I am by now very much used to the much smoother motion
of 120 hz vs 60 hz. I am, according to lsmod, using the i915 driver.
At the moment I am considering contacting the maintainer of the driver
- maybe he/she can help with this.

Your sincerely
Stefan



Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-03 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 10:39 AM Stefan Malte Schumacher <
s.schumac...@netcologne.de> wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> This is a revised translation of a posting to the German Debian
> mailing list. Unfortunately
> nobody there was able to help me with my problem but I hope that on
> this list with a much wider list of readers somebody might have
> encountered my problem and found a solution for it.
>
> I have two NUC 13, one for work and one for private use. Both are
> running Debian 12 Bookworm with Gnome 43 and Wayland/Weston. My
> monitor is a Acer Predator XB273KGP, which has four connectors, two
> Displayport 1.4 and two HDMI 2.0. The Display port can do 120hz when
> connected  via DP. One of the NUCs is connected with an
> USB-C-to-DP-Cable and the other one via HDMI 2.0 with only 60 hz. The
> other ports are used by other computers.
>
> My problem is that once the monitor is deactivated – either by
> manually switching it off or by DPMS - the only way to get a picture
> again is either to reboot the NUC or detach and re-attach the USB
> cable. The monitor simply complains that there is "No Signal"
>

Do both NUC's have the same behavior or is just one of them having this
problem? If just one of them is having this behavior is it the DP or HDMI?



> This runs counter to my intended usage. I want to enable power saving
> during the day and reactivate the NUC with a keypress when I want to
> check my emails or search Google. Also, the NUC is connected to my
> video projector via HDMI and I want to turn the computer display off
> when watching movies on the big screen. An active computer is both an
> unwelcome distraction and a waste of energy.
>
> Do you have any suggestions on how to fix this issue? I suspect that
> this is not the fault of my monitor – I have a windows pc for gaming
> and it awakes from suspend with a keypress without any problems. It is
> connected to another DP Port via a high quality DP cable.
>
> I do not even have a workaround until a long-term solution is found.
> At the moment I completely shutdown the NUC after use and start it
> when I want to use it. Luckily this takes only a few seconds – my NUCs
> are fast, especially with a Samsung 990 Pro – but I am still looking
> for a better way to handle this.
>
>
> Yours sincerely
> Stefan
>
>

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Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-02 Thread Stefan Malte Schumacher
Hello everybody,

This is a revised translation of a posting to the German Debian
mailing list. Unfortunately
nobody there was able to help me with my problem but I hope that on
this list with a much wider list of readers somebody might have
encountered my problem and found a solution for it.

I have two NUC 13, one for work and one for private use. Both are
running Debian 12 Bookworm with Gnome 43 and Wayland/Weston. My
monitor is a Acer Predator XB273KGP, which has four connectors, two
Displayport 1.4 and two HDMI 2.0. The Display port can do 120hz when
connected  via DP. One of the NUCs is connected with an
USB-C-to-DP-Cable and the other one via HDMI 2.0 with only 60 hz. The
other ports are used by other computers.

My problem is that once the monitor is deactivated – either by
manually switching it off or by DPMS - the only way to get a picture
again is either to reboot the NUC or detach and re-attach the USB
cable. The monitor simply complains that there is "No Signal"
This runs counter to my intended usage. I want to enable power saving
during the day and reactivate the NUC with a keypress when I want to
check my emails or search Google. Also, the NUC is connected to my
video projector via HDMI and I want to turn the computer display off
when watching movies on the big screen. An active computer is both an
unwelcome distraction and a waste of energy.

Do you have any suggestions on how to fix this issue? I suspect that
this is not the fault of my monitor – I have a windows pc for gaming
and it awakes from suspend with a keypress without any problems. It is
connected to another DP Port via a high quality DP cable.

I do not even have a workaround until a long-term solution is found.
At the moment I completely shutdown the NUC after use and start it
when I want to use it. Luckily this takes only a few seconds – my NUCs
are fast, especially with a Samsung 990 Pro – but I am still looking
for a better way to handle this.


Yours sincerely
Stefan