Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 02/03/11 16:41, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web > site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to > install Debian 6, using it. > > However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from > the CD. > I've just encountered a similar problem to Bret (and other posters). With other installs I've had no problems. Attempting to install the debian-6.0.0-i386-netinst.iso dated Sat Mar 12 04:57:36 2011 burnt CD from two different, known working, USB DVD drives failed. MD5 sums checked ok, machines are ASUS PC Eeee 701SDs. Attempting to install from a USBkey also failed. Same USBkey boots fine on other machines. Symptoms:- nothing, if install source is made the only device in the BIOS boot list - nothing happens. As suggested by Steve McIntyre:- http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/03/msg00221.html I used the non-hybrid:- http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/tmp/squeeze-non-hybrid-test1/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-netinst.iso Made the USBkey bootable with:- http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz This time the installs worked perfectly (thanks Steve). Note: I didn't try burning the non-hybrid image to CD. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d7c1ccb.5000...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 06:06:34AM EST, Camaleón wrote: [..] > For small images (netiso) I do not tend to verify the checksum I just did one.. takes about five seconds to generate the checksum. And since the checksum is going to end up very different even for a lost bit or so.. you can tell at glance whether it's right or not. > media, but for bigger files (CD or DVD sets) I do, just to discard any > problem with the burning proccess. I usually run md5sum a second time against the medium after burning and it only takes a few seconds: # mount /dev/sdc /media # cd /media # md5sum -c md5sum.txt But then, the only good it ever did me was to reveal some kind of bug with md5sum.txt and the install CD not being in sync'.. :-) Just did one with Linux Mint 10 Ubuntu version.. and I've wasted about an hour trying to figure out why I have files listed in md5sum.txt that do not even exist..! I guess I should've downloaded the debian-based version instead.. cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110304234242.GA4059@pavo.local
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 05/03/11 03:10, Bret Busby wrote: > On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Bret Busby wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Camaleón wrote: >> I tried installing the 64 bit one, and it does not proceed past the "Configure package manager" >>> >>> Okay. But now at least you reached the installer. That's makes more >>> sense >>> to me. >>> Every mirroor that I tried, in Australia, and, in the USA, returned "Bad Archive Mirror". In Australia, I tried the WAIIA, iinet, UWA, au.debian.org, optus.net, and other mirrors, in the USA, I tried the MIT, Berkely, debian.us (or whatever it was), and others, all with the same error message. Surely, they can't all be lacking Debian 6 amd64 mirrors? I think it should be "Bad Debian 6"! This is the most problematic installation process that I remember. >>> >>> That sounds indeed very weird. One mirror can have problems but not all >>> of them. I'd suspect from your Internet connection at the time of the >>> installation. >>> >>> Did you manually specify the mirror's URI or just select one from the >>> drop-down menu? >>> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> -- >>> Camaleón >>> >>> >> >> I selected from the drop down list. >> >> I will, in a few hours, try what someone else suggested - go out to a >> console, and try to ping out, to check the Internet access. >> >> -- >> Bret Busby >> Armadale >> West Australia >> .. >> > > Went to console, tried to ping; error returned "ping not found". > As root? > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > > Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d71722a.1020...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 00:10:02 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Bret Busby wrote: > > >> On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Camaleón wrote: >> >>> That sounds indeed very weird. One mirror can have problems but not >>> all of them. I'd suspect from your Internet connection at the time of >>> the installation. >>> >>> Did you manually specify the mirror's URI or just select one from the >>> drop-down menu? >>> >> I selected from the drop down list. >> >> I will, in a few hours, try what someone else suggested - go out to a >> console, and try to ping out, to check the Internet access. >> >> > Went to console, tried to ping; error returned "ping not found". Remember that you can always fall into a tty to get the error messages (IIRC, debug messages go to tty4). When you get an error ("mirror x nor found", "command not found", "card not detected", etc...), jump to tty4 and review the logs. > So far, 3 CD's, ~800MB of downloads, still unable to install Debian 6. You can install from the first CD (no Internet connection required). Install a basic system and once you're in, you can start downloading the rest of the packages. > It sounds very much like the Monty Python "dead parrot sketch". > > In setting up (manually) the nertwork settings, it automatically found > the gateway IP address, so I assume that the NIC is operational with the > installation process so far. > > It will now have to wait until I have found how to check our download > quota usage, before I try to download the next suggested iso image of > 400MB to initiate yet another installation attempt. > > It appears that I should have ignored the instructions, and just > downloaded the DVD image from the web page at > http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ , as it would probably work out being > less in downloads, if the DVD iso image works. I've never had problems with the netiso image, but sure, sometimes is better to get the first CD or DVD and move on. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.03.04.16.54...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Bret Busby wrote: On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Camaleón wrote: I tried installing the 64 bit one, and it does not proceed past the "Configure package manager" Okay. But now at least you reached the installer. That's makes more sense to me. Every mirroor that I tried, in Australia, and, in the USA, returned "Bad Archive Mirror". In Australia, I tried the WAIIA, iinet, UWA, au.debian.org, optus.net, and other mirrors, in the USA, I tried the MIT, Berkely, debian.us (or whatever it was), and others, all with the same error message. Surely, they can't all be lacking Debian 6 amd64 mirrors? I think it should be "Bad Debian 6"! This is the most problematic installation process that I remember. That sounds indeed very weird. One mirror can have problems but not all of them. I'd suspect from your Internet connection at the time of the installation. Did you manually specify the mirror's URI or just select one from the drop-down menu? Greetings, -- Camaleón I selected from the drop down list. I will, in a few hours, try what someone else suggested - go out to a console, and try to ping out, to check the Internet access. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. Went to console, tried to ping; error returned "ping not found". So far, 3 CD's, ~800MB of downloads, still unable to install Debian 6. It sounds very much like the Monty Python "dead parrot sketch". In setting up (manually) the nertwork settings, it automatically found the gateway IP address, so I assume that the NIC is operational with the installation process so far. It will now have to wait until I have found how to check our download quota usage, before I try to download the next suggested iso image of 400MB to initiate yet another installation attempt. It appears that I should have ignored the instructions, and just downloaded the DVD image from the web page at http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ , as it would probably work out being less in downloads, if the DVD iso image works. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 04/03/11 19:31, Bret Busby wrote: > On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Bret Busby wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011, Camaleón wrote: >> >>> >>> On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:41:54 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >>> To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to install Debian 6, using it. However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from the CD. >>> >>> (...) >>> >>> Ensure that you: >>> >>> 1/ Properly wrote the ISO image in the CD >>> 2/ Configured your BIOS boot sequence in the right manner >>> >>> There are not many options for a failure here. >>> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> -- >>> Camaleón >>> >>> >> >> The file was downloaded, saved to a directory on the computer that >> downloaded it (using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS), then written to the CD using >> brasero, which was the default on that computer (not this computer, >> and not the target computer for the Debian 6 installation). >> >> The BIOS boot sequence was the same as for when the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS >> was installed on the target computer. The Ubuntu 10.04 LTS CD booted >> and installed without problem, but the Debian 6 netinst CD was >> bypassed, in the same boot process settings. >> >> -- >> Bret Busby >> Armadale >> West Australia >> .. >> > > And so today I downloaded another set of iso images; one for each of the > 32 bit and the 64 bit installations. It came from the previous source as > the previous iso iomage that did not work - through hummer.se (or > something similar), via the web page at http://www.debian.org/distrib/ , > from the part > > " > Download a small installation image > > Use Internet to download additional files during installation. > > These small netinst images can be downloaded quickly and should be > recorded onto a CD/DVD/USB disk. These allow you to download only those > Debian packages that you actually want, but require an Internet > connection on the machine you are installing Debian onto. > > * 32-bit PC netinst iso > * 64-bit PC netinst iso > " > > > > I tried installing the 64 bit one, and it does not proceed past the > "Configure package manager" > > Every mirroor that I tried, in Australia, and, in the USA, returned "Bad > Archive Mirror". > > In Australia, I tried the WAIIA, iinet, UWA, au.debian.org, optus.net, > and other mirrors, in the USA, I tried the MIT, Berkely, debian.us (or > whatever it was), and others, all with the same error message. > > Surely, they can't all be lacking Debian 6 amd64 mirrors? > > I think it should be "Bad Debian 6"! > > This is the most problematic installation process that I remember. > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > > Bret, I sent you (offlist) a tested, working link to the local (Oz) CD mirror. If you cut and pasted the wget line you will find that it still works. That image is the amd64-i386 image baked the other day. scott@work:~$ wget -t 0 http://ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso --2011-03-04 23:27:36-- http://ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso Resolving ftp.iinet.net.au... 203.0.178.32 Connecting to ftp.iinet.net.au|203.0.178.32|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 432142336 (412M) [application/x-iso9660-image] Saving to: `debian-6.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso' Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d70db4c.8040...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Camaleón wrote: I tried installing the 64 bit one, and it does not proceed past the "Configure package manager" Okay. But now at least you reached the installer. That's makes more sense to me. Every mirroor that I tried, in Australia, and, in the USA, returned "Bad Archive Mirror". In Australia, I tried the WAIIA, iinet, UWA, au.debian.org, optus.net, and other mirrors, in the USA, I tried the MIT, Berkely, debian.us (or whatever it was), and others, all with the same error message. Surely, they can't all be lacking Debian 6 amd64 mirrors? I think it should be "Bad Debian 6"! This is the most problematic installation process that I remember. That sounds indeed very weird. One mirror can have problems but not all of them. I'd suspect from your Internet connection at the time of the installation. Did you manually specify the mirror's URI or just select one from the drop-down menu? Greetings, -- Camaleón I selected from the drop down list. I will, in a few hours, try what someone else suggested - go out to a console, and try to ping out, to check the Internet access. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:31:05 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Bret Busby wrote: > > >> On Wed, 2 Mar 2011, Camaleón wrote: >> >>> Ensure that you: >>> >>> 1/ Properly wrote the ISO image in the CD >>> 2/ Configured your BIOS boot sequence in the right manner >>> >>> There are not many options for a failure here. >>> >>> >>> >> The file was downloaded, saved to a directory on the computer that >> downloaded it (using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS), then written to the CD using >> brasero, which was the default on that computer (not this computer, and >> not the target computer for the Debian 6 installation). >> >> The BIOS boot sequence was the same as for when the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS >> was installed on the target computer. The Ubuntu 10.04 LTS CD booted >> and installed without problem, but the Debian 6 netinst CD was >> bypassed, in the same boot process settings. For small images (netiso) I do not tend to verify the checksum or the media, but for bigger files (CD or DVD sets) I do, just to discard any problem with the burning proccess. Anyway, if the CD presents any problem (does not boot or gets stuck at Isolinux banner) it's a good idea to perform the test. > And so today I downloaded another set of iso images; one for each of the > 32 bit and the 64 bit installations. It came from the previous source as > the previous iso iomage that did not work - through hummer.se (or > something similar), via the web page at http://www.debian.org/distrib/ , > from the part > > " > Download a small installation image (...) > I tried installing the 64 bit one, and it does not proceed past the > "Configure package manager" Okay. But now at least you reached the installer. That's makes more sense to me. > Every mirroor that I tried, in Australia, and, in the USA, returned "Bad > Archive Mirror". > > In Australia, I tried the WAIIA, iinet, UWA, au.debian.org, optus.net, > and other mirrors, in the USA, I tried the MIT, Berkely, debian.us (or > whatever it was), and others, all with the same error message. > > Surely, they can't all be lacking Debian 6 amd64 mirrors? > > I think it should be "Bad Debian 6"! > > This is the most problematic installation process that I remember. That sounds indeed very weird. One mirror can have problems but not all of them. I'd suspect from your Internet connection at the time of the installation. Did you manually specify the mirror's URI or just select one from the drop-down menu? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.03.04.11.06...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Vi, 04 mar 11, 16:31:05, Bret Busby wrote: > > I tried installing the 64 bit one, and it does not proceed past the > "Configure package manager" > > Every mirroor that I tried, in Australia, and, in the USA, returned > "Bad Archive Mirror". And the internet connection is working without a problem from within the installer? Try using a console (Ctrl+)Alt+F1 and 'ping google.com' should tell you if everything is ok. Possible problem: some network cards (especially wireless) need non-free firmware, which is not included in the official images. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 03/04/2011 02:31 AM, Bret Busby wrote: [snip] Every mirroor that I tried, in Australia, and, in the USA, returned "Bad Archive Mirror". In Australia, I tried the WAIIA, iinet, UWA, au.debian.org, optus.net, and other mirrors, in the USA, I tried the MIT, Berkely, debian.us (or whatever it was), and others, all with the same error message. Surely, they can't all be lacking Debian 6 amd64 mirrors? I got something like this recently when choosing ftp transport. Use http and make sure that the chosen archive really uses http instead of ftp. -- I prefer banana-flavored energy bars made from tofu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d70a99b.2080...@cox.net
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Bret Busby wrote: On Wed, 2 Mar 2011, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:41:54 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to install Debian 6, using it. However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from the CD. (...) Ensure that you: 1/ Properly wrote the ISO image in the CD 2/ Configured your BIOS boot sequence in the right manner There are not many options for a failure here. Greetings, -- Camaleón The file was downloaded, saved to a directory on the computer that downloaded it (using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS), then written to the CD using brasero, which was the default on that computer (not this computer, and not the target computer for the Debian 6 installation). The BIOS boot sequence was the same as for when the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS was installed on the target computer. The Ubuntu 10.04 LTS CD booted and installed without problem, but the Debian 6 netinst CD was bypassed, in the same boot process settings. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. And so today I downloaded another set of iso images; one for each of the 32 bit and the 64 bit installations. It came from the previous source as the previous iso iomage that did not work - through hummer.se (or something similar), via the web page at http://www.debian.org/distrib/ , from the part " Download a small installation image Use Internet to download additional files during installation. These small netinst images can be downloaded quickly and should be recorded onto a CD/DVD/USB disk. These allow you to download only those Debian packages that you actually want, but require an Internet connection on the machine you are installing Debian onto. * 32-bit PC netinst iso * 64-bit PC netinst iso " I tried installing the 64 bit one, and it does not proceed past the "Configure package manager" Every mirroor that I tried, in Australia, and, in the USA, returned "Bad Archive Mirror". In Australia, I tried the WAIIA, iinet, UWA, au.debian.org, optus.net, and other mirrors, in the USA, I tried the MIT, Berkely, debian.us (or whatever it was), and others, all with the same error message. Surely, they can't all be lacking Debian 6 amd64 mirrors? I think it should be "Bad Debian 6"! This is the most problematic installation process that I remember. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Wed, 2 Mar 2011, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:41:54 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to install Debian 6, using it. However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from the CD. (...) Ensure that you: 1/ Properly wrote the ISO image in the CD 2/ Configured your BIOS boot sequence in the right manner There are not many options for a failure here. Greetings, -- Camaleón The file was downloaded, saved to a directory on the computer that downloaded it (using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS), then written to the CD using brasero, which was the default on that computer (not this computer, and not the target computer for the Debian 6 installation). The BIOS boot sequence was the same as for when the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS was installed on the target computer. The Ubuntu 10.04 LTS CD booted and installed without problem, but the Debian 6 netinst CD was bypassed, in the same boot process settings. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
George wrote: >> Did you verified the checksum of the ISO image before burn it and also >> the whole CD once it was written in the medium? > >MD5 sums of the ISOs are correct, I'm not going to MD5 the burned >images - takes a long time, and I don't believe this to be the issue. > >> How about booting using a USB key? > >Sorry, yes I did try a USB key - same results as ISOs. Only the IMG >file finally worked from USB key, the ISOs and/or hybrid-ISOs did not. Hmmm. *maybe* this is a feature of the hybrid ISO format and your BIOS. If it's not too much trouble, please could you try an appropriate image from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/tmp/squeeze-non-hybrid-test1/ and tell me if/how that works? Thanks, -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, A state of bliss -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1pv9lm-0001rs...@jack.mossbank.org.uk
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
Jason wrote: >I've also had problems installing Debian 6.0.0 on my 10-year-old IBM NetVista >computer using the full >CD-1 ISO. When I selected âInstallâ or âGraphical Installâ on the >installer boot menu, the >screen froze up and then flickered. > >Further investigation confirmed that the Debian 6.0.0 ISO and my old computer >are definitely not compatible: >1. With the very same CD, I had no difficulty installing Debian 6.0.0 in >VirtualBox on my newer >computer. This rules out a bad CD. >2. I tried booting up Debian 6.0.0 on USB on the old computer. Again, when I >selected âInstallâ or >âGraphical Installâ on the installer boot menu, the screen froze up and >then flickered. This also >rules out a bad CD and a bad CD drive. >3. I had no difficulty installing Debian Lenny on the old computer. This >rules out a bad CD drive. > >I've installed Debian Lenny on the old computer, which I'm using as a firewall >and server. I may be >behind the times, but at least it works. I'll have to figure out how to >upgrade to Squeeze, and I'll be >using the PartImage program to clone my working Debian Lenny installation so >that I can quickly restore >it after any unsuccessful attempts to upgrade. Hi Jason, As I just mentioned to George also, please can you try one of the images from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/tmp/squeeze-non-hybrid-test1/ and let us know how you get on? Cheers, -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, A state of bliss -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1pv9nb-0001tu...@jack.mossbank.org.uk
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Wed, 2 Mar 2011, Bret Busby wrote: Hello. To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to install Debian 6, using it. However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from the CD. I have previously installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, from a CD, on that computer, without any problem. Is the Debian 6 netinst iso, not installabe, or, not bootable? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. Hello. Sorry - I should have been more explicit in my problem description, from the responses. The target computer for the installation, is a Dell Inspiron 580. I initially tried to install Debian 5, using the install disk from which I installed the Debian that I am currently using on this computer. When I booted with that CD, it went rabid. It went into an endless loop, scrolling text on the screen, at a ridiculously fast rate, indefinitiely. It disabled all interrupts, including the power switch, and the only way that I could stop it, was to pull the power plug from the power socket. Not good for the hardware, but no other option. So, I used (via installation) a Ubuntu 10.04 LTS cd to re-partition the HDD and install a version of Linux on the system. The Debian 6 CD that I tried to install, has the file with the following properties: Name: debian-6.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso Type: raw CD image Size: 412.1 MB (432142336 bytes) MIME Type: application/x-cd-image Modified: Thu 24 Feb 2011 23:05:31 WST Accessed: Thu 24 Feb 2011 23:14:52 WST WST is UTC+0800 I assume that the times are the download time and the time that the file was written to the CD. The file was downloaded using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on another computer (not this one), and the file was written to the CD, using brasero. When I booted the target computer, with the CD in the optical drive, it was bypassed in the boot process, which went directly to the HDD. I had previously reconfigured the boot procedure to boot with the removable optical drive first, then the HDD. That was the boot order used for the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installation process, and that boot order is unchanged. One thing - the Debian 5 Live CD (I think it was - it was one of the two Debain 5 CD's; either the installable one or the Live one) indicated that the CD/DVD drive was not recognised and it did not include a driver for the drive. If the Debian 6 CD did not recognise the CD/DVD drive, I expect that an error message, indicating the incompatibility, would have been displayed. If the Debian 6 CD was not compatible, I expect that an error message indicating this, would have been displayed. But, the Debian 6 CD, simply did nothing, and the boot process bypassed it. In trying to find the source of the iso image again, I cannot find it. It was via the debian.org web site In going to the web page at http://www.debian.org/distrib/ , I find that the netinst iso image has apparently, since my downloading the delinquent image, been split so that the i386 and amd64 components are separated onto separate images and separate downloads and separate installations (which is unfortunate, as I had imagined that the image that I had downloaded would detect the hardware, and recommend which is the appropriate installation - amd64 or i386 (previously discussed in another query that I had raised) - however, whether or not my perception of the autodetection and recommendation applicable to the hardware, was correct, the provision of the image appears to have changed). So, it appears that I have to start again, and I assume that the iso image that I had downloaded for Debian 6, had been found to be too buggy, and so had been chucked out by Debian, and the replacements completely different, having been split into amd64 and i386 components. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.1.10.1103031505550.26...@bretnewworkstation.busby.net
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 03/03/11 15:50, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <4d6f198b.1080...@gmail.com>, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> AMD - hmmm I've had a few problems with AMD boards - if the NIC requires >> forcedeth I *always* disable it in the BIOS and replace it with a card >> that GNU/Linux actually supports. forcedeth is crap - I defy anyone to >> get them to continuously work properly. > > Mine (2 on this Tyan board) have been working as well for nearly 6 years now. > > I've heard other stories about forcedeth not working well, but I've never > even > had a hiccup from mine. Fortunately there's an exception to many bad rules :-) Don't know if I've had any Tyan boards through - the two forcedeths I have on hand are both ASUS - and it's only GNU/Linux drivers that have a problem with them - no biggy, NICs are cheap. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6f4798.6070...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 03/03/11 05:40, Jason Hsu wrote: > I've also had problems installing Debian 6.0.0 on my 10-year-old IBM NetVista > computer using the full CD-1 ISO. When I selected “Install” or “Graphical > Install” on the installer boot menu, the screen froze up and then flickered. > > Further investigation confirmed that the Debian 6.0.0 ISO and my old computer > are definitely not compatible: IBM's have a long history of being difficult beasts - hence the number of built-in Debian installer work-arounds for them. > 1. With the very same CD, I had no difficulty installing Debian 6.0.0 in > VirtualBox on my newer computer. This rules out a bad CD. Agreed. > 2. I tried booting up Debian 6.0.0 on USB on the old computer. Again, when > I selected “Install” or “Graphical Install” on the installer boot menu, the > screen froze up and then flickered. This also rules out a bad CD and a bad > CD drive. > 3. I had no difficulty installing Debian Lenny on the old computer. This > rules out a bad CD drive. Agreed > > I've installed Debian Lenny on the old computer, which I'm using as a > firewall and server. I may be behind the times, but at least it works. I'll > have to figure out how to upgrade to Squeeze, and I'll be using the PartImage > program to clone my working Debian Lenny installation so that I can quickly > restore it after any unsuccessful attempts to upgrade. > Nah - you're not behind the times - I still run Lenny on my main work machines - though I've recently moved one server (headless) to Squeeze. Early versions of both Etch and Lenny had problems with IBMs. At a minimum you'll probably need "acpi=force" during the install, without more information it's hard to know what else to suggest. vt4 will normally give you the necessary clues - *vga mode* or dma for the cd drive'd be other likely problems. In your case it does "sound" like a vga mode problem if it helps I used to boot a Knoppix (or an early DSL) on the problem machines to determine the problem - Debian uses discover whereas Knoppix uses a RedHat system to determine hardware. Most of the time Knoppix will run - and checking dmesg will give some useful clues about workarounds. Alternatively you could just try again with another video card (and BIOS suitably configured). I'm guessing the Utility partition has been wiped... Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6f44e7.5030...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
In <4d6f198b.1080...@gmail.com>, Scott Ferguson wrote: >AMD - hmmm I've had a few problems with AMD boards - if the NIC requires >forcedeth I *always* disable it in the BIOS and replace it with a card >that GNU/Linux actually supports. forcedeth is crap - I defy anyone to >get them to continuously work properly. Mine (2 on this Tyan board) have been working as well for nearly 6 years now. I've heard other stories about forcedeth not working well, but I've never even had a hiccup from mine. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 03/03/11 05:22, george.stand...@gmail.com wrote: >> Did you verified the checksum of the ISO image before burn it and also >> the whole CD once it was written in the medium? > > MD5 sums of the ISOs are correct, I'm not going to MD5 the burned > images - takes a long time, and I don't believe this to be the issue. Not necessary to md5sum the burnt cd - check cd is an option from the install menu - takes maybe two minutes to do. > >> How about booting using a USB key? > > Sorry, yes I did try a USB key - same results as ISOs. Only the IMG > file finally worked from USB key, the ISOs and/or hybrid-ISOs did not. > > It would be useful if you provided the bake date of the netinst you're referring to. :-) Please note my earlier comments about the mirror updates yesterday - I'm guessing you're +12GMT. I haven't read the errata to see what changes came through, nor have I read the issues - those are normally amongst the first things I do read if I have issues installing. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6f1c7b.3050...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 03/03/11 04:19, george.stand...@gmail.com wrote: > I too am having serious issues with the debian-6.0.0-* ISOs on an ASUS > AMD64 system, they don't boot past the initial screen with "ISOLINUX > 4.02 debian-20101014 EHDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvi et al" > and a flashing "_" > > I tested with the AMD64 netinstall, the i386 netinstall and the dual > AMD64/i386 netinstall - all with the same result. > > Initially I simply installed using debian-505-amd64-netinst.iso and upgraded. > > Determined to get Squeeze installed directly, my second attempt > included using an external USB CDROM drive (which was successfully > used for my netbook's Squeeze installation) which also fails as > above. > > Trying the debian-live ISO images had the same results as the > netinstalls, BUT using the debian-live-6.0.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.img > HD/USB image worked fine! > > My 2 cents on the issue, > George > > AMD - hmmm I've had a few problems with AMD boards - if the NIC requires forcedeth I *always* disable it in the BIOS and replace it with a card that GNU/Linux actually supports. forcedeth is crap - I defy anyone to get them to continuously work properly. That would be my first suspect, GUI install and auto-partition the second **local mirrors updating whilst you're building - the third** and a drive that cannot properly read (or write) to the inner-track would be the fourth place I'd look for the problem - though a failure to be able to install from a USBkey should rule out the cd/dvd drive as the problem. I tried again this morning using the latest i386 netinst - this taking copious notes and using VirtualBox and taking screen shots (just to supplement my memory of course). I have not tested the GUI install, nor am I likely too - I simply don't have the time to test an install just for the purpose of testing an install (that I'm not having problems with). I usually install from PXE which would eliminate any inner-track cd reading problems, but any boot-loader problems should still show up. This time I just booted from a local image - I've previously had far too many problems getting cd/dvds to read netinst or business card images (strangely older drives have less problems than newer ones). This mornings steps: boot from (image) - choose Help from the first screen drops you to cli "expert hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false" Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 "Squeeze" - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 20110205-14:34 (baked yesterday) English Language - en_AU.UTF-8 as primary, secondary is en_AU keep kernel keymap dhcp (domain info provided by my firewall) no sudo no Full username, just username ntp using my firewall hosted ntp server Choose my timezone - AU, Canberra (yay! Squeeze, formerly only RedHat based systems gave me Canberra as an East coast choice) msdos as partition type 1.4Gb primary partition (root) ext3 noatime bootable remainder ext3 noatime user_xattr (home) Note: lack of swap targeted initrd http repository type Australia as reposititory location physically nearest mirror - transact (doesn't really matter, large local "Update Accelerator" on IpCop) non-free + security + volatile repositories (in this instance) virtualbox-ose.guest-X11 auto added no to package usage survey no to setuid for man no to laptop packages (if building laptop I add packages selectively after reboot and stripping out unwanted packages like exim4* and changing apt to just pull needed not recommended) Grub UTC About twenty minutes and all done - no errors or complaints Please don't interpret this to mean that it doesn't matter that a default install isn't working - it should, and I encourage any who are having problems to submit a (useful and detailed) bug report to the upstream folks. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6f198b.1080...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
on 13:41 Wed 02 Mar, Bret Busby (b...@busby.net) wrote: > Hello. > > To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian > web site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried > to install Debian 6, using it. What URL did you download, specifically? > However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot > from the CD. Verify your downloaded ISO against checksums. Verify your burned CD against checksums (your CD-burning software should offer this option). Try another CD. Try another drive. Tell us EXACTLY what happens at boot, what is displayed, and what, if any, error messages are displayed. Follow up to the list with updates on what you've tried / what's failed. > I have previously installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, from a CD, on that > computer, without any problem. > > Is the Debian 6 netinst iso, not installabe, or, not bootable? Works for me: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/02/msg01938.html -- Dr. Ed Morbius, Chief Scientist /| Robot Wrangler / Staff Psychologist| When you seek unlimited power Krell Power Systems Unlimited| Go to Krell! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110302225844.gf5...@altaira.krellpowersys.exo
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 2011-03-02 15:48:43 Jason Hsu wrote: >I tried adding acpi=off, then noapic, and then noacpi. I still got the >"Error reading release file" message. > >It looks like I'll be sticking with Debian Lenny. At least I have at least >a year or two to resolve this Squeeze issue or figure out how to properly >upgrade to Squeeze. Upgrading to Squeeze doesn't require release media at all. It requires reading the release notes, which will walk you through updating your source.list, doing an update/upgrade/dist-upgrade dance, and cleaning up afterward. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
I tried adding acpi=off, then noapic, and then noacpi. I still got the "Error reading release file" message. It looks like I'll be sticking with Debian Lenny. At least I have at least a year or two to resolve this Squeeze issue or figure out how to properly upgrade to Squeeze. I'm keeping those PartImage files of my Debian Lenny setups so that I can revert back to something that works. On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:19:15 -0500 Christopher Judd wrote: > On Wednesday 02 March 2011 15:27:46 Jason Hsu wrote: > > > Thanks. I was able to add those boot codes. Unfortunately, the installer > > couldn't properly detect my CD drive, and I got the "Error reading Release > > file" error. Are there additional boot codes I need to add? > > > > You might want to try (from memory, check exact parameters) "NOAPIC" > and/or "ACPI=OFF". I had to do this to install squeeze (when it was still > testing) on on older Toshiba laptop. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110302154843.b5b72144.jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 15:27:46 Jason Hsu wrote: > Thanks. I was able to add those boot codes. Unfortunately, the installer > couldn't properly detect my CD drive, and I got the "Error reading Release > file" error. Are there additional boot codes I need to add? > You might want to try (from memory, check exact parameters) "NOAPIC" and/or "ACPI=OFF". I had to do this to install squeeze (when it was still testing) on on older Toshiba laptop. -Chris | Christopher Judd, Ph. D. | | Research Scientist III | | NYS Dept. of Health j...@wadsworth.org | | Wadsworth Center - ESP | | P. O. Box 509518 486-7829 | | Albany, NY 12201-0509 | IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential or sensitive information which is, or may be, legally privileged or otherwise protected by law from further disclosure. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, please do not distribute, copy or use it or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103021619.15396.j...@wadsworth.org
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
Thanks. I was able to add those boot codes. Unfortunately, the installer couldn't properly detect my CD drive, and I got the "Error reading Release file" error. Are there additional boot codes I need to add? On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:14:11 -0400 Joey Hess wrote: > Jason Hsu wrote: > > When I boot up the Debian CD, I am never offered the option of adding boot > > codes. How do I add "vga=normal fb=false"? > > Press Tab. > -- Jason Hsu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110302142746.5768ec22.jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
Jason Hsu wrote: > When I boot up the Debian CD, I am never offered the option of adding boot > codes. How do I add "vga=normal fb=false"? Press Tab. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
When I boot up the Debian CD, I am never offered the option of adding boot codes. How do I add "vga=normal fb=false"? On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:33:08 -0400 Joey Hess wrote: > Jason Hsu wrote: > > I've also had problems installing Debian 6.0.0 on my 10-year-old IBM > > NetVista computer using the full CD-1 ISO. When I selected “Install” > > or “Graphical Install” on the installer boot menu, the screen froze up > > and then flickered. > > Boot the kernel with the parameters: vga=normal fb=false > -- Jason Hsu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110302135746.781ed88e.jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
Steve Kleene wrote: I also just deleted my copies. I do still have the two CDs I made but don't know how to regenerate the iso file from the CDs (unless a copy of the intact iso file is on the CD; I forget). It's been awhile since I've done it but I do know that k3b will make an iso from the cd. -- Jimmy Johnson Kubuntu 10.10 - KDE 4.6.0 at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6e9ea3.30...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
Jason Hsu wrote: > I've also had problems installing Debian 6.0.0 on my 10-year-old IBM > NetVista computer using the full CD-1 ISO. When I selected “Install” > or “Graphical Install” on the installer boot menu, the screen froze up > and then flickered. Boot the kernel with the parameters: vga=normal fb=false -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
I've also had problems installing Debian 6.0.0 on my 10-year-old IBM NetVista computer using the full CD-1 ISO. When I selected “Install” or “Graphical Install” on the installer boot menu, the screen froze up and then flickered. Further investigation confirmed that the Debian 6.0.0 ISO and my old computer are definitely not compatible: 1. With the very same CD, I had no difficulty installing Debian 6.0.0 in VirtualBox on my newer computer. This rules out a bad CD. 2. I tried booting up Debian 6.0.0 on USB on the old computer. Again, when I selected “Install” or “Graphical Install” on the installer boot menu, the screen froze up and then flickered. This also rules out a bad CD and a bad CD drive. 3. I had no difficulty installing Debian Lenny on the old computer. This rules out a bad CD drive. I've installed Debian Lenny on the old computer, which I'm using as a firewall and server. I may be behind the times, but at least it works. I'll have to figure out how to upgrade to Squeeze, and I'll be using the PartImage program to clone my working Debian Lenny installation so that I can quickly restore it after any unsuccessful attempts to upgrade. -- Jason Hsu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110302124018.8c566f3a.jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
> Did you verified the checksum of the ISO image before burn it and also > the whole CD once it was written in the medium? MD5 sums of the ISOs are correct, I'm not going to MD5 the burned images - takes a long time, and I don't believe this to be the issue. > How about booting using a USB key? Sorry, yes I did try a USB key - same results as ISOs. Only the IMG file finally worked from USB key, the ISOs and/or hybrid-ISOs did not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik-cdczsbwtg3mfxzxbympu67glhzbuvzm2s...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 12:19:17 -0500, george wrote: > I too am having serious issues with the debian-6.0.0-* ISOs on an ASUS > AMD64 system, they don't boot past the initial screen with "ISOLINUX > 4.02 debian-20101014 EHDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvi et al" > and a flashing "_" And this can be another different issue. At least you still get the isolinux greeter banner. > I tested with the AMD64 netinstall, the i386 netinstall and the dual > AMD64/i386 netinstall - all with the same result. Did you verified the checksum of the ISO image before burn it and also the whole CD once it was written in the medium? > Initially I simply installed using debian-505-amd64-netinst.iso and > upgraded. > > Determined to get Squeeze installed directly, my second attempt included > using an external USB CDROM drive (which was successfully used for my > netbook's Squeeze installation) which also fails as above. How about booting using a USB key? > Trying the debian-live ISO images had the same results as the > netinstalls, BUT using the debian-live-6.0.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.img > HD/USB image worked fine! > > My 2 cents on the issue, This could be another problem. I had no issue for booting the installer with the netiso image :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.03.02.17.43...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
I too am having serious issues with the debian-6.0.0-* ISOs on an ASUS AMD64 system, they don't boot past the initial screen with "ISOLINUX 4.02 debian-20101014 EHDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvi et al" and a flashing "_" I tested with the AMD64 netinstall, the i386 netinstall and the dual AMD64/i386 netinstall - all with the same result. Initially I simply installed using debian-505-amd64-netinst.iso and upgraded. Determined to get Squeeze installed directly, my second attempt included using an external USB CDROM drive (which was successfully used for my netbook's Squeeze installation) which also fails as above. Trying the debian-live ISO images had the same results as the netinstalls, BUT using the debian-live-6.0.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.img HD/USB image worked fine! My 2 cents on the issue, George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikw4syabi6hznbxj+pgrjnwtgpqutzhn1jq7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:41:54 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web > site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to > install Debian 6, using it. > > However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from > the CD. (...) Ensure that you: 1/ Properly wrote the ISO image in the CD 2/ Configured your BIOS boot sequence in the right manner There are not many options for a failure here. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.03.02.16.28...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 02/03/11 23:43, I wrote: > In my hands it was uninstallable. With an md5sum-checked CD of this: > Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 "Squeeze" - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 \ > 20110205-14:34 > it booted, got about halfway through the install, and then started giving CD > errors. I tried a second checked CD as well, and trying to install from a > flash drive also gave CD errors. I filed bug report #613835. On 2011-03-02 14:11:20 GMT, Scott Ferguson replied: > Did you just do the breadcrumb (hit enter) install? Yes. > did you try only the one dvd drive? Yes. I figured the drive was OK because it worked for installing 5.0.8 and testing. > I no longer have that netinst image (replaced with last nights one)- so I > can't test it. I also just deleted my copies. I do still have the two CDs I made but don't know how to regenerate the iso file from the CDs (unless a copy of the intact iso file is on the CD; I forget). It's been two weeks now, but as best I can recall I selected Auto-Partition because I couldn't get Manual to work. (I usually use Manual.) Once Auto was selected I could change whatever I wanted anyway. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20110302t165205-...@post.gmane.org
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 02/03/11 23:43, Steve Kleene wrote: > In my hands it was uninstallable. With an md5sum-checked CD of this: > Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 "Squeeze" - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 \ > 20110205-14:34 > it booted, got about halfway through the install, and then started giving CD > errors. I tried a second checked CD as well, and trying to install from a > flash drive also gave CD errors. I filed bug report #613835. > > I was able to install testing (Wheezy) from a CD and have given up on Squeeze. > > Did you just do the breadcrumb (hit enter) install? I used the non-gui, full option, install (expert) with manual partitioning - same version as the one you've quoted above. While it's unlikely that acpi would 'cause your problem (I'm guessing) I have had a case some years ago where Xandros would only install if acpi was forced - in my, current, case I don't think it was needed for the install - I'm just lazy and new that these boxen (three boxes, one laptop) require it or shutdown results in a hang. I suspect that either the gui option or auto-partitioning "might" be a cause. Additionally I have seen similar errors to what you describe in your bug report when installing Lenny onto old Toshibas last year - it puzzled me for a while why an install from the cd should stop part way through due to not being able to find the cd it was installing from... then it dawned on me that I needed to force DMA off on the cd drive. Your bug report does not say which install options you chose did you try only the one dvd drive? I note you tried a usb-key install which makes me guess it wasn't a problem with the cd drive reading the inner tracks. Unfortunately I no longer have that netinst image (replaced with last nights one)- so I can't test it. I heard no complaints about the machines built with that image though. I shall be building some virtualbox appliances tomorrow with the latest netinst - I'll post here if I have any problems. Seems it wasn't that many years ago when I could never seem to find any linux distro that "just" installed by hitting enter - I got so used to having to try every install option that I could never bring myself to do the default chicken install. Note: we call it chicken not because it's a weak option - simply because we hoped we could glue bread to the enter key and leave a chicken to earn our wages while we went to the pub. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6e5008.5040...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
In my hands it was uninstallable. With an md5sum-checked CD of this: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 "Squeeze" - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 \ 20110205-14:34 it booted, got about halfway through the install, and then started giving CD errors. I tried a second checked CD as well, and trying to install from a flash drive also gave CD errors. I filed bug report #613835. I was able to install testing (Wheezy) from a CD and have given up on Squeeze. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20110302t133931...@post.gmane.org
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 02/03/11 16:41, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web > site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to > install Debian 6, using it. > > However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from > the CD. > > I have previously installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, from a CD, on that > computer, without any problem. > > Is the Debian 6 netinst iso, not installabe, or, not bootable? > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > > > > let me revise that last post:- I installed on 4 machines using the previous netinst iso but install line was just "expert acpi=force", desktop package selections came later, those boxen required the "acpi=force" as they're fairly old, you probably won't. You don't say *which* netinst - I'm using "just" i386 You don't mention any error messages so I assume you didn't get any (other than OS not found sort). No problems using same image to upgrade a lenny boxen either. I've had problems in the past with netinst iso cds on some drives - the tiny image really tests the accuracy of the laser tracking, the same drives that balks at booting a netinst will often have no problems with a dvd image. If the md5 sum checks out then that (sic) will be the cause of your problem. (more error tolerance on outer track and disk spins slower) I use a pxe server for my installs but that shouldn't affect whether a burnt netinst iso boots for you or not. Just now finished downloading freshly baked netsint iso, so latest mirror updates are now complete. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6e21d7.3020...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 02/03/11 16:41, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web > site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to > install Debian 6, using it. > > However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from > the CD. > > I have previously installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, from a CD, on that > computer, without any problem. > > Is the Debian 6 netinst iso, not installabe, or, not bootable? > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > > > > What was the datestring on in mate? Which server did you pull it from? Did you pull it down as an image? http, bittorrent, or jigdo? Note: the au mirrors are currently updating, previously Sun Feb 6 02:34:05 2011 was the latest image (http://ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian-cd/ which is the Oz cd mirror) which I've installed without problem (expert acpi=force desktop=kde). Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6e18bc.60...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
Sorry I mixed the thread.It was a type error. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTimMA2kgnbDT=q03m85dwvbaxf69p8b9m7wyn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On 03/01/2011 11:41 PM, Bret Busby wrote: Hello. To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to install Debian 6, using it. However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from the CD. Error message(s)? I have previously installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, from a CD, on that computer, without any problem. Is the Debian 6 netinst iso, not installabe, or, not bootable? -- I prefer banana-flavored energy bars made from tofu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6df2fd.9090...@cox.net
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
Hi, I just installed a pv-ops Dom0 2.6.32.27 Kernel on a 64 bit non VT machine. Following instructions here http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/Xen4.0 for 64 bit Ubuntu 10.04 apt-get install bcc bin86 gawk bridge-utils iproute libcurl3 libcurl4-openssl-dev bzip2 module-init-tools transfig tgif texinfo texlive-latex-base texlive-latex-recommended texlive-fonts-extra texlive-fonts-recommended pciutils-dev mercurial build-essential make gcc libc6-dev zlib1g-dev python python-dev python-twisted libncurses5-dev patch libvncserver-dev libsdl-dev libjpeg62-dev iasl libbz2-dev e2fslibs-dev git-core uuid-dev ocaml libx11-dev bison flex apt-get install gcc-multilib apt-get install xz-utils make xen make tools make install-xen make install-tools PYTHON_PREFIX_ARG= I did not do make install-stubdom. It is a Ubuntu Desktop 10.04 amd64 bit version. Then as mentioned here on this guide http://bderzhavets.wordpress.com/2010/03/26/virst-installvirt-manager-at-xen-4-0-rc8-2-6-32-10-pvops-dom0-on-top-ubuntu-karmic-koala-server/ (I did not follow the above guide strictly) Commented out (xend-unix-server yes) in /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp , here is my xend-config.sxp http://pastebin.com/M8CfrqBc Then exported variable VIRSH_DEFAULT_CONNECT_URI=”xen:///” in root’s .bashrc. Then :- # apt-get install ubuntu-virt-server ubuntu-virt-mgmt Now when I open virt-manager the option to install from Local ISO or PXE are greyed out. virt-manager version is 0.8.2 virsh version shows following Compiled against library: libvir 0.7.5 Using library: libvir 0.7.5 Using API: QEMU 0.7.5 Running hypervisor: QEMU 0.12.3 Can above output be some kind of source to several existing problems? Though I am able to boot to pv-ops Dom0 kernel and xm info output confirms that. xm info host : tapas release: 2.6.32.27 version: #1 SMP Tue Mar 1 12:52:19 IST 2011 machine: x86_64 nr_cpus: 2 nr_nodes : 1 cores_per_socket : 2 threads_per_core : 1 cpu_mhz: 2100 hw_caps: bfebfbff:20100800::0940:0408e39d::0001: virt_caps : total_memory : 3036 free_memory: 128 node_to_cpu: node0:0-1 node_to_memory : node0:128 node_to_dma32_mem : node0:128 max_node_id: 0 xen_major : 4 xen_minor : 0 xen_extra : .1 xen_caps : xen-3.0-x86_64 xen-3.0-x86_32p xen_scheduler : credit xen_pagesize : 4096 platform_params: virt_start=0x8000 xen_changeset : unavailable xen_commandline: dummy=dummy cc_compiler: gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) cc_compile_by : root cc_compile_domain : cc_compile_date: Tue Mar 1 10:51:33 IST 2011 xend_config_format : 4 xm list NameID Mem VCPUs State Time(s) Domain-0 0 2870 2 r- 36.9 virt-install -n LucidPVG -r 512 --paravirt --vnc -f /dev/sda9 -c /home/tapas/Documents/ISO\'s/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso --debug Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:19:51 DEBUGLaunched with command line: /usr/bin/virt-install -n LucidPVG -r 512 --paravirt --vnc -f /dev/sda9 -c /home/tapas/Documents/ISO's/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso --debug Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:19:51 DEBUGRequesting libvirt URI default Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:19:51 DEBUGReceived libvirt URI xen:/// Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:19:51 DEBUGRequesting virt method 'xen', hv type 'default'. Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:19:51 DEBUGReceived virt method 'xen' Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:19:51 DEBUGHypervisor name is 'xen' Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:19:51 DEBUGCould not open "/etc/sysconfig/keyboard" [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/sysconfig/keyboard' Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:19:51 DEBUGCould not open "/etc/X11/xorg.conf": [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:19:51 ERRORParavirtualized guests cannot install off cdrom media. So this is the error this time I got.Since my machine is non VT 64 bit so I feel I will be able to run only 32 bit hvm or pvm guests.I am trying 32 bit Ubuntu 10.04 pv guest. Let me know if you think there any thing is wrong. I have in roots .bashrc as you said VIRSH_DEFAULT_CONNECT_URI=”xen:///” also the line in xend-config.sxp is uncommented. but after all this creation of a PV DomU (OS Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit) on a 64 bit Ubuntu 10.04 on a non VT 64 bit machine is failing. Let me know if some one has any clue about it? I am trying it on pv-ops Dom0 kernel 2.6.32.27 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=QYSo2pV7EiqOHMw2Ab10CHtMH=i8d5crsz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
Bret Busby wrote: Hello. To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to install Debian 6, using it. However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from the CD. I have previously installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, from a CD, on that computer, without any problem. Is the Debian 6 netinst iso, not installabe, or, not bootable? Debian is probably the most installable distro there is, I install it on all kinds of computers mac and pc. Do you use the F10 or maybe the F12 key to choose the boot device? Did you check the md5sum of the download or verify you have a good burn? Maybe you have finger prints on the outside edge of the cd? It's not a Live CD like Ubuntu and after doing the netinstall you will also need to know what software you want/need to install, the netinstall will give an internet connection and the base install only. -- Jimmy Johnson SimplyMEPIS 11.0 Beta-2 at sda12 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6dec8a.5040...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6 uninstallable?
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 05:41:54 Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web > site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to > install Debian 6, using it. > > However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from > the CD. > > I have previously installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, from a CD, on that > computer, without any problem. > > Is the Debian 6 netinst iso, not installabe, or, not bootable? I have successfully installed from the Squeeze netinst CD. Have you checked your download/burn for errors? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103020659.46963.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Debian 6 uninstallable?
Hello. To try to install Debian 6, I downloaded, as advised on the Debian web site, the Debian 6 netinst iso file, wrote it to a CD, and tried to install Debian 6, using it. However, the computer on which I tried to install it, did not boot from the CD. I have previously installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, from a CD, on that computer, without any problem. Is the Debian 6 netinst iso, not installabe, or, not bootable? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.1.10.1103021336480.7...@bretnewworkstation.busby.net