Re: Debian 6.2 and Systemd ?
Le 05.11.2014 13:23, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:49:57 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: When I install, I set up partitions with labels. This avoids UUIDs and uses labels instead. Many thanks; for setting the partitions with labels, is that an option in the install ? (Remember, I am new to Debian ;-3) Yes. You need to go for manual partitioning. But that is worth doing anyway. Yes, given that I have for a long time used separate partitions for /boot, /var, and /home. But I doubt that Debian installer will use those labels. Last time I checked, (current stable) it still used UUID in configuration files, even with LABELS defined by installer. But it's not that hard to fix this issue, there are not so many files dealing with partitions. I only know about /etc/lilo.conf (since I do not use grub) and fstab. Vim'em and you'll be done :) Then one of the options is setting a label. I don't know for sure that you cannot set a label via automatic partitioning. I just don't know that you can. I wonder how could an automatic labeling works. What if you have conflicting labels because of an external device is plugged in? if you have already installed Debian with Gnome. Applications - Accessories - Disk Utility You can set the partitions labels. Thanks, but having dropped Mageia so I could get rid of the KDE bloat, I'm not inclined to get into the Gnome bloat; and even more so when I read that Gnome will make systemd a dependency... There is gparted, which is located in gnome's part of aptitude tree, but trust me, this tool is neither bloated nor gnome-centric. You don't even have to install sudo or any variant. If you don't (as I) you simply need to run it as root, after a su. About the gnome's systemd dependency... well, AFAIK, gentoo managed to get rid of it, so it's still not that bad. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ff1425bf541b806eceac1f417ecbe...@neutralite.org
Debian 6.2 and Systemd ?
First posting here: I have been playing with GNU-Linux ever since Slackware came on a stack of 1.4 floppies, been using Linux on my desktop since 1999 (Mandrake 6.0), recently switched to a Debian derivative (SolydX) to get away from KDE, and am now thinking of going to Debian proper. Seems I have arrived in the middle of a heated controversy, about the merits of Systemd. Which brings me to ask three questions: - Installing Debian-XFCE 7.6 does this by default install/use systemd ? Is there a way to avoid this ? - Is there a way in Debian to avoid using udev which, I suspect, has been causing me untold grief in SolydX ? - Is there a way in Debian to avoid using UUIDs ? TIA Cheers, Ron, on the banks of the Paaguay River. -- He who says it cannot be done should never interrupt he who is doing it. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141105065244.0c3b1...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: Debian 6.2 and Systemd ?
On Wednesday 05 November 2014 09:52:44 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: am now thinking of going to Debian proper. Seems I have arrived in the middle of a heated controversy, about the merits of Systemd. Which brings me to ask three questions: - Installing Debian-XFCE 7.6 does this by default install/use systemd ? Is there a way to avoid this ? Debian 7 does not use systemd by default. - Is there a way in Debian to avoid using udev which, I suspect, has been causing me untold grief in SolydX ? There is in Debian. eudev mdev. But I don't know about Debian 7 and udev. I run Debian (now 7.7), with udev, without a problem. - Is there a way in Debian to avoid using UUIDs ? When I install, I set up partitions with labels. This avoids UUIDs and uses labels instead. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201411051031.52343.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 6.2 and Systemd ?
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 10:31:52 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: - Is there a way in Debian to avoid using UUIDs ? When I install, I set up partitions with labels. This avoids UUIDs and uses labels instead. Many thanks; for setting the partitions with labels, is that an option in the install ? (Remember, I am new to Debian ;-3) Cheers, Ron. -- Boob's Law: You always find something in the last place you look. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141105082259.6be6d...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: Debian 6.2 and Systemd ?
On Wednesday 05 November 2014 11:22:59 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: When I install, I set up partitions with labels. This avoids UUIDs and uses labels instead. Many thanks; for setting the partitions with labels, is that an option in the install ? (Remember, I am new to Debian ;-3) Yes. You need to go for manual partitioning. But that is worth doing anyway. Then one of the options is setting a label. I don't know for sure that you cannot set a label via automatic partitioning. I just don't know that you can. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201411051149.57219.lisi.re...@gmail.com
AW: Debian 6.2 and Systemd ?
Hi, if you have already installed Debian with Gnome. Applications - Accessories - Disk Utility You can set the partitions labels. Else: e2label partition labelname Cheers -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI [mailto:ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. November 2014 12:23 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: Debian 6.2 and Systemd ? On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 10:31:52 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: - Is there a way in Debian to avoid using UUIDs ? When I install, I set up partitions with labels. This avoids UUIDs and uses labels instead. Many thanks; for setting the partitions with labels, is that an option in the install ? (Remember, I am new to Debian ;-3) Cheers, Ron. -- Boob's Law: You always find something in the last place you look. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141105082259.6be6d...@ron.cerrocora.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/6b09b26dd4b7c84aac938fd365930e1bcb94546...@afmbx.autoform.com
Re: Debian 6.2 and Systemd ?
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:49:57 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: When I install, I set up partitions with labels. This avoids UUIDs and uses labels instead. Many thanks; for setting the partitions with labels, is that an option in the install ? (Remember, I am new to Debian ;-3) Yes. You need to go for manual partitioning. But that is worth doing anyway. Yes, given that I have for a long time used separate partitions for /boot, /var, and /home. Then one of the options is setting a label. I don't know for sure that you cannot set a label via automatic partitioning. I just don't know that you can. OK thanks for the advice, I'll follow that route. Tariq Doukkali tariq.doukk...@autoform.de wrote: if you have already installed Debian with Gnome. Applications - Accessories - Disk Utility You can set the partitions labels. Thanks, but having dropped Mageia so I could get rid of the KDE bloat, I'm not inclined to get into the Gnome bloat; and even more so when I read that Gnome will make systemd a dependency... Cheers, Ron. -- Boob's Law: You always find something in the last place you look. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141105092326.2fa78...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: Debian 6.2 and Systemd ?
On 11/5/14, Tariq Doukkali tariq.doukk...@autoform.de wrote: Hi, if you have already installed Debian with Gnome. Applications - Accessories - Disk Utility You can set the partitions labels. Else: e2label partition labelname I've never had luck going disk utility route only as user. Changes never seem to stick. Surely just a permissions thing aka a good thing because that's an important part of a system's operability. In those cases I sudo palimpsest (CLI, command line interface from within a terminal) before Edit Filesystem Label, and then it sticks.. :) Also just tried sudo gparted. By right clicking and unmounting a target partition, I was then offered the option to change the label name on the next right click over same.. e2label, first time I've heard that. Will be checking it out. I LOVE THIS LIST :) PS All the above? Prime example of. oh, what _is_ that word.. *CHOICE* Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with duct tape * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAO1P-kDdmqPozRjy=qtv+xsziuy5tuilxtfesayvakln0is...@mail.gmail.com
