Re: Debian Wheezy freezing
Hi, guys, how are you? On February, 2 I sent the e-mail below, about a problem I'm having with Debian on my Lenovo laptop. As suggested, I upgraded my kernel to 3.7 (the current trunk kernel at that moment), but it didn't solve the problem. So I returned to kernel 3.2 (my wifi didn't work on 3.7), and continued living with the problem. Once a week, sometimes once a day, and sometimes twice a day, the system freeze and I need to restart manually. The issue is more critical because I use the laptop at the job. But yesterday the system froze again, and I spent 3 hours scanning the entire /var/log directory, hoping to find any message that could help me understand the problem. So I finally found it! My problem is related to this bug[1], though I found the message EQ overflowing in file /var/log/gdm3/:0.log, not in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I'm so glad I found this bug report, which is exactly the problem I'm facing, and other people are facing this problem too. It means that it may take time, but a solution will be found someday. So I'm here to tell you guys that, though my experience with Linux is not that much, I'm a developer (currently working with C# since 2008, but spent three years with C before that) and I would be happy to help you solve this bug :) Regards, Will [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=680514 On 02-02-2013 09:36, William Ivanski wrote: Hi everybody, I have a Lenovo laptop, with CPU Intel Core i5, which I use to work. I installed Debian Wheezy and the system freezes randomly. No response to keyboard or mouse clicks, just mouse moves. Needed to restart all the times. I searched a lot about this problem, and many people suggest the installation of a newer kernel (current is 3.2). Currently, on kernel.org, stable release is 3.7.5. I never compiled a kernel before, so I am afraid of the problems it might create. I'm worried about virtualbox, which I installed through aptitude. I'm also considering upgrade to Debian unstable branch. It have a kernel newer than 3.2, doesn't it? So my questions are: 1) Which is better? Keep Debian Wheezy and compile a new kernel, or upgrade to Debian Sid? 2) Have you guys compiled a kernel before? How it was? Can you provide me a good tutorial about it? Any help will be much appreciated. Regards, Will
Re: Debian Wheezy freezing
Good time of the day, William. You wrote: 1) Which is better? Keep Debian Wheezy and compile a new kernel, or upgrade to Debian Sid? As many said, better to use other (newer) Debian repo.s. Consider upgrades. 2) Have you guys compiled a kernel before? How it was? Can you provide me a good tutorial about it? Yes. It is not hard. Even most default options will be OK - just compile, install and use. Sthu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/510e7928.6f88980a.4ba4.a...@mx.google.com
Re: Debian Wheezy freezing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/02/2013 12:36 PM, William Ivanski wrote: I have a Lenovo laptop, with CPU Intel Core i5, which I use to work. I installed Debian Wheezy and the system freezes randomly. No response to keyboard or mouse clicks, just mouse moves. Needed to restart all the times. I searched a lot about this problem, and many people suggest the installation of a newer kernel (current is 3.2). Currently, on kernel.org, stable release is 3.7.5. I never compiled a kernel before, so I am afraid of the problems it might create. I'm worried about virtualbox, which I installed through aptitude. I'm also considering upgrade to Debian unstable branch. It have a kernel newer than 3.2, doesn't it? So my questions are: 1) Which is better? Keep Debian Wheezy and compile a new kernel, or upgrade to Debian Sid? 2) Have you guys compiled a kernel before? How it was? Can you provide me a good tutorial about it? I had exactly the same issue on my lenovo, I installed the experimental kernel packages (linux-image-3.6-trunk-amd64 / 3.6.8-1~experimental.1), since then I've never had any more freezes. There is no need to build your own kernel. echo deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get update apt-get install linux-image-3.6-trunk-amd64 linux-headers-3.6-trunk-all-amd64 I think meanwhile the kernel is 3.7... Best Frank -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRDocRAAoJEBkoJgvmrcuiXqAH+wbmwPy8DgY37v4FaFr5Nqnw ivKubfpZK/+kPhkOGtL0XI2ejnGIAGwdPJCsnOxtZ82Rmq7FaIrk1JdqKPTspsfy ROyCWuGYSzuC9VRQ4jow4GjfIFMPGd6rsbi2qdtIccq3aDt7U4DYZIUhJ05TxVRT gFDDXf57klC9kW8d8/4eFR41WGdxlisud2h8GfvpB+oDxUrDtelCbcS9qTYF5Daf cCf8Uy1hiCJtfDGGZhNcgTlw/1iFMmek+x6YwwWdGfDhhzKU4sumYVoDtnpjMYGd 3NS2A9E8I0ZfzCLbpzkVr5uQkFl6xLgSViC+aArucaFLMns1Z3Ci2QtYbe2sUBI= =eVYm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/510e8711.4060...@dead-link.org
Debian Wheezy freezing
Hi everybody, I have a Lenovo laptop, with CPU Intel Core i5, which I use to work. I installed Debian Wheezy and the system freezes randomly. No response to keyboard or mouse clicks, just mouse moves. Needed to restart all the times. I searched a lot about this problem, and many people suggest the installation of a newer kernel (current is 3.2). Currently, on kernel.org, stable release is 3.7.5. I never compiled a kernel before, so I am afraid of the problems it might create. I'm worried about virtualbox, which I installed through aptitude. I'm also considering upgrade to Debian unstable branch. It have a kernel newer than 3.2, doesn't it? So my questions are: 1) Which is better? Keep Debian Wheezy and compile a new kernel, or upgrade to Debian Sid? 2) Have you guys compiled a kernel before? How it was? Can you provide me a good tutorial about it? Any help will be much appreciated. Regards, Will -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/510cfa35.9090...@gmail.com
Re: Debian Wheezy freezing
On 02/02/2013 01:36 PM, William Ivanski wrote: Hi everybody, I have a Lenovo laptop, with CPU Intel Core i5, which I use to work. I installed Debian Wheezy and the system freezes randomly. No response to keyboard or mouse clicks, just mouse moves. Needed to restart all the times. I searched a lot about this problem, and many people suggest the installation of a newer kernel (current is 3.2). Currently, on kernel.org, stable release is 3.7.5. I never compiled a kernel before, so I am afraid of the problems it might create. I'm worried about virtualbox, which I installed through aptitude. I'm also considering upgrade to Debian unstable branch. It have a kernel newer than 3.2, doesn't it? So my questions are: 1) Which is better? Keep Debian Wheezy and compile a new kernel, or upgrade to Debian Sid? 2) Have you guys compiled a kernel before? How it was? Can you provide me a good tutorial about it? Any help will be much appreciated. Regards, Will Hi William, as maybe you know Wheezy has been prepared to become a stable so with some exceptions Sid doesn't contain newer packages, only bug fixes. Compiling newer kernel is a time consuming operation and you have to know a lot about your hardware and kernel options. In my opinion you may do the following: - try to identify the problem e.g. look in the log files for errors and if you find something wrong, report it to debian community - install another Linux distribution with newer packages and test your hardware with newer software packages - try to compile and install newer linux kernel yourself. Best regards Georgi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/510d07ad.2090...@oles.biz
Re: Debian Wheezy freezing
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:36 AM, William Ivanski william.ivan...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Lenovo laptop, with CPU Intel Core i5, which I use to work. I installed Debian Wheezy and the system freezes randomly. No response to keyboard or mouse clicks, just mouse moves. Needed to restart all the times. I searched a lot about this problem, and many people suggest the installation of a newer kernel (current is 3.2). Currently, on kernel.org, stable release is 3.7.5. I never compiled a kernel before, so I am afraid of the problems it might create. I'm worried about virtualbox, which I installed through aptitude. I'm also considering upgrade to Debian unstable branch. It have a kernel newer than 3.2, doesn't it? So my questions are: 1) Which is better? Keep Debian Wheezy and compile a new kernel, or upgrade to Debian Sid? 2) Have you guys compiled a kernel before? How it was? Can you provide me a good tutorial about it? sid/unstable has the same kernel version as wheezy/testing because we're in freeze. This [1] is a good kernel compilation page by one of this lists members. You don't need to compile a kernel though; you can install 3.7.3 from experimental. 1) http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=szit0b-5pegth0e3+54pnkfegwetiq_whq5xexjp-8...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Wheezy freezing
Am Samstag, 2. Februar 2013 schrieb William Ivanski: Hi everybody, Hi William, I have a Lenovo laptop, with CPU Intel Core i5, which I use to work. I installed Debian Wheezy and the system freezes randomly. No response to keyboard or mouse clicks, just mouse moves. Needed to restart all the times. What is this laptop exactly? I have a ThinkPad T520 with Intel Core i5 Sandybridge and do not remember such a problem while I ran a 3.2 kernel (quite some time ago). But if this is an Ivybridge system, I can image that a newer kernel is needed. Yes, may be that Debian Wheezy when released will not provide a fully working out of the box experience on Ivybridge systems. I hope it does, but some stuff is really rather outdated already. I searched a lot about this problem, and many people suggest the installation of a newer kernel (current is 3.2). Currently, on kernel.org, stable release is 3.7.5. I never compiled a kernel before, so I am afraid of the problems it might create. I'm worried about virtualbox, which I installed through aptitude. I'm also considering upgrade to Debian unstable branch. It have a kernel newer than 3.2, doesn't it? So my questions are: 1) Which is better? Keep Debian Wheezy and compile a new kernel, or upgrade to Debian Sid? As hinted by others: Wheezy contains a 3.2 kernel as well: martin@merkaba:~ rmadison linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 | 3.2.35-2 | wheezy | amd64, i386 linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 | 3.2.35-2 | sid| amd64, i386 2) Have you guys compiled a kernel before? How it was? Can you provide me a good tutorial about it? I´d still suggest first trying with a newer kernel from Debian Experimental, like this one for 64-Bit: martin@merkaba:~ rmadison linux-headers-3.7-trunk-amd64 linux-headers-3.7-trunk-amd64 | 3.7.3-1~experimental.1 | experimental | amd64, i386 So you can easily see whether it fixes your issue without taking the effort to compile your own kernel. Beware tough that you may need newest virtualbox-source packages in order to compile VirtualBox for 3.7. It might not even work then. There have been problems. Check Compatibility with 3.7-trunk kernel http://bugs.debian.org/698607 According to this bug report compilation has been fixed with: virtualbox (4.1.18-dfsg-2.1) experimental; urgency=low I cannot tell for sure whether the fix works, cause I am on 3.8-rc6 already. I think the kernel package as well as the virtualbox package will be installable just fine under Wheezy. You need to add the experimental branch of the Debian repository tough. Standard priority of it is that low that there is no risk of accidentally upgrading Wheezy packages to it. That would look like this: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib (adapt to your Debian mirror) But as for the trunk kernel packages: They move quickly. Thus in time for newer kernel they may diverge too much from Wheezy to installable without a backport. Thus if going that route, I´d suggest looking for an official backport kernel every now and then after Wheezy has been released. I think it will be crucial to provide one, cause otherwise Wheezy will not run on well Intel Haswell hardware which is being released this year. That said, I see no reason why a once installed trunk kernel won´t continue to run for the lifetime of Wheezy. (It will not receive security support, once the Debian kernel team moved to the next kernel, thus I´d still prefer a backport kernel unless I move along with testing or sid:) Debian Stable is a bit tooo stable for current hardware development speeds even tough Intel developers develop upto three generations of hardware in order that support for it may reach distributions early enough. Most Haswell patches were ready end of last year and some patches for Broadwell, the successor for Haswell have already landed. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201302021836.01162.mar...@lichtvoll.de
