Re: Debian and wireless network cards

2005-08-03 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 09:07:50AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 08:06:17PM -0400, Leonid Grinberg wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me
  about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell
  me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't
  know).
 
 I posted this question last week when I lost the antenna to my Netgear
 MA211 wireless lan card and was advised the best uptodate info was at
 
   http://Linux-Wireless.org
 
 That didn't help much.  I then went to 
 
   www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan-adapters.html.gz
 
 because I use the linux-wlan-ng=0.2.1-pre26 driver with my Netgear MA311
 card.  From the table I ordered a 3com 3crdw696 PCI wireless lan card
 for my second computer.  I have not yet received the card and will
 confirm that it works with the linux-wlan-ng driver when it comes.  This
 is old technology - 802.11b - but with a DSL connection downloads run at
 70 to 90 kBps.  New 3com cards were being sold at $ 29.

The 3com card does work with the linux-wlan-ng driver but the range is
terrible.  In the same location where the Netgear MA311 card is
connecting with a weak but acceptable signal the 3com card drops 25% of
the packets when pinging the base station.
 
 Others may have better advice - it was frustrating trying to find the
 latest and best information.
 
 Tom George
 
  
  Thanks,
  Leonid Grinberg
 
 
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Re: Debian and wireless network cards

2005-07-24 Thread Nate Duehr

Thomas H. George wrote:


Others may have better advice - it was frustrating trying to find the
latest and best information.


Mostly the manufacturer's fault.  When there's four devices called 
[model number] and no version numbers, who's to blame for all the 
confusion?


Or perhaps they enjoy confusing customers who buy their products based 
on the product name.


Still looking for a hardware vendor to support that is actively avoiding 
this silliness who also provides ample support to the Linux driver 
writers for their cards.


Nate


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Re: Debian and wireless network cards

2005-07-23 Thread Thomas H. George
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 08:06:17PM -0400, Leonid Grinberg wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me
 about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell
 me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't
 know).

I posted this question last week when I lost the antenna to my Netgear
MA211 wireless lan card and was advised the best uptodate info was at

http://Linux-Wireless.org

That didn't help much.  I then went to 

www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan-adapters.html.gz

because I use the linux-wlan-ng=0.2.1-pre26 driver with my Netgear MA311
card.  From the table I ordered a 3com 3crdw696 PCI wireless lan card
for my second computer.  I have not yet received the card and will
confirm that it works with the linux-wlan-ng driver when it comes.  This
is old technology - 802.11b - but with a DSL connection downloads run at
70 to 90 kBps.  New 3com cards were being sold at $ 29.

Others may have better advice - it was frustrating trying to find the
latest and best information.

Tom George

 
 Thanks,
 Leonid Grinberg


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Re: Debian and wireless network cards

2005-07-23 Thread Damon Chesser
On Thursday 21 July 2005 19:06, Leonid Grinberg wrote:
 Hello,

 I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me
 about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell
 me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't
 know).

 Thanks,
 Leonid Grinberg
Leonid,
Two cards have worked for me: 1. SMC EX Connect G Mod# SMC2835W it uses the 
Prism54 driver which is in 2.6 series kernel, you need to download the 
Firmware (a file the tells the card how to work) and put it 
in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware ( see http://prism54.org/~mcgrof/firmware/ and 
www.prism54.org )

2. Orinoco gold 11b/g PC card Mod# 8470-FC .  This card is by far the better 
of the two in that it allows you to use WPA if you need it.  Both use WEP.  
The Orinoco uses Atheros drivers and is slightly harder to install.  see 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/, http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/, 
the best up and running instructions are http://www.madwifi.net/.  You will 
need to have a dev. environment set up (gcc, debhelper, sysutils, and a few 
more I don't remember) But don't dispare!  on irc Freenode server #madwifi 
channel you can get friendly help.  It all is realy easy, but time consuming 
the first time and requires a kernel compile or kernel headers installed.  

I hope that helps.  Yes it all is very hard to get info on wireless.  But that 
is becuse of the MFG all just change the chipset on the fly and don't bother 
to change the model numbers.  That and the drivers are protected IP (such as 
the Prism54 family) and have to be backwards engineered.  


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Re: Debian and wireless network cards

2005-07-23 Thread Damon Chesser
On Thursday 21 July 2005 19:06, Leonid Grinberg wrote:
 Hello,

 I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me
 about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell
 me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't
 know).

 Thanks,
 Leonid Grinberg
Leonid,
Two cards have worked for me: 1. SMC EX Connect G Mod# SMC2835W it uses the 
Prism54 driver which is in 2.6 series kernel, you need to download the 
Firmware (a file the tells the card how to work) and put it 
in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware ( see http://prism54.org/~mcgrof/firmware/ and 
www.prism54.org )

2. Orinoco gold 11b/g PC card Mod# 8470-FC .  This card is by far the better 
of the two in that it allows you to use WPA if you need it.  Both use WEP.  
The Orinoco uses Atheros drivers and is slightly harder to install.  see 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/, http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/, 
the best up and running instructions are http://www.madwifi.net/.  You will 
need to have a dev. environment set up (gcc, debhelper, sysutils, and a few 
more I don't remember) But don't dispare!  on irc Freenode server #madwifi 
channel you can get friendly help.  It all is realy easy, but time consuming 
the first time and requires a kernel compile or kernel headers installed.  

I hope that helps.  Yes it all is very hard to get info on wireless.  But that 
is becuse of the MFG all just change the chipset on the fly and don't bother 
to change the model numbers.  That and the drivers are protected IP (such as 
the Prism54 family) and have to be backwards engineered.  

Addendium: Omitted the first time:

The Orinoco goes by the name of Proxim and  can be purchased online.  To use 
WPA I advise you apt-getting wpasupplicant.  
Read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant to set it up.  Once again, it is easy, but 
you have to read.


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Re: Debian and wireless network cards

2005-07-23 Thread Brian Kimball
I just solved this dilemma two days ago.  I found the hawking hwp54g 
works well and is pretty inexpensive.  Hawking has used a few different 
chipsets but IIRC they all have linux drivers in varying degrees of 
development.  The one that I bought has a Ralink rt2500 chipset, and 
the driver for it is actually based on code donated to the community 
from Ralink, which is always a good sign.

http://www.hawkingtech.com/prodSpec.php?ProdID=180
http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page


Leonid Grinberg wrote:
 Hello,

 I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me
 about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell
 me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I
 wouldn't know).

 Thanks,
 Leonid Grinberg


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Re: Debian and wireless network cards

2005-07-22 Thread Maykon Silveira
I have an D-link DWL-650 working with Debian Sarge kernel 2.6.

2005/7/21, Leonid Grinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello,
 
 I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me
 about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell
 me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't
 know).
 
 Thanks,
 Leonid Grinberg
 
 


-- 
Maykon Silveira



Debian and wireless network cards

2005-07-21 Thread Leonid Grinberg
Hello,

I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me
about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell
me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't
know).

Thanks,
Leonid Grinberg



Re: Debian and wireless network cards

2005-07-21 Thread Alvin Oga


On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Leonid Grinberg wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me
 about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell
 me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't
 know).

all wireless cards will work  if you're willing to sacrifice features
- linux can use the ndiswrapper and use the windoze driver
from the cdrom that came with the nic



if you want to build a wireless AP or wpa ..

- you will need either the hostap driver or madwifi driver
and see which cards it supports

- be careful of old models and new models with the same part
number but differs in which wifi chip is used on the pci/pcmcia 
cards

---

if you want wep, you can use most any other linux supported wifi cards

- if you're using wep as your security mechanism, 
than consider your machine pre-hacked and keep all your
bank info elsewhere


- run everything with ssh/ssl if you're paranoid 
ssh, pop3s, imaps, https, ..

---

easier way:
a. see what is on sale and search for the linux drivers
b. see what your buddy is using and use that wifi card


more wifi fun
Linux-Wireless.org

c ya
alvin

-- for those that are looking to do a mediaum range 5-10 miles wifi,
   i've got two 24db wifi antenna that we'll be testing


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