Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)

1998-04-21 Thread Peter S Galbraith


I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic :

:0
* ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian

It fails on mail from a few users, for which the `From' line is not
the Debian mailing list:

  Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Norbert Veber [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I notice that these failed messages are also all in MIME (coincidence?).
I wonder if the following quote is related to that:

  Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   This machine is icarus2.dyn.ml.org.  Therefore, my MTA generated From
   line is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This has started to fail recently, but a few other things have changed
also.  Instead of receiving my mail directly to my Debian box, I get it
from an NT server using fetchmail release 4.2.2 using POP3.  Is fetchmail
or the NT server changing the `From' line?

Has anyone seen this happen too?

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Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)

1998-04-21 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

 I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic :
 
 :0
 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 debian

I would not trust the From line.
Why don't you just use the Resent-Sender field?

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Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)

1998-04-21 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic :

   :0
   * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   debian

I suggest you use the X-Mailing-List header instead.  It's added by
the mailing list manager, so it gets added to every mailing list
message.


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Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)

1998-04-21 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 09:22:16AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
 I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic :
 
 :0
 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 debian
 
 It fails on mail from a few users, for which the `From' line is not
 the Debian mailing list:
 
   Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My procmail recipe is

:0:
* ^TOdebian-user.*
debian-user

this works for all messages sent to the list.

Nils

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Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)

1998-04-21 Thread Stephen Carpenter
I used to use that also but a number of them got through
I don't think that handles cc: to the list
-Steve

Nils Rennebarth wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 09:22:16AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
  I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic :
 
  :0
  * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  debian
 
  It fails on mail from a few users, for which the `From' line is not
  the Debian mailing list:
 
Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 My procmail recipe is

 :0:
 * ^TOdebian-user.*
 debian-user

 this works for all messages sent to the list.

 Nils

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Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)

1998-04-21 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Santiago Vila Doncel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
 
  I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic :
  
  :0
  * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  debian
 
 I would not trust the From line.
 Why don't you just use the Resent-Sender field?

This works mostly, but again a few people have a Resent-Sender added
to their mail before it goes to the listserver, and they then slip
through.  I've found the X-Mailing-List header to be the most reliable
way of sorting.  (Of course, if debian's listserv added a received:
header that told for whom the message was received, I might key off
that as I do for some non-debian lists).


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Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)

1998-04-21 Thread Joel Klecker
At 10:14 -0400 1998-04-21, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
Nils Rennebarth wrote:
 * ^TOdebian-user.*
 debian-user
I used to use that also but a number of them got through
I don't think that handles cc: to the list

From procmailrc(5):

   If  the  regular expression contains `^TO' it will be sub-
   stituted by `(^((Original-)?(Resent-)?(To|Cc|Bcc)|(X-
   Envelope|Apparently(-Resent)?)-To):(.*[^a-zA-Z])?)', which
   should catch all destination specifications containing a
   specific word.

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Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)

1998-04-21 Thread Stephen Carpenter
ahhh OOPS!
I tottally forgot about that one!
I still prefer ^X-Mailing-List: .
since you know debian-user puts it in...(also that way if a messgae is sent to
you directly AND to the list...the version that went through the list
get ssorted in the list folder and the copy directly to you goes in you inbox
This brings upa  thought
what if you didn't want that behaviour and actually wanted the duplicate mail
which would differ only by a few headers (a coupld of recieved, an X-Loop
(from debian-user) and the X-Mailing-List, to be lost (so that you only get 1
copy of the mail and only read one)?
Could that be easily done?
I wonder
(hmm possibly use an external script which would grep the folder
for that identical message ID and not deliver it if that ID shows up??)
-Steve

Joel Klecker wrote:

 At 10:14 -0400 1998-04-21, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
 Nils Rennebarth wrote:
  * ^TOdebian-user.*
  debian-user
 I used to use that also but a number of them got through
 I don't think that handles cc: to the list

 From procmailrc(5):

If  the  regular expression contains `^TO' it will be sub-
stituted by `(^((Original-)?(Resent-)?(To|Cc|Bcc)|(X-
Envelope|Apparently(-Resent)?)-To):(.*[^a-zA-Z])?)', which
should catch all destination specifications containing a
specific word.

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