Re: please help! debian won't boot

2017-12-20 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 13-12-2017, at 23h 02'29", Jason Brenkus wrote about "Re: please help! 
debian won't boot"
> By cursor what I mean is a flashing underscore line. I tried reinstalling
> grub2 using super grub. At first I didn't think anything happened, but now
> I'm getting more then a blinking cursor.  The screen now says #floppy0: no
> floppy controllers found
> # r8169 :03:00.0 eth0: link up
> # Ipv6: ADDCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready.
> 
> I tried to record the script that show before this screen and it looks like
> there is a lot loading, but I saw one place in the script that had a red
> FAILED and it looks like it says #failed to start load kernel modules
> It would probably be easier to reinstall, but I'm trying to learn linux.
> Any more suggestions?
> 

Not more that what already was discussed. It looks like your Debian
boots fine. Try to access a console with Ctrl-Alt-Fn, where n=2-6, or
with Shift-Fn, if Ctrl-Alt-Fn doesn't work. Then login at the console
and check the logs.

If you have another computer you can try to ping or even ssh into this
Debian box. You can check your router and try to identify from the
dhcp clients list which one can be your Debian box.

If you have no other computers and you can't get into any console, try
to boot with a live disk, mount the harddrive and check the logs for
clues on what went wrong.

My best guess at the moment is that your kdm/gdm/xdm and X11 cannot
start due to a faulty xorg.conf file. All those messages that
disappeared are still there. You can get back to it with Ctrl-Alt-F1
or Shift-F1.


Ionel



Re: please help! debian won't boot

2017-12-14 Thread Felix Miata
Jason Brenkus composed on 2017-12-13 23:02 (UTC-0800):

> By cursor what I mean is a flashing underscore line. I tried reinstalling
> grub2 using super grub. At first I didn't think anything happened, but now
> I'm getting more then a blinking cursor.  The screen now says #floppy0: no
> floppy controllers found
> # r8169 :03:00.0 eth0: link up
> # Ipv6: ADDCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready. 

Did you try keying in Ctrl-Alt-F2 after seeing nothing more?

> I tried to record the script that show before this screen and it looks like
> there is a lot loading, but I saw one place in the script that had a red
> FAILED and it looks like it says #failed to start load kernel modules
> It would probably be easier to reinstall, but I'm trying to learn linux.
> Any more suggestions? 

What did you mean when you wrote "recover mode"? Was that a Grub menu choice?
Were there any other menu choices available, such as prior kernel? You could try
appending to the main grub selection "plymouth.enable=0', and/or removing any
cmdline options mentioning modeset, quiet, splash, gfxmode, vga and/or video.
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Re: please help! debian won't boot

2017-12-13 Thread Jude DaShiell
When you downloaded what you used to install debian, did the file have a 
.torrent on the end of it?  If not you may have better luck by using a 
bittorrent client and downloading the torrent form of the file.  Reason 
is integrity checks get done as you download and it could be you got a 
bad download using another form of download file.  Another suggestion I 
would make since you may have some pretty far out hardware is to 
download the image that starts with firmware- and ends with .torrent. 
It should also have x86 somewhere in the name of the image to match as 
closely as possible your hardware.  Good luck.


On Wed, 13 Dec 2017, Jason Brenkus wrote:


Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 02:02:29
From: Jason Brenkus <jasonbren...@gmail.com>
To: Ionel Mugurel Ciob?c? <i.m.ciob...@gmail.com>,
debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: please help! debian won't boot
Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 07:02:48 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

By cursor what I mean is a flashing underscore line. I tried reinstalling
grub2 using super grub. At first I didn't think anything happened, but now
I'm getting more then a blinking cursor.  The screen now says #floppy0: no
floppy controllers found
# r8169 :03:00.0 eth0: link up
# Ipv6: ADDCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready.

I tried to record the script that show before this screen and it looks like
there is a lot loading, but I saw one place in the script that had a red
FAILED and it looks like it says #failed to start load kernel modules
It would probably be easier to reinstall, but I'm trying to learn linux.
Any more suggestions?

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Ionel Mugurel Ciob?c? <
i.m.ciob...@gmail.com> wrote:


On 13-12-2017, at 19h 55'54", Pascal Hambourg wrote about "Re: please
help! debian won't boot"

Le 13/12/2017 ? 10:54, Ionel Mugurel Ciob?c? a ?crit :

On 13-12-2017, at 01h 41'15", Jason Brenkus wrote about "please help!

debian won't boot"

I am a novice to linux, and I'm in over my head. I'm not sure what went
wrong or went. I am running Jessie. On startup the pc begins to load

and

then goes to a screen with nothing but a cursor. Then nothing happens

no

matter how long i wait. If i boot in to recover mode i get a screen

that

says #IPv6: ADDRCONF (NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready. And no
amount of waiting changes it. I had trouble getting the correct

drivers for

my gpu which is a amd radeon r9 270 i believe. The last thing i did

before

the system didn't boot was install a mining program.


Not knowing that is wrong I would reinstall grub.


IMO it would be a total waste of time. What makes you think that GRUB is
broken ?


When you do not know too much about what is the status of the system
anything may be a total waste of time.

In the past when using Lilo I got this kind of behaviour. Instead of
loading the kernel, just after BIOS I would ket a blinking cursor.


It is important to know if the system stops before or after
loading the kernel, etc.


We already know. The above message happens when the ethernet interface is
activated, which means that the kernel was loaded and started, the

initramfs

was loaded and did its job and the init system started its tasks.


Then you know more than me. I will say then that X config is broken.

What induced me in error was the word cursor. For me that was in tty1
a blinking underscore line. What Jason may have meant was an X shape
mouse, for example.

Ionel






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Re: please help! debian won't boot

2017-12-13 Thread Jason Brenkus
By cursor what I mean is a flashing underscore line. I tried reinstalling
grub2 using super grub. At first I didn't think anything happened, but now
I'm getting more then a blinking cursor.  The screen now says #floppy0: no
floppy controllers found
# r8169 :03:00.0 eth0: link up
# Ipv6: ADDCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready.

I tried to record the script that show before this screen and it looks like
there is a lot loading, but I saw one place in the script that had a red
FAILED and it looks like it says #failed to start load kernel modules
It would probably be easier to reinstall, but I'm trying to learn linux.
Any more suggestions?

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă <
i.m.ciob...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 13-12-2017, at 19h 55'54", Pascal Hambourg wrote about "Re: please
> help! debian won't boot"
> > Le 13/12/2017 à 10:54, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă a écrit :
> > >On 13-12-2017, at 01h 41'15", Jason Brenkus wrote about "please help!
> debian won't boot"
> > >>I am a novice to linux, and I'm in over my head. I'm not sure what went
> > >>wrong or went. I am running Jessie. On startup the pc begins to load
> and
> > >>then goes to a screen with nothing but a cursor. Then nothing happens
> no
> > >>matter how long i wait. If i boot in to recover mode i get a screen
> that
> > >>says #IPv6: ADDRCONF (NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready. And no
> > >>amount of waiting changes it. I had trouble getting the correct
> drivers for
> > >>my gpu which is a amd radeon r9 270 i believe. The last thing i did
> before
> > >>the system didn't boot was install a mining program.
> > >
> > >Not knowing that is wrong I would reinstall grub.
> >
> > IMO it would be a total waste of time. What makes you think that GRUB is
> > broken ?
>
> When you do not know too much about what is the status of the system
> anything may be a total waste of time.
>
> In the past when using Lilo I got this kind of behaviour. Instead of
> loading the kernel, just after BIOS I would ket a blinking cursor.
>
> > >It is important to know if the system stops before or after
> > >loading the kernel, etc.
> >
> > We already know. The above message happens when the ethernet interface is
> > activated, which means that the kernel was loaded and started, the
> initramfs
> > was loaded and did its job and the init system started its tasks.
>
> Then you know more than me. I will say then that X config is broken.
>
> What induced me in error was the word cursor. For me that was in tty1
> a blinking underscore line. What Jason may have meant was an X shape
> mouse, for example.
>
> Ionel
>
>


Re: please help! debian won't boot

2017-12-13 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 13-12-2017, at 19h 55'54", Pascal Hambourg wrote about "Re: please help! 
debian won't boot"
> Le 13/12/2017 à 10:54, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă a écrit :
> >On 13-12-2017, at 01h 41'15", Jason Brenkus wrote about "please help! debian 
> >won't boot"
> >>I am a novice to linux, and I'm in over my head. I'm not sure what went
> >>wrong or went. I am running Jessie. On startup the pc begins to load and
> >>then goes to a screen with nothing but a cursor. Then nothing happens no
> >>matter how long i wait. If i boot in to recover mode i get a screen that
> >>says #IPv6: ADDRCONF (NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready. And no
> >>amount of waiting changes it. I had trouble getting the correct drivers for
> >>my gpu which is a amd radeon r9 270 i believe. The last thing i did before
> >>the system didn't boot was install a mining program.
> >
> >Not knowing that is wrong I would reinstall grub.
> 
> IMO it would be a total waste of time. What makes you think that GRUB is
> broken ?

When you do not know too much about what is the status of the system
anything may be a total waste of time.

In the past when using Lilo I got this kind of behaviour. Instead of
loading the kernel, just after BIOS I would ket a blinking cursor.

> >It is important to know if the system stops before or after
> >loading the kernel, etc.
> 
> We already know. The above message happens when the ethernet interface is
> activated, which means that the kernel was loaded and started, the initramfs
> was loaded and did its job and the init system started its tasks.

Then you know more than me. I will say then that X config is broken.

What induced me in error was the word cursor. For me that was in tty1
a blinking underscore line. What Jason may have meant was an X shape
mouse, for example.

Ionel



Re: please help! debian won't boot

2017-12-13 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Le 13/12/2017 à 10:54, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă a écrit :

On 13-12-2017, at 01h 41'15", Jason Brenkus wrote about "please help! debian won't 
boot"

I am a novice to linux, and I'm in over my head. I'm not sure what went
wrong or went. I am running Jessie. On startup the pc begins to load and
then goes to a screen with nothing but a cursor. Then nothing happens no
matter how long i wait. If i boot in to recover mode i get a screen that
says #IPv6: ADDRCONF (NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready. And no
amount of waiting changes it. I had trouble getting the correct drivers for
my gpu which is a amd radeon r9 270 i believe. The last thing i did before
the system didn't boot was install a mining program.


Not knowing that is wrong I would reinstall grub.


IMO it would be a total waste of time. What makes you think that GRUB is 
broken ?



It is important to know if the system stops before or after
loading the kernel, etc.


We already know. The above message happens when the ethernet interface 
is activated, which means that the kernel was loaded and started, the 
initramfs was loaded and did its job and the init system started its tasks.




Re: please help! debian won't boot

2017-12-13 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 13-12-2017, at 01h 41'15", Jason Brenkus wrote about "please help! debian 
won't boot"
> I am a novice to linux, and I'm in over my head. I'm not sure what went
> wrong or went. I am running Jessie. On startup the pc begins to load and
> then goes to a screen with nothing but a cursor. Then nothing happens no
> matter how long i wait. If i boot in to recover mode i get a screen that
> says #IPv6: ADDRCONF (NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready. And no
> amount of waiting changes it. I had trouble getting the correct drivers for
> my gpu which is a amd radeon r9 270 i believe. The last thing i did before
> the system didn't boot was install a mining program.


Hi,

Not knowing that is wrong I would reinstall grub. Boot with a live
disk or with the install disk and reinstall grub. If you need help
with all the steps please ask. But also try to capture the last two
lines or so when the system is booting before it gets to the blank
screen. It is important to know if the system stops before or after
loading the kernel, etc.

Good luck.

Ionel


P.S. I took the liberty to correct debain into debian.



Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 09:59:32AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
 Kent West wrote:
[..]
  you can get a live version of Debian in page
  http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/
[..]
 Uh, oh. Now I've got a choice of bt-cd or iso-cd (as well as a
 couple of others). Not knowing what bt stands for, I'll guess I'm

I think the bt stands for bittorrent. 

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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 06:59:43PM -0700, Vwaju wrote:
 For months, I have been booting Debian 3.1 every day and experimenting
 with networking tools.  Today I didn't do much except read man pages,
 and I'm not aware of doing anything to change any configuration, but
 when I rebooted my computer it stalled out at
 
 INIT: Entering runlevel 2
 
 After it hangs here, it starts printing out messages of the form:
 
 Out of Memory: Killed process 2253 (sysklogd)
 
 If I scroll back on the monitor, there are a number of messages like
 this:
 
 modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting pciehp
 modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting shpchp
 modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting hw_random
 modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting rtc
 
  What is going on here?
 
 Is there any way to boot in this circumstance?

Since it hangs after entering runlevel 2, you may try booting single
(runlevel 1).  If it still hangs, try booting with init=/bin/sh which
will not run any initscripts.  You can then run them in order with a
'start' paratmeter.  This way, you'll figure out exactly where the
problem is.

Doug.


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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue,31.Mar.09, 18:59:43, Vwaju wrote:
 
 Is there any way to boot in this circumstance?

Do you have a live CD or similar?

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Vwaju
  Is there any way to boot in this circumstance?

 Do you have a live CD or similar?


I'm afraid not.  How do I get one?

Thanks for your help, Andrei

Best,
Vwaju
NYC


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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,01.Apr.09, 04:56:49, Vwaju wrote:
   Is there any way to boot in this circumstance?
 
  Do you have a live CD or similar?
 
 
 I'm afraid not.  How do I get one?

http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/

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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Francisco Antônio da Silva Souza
Hi Vwaju,
you can get a live version of Debian in page
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/

This is the official page of the project:
http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/

Regards,
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   Is there any way to boot in this circumstance?
 
  Do you have a live CD or similar?
 

 I'm afraid not.  How do I get one?

 Thanks for your help, Andrei

 Best,
 Vwaju
 NYC


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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:59:43 -0700, Vwaju posted:

 For months, I have been booting Debian 3.1 every day and experimenting
 with networking tools.  
 [...]

I'd suggest you consider upgrading because Sarge has not been receiving
security updates since last March. Of course, it might not matter to you
if the system is never connected to the Internet or used by users other
than yourself and you are sure it hasn't been or can't be compromised. I
don't mean to suggest the issue you detailed is due to compromise. 




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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Vwaju
Thanks, Andrei and Francisco!

Best Regards,

Vwaju
New York City


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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Vwaju
I'm guessing the image I need is

debian-live-500-i386-rescue.iso

from

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/iso-cd/

Would that be right?

Best, Vwaju


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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Kent West
Francisco Antônio da Silva Souza wrote:
 Hi Vwaju,
 you can get a live version of Debian in page
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/

So when I go to this page I get an option of amd64 or i386. Which
one do I want for a general-purpose boot-on-almost-any-machine,
including an Intel Mac, CD? (I assume since Ubuntu LiveCDs and Knoppix
LiveCDs, etc, can boot on most any machine, Debian's LiveCD has similar
capabilities.)



 This is the official page of the project:
 http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/

[WARNING: Semi-OT rant ahead]

When I go to this page, I get the manual that seems to talk about
rolling your own LiveCD; nothing wrong with that, but how's a newbie who
has been in Windows-land all his life and has just heard about this
Debian thingy supposed to know what to do with this? He's just been told
to download the Debian LiveCD as a try-it-out demo, but he's clueless.
I'm not a newbie, but I'm having a hard time figuring out which LiveCD
image to download.

I believe Debian is a wonderful project; I believe the developers and
documentation writers have done the world a tremendous service. But I
sometimes find Debian documentation to be too terse for non-developers
who aren't familiar already with the code and the ins-and-outs of the
system. (And please, any documentation writers, please date your
documentation, so we'll know if it's current or not. Thanks!).

(I have a similar complaint about the site at
http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com . I absolutely LOVE the concept, but
for someone who has never installed Debian from this site, the
documentation on that site does nothing to reassure the newbie that he's
not about to install a virus, or wipe his Windows/data completely, or
even what Debian is/does. I'd also love it if it were possible to start
the Debian installation by browsing to this site from a LiveCD, so that
in the case of a computer without a working Windows OS/browser, a person
could still install Debian.)

[/End of rant]

I'm going to guess that the amd64 is not just for AMD, but is rather
for modern chipsets, and I'll download/burn that ISO. (My assumption is
also based on the idea that i386 seems antiquated.) If I'm wrong, it's
just a CD and the time necessary for downloading.

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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 15:44:06 Kent West wrote:
 how's a newbie who
 has been in Windows-land all his life and has just heard about this
 Debian thingy supposed to know what to do with this? He's just been told
 to download the Debian LiveCD as a try-it-out demo, but he's clueless.
 I'm not a newbie, but I'm having a hard time figuring out which LiveCD
 image to download.

FWIW, I recommend the one for your favourite desktop (provided it is there) 
and, if you want only one, then the i386.  64 bit processors can use 32 bit.  
The reverse is not true.

Mind you, it is a brave Windows fugitive who goes straight to Debian!  I 
stared with one that hand-held a bit more.

Again, for what it is worth, I keep a little pile of different Live CDs.  I 
find that it is horses for courses.

HTH
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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote:
 Francisco Antônio da Silva Souza wrote:
   
 Hi Vwaju,
 you can get a live version of Debian in page
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/
 

 So when I go to this page I get an option of amd64 or i386. Which
 one do I want for a general-purpose boot-on-almost-any-machine,
 including an Intel Mac, CD? (I assume since Ubuntu LiveCDs and Knoppix
 LiveCDs, etc, can boot on most any machine, Debian's LiveCD has similar
 capabilities.)
   

 I'm going to guess that the amd64 is not just for AMD, but is rather
 for modern chipsets, and I'll download/burn that ISO. (My assumption is
 also based on the idea that i386 seems antiquated.) If I'm wrong, it's
 just a CD and the time necessary for downloading.
   

Uh, oh. Now I've got a choice of bt-cd or iso-cd (as well as a
couple of others). Not knowing what bt stands for, I'll guess I'm
supposed to download the iso-cd.


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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote:
 Kent West wrote:
   
 Francisco Antônio da Silva Souza wrote:
   
 
 Hi Vwaju,
 you can get a live version of Debian in page
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/
 
   
 So when I go to this page I get an option of amd64 or i386. Which
 one do I want for a general-purpose boot-on-almost-any-machine,
 including an Intel Mac, CD? (I assume since Ubuntu LiveCDs and Knoppix
 LiveCDs, etc, can boot on most any machine, Debian's LiveCD has similar
 capabilities.)
   
 

   
 I'm going to guess that the amd64 is not just for AMD, but is rather
 for modern chipsets, and I'll download/burn that ISO. (My assumption is
 also based on the idea that i386 seems antiquated.) If I'm wrong, it's
 just a CD and the time necessary for downloading.
   
 

   
Okay, wrong guess. I'll try the i386 variant now.

 Uh, oh. Now I've got a choice of bt-cd or iso-cd (as well as a
 couple of others). Not knowing what bt stands for, I'll guess I'm
 supposed to download the iso-cd.
   

Apparently the right guess. It burned successfully, at least.

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Re: Debian won't boot

2009-04-01 Thread C. G. Montgomery
Vwaju wrote:

 For months, I have been booting Debian 3.1 every day and experimenting
 with networking tools.  Today I didn't do much except read man pages,
 and I'm not aware of doing anything to change any configuration, but
 when I rebooted my computer it stalled out at
 
 INIT: Entering runlevel 2
 
 After it hangs here, it starts printing out messages of the form:
 
 Out of Memory: Killed process 2253 (sysklogd)
 
 If I scroll back on the monitor, there are a number of messages like
 this:
 
 modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting pciehp
 modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting shpchp
 modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting hw_random
 modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting rtc
 
  What is going on here?
  ...

I have been running Debian testing for years, upgrading regularly and
rebooting very seldom.  Two days ago I rebooted for the first time in a
long while, and it failed with Out of Memory messages.  It proceeded to
kill processes until it killed everything but init, and then just
scrolled error messages until I had to pull the plug.

There were two different stock kernels installed, and the behavior was
exactly the same for both of them.

I tried booting from an OpenCD disk, which is a live Ubuntu system.  There
were no errors reported, and hardware detection and initialization all
seemed to go well.  But when it got starting up X, all I got was a brown
screen with a cursor, no menus, no response to the keyboard, and no way
to do anything (but pull the plug again).

The machine is now in the shop.  Because of failing with two different
kernels and the live CD, I guessed it was probably a hardware rather than
a software problem.  Now the shop has tested memory and disk and found no
problems.  They are Windows people and know very little about Linux. 
They don't know what to try next, and neither do I.

I'd really appreciate any thoughts about what may be going wrong, or
suggestions of things to try.  (I'm sending this from a very similar
machine which I don't dare reboot!)

TIA   cgm


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Debian won't boot

2009-03-31 Thread Vwaju
For months, I have been booting Debian 3.1 every day and experimenting
with networking tools.  Today I didn't do much except read man pages,
and I'm not aware of doing anything to change any configuration, but
when I rebooted my computer it stalled out at

INIT: Entering runlevel 2

After it hangs here, it starts printing out messages of the form:

Out of Memory: Killed process 2253 (sysklogd)

If I scroll back on the monitor, there are a number of messages like
this:

modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting pciehp
modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting shpchp
modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting hw_random
modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting rtc

 What is going on here?

Is there any way to boot in this circumstance?

Thanks, as always, for your thoughts.

Best Regards,
Vwaju
New York City


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DEBIAN WON'T BOOT

2004-06-03 Thread J M
Debian won't boot, here's the synopsis of the problem:  Most recently the 
computer began crashing simple programs such as Abiword when attempting to 
save as well as do other moderate tasks.  Up until now, the OS has not given 
me any trouble (had it for roughly 9 mo).  The other night, Debian decided 
not to boot, and started giving me attitude.  The debian load screen comes 
up, and the OS begins loading linux.bin off of the boot disk i use, it then 
quits and says that it failed to load the kernel, and it says I must 
'switch' disk and retry, or eject the disk and press 'restart'.

The only thing that I have done wrong is accidentally ejecting a disk 
without unmounting (did this the day be4 the com wouldn't boot).  Don't know 
what OS i have, believe is is ver 2.88 (it's the version which was most 
recent about 9 mo ago- when i got it).  Any help is appreciated thx!

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Re: DEBIAN WON'T BOOT

2004-06-03 Thread Kent West
J M wrote:
Debian won't boot, here's the synopsis of the problem:  Most recently 
the computer began crashing simple programs such as Abiword when 
attempting to save as well as do other moderate tasks.  Up until now, 
the OS has not given me any trouble (had it for roughly 9 mo).  The 
other night, Debian decided not to boot, and started giving me 
attitude.  The debian load screen comes up, and the OS begins loading 
linux.bin off of the boot disk i use, it then quits and says that it 
failed to load the kernel, and it says I must 'switch' disk and retry, 
or eject the disk and press 'restart'.

The only thing that I have done wrong is accidentally ejecting a disk 
without unmounting (did this the day be4 the com wouldn't boot).  
Don't know what OS i have, believe is is ver 2.88 (it's the version 
which was most recent about 9 mo ago- when i got it).  Any help is 
appreciated thx!

Gut instinct - you have a hardware problem, probably a failing hard drive.
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Re: DEBIAN WON'T BOOT

2004-06-03 Thread Tom Kuiper
 From: J M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: DEBIAN WON'T BOOT
 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 12:25:44 -0800
 
 Debian won't boot, here's the synopsis of the problem:  Most recently the 
 computer began crashing simple programs such as Abiword when attempting to 
 save as well as do other moderate tasks.  Up until now, the OS has not given 
 me any trouble (had it for roughly 9 mo).  The other night, Debian decided 
 not to boot, and started giving me attitude.  The debian load screen comes 
 up, and the OS begins loading linux.bin off of the boot disk i use, it then 
 quits and says that it failed to load the kernel, and it says I must 
 'switch' disk and retry, or eject the disk and press 'restart'.

It sounds to me like your hard disk has failed.  You might try using a
rescue floppy and see if you can mount that disk.  Maybe you can
recover something.

I recommend that you use smartmon to monitor the health of your disks.
See Linux Journal a few months back.
 
 The only thing that I have done wrong is accidentally ejecting a disk 
 without unmounting (did this the day be4 the com wouldn't boot).  Don't know 
 what OS i have, believe is is ver 2.88 (it's the version which was most 
 recent about 9 mo ago- when i got it).  Any help is appreciated thx!
 
I don't think ejecting an unmounted disk is the cause.  I've done that too.

Tom


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Re: DEBIAN WON'T BOOT

2004-06-03 Thread Carl Fink
On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 10:06:44PM +, Tom Kuiper wrote:
  From: J M [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  ... The debian load screen comes up, and the OS begins loading linux.bin
  off of the boot disk i use, it then quits and says that it failed to
  load the kernel, and it says I must 'switch' disk and retry, or eject
  the disk and press 'restart'.

 It sounds to me like your hard disk has failed.  You might try using a
 rescue floppy and see if you can mount that disk.  Maybe you can
 recover something.

Actually, he's booting off a floppy now.  Note the reference to a boot disk.

It's enormously more likely that the floppy has a problem, than a hard
drive, just based on relative MTBF.
 
  The only thing that I have done wrong is accidentally ejecting a disk 
  without unmounting ...

 I don't think ejecting an unmounted disk is the cause.  I've done that too.

But he ejected a *mounted* disk, not unmounted.

JM:  you need a new boot floppy.  The problem CANNOT be your hard disk,
since the system isn't getting past the kernel load.
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ext 3 partitions (was Re: SOLVED :-) Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT )

2003-01-29 Thread Joris Huizer
I did the tune2fs stuff but when I change the ext2 to
ext3 in /etc/fstab I get weird stuff: errors about the
kernel not being able to handle it or something and
the boot stops soon after that; (vi isn't even found,
I have to use sed to change the /etc/fstab back again
(in case it states it's ext2 the boot is successfully.


--- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Joris Huizer wrote:
 
 --- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
 You might be interested in converting your ext2
 file
 systems to ext3, 
 
 
 
 
 Hmmm... I think I might do that allright... but
 before
 I do that: are there any (possible) problems
 involved
 with ext3 or is/was ext2 just more standard ?
   
 
 
 
 I've not had any problemsm, but as always, YMMV.
 ext2 is the older standard.
 
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Re: ext 3 partitions (was Re: SOLVED :-) Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT )

2003-01-29 Thread nate
Joris Huizer said:
 I did the tune2fs stuff but when I change the ext2 to
 ext3 in /etc/fstab I get weird stuff: errors about the
 kernel not being able to handle it or something and
 the boot stops soon after that; (vi isn't even found,
 I have to use sed to change the /etc/fstab back again
 (in case it states it's ext2 the boot is successfully.

what kernel? ext3 is not maintained in 2.2.x anymore, so if
you plan to use ext3 be sure you have a 2.4.x kernel. you
can cat /proc/filesystems to see what filesystems are supported
(this won't include any that are available as modules).

if your using a 2.2.x and want a journalling filesystem the best
bet is reiserfs. I think 2.2.21 is the latest kernel that supports
it, 2.2.19 is the latest kernel I've tested reiserfs on, have done
extensive testing for the past year or more, works wonderfully
with some known issues(e.g. software raid 1,5 not supported).

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Re: ext 3 partitions (was Re: SOLVED :-) Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT )

2003-01-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 11:53:40PM -0800, Joris Huizer wrote:
 I did the tune2fs stuff but when I change the ext2 to
 ext3 in /etc/fstab I get weird stuff: errors about the
 kernel not being able to handle it or something and
 the boot stops soon after that; (vi isn't even found,
 I have to use sed to change the /etc/fstab back again
 (in case it states it's ext2 the boot is successfully.

You need a kernel with support for it compiled in to boot ext3.

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Re: ext 3 partitions (was Re: SOLVED :-) Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT )

2003-01-29 Thread Joris Huizer
Ah ok... then I'll just leave it like this... 


--- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Joris Huizer wrote:
 
 I did the tune2fs stuff but when I change the ext2
 to
 ext3 in /etc/fstab I get weird stuff: errors about
 the
 kernel not being able to handle it or something and
 the boot stops soon after that; (vi isn't even
 found,
 I have to use sed to change the /etc/fstab back
 again
 (in case it states it's ext2 the boot is
 successfully.
 
   
 
 
 Ah, sorry; didn't think about you possibly using a
 2.2x kernel. I 
 believe you'll need a 2.4x kernel to use ext3. If
 you want to stick with 
 2.2, just leave your /etc/fstab set to ext2 and go
 on with life; you 
 don't need to undo your tune2fs -j procedure.
 
 Kent
 
 
 
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error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT URGENT

2003-01-27 Thread Joris Huizer
Hello everybody

I've got a big problem now:

First, I had a weird warning about a change in memory
while nothing should have changed - I did nothing
special to cause such a thing... Anyway, then the
probs go on:

When I try to boot I get an error message when the
check for the root system starts.
These are the outputs:

---

checking root system...
fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002)
/dev/hdb1 contains a filesystem with errors, check
forced.
/dev/hdb1: ...
unattached inode 917614

/dev/hdb1 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY
(i.e., without -a or -p options)

fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot. Please
note that the root file system is currently mounted
read-only. To remount it read-write:

# mount -n -o remount,rw /

---

What should I do ? I don't know anything about inodes
or the fsck program so I need any advice you can give

Thanks in advance,

Joris Huizer


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error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT URGENT

2003-01-27 Thread Joris Huizer
Hello everybody

I've got a big problem now:

First, I had a weird warning about a change in memory
while nothing should have changed - I did nothing
special to cause such a thing... Anyway, then the
probs go on:

When I try to boot I get an error message when the
check for the root system starts.
These are the outputs:

---

checking root system...
fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002)
/dev/hdb1 contains a filesystem with errors, check
forced.
/dev/hdb1: ...
unattached inode 917614

/dev/hdb1 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY
(i.e., without -a or -p options)

fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot. Please
note that the root file system is currently mounted
read-only. To remount it read-write:

# mount -n -o remount,rw /

---

What should I do ? I don't know anything about inodes
or the fsck program so I need any advice you can give

Thanks in advance,

Joris Huizer


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error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT URGENT

2003-01-27 Thread Joris Huizer
Hello everybody

I've got a big problem now:

First, I had a weird warning about a change in memory
while nothing should have changed - I did nothing
special to cause such a thing... Anyway, then the
probs go on:

When I try to boot I get an error message when the
check for the root system starts.
These are the outputs:

---

checking root system...
fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002)
/dev/hdb1 contains a filesystem with errors, check
forced.
/dev/hdb1: ...
unattached inode 917614

/dev/hdb1 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY
(i.e., without -a or -p options)

fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot. Please
note that the root file system is currently mounted
read-only. To remount it read-write:

# mount -n -o remount,rw /

---

What should I do ? I don't know anything about inodes
or the fsck program so I need any advice you can give

Thanks in advance,

Joris Huizer


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Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT URGENT

2003-01-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 05:24:53AM -0800, Joris Huizer wrote:
 /dev/hdb1 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY
 (i.e., without -a or -p options)
 
 fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot. Please
 note that the root file system is currently mounted
 read-only. To remount it read-write:
 
 # mount -n -o remount,rw /
 
 ---
 
 What should I do ? I don't know anything about inodes
 or the fsck program so I need any advice you can give

Just do what it says. 'mount -n -o remount,rw /', then 'fsck /dev/hdb1',
and answer the questions. (Generally speaking there isn't much point
answering anything other than 'y' to fsck's questions, unless you're a
filesystem expert ...)

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Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT URGENT

2003-01-27 Thread Kent West
Joris Huizer wrote:


Hello everybody

I've got a big problem now:

First, I had a weird warning about a change in memory
while nothing should have changed - I did nothing
special to cause such a thing... Anyway, then the
probs go on:

When I try to boot I get an error message when the
check for the root system starts.
These are the outputs:

---

checking root system...
fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002)
/dev/hdb1 contains a filesystem with errors, check
forced.
/dev/hdb1: ...
unattached inode 917614

/dev/hdb1 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY
(i.e., without -a or -p options)

fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot. Please
note that the root file system is currently mounted
read-only. To remount it read-write:

# mount -n -o remount,rw /

---

What should I do ? I don't know anything about inodes
or the fsck program so I need any advice you can give

Thanks in advance,

Joris Huizer
 


Boot into single-user mode if necessary. Run
   mount /-n -o remount,rw /
which will remount the root directory in read-write mode.

Then run
   fsck /dev/hdb1

Most likely, everything will sort itself out. Then just reboot with 
reboot -r now and you should be back in business.

Kent




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SOLVED :-) Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT

2003-01-27 Thread Joris Huizer

--- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Joris Huizer wrote:
 
 Hello everybody
 
 I've got a big problem now:
 
 First, I had a weird warning about a change in
 memory
 while nothing should have changed - I did nothing
 special to cause such a thing... Anyway, then the
 probs go on:
 
 When I try to boot I get an error message when the
 check for the root system starts.
 These are the outputs:
 
 ---
 
 checking root system...
 fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002)
 /dev/hdb1 contains a filesystem with errors, check
 forced.
 /dev/hdb1: ...
 unattached inode 917614
 
 /dev/hdb1 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck
 MANUALLY
 (i.e., without -a or -p options)
 
 fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot.
 Please
 note that the root file system is currently mounted
 read-only. To remount it read-write:
 
 # mount -n -o remount,rw /
 
 ---
 
 What should I do ? I don't know anything about
 inodes
 or the fsck program so I need any advice you can
 give
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Joris Huizer
   
 
 
 Boot into single-user mode if necessary. Run
 mount /-n -o remount,rw /
 which will remount the root directory in read-write
 mode.
 
 Then run
 fsck /dev/hdb1
 
 Most likely, everything will sort itself out. Then
 just reboot with 
 reboot -r now and you should be back in business.
 
 Kent
 
 
 
 

Thank you Kent and Colin Watson (who just sent a reply
too)

I thought it'd probably be hard -  but just saying yes
to every question got everything working again.

Can any of you tell what could have caused this prob ?

regards,

Joris Huizer

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want to fill the list like that, but it kind of looked
like yahoo wasn't really responding well but in the
end it send the message a couple of times.

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Re: SOLVED :-) Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT

2003-01-27 Thread Kent West
Joris Huizer wrote:


First, I had a weird warning about a change in
 

memory


while nothing should have changed - I did nothing
special to cause such a thing... Anyway, then the
probs go on:

When I try to boot I get an error message:

checking root system...
fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002)
/dev/hdb1 contains a filesystem with errors, check
forced.
/dev/hdb1: ...
unattached inode 917614

/dev/hdb1 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck
 

MANUALLY
   

(i.e., without -a or -p options)

fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot.
 

I thought it'd probably be hard -  but just saying yes
to every question got everything working again.

Can any of you tell what could have caused this prob ?


 


Not knowing more details about the change in memory, it's impossible 
to say. There may be some details in one of your system logs (/var/log/ 
. . .). However,  any number of things can cause a file to fail getting 
closed, or corrupted, etc, such as a power outage, or a program lockup, 
a bad spot on the drive, etc.

You might be interested in converting your ext2 file systems to ext3, 
which is a journaling mode, and more resistant to file system 
corruption. It's a simple thing; just run tune2fs -j /dev/hdb1 (for 
the hdb1 partition), and edit /etc/fstab, changing the hdb1 line from 
ext2 to ext3, and you're in business. Do this for all your ext2 
filesystems, or just some, or none; it's your choice.




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Re: SOLVED :-) Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT

2003-01-27 Thread Joris Huizer

--- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Joris Huizer wrote:
 
 First, I had a weird warning about a change in
   
 
 memory
 
 while nothing should have changed - I did nothing
 special to cause such a thing... Anyway, then the
 probs go on:
 
 When I try to boot I get an error message:
 
 checking root system...
 fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002)
 /dev/hdb1 contains a filesystem with errors,
 check
 forced.
 /dev/hdb1: ...
 unattached inode 917614
 
 /dev/hdb1 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck
   
 
 MANUALLY
 
 
 (i.e., without -a or -p options)
 
 fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot.
   
 
 I thought it'd probably be hard -  but just saying
 yes
 to every question got everything working again.
 
 Can any of you tell what could have caused this
 prob ?
 
 
   
 
 
 Not knowing more details about the change in
 memory, it's impossible 
 to say. There may be some details in one of your
 system logs (/var/log/ 
 . . .). However,  any number of things can cause a
 file to fail getting 
 closed, or corrupted, etc, such as a power outage,
 or a program lockup, 
 a bad spot on the drive, etc.
 
 You might be interested in converting your ext2 file
 systems to ext3, 
 which is a journaling mode, and more resistant to
 file system 
 corruption. It's a simple thing; just run tune2fs
 -j /dev/hdb1 (for 
 the hdb1 partition), and edit /etc/fstab, changing
 the hdb1 line from 
 ext2 to ext3, and you're in business. Do this for
 all your ext2 
 filesystems, or just some, or none; it's your
 choice.
 

Hmmm... I think I might do that allright... but before
I do that: are there any (possible) problems involved
with ext3 or is/was ext2 just more standard ?

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Re: SOLVED :-) Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT

2003-01-27 Thread Kent West
Joris Huizer wrote:


--- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

You might be interested in converting your ext2 file
systems to ext3, 

   


Hmmm... I think I might do that allright... but before
I do that: are there any (possible) problems involved
with ext3 or is/was ext2 just more standard ?
 



I've not had any problemsm, but as always, YMMV. ext2 is the older standard.

Kent



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Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT URGENT

2003-01-27 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Hi

I would boot from the cd/floppy in rescue mode (not from the kernel on
the hard-disk) and then run fsck on each ext2/3 partition. hopefully it
will be able to fix all the errors.
This happens from time to time when you use non-journalistic file
system. you should consider using reiserfs/xfs/jfs etc... (I personally
don't like ext3).

Bye

On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 15:31, Joris Huizer wrote:
 Hello everybody
 
 I've got a big problem now:
 
 First, I had a weird warning about a change in memory
 while nothing should have changed - I did nothing
 special to cause such a thing... Anyway, then the
 probs go on:
 
 When I try to boot I get an error message when the
 check for the root system starts.
 These are the outputs:
 
 ---
 
 checking root system...
 fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002)
 /dev/hdb1 contains a filesystem with errors, check
 forced.
 /dev/hdb1: ...
 unattached inode 917614
 
 /dev/hdb1 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY
 (i.e., without -a or -p options)
 
 fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot. Please
 note that the root file system is currently mounted
 read-only. To remount it read-write:
 
 # mount -n -o remount,rw /
 
 ---
 
 What should I do ? I don't know anything about inodes
 or the fsck program so I need any advice you can give
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Joris Huizer
 
 
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