Re: Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

2011-08-14 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 14/08/11 15:09, yudi v wrote:

Hi,

Is Yahoo, Ymail, Rocketmail access (I am talking about the free access,
not paid) still restricted using IMAP.
I was using Zimbra and it works fine.
Just installed a new system and was wondering if Yahoo made IMAP
accessible to all the clients like Evolution and Thunderbird.

Or is my only option Zimbra? I don't mind using it but would like to�
use evolution if possible. It integrates will with the desktop

--
Kind regards,
Yudi

Wouldn't Yahoo, Ymail and Rocketmail be the best place to find an answer 
to that question?


For Yahoo the answer is yes, and no. Yahoo provide IMAP access but try 
and restrict it to mobile devices that won't run their Zimbra client. 
You'll have to make your MUA spoof a mobile device id - and you'll be on 
a treadmill...


imap.mail.yahoo.com; SSL – port 993

For the others you're going have to do the work yourself, or get someone 
else to do if for you. (sigh)


Cheers

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Re: Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

2011-08-14 Thread yudi v
 For Yahoo the answer is yes, and no. Yahoo provide IMAP access but try and
 restrict it to mobile devices that won't run their Zimbra client. You'll
 have to make your MUA spoof a mobile device id - and you'll be on a
 treadmill...

 imap.mail.yahoo.com; SSL – port 993

 My question was specifically relating to Desktop client. I know that Yahoo
allows IMAP access to mobile devices.

I would like to move away from Zimbra (it's not Yahoo owned anymore), and
was curious if any other desktop clients could access Yahoo mail.

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Kind regards,
Yudi


Re: Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

2011-08-14 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 14/08/11 17:05, yudi v wrote:


For Yahoo the answer is yes, and no. Yahoo provide IMAP access but
try and restrict it to mobile devices that won't run their Zimbra
client. You'll have to make your MUA spoof a mobile device id - and
you'll be on a treadmill...

imap.mail.yahoo.com http://imap.mail.yahoo.com; SSL � port 993

My question was specifically relating to Desktop client.


I read the post I replied to - that's what I meant by MUA.


I know that
Yahoo allows IMAP access to mobile devices.


Then have you at least tried setting your MUA to IMAP??



I would like to move away from Zimbra (it's not Yahoo owned anymore),


The commercial version is owned by VMware, the open-source client is not 
owned.



and was curious if any other desktop clients could access Yahoo mail.

--
Kind regards,
Yudi



Yahoo will continue to make that difficult. The make their return on the 
free email services by taking you to their web portal, and by 
charging you extra for an email service that works - so don't expect to 
continue to get access.


Any application that can deal with IMAP, can deal with IMAP - the main 
restriction will be IMAP servers (like Yahoo's) that try and restrict 
which platform clients they'll talk to.


See also:- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=493064
and http://www.crasseux.com/linux/

If that's no longer the case, which is likely given yahoo's history of 
providing a similar level of free email service as Hotmail, you'll have 
to change your MUA ID to (GUID 1). And given Yahoo's history of 
corrupting standards - who knows what they'll do next week. This is the 
company who's idea of a sound business model is to charge 1c per email 
to bypass their spam filters...


You could also try the Zindus plugin for Iceweasel or another IMAP 
proxy. Or just forward email to one of the better free email providers 
(gmail, mxmail etc).


Good luck

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Re: Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

2011-08-14 Thread John L. Cunningham
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 05:05:46PM +1000, yudi v wrote:
 
 I would like to move away from Zimbra (it's not Yahoo owned anymore), and was
 curious if any other desktop clients could access Yahoo mail.

It works well enough with Mutt. Yahoo does tend to disconnect the IMAP session 
if I dawdle. It's probably something I could fix by changing the keepalive 
setting, but I haven't found it worth looking into.
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Re: Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

2011-08-14 Thread yudi v
I guess the status quo has not changed over the last 4 years.
There are lot of hacks for different clients but was hoping yahoo would make
the IMAP access freely available.

Scott's suggestion to make MUA spoof a mobile device id or to use Mutt dont
look like much of an improvement over Zimbra. It's as good a client as any
but does not integrate well with the desktop.
I guess I will stick with zimbra.

Thank you.

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Yudi


Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

2011-08-13 Thread yudi v
Hi,

Is Yahoo, Ymail, Rocketmail access (I am talking about the free access, not
paid) still restricted using IMAP.
I was using Zimbra and it works fine.
Just installed a new system and was wondering if Yahoo made IMAP accessible
to all the clients like Evolution and Thunderbird.

Or is my only option Zimbra? I don't mind using it but would like to  use
evolution if possible. It integrates will with the desktop

-- 
Kind regards,
Yudi