Re: Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-05 Thread Ioannis Tambouras


 The more(1) pager produces correct results when 8-bit characters are
 send to the screen. The less(1) pager fails to do so with its
 default configuration: I used setenv LESSCHARSET latin1  to get
 around this problem.


Ioannis Tambouras 
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Re: Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-03 Thread John Foster
  In a lot of man pages, and some of the documentation in /usr/doc there are
  there little squares or cryptic $%^ thingees. I guess that there's
  something I've missed somewhere...
  
  What have/haven't I done?
 
 On the assumption that you ran into some highlighting or underlining
 markup, then you might try running your documents through a smart 
 pager that's able to do something reasonable with such things.
 Try this:
 export MANPAGER=/usr/bin/less
 
 (Of course, this only works if you have the 'less' package installed.)
 
 If it works for you, then you might want to put this line into your 
 .bashrc or whatever startup script you use.
 
 If the problem is that the documents you're looking at are gzip'd then
 you'll want to read them with zless, by executing, e.g., 
 zless /usr/doc/man/README.gz

I don't think that's the problem, less is my PAGER, and I know about zcat.
Most of the text is quite readable. The little squares are often where I'd
expect an apostrophe to be, and some of the funny codes are B7 for
example. It looks like a bit of hex.

John F.



Re: Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-03 Thread Raja R Harinath
John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 In a lot of man pages, and some of the documentation in /usr/doc
 there are there little squares or cryptic $%^ thingees. I guess
 that there's something I've missed somewhere...

 What have/haven't I done?
 
 On the assumption that you ran into some highlighting or underlining
 markup, then you might try running your documents through a smart 
 pager that's able to do something reasonable with such things.
 Try this:
 export MANPAGER=/usr/bin/less
[snip]
 
 I don't think that's the problem, less is my PAGER, and I know about zcat.
 Most of the text is quite readable. The little squares are often where I'd
 expect an apostrophe to be, and some of the funny codes are B7 for
 example. It looks like a bit of hex.

You're reading an ISO-8859-1 (8-bit) document with `less' in it's 7-bit
mode.

You can do one of two things -- 

1. $ export LC_CTYPE=iso_8859_1
   $ less filename

2. $ less -r filename

The first is the preferred solution, but requires you to have set up all
the locale data correctly.  

The second just punts the 8-bit char to your display.

In either case, your display has to support 8-bit characters, and show
them meaningfully.  `xterm' can handle it.  I haven't checked the
console (I'm sitting on a Solaris box right now)

- Hari

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Re: Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-03 Thread Ioannis Tambouras

  It might have to do with striping the 8th bit of a byte before it
gets displayed on the terminal. For man, try the -7 option . 
That might not help you at all, but since the other responses
from the list has not fix your problem yet, that is what I would 
investigate until a better suggestion arrives. Also, you may want to try
different fonts, who knows. Or, try different options to 
/usr/bin/setterm, it might be. 

 And if you find out, please, post the solution.
 



Ioannis Tambouras 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], West Palm Beach, Florida
Signed pgp-key on key server. 

On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, John Foster wrote:

 In a lot of man pages, and some of the documentation in /usr/doc there are
 there little squares or cryptic $%^ thingees. I guess that there's
 something I've missed somewhere...
 
 What have/haven't I done?
 
 John.
 
 
 


Re: Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-03 Thread Paul Serice

 I don't think that's the problem, less is my PAGER, and I know about zcat.
 Most of the text is quite readable. The little squares are often where I'd
 expect an apostrophe to be, and some of the funny codes are B7 for
 example. It looks like a bit of hex.

Try adding   export LESSCHARSET='latin1'to your profile.

Paul Serice



Re: Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-03 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, John Foster wrote:

 I don't think that's the problem, less is my PAGER, and I know about zcat.
 Most of the text is quite readable. The little squares are often where I'd
 expect an apostrophe to be, and some of the funny codes are B7 for
 example. It looks like a bit of hex.

I think this is related to your font tables. If it's in text mode
then you might have changed fonts using one of the font tables in
/usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts which lacks a few chars.

I saw the same thing on a 486 I setup last week, but neigther my 486 or
6x86 do this. The only thing I can think of is that the 486 had it's font
set using setfont while the other two had the font set from the bios with
vga=extended in lilo.

Jason


Re: Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-03 Thread Carey Evans
Raja R Harinath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snip]

 You're reading an ISO-8859-1 (8-bit) document with `less' in it's 7-bit
 mode.

[snip]

 In either case, your display has to support 8-bit characters, and show
 them meaningfully.  `xterm' can handle it.  I haven't checked the
 console (I'm sitting on a Solaris box right now)

In my experience it doesn't always do a wonderful job, since it
doesn't have all the characters needed (which might be the original
problem, actually).  This can be fixed by doing something like:

$ setfont -u lat1.uni lat1-16.psf

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Fixed == Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-03 Thread John Foster
To refresh, there were strange little squares and odd bits of hex
scattered through the manpages. This reply fixed it:


  I don't think that's the problem, less is my PAGER, and I know about zcat.
  Most of the text is quite readable. The little squares are often where I'd
  expect an apostrophe to be, and some of the funny codes are B7 for
  example. It looks like a bit of hex.
 
 Try adding   export LESSCHARSET='latin1'to your profile.
 
 Paul Serice

Thanx to all who replied!

John Foster


Re: Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-03 Thread Ronald van Loon
| export MANPAGER=/usr/bin/less
| 
| (Of course, this only works if you have the 'less' package installed.)
| 
| If it works for you, then you might want to put this line into your 
| .bashrc or whatever startup script you use.
| 
| If the problem is that the documents you're looking at are gzip'd then
| you'll want to read them with zless, by executing, e.g., 
| zless /usr/doc/man/README.gz
|
|I don't think that's the problem, less is my PAGER, and I know about zcat.
|Most of the text is quite readable. The little squares are often where I'd
|expect an apostrophe to be, and some of the funny codes are B7 for
|example. It looks like a bit of hex.

You probably have not set your 'LESSCHARSET' environment variable;

try either:

export LESSCHARSET=latin1

or:

setenv LESSCHARSET latin1
-- 
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I am waiting as fast as I can! I want patience, and I want it *NOW*!
 - Bethany J. Parkhurst


Re: Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-03 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 A few manpages are formatted in a style that less doesn't completely
clean up.  Most seems to handle these a little better.  Most detects and
unzips gzip'd documents automatically.

Bob

At 05:50 PM 3/2/97 -0500, Susan G. Kleinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a lot of man pages, and some of the documentation in /usr/doc there are
 there little squares or cryptic $%^ thingees. I guess that there's
 something I've missed somewhere...
 
 What have/haven't I done?

On the assumption that you ran into some highlighting or underlining
markup, then you might try running your documents through a smart 
pager that's able to do something reasonable with such things.
Try this:
export MANPAGER=/usr/bin/less

(Of course, this only works if you have the 'less' package installed.)

If it works for you, then you might want to put this line into your 
.bashrc or whatever startup script you use.

If the problem is that the documents you're looking at are gzip'd then
you'll want to read them with zless, by executing, e.g., 
zless /usr/doc/man/README.gz

Hope that helps.
Susan Kleinmann



Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-02 Thread John Foster
In a lot of man pages, and some of the documentation in /usr/doc there are
there little squares or cryptic $%^ thingees. I guess that there's
something I've missed somewhere...

What have/haven't I done?

John.



Re: Documentation - I see squares

1997-03-02 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
 In a lot of man pages, and some of the documentation in /usr/doc there are
 there little squares or cryptic $%^ thingees. I guess that there's
 something I've missed somewhere...
 
 What have/haven't I done?

On the assumption that you ran into some highlighting or underlining
markup, then you might try running your documents through a smart 
pager that's able to do something reasonable with such things.
Try this:
export MANPAGER=/usr/bin/less

(Of course, this only works if you have the 'less' package installed.)

If it works for you, then you might want to put this line into your 
.bashrc or whatever startup script you use.

If the problem is that the documents you're looking at are gzip'd then
you'll want to read them with zless, by executing, e.g., 
zless /usr/doc/man/README.gz

Hope that helps.
Susan Kleinmann