Re: Does Windows regenerate MBR by itself?

2000-06-10 Thread Pat Mahoney
On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 06:47:48PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 04:33:03PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:
  
  I'm going over tomorrow to reinstall LILO for him.
 
 you should dd his kernel to a floppy, then use rdev to set the root
 device to is real root partition.  then next time this happens he can
 just stick the floppy in and run /sbin/lilo just like normal, and
 everything will be everything again.
 
  How can I prevent something like this happening again?

Something in the bios can be set to prevent things (viruses) from
writing to the mbr.  Reinstall LILO and then turn this on in the
bios.  Of course, it's a pain because you must rerun lilo for each
kernel upgrade.  You could install grub which doesn't need to be
reinstalled for each kernel...  I don't think doze can override the
bios feature (what protection would it be otherwise).

 
 delete windows ;-)

I second that.

 
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 Ethan Benson
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Does Windows regenerate MBR by itself?

2000-06-06 Thread Arcady Genkin
A friend of mine is experiencing a weird situation with multy-booting.
I installed Linux for him on a second harddrive all by itself, and
installed Lilo into MBR on /dev/hda to mutli-boot Linux and Windows
(Windows off /dev/hda1, and Linux off /dev/hdc1).

This worked fine for about a month until today, when he called me and
told that he no longer sees LILO's boot prompt, but the computer boots
straight into Windows every time now (all of a sudden).

A very similar thing happened on the same computer, when he had NT and
Win98 installed (in the same partition).  NT's mutlibooter worked fine
untill some point, and then it just vanished, and the computer started
booting straight into Win98.

My friend claims he did nothing at all that could cause this.

Could it be that Windows repairs the MBR by removing a foreign
multy-booter and overwriting it with the native one to only boot
Windows?  If so, what could have caused this behavior.  I've never
heard of anything like this.  Granted, I haven't used Windows much,
and know very little about it.

I'm going over tomorrow to reinstall LILO for him.
How can I prevent something like this happening again?

Thanks for any ideas!
-- 
Arcady Genkin
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.



Re: Does Windows regenerate MBR by itself?

2000-06-06 Thread Andrew George
 A very similar thing happened on the same computer, when he had NT and
 Win98 installed (in the same partition).  NT's mutlibooter worked fine
 untill some point, and then it just vanished, and the computer started
 booting straight into Win98.
 
 My friend claims he did nothing at all that could cause this.
 
 Could it be that Windows repairs the MBR by removing a foreign
 multy-booter and overwriting it with the native one to only boot
 Windows?  If so, what could have caused this behavior.  I've never
 heard of anything like this.  Granted, I haven't used Windows much,
 and know very little about it.
 
Is he running a virus checker under windows?
I've noticed some of them run, notice the MBR has changed when they do their
full scheduled scan, and then change it back to the image of teh MBR they had
when the Virus checker was installed
(These days most ask...but he may have the option turned off or something)



Re: Does Windows regenerate MBR by itself?

2000-06-06 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 04:33:03PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:
 
 I'm going over tomorrow to reinstall LILO for him.

you should dd his kernel to a floppy, then use rdev to set the root
device to is real root partition.  then next time this happens he can
just stick the floppy in and run /sbin/lilo just like normal, and
everything will be everything again.

 How can I prevent something like this happening again?

delete windows ;-)

-- 
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/


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