Re: FAT filesystem with a directory cycle
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 02:23:40PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/03/2011 05:55 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 06:31:49AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > [snip] > >> > >>I thought fsck was a bit based integrity checker and didn't care about > >>directories?... and how do you know what directory fsck is on anyway? > > > >The same warning repeated endlessly > > > > Show us. Include *everything*. (Snip after 5 lines of repetition.) Hi again, After a break I went back to try to repair the virus-infested 30GB partition: fsck.msdos -a xp_sda1.img After several hours of error repairing, mostly in the WinSxS directory, fsck.msdos gets stuck in a loop, repeating the following lines endlessly while incrementing the count. Regards, /WINDOWS/WinSxS/x86_Microsoft.MSXML2_6bd6b9abf345378f_4.20.9818.0_x-ww_8ff50c5d/�i�F\014$\023�.i��/ghtColor.\001\000\011/FSCK.014/��,��\024�2.4�b/.\001\000\000 Duplicate directory entry. FirstSize 0 bytes, date 22:04:02 Dec 31 1979 Second Size 0 bytes, date 22:04:02 Dec 31 1979 Auto-renaming second. Renamed to FSCK0005.286 /WINDOWS/WinSxS/x86_Microsoft.MSXML2_6bd6b9abf345378f_4.20.9818.0_x-ww_8ff50c5d/�i�F\014$\023�.i��/ghtColor.\001\000\011/FSCK.014/��,��\024�2.4�b/.\001\000\000 Duplicate directory entry. FirstSize 0 bytes, date 22:04:02 Dec 31 1979 Second Size 0 bytes, date 22:04:02 Dec 31 1979 Auto-renaming second. Renamed to FSCK0005.287 /WINDOWS/WinSxS/x86_Microsoft.MSXML2_6bd6b9abf345378f_4.20.9818.0_x-ww_8ff50c5d/�i�F\014$\023�.i��/ghtColor.\001\000\011/FSCK.014/��,��\024�2.4�b/.\001\000\000 Duplicate directory entry. FirstSize 0 bytes, date 22:04:02 Dec 31 1979 Second Size 0 bytes, date 22:04:02 Dec 31 1979 Auto-renaming second. Renamed to FSCK0005.288 /WINDOWS/WinSxS/x86_Microsoft.MSXML2_6bd6b9abf345378f_4.20.9818.0_x-ww_8ff50c5d/�i�F\014$\023�.i��/ghtColor.\001\000\011/FSCK.014/��,��\024�2.4�b/���?.\001\000\000 Duplicate directory entry. FirstSize 0 bytes, date 22:04:02 Dec 31 1979 Second Size 0 bytes, date 22:04:02 Dec 31 1979 Auto-renaming second. Renamed to FSCK0005.289 /WINDOWS/WinSxS/x86_Microsoft.MSXML2_6bd6b9abf345378f_4.20.9818.0_x-ww_8ff50c5d/�i�F\014$\023�.i��/ghtColor.\001\000\011/FSCK.014/��,��\024�2.4�b/.\001\000\000 Duplicate directory entry. FirstSize 0 bytes, date 22:04:02 Dec 31 1979 Second Size 0 bytes, date 22:04:02 Dec 31 1979 Auto-renaming second. Renamed to FSCK0005.290 -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110325102912.GA19023@sprite
Re: FAT filesystem with a directory cycle
On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 11:38:36PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/05/2011 11:27 PM, Joel Roth wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 02:23:40PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] > >> > >>Show us. Include *everything*. (Snip after 5 lines of repetition.) > > > >Okay, I get that a responsibility of posting for help here > >is also to include enough info for all to study. > > > > You call the Doctor saying nothing but "I have a cough. Cure me > now!" and expect him to do what? Hi Doctor Johnson, At least half of the time, the *attempt* to explain to the doctor cures the problem. Several times I've spent more than an hour writing to the list, and then resolving the problem through the exercise of writing. (I don't usually trouble the list unless I'm feeling especially boastful.) In this case, I ran out of time and returned the hardware. I don't appear to get the same errors on the dd'd and mounted partition copy that I recall on the original hardware. There could have been some error on my part. Some errors remain mysterious. Thank you for explaining list etiquette. Let it be known that I contribute to this list as well as asking for help. I attempt to remain courteous, including providing sufficient information. Good day to you, Dr. btw, we are all doctors and all patients here! Have a tofu flavored banana bar and chill :-) > >Thanks for your kind offer, however I no longer have the computer > >to play with. I'll experiment with virtualization next, > >if I can get that to work. > > > > -- > I prefer banana-flavored energy bars made from tofu. -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110306091018.GB8958@sprite
Re: FAT filesystem with a directory cycle
On 03/05/2011 11:27 PM, Joel Roth wrote: On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 02:23:40PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Show us. Include *everything*. (Snip after 5 lines of repetition.) Okay, I get that a responsibility of posting for help here is also to include enough info for all to study. You call the Doctor saying nothing but "I have a cough. Cure me now!" and expect him to do what? Thanks for your kind offer, however I no longer have the computer to play with. I'll experiment with virtualization next, if I can get that to work. -- I prefer banana-flavored energy bars made from tofu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d731ddc.1010...@cox.net
Re: FAT filesystem with a directory cycle
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 02:23:40PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/03/2011 05:55 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 06:31:49AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > [snip] > >> > >>I thought fsck was a bit based integrity checker and didn't care about > >>directories?... and how do you know what directory fsck is on anyway? > > > >The same warning repeated endlessly > > > > Show us. Include *everything*. (Snip after 5 lines of repetition.) Okay, I get that a responsibility of posting for help here is also to include enough info for all to study. Thanks for your kind offer, however I no longer have the computer to play with. I'll experiment with virtualization next, if I can get that to work. -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110306052712.GA28325@sprite
Re: FAT filesystem with a directory cycle
On 03/03/2011 05:55 AM, Joel Roth wrote: On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 06:31:49AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: [snip] I thought fsck was a bit based integrity checker and didn't care about directories?... and how do you know what directory fsck is on anyway? The same warning repeated endlessly Show us. Include *everything*. (Snip after 5 lines of repetition.) -- I prefer banana-flavored energy bars made from tofu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6ff8cc.4060...@cox.net
Re: FAT filesystem with a directory cycle
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 06:31:49AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > On Mar 3, 2011 6:14 AM, "Joel Roth" wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 09:51:14AM +0100, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > > > On 03/03/2011 06:20 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > > > > > >I'm repairing a system for a friend with a FAT filesystem > > > >problem. > > > > > > > >There is a directory cycle, so that for example: > > > > > > > >rm -rf directory_with_cycle > > > > > > > >doesn't work, because rm encounters and endless succession > > > >of subdirectories. > > > > > > > >The directory content is not important, however I'd be > > > >interested in knowing some FAT references that could help > > > >me to eliminate the loop and remove the directory. > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > I would run the fsck.vfat ( dosfstools package) on the unmounted > partition. > > > > I tried that; fsck.vfat gets stuck in a loop as it descends > > into a subdirectory that contains its own ancestor. > > > > I thought fsck was a bit based integrity checker and didn't care about > directories?... and how do you know what directory fsck is on anyway? The same warning repeated endlessly > Either way, rsync the disk (I think there's a follow symlink option). Copy > the first 454 bites of the disk. Reformat the disk, copy the data back, dd > the mbr back. Rsync *does* allow one to exclude directories from the copy. So that would work. However Windows system partitions always have special wrinkles... A fresh install might help. I think I'm about done with this job. I've got Windows booting, and I've got Puppy linux running as an alternative. Thanks for your suggestions :) -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110303115519.GA27952@sprite
Re: FAT filesystem with a directory cycle
On Mar 3, 2011 6:14 AM, "Joel Roth" wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 09:51:14AM +0100, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > > On 03/03/2011 06:20 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > > >I'm repairing a system for a friend with a FAT filesystem > > >problem. > > > > > >There is a directory cycle, so that for example: > > > > > >rm -rf directory_with_cycle > > > > > >doesn't work, because rm encounters and endless succession > > >of subdirectories. > > > > > >The directory content is not important, however I'd be > > >interested in knowing some FAT references that could help > > >me to eliminate the loop and remove the directory. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > I would run the fsck.vfat ( dosfstools package) on the unmounted partition. > > I tried that; fsck.vfat gets stuck in a loop as it descends > into a subdirectory that contains its own ancestor. > I thought fsck was a bit based integrity checker and didn't care about directories?... and how do you know what directory fsck is on anyway? Either way, rsync the disk (I think there's a follow symlink option). Copy the first 454 bites of the disk. Reformat the disk, copy the data back, dd the mbr back.
Re: FAT filesystem with a directory cycle
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 09:51:14AM +0100, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > On 03/03/2011 06:20 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm repairing a system for a friend with a FAT filesystem > >problem. > > > >There is a directory cycle, so that for example: > > > >rm -rf directory_with_cycle > > > >doesn't work, because rm encounters and endless succession > >of subdirectories. > > > >The directory content is not important, however I'd be > >interested in knowing some FAT references that could help > >me to eliminate the loop and remove the directory. > > > >Regards, > > > I would run the fsck.vfat ( dosfstools package) on the unmounted partition. I tried that; fsck.vfat gets stuck in a loop as it descends into a subdirectory that contains its own ancestor. Thanks anyway! > Regards , > Alex -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110303111302.GA27026@sprite
Re: FAT filesystem with a directory cycle
On 03/03/2011 06:20 AM, Joel Roth wrote: Hi, I'm repairing a system for a friend with a FAT filesystem problem. There is a directory cycle, so that for example: rm -rf directory_with_cycle doesn't work, because rm encounters and endless succession of subdirectories. The directory content is not important, however I'd be interested in knowing some FAT references that could help me to eliminate the loop and remove the directory. Regards, I would run the fsck.vfat ( dosfstools package) on the unmounted partition. Regards , Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6f5682.70...@biotec.tu-dresden.de
Re: FAT filesystem with a directory cycle
On 03/02/2011 11:20 PM, Joel Roth wrote: Hi, I'm repairing a system for a friend with a FAT filesystem problem. There is a directory cycle, so that for example: rm -rf directory_with_cycle doesn't work, because rm encounters and endless succession of subdirectories. The directory content is not important, however I'd be interested in knowing some FAT references that could help me to eliminate the loop and remove the directory. A symlink loop? But FAT doesn't support symlinks. -- I prefer banana-flavored energy bars made from tofu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6f4765.8080...@cox.net
FAT filesystem with a directory cycle
Hi, I'm repairing a system for a friend with a FAT filesystem problem. There is a directory cycle, so that for example: rm -rf directory_with_cycle doesn't work, because rm encounters and endless succession of subdirectories. The directory content is not important, however I'd be interested in knowing some FAT references that could help me to eliminate the loop and remove the directory. Regards, -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110303052002.GA13839@sprite
