Re: FOLLOWUP Re: LXDE panel disappeared

[Patrick Bartek]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 21:51:12 +0900 A_Man_Without_Clue
 wrote:

> 
> 
> On 10/21/2017 10:46 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:28:00 -0700 Patrick Bartek
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:31:14 +0900 A_Man_Without_Clue
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 10/16/2017 12:03 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> 
> 
>   [big snip]
> 
>  Thank you for your input.
>  No, it wasn't minimizing feature of the panel. The panel was
>  completely gone.
>  Alt + F1 brings the menu on the LXDE but I did not try that.
> 
>  What I have found out is that if I add the panel in addition to
>  default one, the default panel disappears after reboot. Some
>  icons on the newly added panel also disappears. AND I can not
>  delete the newly added panel.
> 
>  What I had to do is that I had to re-create my account, this time
>  not to mess with desktop panel.
>  This never happened on Jessie, Wheezy and Squeeze.
> 
>  Very frustrating because I like to use additional panel on desk
>  top.
> 
> >>>
> >>> I just tried other newly installed Stretch. Same problem. I guess
> >>> this is Debian Stretch specific problem.
> >>
> >> Have you checked LXDE's site for this problem or posted a query
> >> about it to their mailing list, etc?
> >>
> >> I've been testing Stretch 64-bit in VirtualBox, but only with
> >> Openbox, LXDE's default window manager, that is, no desktop
> >> environment installed, and I don't experience this problem.
> >>
> >> Check in your user home directory
> >> for .config/lxpanel/default/panels and see what's listed.
> >>
> >> FYI:  I'm using sysvinit as init for this test install, but have
> >> not removed any systemd stuff.  Could make a difference.  Who
> >> knows?
> >>
> >> B
> > 
> > After adding an lxpanel in addition to the default one I already
> > had, configured it, added applets, etc, rebooted, all worked fine.
> > However, when I deleted the added panel, it along with the default
> > one vanished. But when I "exited" Openbox to a terminal and ran
> > startx, Openbox along with the default panel came back.  However,
> > since I only run Openbox and not a desktop, to have lxpanel start
> > when Openbox does, I must run 'lxpanel &' it in a file 'autostart'
> > in .conf/openbox/ in my home directory.  Maybe, you doing the same
> > thing might be a fix for your problem.
> > 
> > B
> > 
> 
> 
> OK, I did experiment something.
> 
> What I did was I copied /.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels from working
> Jessie machine to Stretch.
> 
> AND the result was success!

Great!  

> The one in Wheezy has panel and left files under "panels" but on
> Stretch, there is only "panel" file.

On my tests with Stretch/Openbox, I got separate config files for each
panel.

> 
> For some reason LXDE fails to create these panel files correctly and
> messes up. I don't know the mechanism of this process but something is
> not working right.

I'd contact the LXDE people and let them know.

B

Re: FOLLOWUP Re: LXDE panel disappeared

[A_Man_Without_Clue]

On 10/21/2017 10:46 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:28:00 -0700 Patrick Bartek 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:31:14 +0900 A_Man_Without_Clue
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/16/2017 12:03 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:


  [big snip]

 Thank you for your input.
 No, it wasn't minimizing feature of the panel. The panel was
 completely gone.
 Alt + F1 brings the menu on the LXDE but I did not try that.

 What I have found out is that if I add the panel in addition to
 default one, the default panel disappears after reboot. Some icons
 on the newly added panel also disappears. AND I can not delete the
 newly added panel.

 What I had to do is that I had to re-create my account, this time
 not to mess with desktop panel.
 This never happened on Jessie, Wheezy and Squeeze.

 Very frustrating because I like to use additional panel on desk
 top.

>>>
>>> I just tried other newly installed Stretch. Same problem. I guess
>>> this is Debian Stretch specific problem.
>>
>> Have you checked LXDE's site for this problem or posted a query about
>> it to their mailing list, etc?
>>
>> I've been testing Stretch 64-bit in VirtualBox, but only with Openbox,
>> LXDE's default window manager, that is, no desktop environment
>> installed, and I don't experience this problem.
>>
>> Check in your user home directory for .config/lxpanel/default/panels
>> and see what's listed.
>>
>> FYI:  I'm using sysvinit as init for this test install, but have not
>> removed any systemd stuff.  Could make a difference.  Who knows?
>>
>> B
> 
> After adding an lxpanel in addition to the default one I already had,
> configured it, added applets, etc, rebooted, all worked fine.
> However, when I deleted the added panel, it along with the default one
> vanished. But when I "exited" Openbox to a terminal and ran
> startx, Openbox along with the default panel came back.  However, since
> I only run Openbox and not a desktop, to have lxpanel start when
> Openbox does, I must run 'lxpanel &' it in a file 'autostart'
> in .conf/openbox/ in my home directory.  Maybe, you doing the same
> thing might be a fix for your problem.
> 
> B
> 


OK, I did experiment something.

What I did was I copied /.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels from working Jessie
machine to Stretch.

AND the result was success!

The one in Wheezy has panel and left files under "panels" but on
Stretch, there is only "panel" file.


For some reason LXDE fails to create these panel files correctly and
messes up. I don't know the mechanism of this process but something is
not working right.

FOLLOWUP Re: LXDE panel disappeared

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:28:00 -0700 Patrick Bartek 
wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:31:14 +0900 A_Man_Without_Clue
>  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/16/2017 12:03 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  [big snip]
> > > 
> > > Thank you for your input.
> > > No, it wasn't minimizing feature of the panel. The panel was
> > > completely gone.
> > > Alt + F1 brings the menu on the LXDE but I did not try that.
> > > 
> > > What I have found out is that if I add the panel in addition to
> > > default one, the default panel disappears after reboot. Some icons
> > > on the newly added panel also disappears. AND I can not delete the
> > > newly added panel.
> > > 
> > > What I had to do is that I had to re-create my account, this time
> > > not to mess with desktop panel.
> > > This never happened on Jessie, Wheezy and Squeeze.
> > > 
> > > Very frustrating because I like to use additional panel on desk
> > > top.
> > > 
> > 
> > I just tried other newly installed Stretch. Same problem. I guess
> > this is Debian Stretch specific problem.
> 
> Have you checked LXDE's site for this problem or posted a query about
> it to their mailing list, etc?
> 
> I've been testing Stretch 64-bit in VirtualBox, but only with Openbox,
> LXDE's default window manager, that is, no desktop environment
> installed, and I don't experience this problem.
> 
> Check in your user home directory for .config/lxpanel/default/panels
> and see what's listed.
> 
> FYI:  I'm using sysvinit as init for this test install, but have not
> removed any systemd stuff.  Could make a difference.  Who knows?
> 
> B

After adding an lxpanel in addition to the default one I already had,
configured it, added applets, etc, rebooted, all worked fine.
However, when I deleted the added panel, it along with the default one
vanished. But when I "exited" Openbox to a terminal and ran
startx, Openbox along with the default panel came back.  However, since
I only run Openbox and not a desktop, to have lxpanel start when
Openbox does, I must run 'lxpanel &' it in a file 'autostart'
in .conf/openbox/ in my home directory.  Maybe, you doing the same
thing might be a fix for your problem.

B