Re: FW: Kernel identification
Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hey, I do not know who invented L and R. That is really problem in > modern world. They sound same to me :) Problem is that English is a > lingua-franca of computer world and I do not speak/spell well. > ("frustrated") Your english is excellent, I've seen far funnier mistakes from native speakers. > Really, these 2 d--- characters cause poor non-native speaker of English > to torture themselves. Pick any Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc., and > ask them to say "I love you". It will sound "I rub you." Well these > days, oriental massage (Beep: R-rated) is popular in US, it may be the > same thing after all... I lived in France for several years and was forever making embarassing verbal gaffes, often the pronunciation rather than the spelling is all it takes. For example in french the word "pin" can mean either pine or penis depending on how you pronounce it. Given that I'm a carpenter and the nature of construction site humour, you can imagine the hilarity that caused until someone set me straight. And the girlfriend found out the hard way (no pun intended) that french plumbers don't "faire pipes" they "faire tuyaux". Apparently "faire une pipe" means give a blowjob in french Anyhow, I guess we should get back to a more technical discussion not that it's a particulary fashionable thing to do these day's on this list. -- Simon Hepburn. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Kernel identification
Hi Simon from UK, On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 03:07:05AM +0100, Simon Hepburn wrote: > Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > To avoid this kind of flustration, dselect is better tool. With that we > > can see and confirm package names. This is true for kernel-image since > > it evolve really fast with strange combination of name mutation. > > > > Just my thought. (I like apt-get though) > > flustration ? I've been flustered and frustrated but never > flustrated.sounds painful ;-) LOL ;) Hey, I do not know who invented L and R. That is really problem in modern world. They sound same to me :) Problem is that English is a lingua-franca of computer world and I do not speak/spell well. ("frustrated") Really, these 2 d--- characters cause poor non-native speaker of English to torture themselves. Pick any Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc., and ask them to say "I love you". It will sound "I rub you." Well these days, oriental massage (Beep: R-rated) is popular in US, it may be the same thing after all... So much for bad taste joke. Osamu PS: No offense to the Asian people. I am one of them. -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D . See "Debian reference": http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/quick-reference/ Project at: http://qref.sf.net . I welcome your constructive criticisms and corrections. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Kernel identification
Osamu Aoki wrote: > To avoid this kind of flustration, dselect is better tool. With that we > can see and confirm package names. This is true for kernel-image since > it evolve really fast with strange combination of name mutation. > > Just my thought. (I like apt-get though) flustration ? I've been flustered and frustrated but never flustrated.sounds painful ;-) I like dselect too, apt-get leaves you oblivious to recommends and suggests, which can and do change over the lifetime of a package, particulary if a large package is split into smaller ones. -- Simon Hepburn. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Kernel identification
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:11:11PM -0700, curtis wrote: > Let's go back to my original problem. I see question was answered. Good. :) To avoid this kind of flustration, dselect is better tool. With that we can see and confirm package names. This is true for kernel-image since it evolve really fast with strange combination of name mutation. Just my thought. (I like apt-get though) -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D . See "Debian reference": http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/quick-reference/ Project at: http://qref.sf.net . I welcome your constructive criticisms and corrections. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Kernel identification
curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > apt-get install kernel-imgage- > In this case, when I type apt-get install kernal-image-2.4.17-386 (the > kernel version on my other computers), I get the following message: >Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no available version, but exists >in the database. >This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and >never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents >of sources.list >E: Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no installation candidate 2.4.17 has been removed due to the zlib security hole. Just install 2.4.18 instead. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Kernel identification
It seems that it must have been removed from the archive between your installs. 2.4.17 does not exist on the archives now, only 2.4.17-b42.4. I may be wrong but it seems to me it hasn't been there for several weeks. I would suggest installing 2.4.18. On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 19:11, curtis wrote: > Let's go back to my original problem. > > Here's my letter: > > I upgraded the kernels on all of computers per instructions, which > are provided at the end of the message. > This worked on all but one computer. > I assumed that that computer was upgraded to 2.4, but I discovered > recently that it is still on the 2.2 kernel. > Doing an apt-get dist-upgrade produces no results now. The only > image in the /boot / directory (which is were it should be, right?) > is vmlinuz-2.2.17. > Do I now have manually upgrade it? And if so, how? > > Curtis > > > Procedures for upgrade: > 1. edit sources.list > 2. apt-get update > 3. apt-get install apt dpkg apt-utils > 4. apt-get dist-upgrade > 5. apt-get -f install > > Now, since then I tried to download the kernel per instructions provided > by dman: > > apt-get install kernel-imgage- > > In this case, when I type apt-get install kernal-image-2.4.17-386 (the > kernel version on my other computers), I get the following message: > > Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no available version, but exists > in the database. > This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and > never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents > of sources.list > E: Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no installation candidate > > Fine, so I typed apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17 and for whatever > reason it installed kernel-image-2.4.17-bf2.4. > > So, how do I get the correct kernel-image? Or what is the correct > title? Perhpas 2.4.19-386? > > Curtis > > Osamu Aoki wrote: > > >Hi > >On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:11:50PM -0500, dman wrote: > > > >>Will anyone help curtis? I don't know about the 'bf' kernels. > >> > > > >bf = boot floppy > > > >Special kernel flavor compiled for the initial system installation. > > > >It should be quite useful but may not have all the bells and whistle. > > > >Just install normal 2.4 kernel and configure modules to suits your > >system. > > > >Good luck. > > > >>- Forwarded message from curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > >>| From: curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>| > >>| After updating the kernel on one of my computers, I see that I have the > >>| following kernel image: vmlinuz-2.4.17-386 > >>| I then tried to update the kernel on another computer. For whatever > >>| reason it would not update automatically so I had to perform the > >>| following operation: > >>| apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17 > >>| > >>| Well, it install vmlinuz-2.4.17-bf2.4 > >>| > >>| I understand the 386 in the earlier kernel image install to refer to a > >>| 386 processor. What does the bf2.4 mean and is this appropriate? > >> > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Kernel identification
Let's go back to my original problem. Here's my letter: I upgraded the kernels on all of computers per instructions, which are provided at the end of the message. This worked on all but one computer. I assumed that that computer was upgraded to 2.4, but I discovered recently that it is still on the 2.2 kernel. Doing an apt-get dist-upgrade produces no results now. The only image in the /boot / directory (which is were it should be, right?) is vmlinuz-2.2.17. Do I now have manually upgrade it? And if so, how? Curtis Procedures for upgrade: 1. edit sources.list 2. apt-get update 3. apt-get install apt dpkg apt-utils 4. apt-get dist-upgrade 5. apt-get -f install Now, since then I tried to download the kernel per instructions provided by dman: apt-get install kernel-imgage- In this case, when I type apt-get install kernal-image-2.4.17-386 (the kernel version on my other computers), I get the following message: Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list E: Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no installation candidate Fine, so I typed apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17 and for whatever reason it installed kernel-image-2.4.17-bf2.4. So, how do I get the correct kernel-image? Or what is the correct title? Perhpas 2.4.19-386? Curtis Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:11:50PM -0500, dman wrote: Will anyone help curtis? I don't know about the 'bf' kernels. bf = boot floppy Special kernel flavor compiled for the initial system installation. It should be quite useful but may not have all the bells and whistle. Just install normal 2.4 kernel and configure modules to suits your system. Good luck. - Forwarded message from curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - | From: curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | After updating the kernel on one of my computers, I see that I have the | following kernel image: vmlinuz-2.4.17-386 | I then tried to update the kernel on another computer. For whatever | reason it would not update automatically so I had to perform the | following operation: | apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17 | | Well, it install vmlinuz-2.4.17-bf2.4 | | I understand the 386 in the earlier kernel image install to refer to a | 386 processor. What does the bf2.4 mean and is this appropriate? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Kernel identification
Hi On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:11:50PM -0500, dman wrote: > Will anyone help curtis? I don't know about the 'bf' kernels. bf = boot floppy Special kernel flavor compiled for the initial system installation. It should be quite useful but may not have all the bells and whistle. Just install normal 2.4 kernel and configure modules to suits your system. Good luck. > - Forwarded message from curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > | From: curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | > | After updating the kernel on one of my computers, I see that I have the > | following kernel image: vmlinuz-2.4.17-386 > | I then tried to update the kernel on another computer. For whatever > | reason it would not update automatically so I had to perform the > | following operation: > | apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17 > | > | Well, it install vmlinuz-2.4.17-bf2.4 > | > | I understand the 386 in the earlier kernel image install to refer to a > | 386 processor. What does the bf2.4 mean and is this appropriate? -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D . See "Debian reference": http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/quick-reference/ Project at: http://qref.sf.net . I welcome your constructive criticisms and corrections. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Kernel identification
Will anyone help curtis? I don't know about the 'bf' kernels. -D - Forwarded message from curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - | From: curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Kernel identification | Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:41:50 -0700 | | After updating the kernel on one of my computers, I see that I have the | following kernel image: vmlinuz-2.4.17-386 | I then tried to update the kernel on another computer. For whatever | reason it would not update automatically so I had to perform the | following operation: | apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17 | | Well, it install vmlinuz-2.4.17-bf2.4 | | I understand the 386 in the earlier kernel image install to refer to a | 386 processor. What does the bf2.4 mean and is this appropriate? | | Thanks, | | Curtis - End forwarded message - -- If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. I John 1:8 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]