Re: FW: Kernel identification

2002-04-14 Thread Simon Hepburn
Osamu Aoki wrote:

> Hey, I do not know who invented L and R.  That is really problem in
> modern world.  They sound same to me :) Problem is that English is a
> lingua-franca of computer world and I do not speak/spell well.
> ("frustrated")

Your english is excellent, I've seen far funnier mistakes from native 
speakers.

> Really, these 2 d--- characters cause poor non-native speaker of English
> to torture themselves.  Pick any Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc., and
> ask them to say "I love you".  It will sound "I rub you."  Well these
> days, oriental massage (Beep: R-rated) is popular in US, it may be the
> same thing after all...

I lived in France for several years and was forever making embarassing verbal 
gaffes, often the pronunciation rather than the spelling is all it takes. For 
example in french the word "pin" can mean either pine or penis depending on 
how you pronounce it. Given that I'm a carpenter and the nature of 
construction site humour, you can imagine the hilarity that caused until 
someone set me straight. And the girlfriend found out the hard way (no pun 
intended) that french plumbers don't "faire pipes" they "faire tuyaux". 
Apparently "faire une pipe" means give a blowjob in french

Anyhow, I guess we should get back to a more technical discussion not 
that it's a particulary fashionable thing to do these day's on this list. 

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Re: FW: Kernel identification

2002-04-13 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi Simon from UK,

On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 03:07:05AM +0100, Simon Hepburn wrote:
> Osamu Aoki wrote:
> 
> > To avoid this kind of flustration, dselect is better tool.  With that we
> > can see and confirm package names.  This is true for kernel-image since
> > it evolve really fast with strange combination of name mutation.
> >
> > Just my thought.  (I like apt-get though)
> 
> flustration ? I've been flustered and frustrated but never 
> flustrated.sounds painful ;-)

LOL ;)

Hey, I do not know who invented L and R.  That is really problem in
modern world.  They sound same to me :) Problem is that English is a
lingua-franca of computer world and I do not speak/spell well.  
("frustrated")

Really, these 2 d--- characters cause poor non-native speaker of English
to torture themselves.  Pick any Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc., and
ask them to say "I love you".  It will sound "I rub you."  Well these
days, oriental massage (Beep: R-rated) is popular in US, it may be the
same thing after all...

So much for bad taste joke. 

Osamu
PS: No offense to the Asian people.  I am one of them.
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Re: FW: Kernel identification

2002-04-13 Thread Simon Hepburn
Osamu Aoki wrote:

> To avoid this kind of flustration, dselect is better tool.  With that we
> can see and confirm package names.  This is true for kernel-image since
> it evolve really fast with strange combination of name mutation.
>
> Just my thought.  (I like apt-get though)

flustration ? I've been flustered and frustrated but never 
flustrated.sounds painful ;-)

I like dselect too, apt-get leaves you oblivious to recommends and suggests, 
which can and do change over the lifetime of a package, particulary if a 
large package is split into smaller ones.

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Re: FW: Kernel identification

2002-04-13 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:11:11PM -0700, curtis wrote:
> Let's go back to my original problem.

I see question was answered.  Good. :)

To avoid this kind of flustration, dselect is better tool.  With that we
can see and confirm package names.  This is true for kernel-image since
it evolve really fast with strange combination of name mutation.

Just my thought.  (I like apt-get though)
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Re: FW: Kernel identification

2002-04-13 Thread Herbert Xu
curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> apt-get install kernel-imgage-

> In this case, when I type apt-get install kernal-image-2.4.17-386 (the 
> kernel version on my other computers), I get the following message:

>Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no available version, but exists
>in the database.
>This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
>never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
>of sources.list
>E: Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no installation candidate

2.4.17 has been removed due to the zlib security hole.  Just install
2.4.18 instead.
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Re: FW: Kernel identification

2002-04-12 Thread Dale Hair
It seems that it must have been removed from the archive between your
installs.  2.4.17 does not exist on the archives now, only
2.4.17-b42.4.  I may be wrong but it seems to me it hasn't been there
for several weeks. I would suggest installing 2.4.18. 

On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 19:11, curtis wrote:
> Let's go back to my original problem.
> 
> Here's my letter:
> 
> I upgraded the kernels on all of computers per instructions, which
> are provided at the end of the message.
> This worked on all but one computer.
> I assumed that that computer was upgraded to 2.4, but I discovered
> recently that it is still on the 2.2 kernel.
> Doing an apt-get dist-upgrade produces no results now. The only
> image in the /boot / directory (which is were it should be, right?)
> is vmlinuz-2.2.17.
> Do I now have manually upgrade it? And if so, how?
> 
> Curtis
> 
> 
> Procedures for upgrade:
> 1. edit sources.list
> 2. apt-get update
> 3. apt-get install apt dpkg apt-utils
> 4. apt-get dist-upgrade
> 5. apt-get -f install
> 
> Now, since then I tried to download the kernel per instructions provided 
> by dman:
> 
> apt-get install kernel-imgage-
> 
> In this case, when I type apt-get install kernal-image-2.4.17-386 (the 
> kernel version on my other computers), I get the following message:
> 
> Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no available version, but exists
> in the database.
> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
> never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
> of sources.list
> E: Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no installation candidate
> 
> Fine, so I typed apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17 and for whatever 
> reason it installed kernel-image-2.4.17-bf2.4.
> 
> So, how do I get the correct kernel-image?  Or what is the correct 
> title? Perhpas 2.4.19-386?
> 
> Curtis
> 
> Osamu Aoki wrote:
> 
> >Hi
> >On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:11:50PM -0500, dman wrote:
> >
> >>Will anyone help curtis?  I don't know about the 'bf' kernels.
> >>
> >
> >bf = boot floppy
> >
> >Special kernel flavor compiled for the initial system installation.
> >
> >It should be quite useful but may not have all the bells and whistle.
> >
> >Just install normal 2.4 kernel and configure modules to suits your
> >system.
> >
> >Good luck.
> >
> >>- Forwarded message from curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> >>| From: curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>| 
> >>| After updating the kernel on one of my computers, I see that I have the 
> >>| following kernel image: vmlinuz-2.4.17-386
> >>| I then tried to update the kernel on another computer. For whatever 
> >>| reason it would not update automatically so I had to perform the 
> >>| following operation:
> >>| apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17
> >>| 
> >>| Well, it install vmlinuz-2.4.17-bf2.4
> >>| 
> >>| I understand the 386 in the earlier kernel image install to refer to a 
> >>| 386 processor. What does the bf2.4 mean and is this appropriate?
> >>
> 
> 
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Re: FW: Kernel identification

2002-04-12 Thread curtis

Let's go back to my original problem.

Here's my letter:

   I upgraded the kernels on all of computers per instructions, which
   are provided at the end of the message.
   This worked on all but one computer.
   I assumed that that computer was upgraded to 2.4, but I discovered
   recently that it is still on the 2.2 kernel.
   Doing an apt-get dist-upgrade produces no results now. The only
   image in the /boot / directory (which is were it should be, right?)
   is vmlinuz-2.2.17.
   Do I now have manually upgrade it? And if so, how?

   Curtis


   Procedures for upgrade:
   1. edit sources.list
   2. apt-get update
   3. apt-get install apt dpkg apt-utils
   4. apt-get dist-upgrade
   5. apt-get -f install

Now, since then I tried to download the kernel per instructions provided 
by dman:


apt-get install kernel-imgage-

In this case, when I type apt-get install kernal-image-2.4.17-386 (the 
kernel version on my other computers), I get the following message:


   Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no available version, but exists
   in the database.
   This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
   never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
   of sources.list
   E: Package kernel-image-2.4.17-386 has no installation candidate

Fine, so I typed apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17 and for whatever 
reason it installed kernel-image-2.4.17-bf2.4.


So, how do I get the correct kernel-image?  Or what is the correct 
title? Perhpas 2.4.19-386?


Curtis

Osamu Aoki wrote:


Hi
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:11:50PM -0500, dman wrote:


Will anyone help curtis?  I don't know about the 'bf' kernels.



bf = boot floppy

Special kernel flavor compiled for the initial system installation.

It should be quite useful but may not have all the bells and whistle.

Just install normal 2.4 kernel and configure modules to suits your
system.

Good luck.


- Forwarded message from curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
| From: curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| 
| After updating the kernel on one of my computers, I see that I have the 
| following kernel image: vmlinuz-2.4.17-386
| I then tried to update the kernel on another computer. For whatever 
| reason it would not update automatically so I had to perform the 
| following operation:

| apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17
| 
| Well, it install vmlinuz-2.4.17-bf2.4
| 
| I understand the 386 in the earlier kernel image install to refer to a 
| 386 processor. What does the bf2.4 mean and is this appropriate?






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Re: FW: Kernel identification

2002-04-12 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:11:50PM -0500, dman wrote:
> Will anyone help curtis?  I don't know about the 'bf' kernels.

bf = boot floppy

Special kernel flavor compiled for the initial system installation.

It should be quite useful but may not have all the bells and whistle.

Just install normal 2.4 kernel and configure modules to suits your
system.

Good luck.

> - Forwarded message from curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> | From: curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | 
> | After updating the kernel on one of my computers, I see that I have the 
> | following kernel image: vmlinuz-2.4.17-386
> | I then tried to update the kernel on another computer. For whatever 
> | reason it would not update automatically so I had to perform the 
> | following operation:
> | apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17
> | 
> | Well, it install vmlinuz-2.4.17-bf2.4
> | 
> | I understand the 386 in the earlier kernel image install to refer to a 
> | 386 processor. What does the bf2.4 mean and is this appropriate?
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FW: Kernel identification

2002-04-12 Thread dman

Will anyone help curtis?  I don't know about the 'bf' kernels.

-D

- Forwarded message from curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

| From: curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Kernel identification
| Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:41:50 -0700
| 
| After updating the kernel on one of my computers, I see that I have the 
| following kernel image: vmlinuz-2.4.17-386
| I then tried to update the kernel on another computer. For whatever 
| reason it would not update automatically so I had to perform the 
| following operation:
| apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.17
| 
| Well, it install vmlinuz-2.4.17-bf2.4
| 
| I understand the 386 in the earlier kernel image install to refer to a 
| 386 processor. What does the bf2.4 mean and is this appropriate?
| 
| Thanks,
| 
| Curtis

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